...if the GAA maintain its ties with Allianz ?
No
I predict it will be the next step.
I thought RH88 you'd always side with your fellow county folk.
I know I don't read the news much and social media but what have I missed?.
Quote from: highorlow on August 27, 2025, 02:27:45 PM...if the GAA maintain its ties with Allianz ?
Yes, 110%.
https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/gaa-members-call-on-association-to-sever-ties-with-sponsor-over-israel-links/ar-AA1KSzTO
Does Coca Cola sponsor any GAAa activities? Because they'll have to go too
https://www.uplift.ie/bds/
... and the rest These Zionists must own the world...
and the sub brands..
https://boycott-israel.org/boycott.html
Needs to be mass protests at all league games.
Quote from: highorlow on August 27, 2025, 02:27:45 PM...if the GAA maintain its ties with Allianz ?
Were Allianz not a problem up to now. Their leaders were Nazis and they insured concentration camps. Company with a terrible human rights record.
Heard Monaghan will hand back their All-Ireland medals in protest...
Quote from: illdecide on August 27, 2025, 03:40:11 PMI know I don't read the news much and social media but what have I missed?.
Allianz are heavily, and I mean heavily, investing in Israeli war bonds.
A group of GAA people have asked the GAA to tear up the sponsorship deal.
While we are at it
Arthur Guinness and his successors largely did not employ Catholics for a significant period, actively avoiding hiring them until the 1960s, although the company did not have qualms about selling its products to them. The Guinness family and company were known for their loyalty to the British Crown and their opposition to Irish Home Rule and the United Irishmen, even his descendants donated to the UVF arms fund.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 27, 2025, 04:29:28 PMhttps://www.uplift.ie/bds/
not sure how up to date this is. Puma cut ties wth the Israeli FA
Conor McKeon: Does Allianz's global policy of funding Israel make them untenable as a sponsorship partner for the GAA?
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/conor-mckeon-does-allianzs-global-policy-of-funding-israel-make-them-untenable-as-a-sponsorship-partner-for-the-gaa/a2011297225.html
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2025, 08:48:38 AMWhile we are at it
Arthur Guinness and his successors largely did not employ Catholics for a significant period, actively avoiding hiring them until the 1960s, although the company did not have qualms about selling its products to them. The Guinness family and company were known for their loyalty to the British Crown and their opposition to Irish Home Rule and the United Irishmen, even his descendants donated to the UVF arms fund.
What do they sponsor? That deal being cut is being used as a precedent
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 28, 2025, 08:55:26 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2025, 08:48:38 AMWhile we are at it
Arthur Guinness and his successors largely did not employ Catholics for a significant period, actively avoiding hiring them until the 1960s, although the company did not have qualms about selling its products to them. The Guinness family and company were known for their loyalty to the British Crown and their opposition to Irish Home Rule and the United Irishmen, even his descendants donated to the UVF arms fund.
What do they sponsor? That deal being cut is being used as a precedent
They sponsored the GAA for many many years, not a peep. If we delve really deep into this, we'd struggle to use a device that hasn't got some sort of Israeli connection.
The sporting ban is a start and dropping the sponsors does send a message, what else do they sponsors
Allianz prob don't really care if they get dropped. How many of us have different insurance policies with them? Are you going to be arsed getting rid if it costs you more money to renew somewhere else. ?
All big companies have questionable policies and pasts.
This is going to run. John 3:17 as the example. What companies hate is bad publicity.
Banners will generate attention. The GAA won't like it. RTÉ and the rest of the media will love it.
Quote from: snoopdog on August 28, 2025, 10:44:36 AMAllianz prob don't really care if they get dropped. How many of us have different insurance policies with them? Are you going to be arsed getting rid if it costs you more money to renew somewhere else. ?
All big companies have questionable policies and pasts.
They won't like such huge negative publicity. And while some may be signed up to them already it will affect future new policies being taken out.
Lindsey Graham is menacing the Norwegians and their wealth fund because they have sold their holding in Caterpillar.
Quote from: snoopdog on August 28, 2025, 10:44:36 AMAllianz prob don't really care if they get dropped. How many of us have different insurance policies with them? Are you going to be arsed getting rid if it costs you more money to renew somewhere else. ?
All big companies have questionable policies and pasts.
Is it Allianz who have the contract for insurance for clubs, i.e. clubs are bound to take up club insurance from them. Presumably the GAA has some timebound contract with them for this.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2025, 10:36:05 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 28, 2025, 08:55:26 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2025, 08:48:38 AMWhile we are at it
Arthur Guinness and his successors largely did not employ Catholics for a significant period, actively avoiding hiring them until the 1960s, although the company did not have qualms about selling its products to them. The Guinness family and company were known for their loyalty to the British Crown and their opposition to Irish Home Rule and the United Irishmen, even his descendants donated to the UVF arms fund.
What do they sponsor? That deal being cut is being used as a precedent
They sponsored the GAA for many many years, not a peep. If we delve really deep into this, we'd struggle to use a device that hasn't got some sort of Israeli connection.
The sporting ban is a start and dropping the sponsors does send a message, what else do they sponsors
There was a peep. Read the article I linked, they weren't renewed as a result of grassroots whinging.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 28, 2025, 05:55:01 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2025, 10:36:05 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 28, 2025, 08:55:26 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2025, 08:48:38 AMWhile we are at it
Arthur Guinness and his successors largely did not employ Catholics for a significant period, actively avoiding hiring them until the 1960s, although the company did not have qualms about selling its products to them. The Guinness family and company were known for their loyalty to the British Crown and their opposition to Irish Home Rule and the United Irishmen, even his descendants donated to the UVF arms fund.
What do they sponsor? That deal being cut is being used as a precedent
They sponsored the GAA for many many years, not a peep. If we delve really deep into this, we'd struggle to use a device that hasn't got some sort of Israeli connection.
The sporting ban is a start and dropping the sponsors does send a message, what else do they sponsors
There was a peep. Read the article I linked, they weren't renewed as a result of grassroots whinging.
The article is subscription so can't read it, so Guinness (who I was referring to) were dropped because of their past? Or because alcohol sponsorship in sport has changed?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2025, 06:37:14 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 28, 2025, 05:55:01 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2025, 10:36:05 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 28, 2025, 08:55:26 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2025, 08:48:38 AMWhile we are at it
Arthur Guinness and his successors largely did not employ Catholics for a significant period, actively avoiding hiring them until the 1960s, although the company did not have qualms about selling its products to them. The Guinness family and company were known for their loyalty to the British Crown and their opposition to Irish Home Rule and the United Irishmen, even his descendants donated to the UVF arms fund.
What do they sponsor? That deal being cut is being used as a precedent
They sponsored the GAA for many many years, not a peep. If we delve really deep into this, we'd struggle to use a device that hasn't got some sort of Israeli connection.
The sporting ban is a start and dropping the sponsors does send a message, what else do they sponsors
There was a peep. Read the article I linked, they weren't renewed as a result of grassroots whinging.
The article is subscription so can't read it, so Guinness (who I was referring to) were dropped because of their past? Or because alcohol sponsorship in sport has changed?
Because a grassroots movement in the GAA felt taking money from a hooch company was incompatible with sport.
Point is this has been done before
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 28, 2025, 07:01:40 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2025, 06:37:14 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 28, 2025, 05:55:01 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2025, 10:36:05 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 28, 2025, 08:55:26 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2025, 08:48:38 AMWhile we are at it
Arthur Guinness and his successors largely did not employ Catholics for a significant period, actively avoiding hiring them until the 1960s, although the company did not have qualms about selling its products to them. The Guinness family and company were known for their loyalty to the British Crown and their opposition to Irish Home Rule and the United Irishmen, even his descendants donated to the UVF arms fund.
What do they sponsor? That deal being cut is being used as a precedent
They sponsored the GAA for many many years, not a peep. If we delve really deep into this, we'd struggle to use a device that hasn't got some sort of Israeli connection.
The sporting ban is a start and dropping the sponsors does send a message, what else do they sponsors
There was a peep. Read the article I linked, they weren't renewed as a result of grassroots whinging.
The article is subscription so can't read it, so Guinness (who I was referring to) were dropped because of their past? Or because alcohol sponsorship in sport has changed?
Because a grassroots movement in the GAA felt taking money from a hooch company was incompatible with sport.
Point is this has been done before
It was being done globally.
My point (sighs)
They didn't mind taking the money considering their history politically and financially towards enemies of the state, also not employing catholics till the late 60's. But I thought you knew where I was going, but obviously oblivious
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2025, 09:52:07 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 28, 2025, 07:01:40 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2025, 06:37:14 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 28, 2025, 05:55:01 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2025, 10:36:05 AMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 28, 2025, 08:55:26 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2025, 08:48:38 AMWhile we are at it
Arthur Guinness and his successors largely did not employ Catholics for a significant period, actively avoiding hiring them until the 1960s, although the company did not have qualms about selling its products to them. The Guinness family and company were known for their loyalty to the British Crown and their opposition to Irish Home Rule and the United Irishmen, even his descendants donated to the UVF arms fund.
What do they sponsor? That deal being cut is being used as a precedent
They sponsored the GAA for many many years, not a peep. If we delve really deep into this, we'd struggle to use a device that hasn't got some sort of Israeli connection.
The sporting ban is a start and dropping the sponsors does send a message, what else do they sponsors
There was a peep. Read the article I linked, they weren't renewed as a result of grassroots whinging.
The article is subscription so can't read it, so Guinness (who I was referring to) were dropped because of their past? Or because alcohol sponsorship in sport has changed?
Because a grassroots movement in the GAA felt taking money from a hooch company was incompatible with sport.
Point is this has been done before
It was being done globally.
My point (sighs)
They didn't mind taking the money considering their history politically and financially towards enemies of the state, also not employing catholics till the late 60's. But I thought you knew where I was going, but obviously oblivious
Oh I get the point. Guinness used to be sectarian. But they had long stopped. It was a hooch thing.
Why are we talking about Guinness? Nobody is asking to boycott Allianz over what they used to do. They are asking to boycott them over what they are currently doing.
Quote from: Snapchap on August 29, 2025, 10:13:36 AMWhy are we talking about Guinness? Nobody is asking to boycott Allianz over what they used to do. They are asking to boycott them over what they are currently doing.
MR2 is playing relativism. Every company has skeletons, why pick on genocide enablers.
Quote from: Snapchap on August 29, 2025, 10:13:36 AMWhy are we talking about Guinness? Nobody is asking to boycott Allianz over what they used to do. They are asking to boycott them over what they are currently doing.
The GAA don't mind where the sponsorship comes from, we've taken it from who'll ever stump up the most cash regardless of their past or their beliefs.
Their interest lies with the grassroots of the game and now the grassroots want a change. Very difficult to get high level sponsors that don't have a bad connection with something..
Getting rid of the current ones at the drop of a hat won't isn't a 'good' fix
All well and good saying out, but have the protestors got someone coming in?
I could envisage protests at games including protesters with banners entering the field during games. There is very strong feeling and a lot of high profile players and ex-players protesting Allianz sponsorship.
"Matches"
Precipitate action might be inappropriate. Israel is losing respectability by the day, companies that did not see a problem earlier in the year might be becoming increasingly uncomfortable. You could have all sorts of disruption aimed at the Irish branch, when Allianz HQ were planning to step back anyway.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2025, 12:39:12 PMQuote from: Snapchap on August 29, 2025, 10:13:36 AMWhy are we talking about Guinness? Nobody is asking to boycott Allianz over what they used to do. They are asking to boycott them over what they are currently doing.
The GAA don't mind where the sponsorship comes from, we've taken it from who'll ever stump up the most cash regardless of their past or their beliefs.
Their interest lies with the grassroots of the game and now the grassroots want a change. Very difficult to get high level sponsors that don't have a bad connection with something..
Getting rid of the current ones at the drop of a hat won't isn't a 'good' fix
All well and good saying out, but have the protestors got someone coming in?
So, f**k it. The sponsors are literally funding genocide, but it would be rude to annoy them. Nothing can be done.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 30, 2025, 12:26:58 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2025, 12:39:12 PMQuote from: Snapchap on August 29, 2025, 10:13:36 AMWhy are we talking about Guinness? Nobody is asking to boycott Allianz over what they used to do. They are asking to boycott them over what they are currently doing.
The GAA don't mind where the sponsorship comes from, we've taken it from who'll ever stump up the most cash regardless of their past or their beliefs.
Their interest lies with the grassroots of the game and now the grassroots want a change. Very difficult to get high level sponsors that don't have a bad connection with something..
Getting rid of the current ones at the drop of a hat won't isn't a 'good' fix
All well and good saying out, but have the protestors got someone coming in?
So, f**k it. The sponsors are literally funding genocide, but it would be rude to annoy them. Nothing can be done.
So any of that stuff you've posted can you point towards were I said f**k it?
I've said have the protestors got someone coming in.
I know you're not really concerned as this is just an another go at the GAA over the garrison games that you hold in such high regard.
You really need to try harder
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2025, 12:39:12 PMQuote from: Snapchap on August 29, 2025, 10:13:36 AMWhy are we talking about Guinness? Nobody is asking to boycott Allianz over what they used to do. They are asking to boycott them over what they are currently doing.
The GAA don't mind where the sponsorship comes from, we've taken it from who'll ever stump up the most cash regardless of their past or their beliefs.
Their interest lies with the grassroots of the game and now the grassroots want a change. Very difficult to get high level sponsors that don't have a bad connection with something..
Getting rid of the current ones at the drop of a hat won't isn't a 'good' fix
All well and good saying out, but have the protestors got someone coming in?
Getting Allianz out is priority. As Colm O'Rourke said: "Sometimes the right thing costs money but in this case it is the least of what we should do," he said.
"I think all club members should be made aware of what is happening in their name because of the sponsorship of the competition.
"GAA members probably aren't that aware of this. When they do become aware they will want the link with Allianz to be broken once and for all.
"If it means that we don't have a sponsor for the National League Competition, so be it".
This has gone out to the clubs. I can't see this sponser staying. Protests at games will be massive, I've no doubt. The GAA won't want this publicity.
I'm surprised it hasn't happened already.
I suppose interrupting Sunday mass and intimidating aul dolls is easier.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 30, 2025, 03:07:32 PMI'm surprised it hasn't happened already.
I suppose interrupting Sunday mass and intimidating aul dolls is easier.
You're referring to one incident in Armagh? Activists will not be afraid to intrude onto the field of league games sure the church is now calling for Allianz to be boycotted. Just need to interrupt aul dolls at a service at the Vatican now for the Pope to call out 'genocide' and his own country for funding it.
2 actually. There was one in Dublin too. Despite that the Catholic Church in Ireland actually do quite a bit for Palestine.
Anyway, the activists seem more interested in moving products about the shelves of Home Bargains and torturing their staff.
Yet, they leave the GAA and Allianz alone. Beats me.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 30, 2025, 04:46:01 PM2 actually. There was one in Dublin too. Despite that the Catholic Church in Ireland actually do quite a bit for Palestine.
Anyway, the activists seem more interested in moving products about the shelves of Home Bargains and torturing their staff.
Yet, they leave the GAA and Allianz alone. Beats me.
Really?
https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/gaa-members-call-for-end-of-allianz-sponsorship-over-israel-links-SE7QZTVDH5BUVGDJLP4P4N7VOA/
About a week ago? After the season is over? "Call for"
Meh...
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 30, 2025, 04:54:49 PMAbout a week ago? After the season is over? "Call for"
Meh...
This campaign has been going on ages including Gaels Against Genocide and Palestine Action. Instead of 'meh' and sitting on the ditch, get involved and get your club to join with the many others putting pressure on the GAA. Allianz will be forced out make no mistake.
Why has it taken so long? Where were they during the league this year?
Oh aye......mass.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 30, 2025, 04:59:57 PMWhy has it taken so long? Where were they during the league this year?
Oh aye......mass.
Get your Pope to call out 'genocide' and his country, the US, funding it. Pathetic leadership
Mass is not a place for protests.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 30, 2025, 05:08:23 PMMass is not a place for protests.
I don't disagree with you. Should have gone to the Bishops houses.
On Allianz..
The information was only published a few months ago in credible reports:
1) Ensuring genocide - March 2025
2) UN report on economy of genocide - July 2025
This new Pooe hasn't been heard of since his election!!
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 30, 2025, 04:34:18 PMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 30, 2025, 03:07:32 PMI'm surprised it hasn't happened already.
I suppose interrupting Sunday mass and intimidating aul dolls is easier.
You're referring to one incident in Armagh? Activists will not be afraid to intrude onto the field of league games sure the church is now calling for Allianz to be boycotted. Just need to interrupt aul dolls at a service at the Vatican now for the Pope to call out 'genocide' and his own country for funding it.
Such a load of shite. The charity arm of the Irish Catholic Church has been directly involved with providing aid and support to the Palestinians for the past 20 years. And I mean real support, not posting a poxy message that costs you nothing on Facebook or Twitter.
They have provided funding and legal aid to protect Palestinians from illegal settlement. Their partner Charitas Jerusalem, a Catholic charity organisation, is one of the primary organisers of medical care in the Gaza Strip. In the 2023 they spent 1.9 million euro supporting Palestinians.
I challenge you to name me one other Irish organisation that has done as much for the Palestinian people in the last 20 years as the Irish Catholic Church?
There's a crowd of useless mouthy c***ts out their who'll tell you they're Palestines greatest friend and would do anything for them (with the caveat, so long as it's free).
Quote from: trileacman on September 01, 2025, 12:58:06 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 30, 2025, 04:34:18 PMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 30, 2025, 03:07:32 PMI'm surprised it hasn't happened already.
I suppose interrupting Sunday mass and intimidating aul dolls is easier.
You're referring to one incident in Armagh? Activists will not be afraid to intrude onto the field of league games sure the church is now calling for Allianz to be boycotted. Just need to interrupt aul dolls at a service at the Vatican now for the Pope to call out 'genocide' and his own country for funding it.
Such a load of shite. The charity arm of the Irish Catholic Church has been directly involved with providing aid and support to the Palestinians for the past 20 years. And I mean real support, not posting a poxy message that costs you nothing on Facebook or Twitter.
They have provided funding and legal aid to protect Palestinians from illegal settlement. Their partner Charitas Jerusalem, a Catholic charity organisation, is one of the primary organisers of medical care in the Gaza Strip. In the 2023 they spent 1.9 million euro supporting Palestinians.
I challenge you to name me one other Irish organisation that has done as much for the Palestinian people in the last 20 years as the Irish Catholic Church?
There's a crowd of useless mouthy c***ts out their who'll tell you they're Palestines greatest friend and would do anything for them (with the caveat, so long as it's free).
Jees! TrillickMan are you OK? I'm worried about you, posting tirades and f***ing and blinding between midnight and 1am on threads about Enhanced Rules, Liverpool, Manchester United and boycotts in support of Palestine. Maybe you should consider an anger management course. At least you weren't giving out about Malachy O'Rourke this time.
Though it will hardly calm you down; just to clarify I did agree Mass is not the place for protests and said the Pope needs to call out 'genocide' and his own country the US for funding it 🤷
Israel receives more start up funding from the EU vis a vis Ireland.
Horizon 2020 just one such program.
Israel strategically targeted the tech sector so they could spy on the world, hurting that in some way would be helpful. Jeffrey Epstein owns all your data.
You need to find the point of leverage and hammer it.
The problem of course is the degree of vengeance Israel will pursue through its instrument, the United States. Perhaps explains why irish politicians are happy with gesture politics.
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 01, 2025, 09:01:20 AMQuote from: trileacman on September 01, 2025, 12:58:06 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 30, 2025, 04:34:18 PMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 30, 2025, 03:07:32 PMI'm surprised it hasn't happened already.
I suppose interrupting Sunday mass and intimidating aul dolls is easier.
You're referring to one incident in Armagh? Activists will not be afraid to intrude onto the field of league games sure the church is now calling for Allianz to be boycotted. Just need to interrupt aul dolls at a service at the Vatican now for the Pope to call out 'genocide' and his own country for funding it.
Such a load of shite. The charity arm of the Irish Catholic Church has been directly involved with providing aid and support to the Palestinians for the past 20 years. And I mean real support, not posting a poxy message that costs you nothing on Facebook or Twitter.
They have provided funding and legal aid to protect Palestinians from illegal settlement. Their partner Charitas Jerusalem, a Catholic charity organisation, is one of the primary organisers of medical care in the Gaza Strip. In the 2023 they spent 1.9 million euro supporting Palestinians.
I challenge you to name me one other Irish organisation that has done as much for the Palestinian people in the last 20 years as the Irish Catholic Church?
There's a crowd of useless mouthy c***ts out their who'll tell you they're Palestines greatest friend and would do anything for them (with the caveat, so long as it's free).
Jees! TrillickMan are you OK? I'm worried about you, posting tirades and f***ing and blinding between midnight and 1am on threads about Enhanced Rules, Liverpool, Manchester United and boycotts in support of Palestine. Maybe you should consider an anger management course. At least you weren't giving out about Malachy O'Rourke this time.
Though it will hardly calm you down; just to clarify I did agree Mass is not the place for protests and said the Pope needs to call out 'genocide' and his own country the US for funding it 🤷
No you didn't, you called for interrupting mass at the Vatican in your first post on the matter.
Quote from: trileacman on September 01, 2025, 10:29:06 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on September 01, 2025, 09:01:20 AMQuote from: trileacman on September 01, 2025, 12:58:06 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on August 30, 2025, 04:34:18 PMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 30, 2025, 03:07:32 PMI'm surprised it hasn't happened already.
I suppose interrupting Sunday mass and intimidating aul dolls is easier.
You're referring to one incident in Armagh? Activists will not be afraid to intrude onto the field of league games sure the church is now calling for Allianz to be boycotted. Just need to interrupt aul dolls at a service at the Vatican now for the Pope to call out 'genocide' and his own country for funding it.
Such a load of shite. The charity arm of the Irish Catholic Church has been directly involved with providing aid and support to the Palestinians for the past 20 years. And I mean real support, not posting a poxy message that costs you nothing on Facebook or Twitter.
They have provided funding and legal aid to protect Palestinians from illegal settlement. Their partner Charitas Jerusalem, a Catholic charity organisation, is one of the primary organisers of medical care in the Gaza Strip. In the 2023 they spent 1.9 million euro supporting Palestinians.
I challenge you to name me one other Irish organisation that has done as much for the Palestinian people in the last 20 years as the Irish Catholic Church?
There's a crowd of useless mouthy c***ts out their who'll tell you they're Palestines greatest friend and would do anything for them (with the caveat, so long as it's free).
Jees! TrillickMan are you OK? I'm worried about you, posting tirades and f***ing and blinding between midnight and 1am on threads about Enhanced Rules, Liverpool, Manchester United and boycotts in support of Palestine. Maybe you should consider an anger management course. At least you weren't giving out about Malachy O'Rourke this time.
Though it will hardly calm you down; just to clarify I did agree Mass is not the place for protests and said the Pope needs to call out 'genocide' and his own country the US for funding it 🤷
No you didn't, you called for interrupting mass at the Vatican in your first post on the matter.
If that's what it takes for the leader of the Catholic Church to use the word 'genocide' as he does speak English and call on his government, the US, to stop funding the mass murder of tens of thousands of civilians. Would be worth bringing the message directly to him as he has been pathetic. The Pope would be a huge voice in calling this out.
I wouldn't be for local protests at Masses at all. Your rage and foul language belies your love of your religion..
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2025, 12:36:19 PMQuote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 30, 2025, 12:26:58 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2025, 12:39:12 PMQuote from: Snapchap on August 29, 2025, 10:13:36 AMWhy are we talking about Guinness? Nobody is asking to boycott Allianz over what they used to do. They are asking to boycott them over what they are currently doing.
The GAA don't mind where the sponsorship comes from, we've taken it from who'll ever stump up the most cash regardless of their past or their beliefs.
Their interest lies with the grassroots of the game and now the grassroots want a change. Very difficult to get high level sponsors that don't have a bad connection with something..
Getting rid of the current ones at the drop of a hat won't isn't a 'good' fix
All well and good saying out, but have the protestors got someone coming in?
So, f**k it. The sponsors are literally funding genocide, but it would be rude to annoy them. Nothing can be done.
So any of that stuff you've posted can you point towards were I said f**k it?
I've said have the protestors got someone coming in.
I know you're not really concerned as this is just an another go at the GAA over the garrison games that you hold in such high regard.
You really need to try harder
Give over. This isn't a me campaign, it exists within the GAA. There is a bogy sponsor and it is perfectly reasonable to take a look at them.
Your shoulder shrugging is as good as complicity. The GAA can, and should, make a stand here. Just because you don't care doesn't mean the rest of us can't.
Curious are the rugby and soccer supporters also going to boycott going to Aviva. Playing Hungary in the Aviva this Saturday - country that banned Kneecap on top of it all.
https://www.palestine-studies.org/en/node/1657136
Popcorn at the ready
Quote from: weareros on September 01, 2025, 01:24:54 PMCurious are the rugby and soccer supporters also going to boycott going to Aviva. Playing Hungary in the Aviva this Saturday - country that banned Kneecap on top of it all.
https://www.palestine-studies.org/en/node/1657136
Jees! Do these Zionists control everything?!
There are many many people in this country doing all they can by way of highlighting Israeli products, protesting, organising vigils, holding fundraisers to help the Palestinian people... all sorts. And there are others on the sidelines sniping.
We're faced with a huge and evil force in Zionism that controls the US, Britain and the EU as well as banks, techs, insurance, pharma.. everything.
We're a very small nation doing our best..
The only way to start dismantling the system is for people to target corporates one by one.. there are cases in Irish legal system against booking.com and air b & b in Ireland. Drop Allianz campaign - GAA/ Church and if successful then hit Team Ireland and Paralympics. Ireland Basketball needs a rattle too. There's no end to it.
Just like Apartheid SA, it took the people to enforce the law for the whole thing to eventually fall..
Personally I don't know what's happening regarding Aviva but I'd hope it'll be targeted too...
Quote from: weareros on September 01, 2025, 01:24:54 PMCurious are the rugby and soccer supporters also going to boycott going to Aviva. Playing Hungary in the Aviva this Saturday - country that banned Kneecap on top of it all.
https://www.palestine-studies.org/en/node/1657136
Interesting. But Allianz aren't just insuring Israeli stuff like Aviva. They are investing both policy holder and their funds in war bonds. They are far more complicit than simply doing business in Israel
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2025, 01:31:10 AMQuote from: weareros on September 01, 2025, 01:24:54 PMCurious are the rugby and soccer supporters also going to boycott going to Aviva. Playing Hungary in the Aviva this Saturday - country that banned Kneecap on top of it all.
https://www.palestine-studies.org/en/node/1657136
Interesting. But Allianz aren't just insuring Israeli stuff like Aviva. They are investing both policy holder and their funds in war bonds. They are far more complicit than simply doing business in Israel
The Irish Central bank only stopped trading Israeli war bonds yesterday FFS.
The Israelis are trying to control the narrative and that is ever so slowly slipping away from them so pressurising Allianz, McDonalds, Caterpillar etc etc will all help.
A certain electronics chip and component manufacturer has pulled production from one of their Israeli sites recently as well due to adverse publicity, more need to follow suit.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2025/0907/1532271-gaa-refer-allianz-partnership-to-their-ethics-committee/
https://sportforbusiness.com/kingspan-signs-sponsorship-deal-with-gaelic-games-europe/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyne526506o
Quote from: Rossfan on September 07, 2025, 07:39:49 PMhttps://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2025/0907/1532271-gaa-refer-allianz-partnership-to-their-ethics-committee/
They don't care where the money comes from. Do kingspan still sponsor ulster Rugby also?
Thry got a lot of bad press from grenfel
Quote from: snoopdog on September 12, 2025, 06:56:37 AMQuote from: Rossfan on September 07, 2025, 07:39:49 PMhttps://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2025/0907/1532271-gaa-refer-allianz-partnership-to-their-ethics-committee/
They don't care where the money comes from. Do kingspan still sponsor ulster Rugby also?
Thry got a lot of bad press from grenfel
Israel has killed over 100,000 people. Grenfell wasn't on that scale.
Quote from: snoopdog on September 12, 2025, 06:56:37 AMQuote from: Rossfan on September 07, 2025, 07:39:49 PMhttps://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2025/0907/1532271-gaa-refer-allianz-partnership-to-their-ethics-committee/
They don't care where the money comes from. Do kingspan still sponsor ulster Rugby also?
Thry got a lot of bad press from grenfel
I only noticed the other day driving that way that the sign wasn't for kingspan stadium it was for something else so I don't think they still sponsor ulster.
That doesn't matter SF. It's still accepted here, there and everywhere.
Quote from: Evil Genius on September 12, 2025, 01:13:00 AMhttps://sportforbusiness.com/kingspan-signs-sponsorship-deal-with-gaelic-games-europe/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyne526506o
Wouldn't matter to you anyways, sure the GAA is the IRA at play
That would supersede the grenfel tower disaster
Must do better
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2025, 07:29:57 AMQuote from: Evil Genius on September 12, 2025, 01:13:00 AMhttps://sportforbusiness.com/kingspan-signs-sponsorship-deal-with-gaelic-games-europe/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyne526506o
Wouldn't matter to you anyways, sure the GAA is the IRA at play
That would supersede the grenfel tower disaster
Must do better
What on earth are you on about?
This thread is discussing sponsorships/boycotts etc, particularly as they concern the GAA (the clue is in the forum name). For my own part, I knew about the controversy of Kingspan sponsoring Ulster Rugby and the latter's disinclination to end it before the contract ran out, presumably for financial reasons. And knowing, also, that Kingspan is an Irish company, I wondered whether they also sponsored GAA.
At which a simple google showed that the GAA accepted their sponsorship a few months after Kingspan were roundly condemmed for their part in Grenfell, including a "complete disregard for fire safety" in how it marketed one of its products and that it also demonstrated "deeply entrenched and persistent dishonesty...in pursuit of commercial gain".
But heyho, Seafoid tells us we may disregard that, since "only" 72 people, from a six month old baby to an 84 year old woman, were suffocated or burned to death in what should have been both a forseeable and avoidable disaster.
Perhaps I really must do better... ::)
EDIT: On reflection, I realise you may have been making a point about how my (occasional) contributions get disregarded by some, not because of what they say, but because of who they perceive me to be (one of "Themmuns"). If so, please accept my apology.
Yes, you "really must do better".
A simple Google did not tell you that "the GAA" accepted sponsorship. It told you that Gaelic Games Europe did. Essentially a county board, albeit one about a tenth the size and about a hundredth as professional as the smallest and worst run county board in Ireland.
As someone quite closely involved with Gaelic Games Europe in one capacity or another for the last ten years, I can tell you that this particular sponsorship deal raised more than a few eyebrows. It was negotiated by a few select individuals and not subject to a vote. Which, in my individual opinion, remains no defence whatsoever. Feel free to ask any questions you want in your quest to do better.
Quote from: gallsman on September 12, 2025, 01:18:19 PMYes, you "really must do better".
A simple Google did not tell you that "the GAA" accepted sponsorship. It told you that Gaelic Games Europe did. Essentially a county board, albeit one about a tenth the size and about a hundredth as professional as the smallest and worst run county board in Ireland.
As someone quite closely involved with Gaelic Games Europe in one capacity or another for the last ten years, I can tell you that this particular sponsorship deal raised more than a few eyebrows. It was negotiated by a few select individuals and not subject to a vote. Which, in my individual opinion, remains no defence whatsoever. Feel free to ask any questions you want in your quest to do better.
How is that different to the Allianz deal though?
The GAA either has an ethical sponsorship policy or it doesn't.
Quote from: gallsman on September 12, 2025, 01:18:19 PMYes, you "really must do better".
A simple Google did not tell you that "the GAA" accepted sponsorship. It told you that Gaelic Games Europe did. Essentially a county board, albeit one about a tenth the size and about a hundredth as professional as the smallest and worst run county board in Ireland.
As someone quite closely involved with Gaelic Games Europe in one capacity or another for the last ten years, I can tell you that this particular sponsorship deal raised more than a few eyebrows. It was negotiated by a few select individuals and not subject to a vote. Which, in my individual opinion, remains no defence whatsoever. Feel free to ask any questions you want in your quest to do better.
OK, I'll accept the ("county board") distinction you make. But in the end, GGE is either part of the GAA or it isn't and your post suggests it is.
While the mechanism by which the decision was reached ("few individuals") doesn't absolve the organisation from that decision, as you seem to acknowledge.
Therefore the principled thing to do would have been for the parent body (GAA) to intervene to require the sponsorship to be terminated, or at least for adherents to boycott GGE.
Unless, of course, those adherents either don't consider that Kingspan's association with them is a problem, or don't consider it worth more than a perfunctory protest (a "strongly worded letter" to someone or other?).
None of which is to overstate any of what is an otherwise minor matter, rather it was more for illustrative purposes, especially how difficult this can all be, and not least for individuals who shout loudly about boycotts over issues they feel strongly about, while (conveniently) ignoring other like issues which may have a similar principle involved.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 12, 2025, 02:33:42 PMHow is that different to the Allianz deal though?
The GAA either has an ethical sponsorship policy or it doesn't.
One is a small deal negotiated by a few cowboys in the shadows in a small time organisation who don't have access to or the wherewithal to seek out advice, be that PR, legal or commercial.
The other is a national sponsorship deal negotiated by the full time professional administrators of the largest and best run sporting organisation on the island.
Just because they're both awful in different ways doesn't make them the same.
Quote from: Evil Genius on September 12, 2025, 02:39:04 PMOK, I'll accept the ("county board") distinction you make. But in the end, GGE is either part of the GAA or it isn't and your post suggests it is.
Of course it is, but being part of something is very different from being something. You said "the GAA" accepted a deal with Kingspan. You were wrong.
If Croke Park can find out about and punish clubs for renting their astro to soccer kids, they can influence a sponsorship deal.
The GAA is a heavily centralised organisation when it suits.
Or when a Club appointed a certain coach.