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Title: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: thedice on April 19, 2023, 09:48:08 PM
Anyone else notice in the last ~10 years the massive proliferation in slurry spreading in Ireland!! Some of the rig outs and apparatus seem excessive

Met a fast trak with 6 axel slurry tank up a wee bye road there

Might explain the house fly explosion too ....all the chicken shite and pig shite


Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: Gmac on April 19, 2023, 10:20:24 PM
Quote from: thedice on April 19, 2023, 09:48:08 PM
Anyone else notice in the last ~10 years the massive proliferation in slurry spreading in Ireland!! Some of the rig outs and apparatus seem excessive

Met a fast trak with 6 axel slurry tank up a wee bye road there

Might explain the house fly explosion too ....all the chicken shite and pig shite
often wondered about this and households with private wells on the other side of a ditch from a field that gets slurry every few days , can't be good
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: J70 on April 19, 2023, 10:32:54 PM
And wet weather washing much of it into rivers and lakes.

I remember one summer as a young lad when it was so wet that you couldn't put a machine near the land. Wasn't something we normally did, but we had to park on the lane and pump the slurry over the hedge at the top of our longest hilly field and hope that at least most of it would soak in before it got to the stream at the bottom of the hill.
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: thedice on April 19, 2023, 10:54:26 PM
https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jul/06/northern-ireland-turning-republic-into-a-toilet-for-excess-manure-pollution
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: Orior on April 19, 2023, 11:05:25 PM
We've been spreading dung on fields since the start of the 19th century.

Cow manure is fine.
Pig manure is not so nice.
Hen manure is the worst!

Anyway, several small dung spreaders and slurry spreaders has been replaced by one big muther-fooker slurry spreader.

So I reckon it is the same amount of dung, just concentrated into a less days spreading.
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: marty34 on April 19, 2023, 11:17:35 PM
I think there's a rule where farmers are not allowed to put out alurry within so many meters from a water course.  Not sure what the exact distance is.

The key question is how is this policed out deep in the countryside.
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: Keyser soze on April 20, 2023, 09:16:33 AM
That's all this board needed, a thread dedicated to talking shite!
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on April 20, 2023, 10:13:45 AM
Quote from: Keyser soze on April 20, 2023, 09:16:33 AM
That's all this board needed, a thread dedicated to talking shite!

Worse than that. Talking shite about shite. A 6 axel slurry tanker!! PMSL

Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: Last Man on April 20, 2023, 10:21:50 AM
Give the farmers a break I say, its the way it is because we want cheap food and the farmers have to do whatever they can in terms of efficiency to protect their livelyhoods. Regenerative models would help matters but the market can't live with the price of it. Wouldn't have a bad word said about farmers, they are the backbone of the country.
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: trailer on April 20, 2023, 10:39:00 AM
Plenty of regulations around slurry. Feel free to read up on them, all dictated to us from Brussels!
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: NAG1 on April 20, 2023, 10:41:57 AM
Quote from: Last Man on April 20, 2023, 10:21:50 AM
Give the farmers a break I say, its the way it is because we want cheap food and the farmers have to do whatever they can in terms of efficiency to protect their livelyhoods. Regenerative models would help matters but the market can't live with the price of it. Wouldn't have a bad word said about farmers, they are the backbone of the country.

No such thing any more. Not blaming farmers themselves for this but it has gone to a crazy level.
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: johnnycool on April 20, 2023, 11:00:01 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 20, 2023, 10:41:57 AM
Quote from: Last Man on April 20, 2023, 10:21:50 AM
Give the farmers a break I say, its the way it is because we want cheap food and the farmers have to do whatever they can in terms of efficiency to protect their livelyhoods. Regenerative models would help matters but the market can't live with the price of it. Wouldn't have a bad word said about farmers, they are the backbone of the country.

No such thing any more. Not blaming farmers themselves for this but it has gone to a crazy level.

Farmers are being screwed over by the food producers, abattoirs and the likes.
They've no real choice.
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: sensethetone on April 20, 2023, 11:03:37 AM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 20, 2023, 10:13:45 AM
Quote from: Keyser soze on April 20, 2023, 09:16:33 AM
That's all this board needed, a thread dedicated to talking shite!

Worse than that. Talking shite about shite. A 6 axel slurry tanker!! PMSL

A photo of the 6 axel tanker would have been appreciated.

Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: trueblue1234 on April 20, 2023, 11:12:45 AM
Quote from: sensethetone on April 20, 2023, 11:03:37 AM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 20, 2023, 10:13:45 AM
Quote from: Keyser soze on April 20, 2023, 09:16:33 AM
That's all this board needed, a thread dedicated to talking shite!

Worse than that. Talking shite about shite. A 6 axel slurry tanker!! PMSL

A photo of the 6 axel tanker would have been appreciated.

I'd imagine it was 3 axle 6 wheeler. Tho the more wheels the better the shape the fecking fields have been in!!
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on April 20, 2023, 11:33:36 AM
Quote from: trailer on April 20, 2023, 10:39:00 AM
Plenty of regulations around slurry. Feel free to read up on them, all dictated to us from Brussels!

100%. Slurry spreading is now dictated by a fixed set of dates during an open and closed (banned) season. The closed season is over the winter months. Typically what you'll find is that by the time January comes slurry pits are near overflowing as farmers don't have the capacity to store this and during spells of dry weather over the closed season they cannot spread to free up storage. Then when the slurry ban lifts which there are slightly different dates depending on what part of the country you are in, it is hell for leather to try and get slurry spread even during wet weather which is exactly the reason the Eu doesn't want farmers spreading slurry during winter months. This is also why you find the equipment is getting bigger and bigger so more work can be done in a shorter window of opportunity. They whole thing is crazy.
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on April 20, 2023, 11:38:32 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on April 20, 2023, 11:12:45 AM
Quote from: sensethetone on April 20, 2023, 11:03:37 AM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 20, 2023, 10:13:45 AM
Quote from: Keyser soze on April 20, 2023, 09:16:33 AM
That's all this board needed, a thread dedicated to talking shite!

Worse than that. Talking shite about shite. A 6 axel slurry tanker!! PMSL

A photo of the 6 axel tanker would have been appreciated.

I'd imagine it was 3 axle 6 wheeler. Tho the more wheels the better the shape the fecking fields have been in!!

It prob was. I was just laughing at the thought of a 6 axel tanker - be some beast...lol. Regardless, no farmer or contractor is taking a twin or tri-axle tanker into any field unless on the rare occasion of extremely dry weather. These tankers are 99% of the time for ferrying slurry to an umbilical system or a smaller tanker in the field which can travel over wetter ground during spring or autumn months.
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: manfromdelmonte on April 20, 2023, 12:11:06 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 20, 2023, 10:21:50 AM
Give the farmers a break I say, its the way it is because we want cheap food and the farmers have to do whatever they can in terms of efficiency to protect their livelyhoods. Regenerative models would help matters but the market can't live with the price of it. Wouldn't have a bad word said about farmers, they are the backbone of the country.
exporting food out of the country so they can have baby feed in china while we grow less and less crops and veg every year
modern farming model is not sustainable

we had a neighbour spreading slurry in the dark early on st stephen's morning.
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: snoopdog on April 20, 2023, 01:42:22 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on April 20, 2023, 12:11:06 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 20, 2023, 10:21:50 AM
Give the farmers a break I say, its the way it is because we want cheap food and the farmers have to do whatever they can in terms of efficiency to protect their livelyhoods. Regenerative models would help matters but the market can't live with the price of it. Wouldn't have a bad word said about farmers, they are the backbone of the country.
exporting food out of the country so they can have baby feed in china while we grow less and less crops and veg every year
modern farming model is not sustainable

we had a neighbour spreading slurry in the dark early on st stephen's morning.
His tank may have been overflowing.
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: trailer on April 20, 2023, 01:51:22 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on April 20, 2023, 01:42:22 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on April 20, 2023, 12:11:06 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 20, 2023, 10:21:50 AM
Give the farmers a break I say, its the way it is because we want cheap food and the farmers have to do whatever they can in terms of efficiency to protect their livelyhoods. Regenerative models would help matters but the market can't live with the price of it. Wouldn't have a bad word said about farmers, they are the backbone of the country.
exporting food out of the country so they can have baby feed in china while we grow less and less crops and veg every year
modern farming model is not sustainable

we had a neighbour spreading slurry in the dark early on st stephen's morning.
His tank may have been overflowing.

He was overstocked and a f**king gobshite.
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: johnnycool on April 20, 2023, 02:29:08 PM
Quote from: trailer on April 20, 2023, 01:51:22 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on April 20, 2023, 01:42:22 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on April 20, 2023, 12:11:06 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 20, 2023, 10:21:50 AM
Give the farmers a break I say, its the way it is because we want cheap food and the farmers have to do whatever they can in terms of efficiency to protect their livelyhoods. Regenerative models would help matters but the market can't live with the price of it. Wouldn't have a bad word said about farmers, they are the backbone of the country.
exporting food out of the country so they can have baby feed in china while we grow less and less crops and veg every year
modern farming model is not sustainable

we had a neighbour spreading slurry in the dark early on st stephen's morning.
His tank may have been overflowing.

He was overstocked and a f**king gobshite.

Not enough hours in the day for farmers when the weather is with them, the silage wagons would be going well into the early hours down here in the summer time.

Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: sensethetone on April 20, 2023, 02:42:15 PM
Quote from: trailer on April 20, 2023, 01:51:22 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on April 20, 2023, 01:42:22 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on April 20, 2023, 12:11:06 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 20, 2023, 10:21:50 AM
Give the farmers a break I say, its the way it is because we want cheap food and the farmers have to do whatever they can in terms of efficiency to protect their livelyhoods. Regenerative models would help matters but the market can't live with the price of it. Wouldn't have a bad word said about farmers, they are the backbone of the country.
exporting food out of the country so they can have baby feed in china while we grow less and less crops and veg every year
modern farming model is not sustainable

we had a neighbour spreading slurry in the dark early on st stephen's morning.
His tank may have been overflowing.

He was overstocked and a f**king gobshite.

Probably spits on his hands over and over again..
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: thedice on April 20, 2023, 03:24:14 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 20, 2023, 10:21:50 AM
Give the farmers a break I say, its the way it is because we want cheap food and the farmers have to do whatever they can in terms of efficiency to protect their livelyhoods. Regenerative models would help matters but the market can't live with the price of it. Wouldn't have a bad word said about farmers, they are the backbone of the country.


Farmers crying poverty reminds me of Mitchell and Webb....

https://youtu.be/KaZuBziWLgk

All the inherited wealth too!!

All in there will be a serious problem in this country as alluded to by the guardian report
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 20, 2023, 04:22:17 PM
Quote from: sensethetone on April 20, 2023, 02:42:15 PM
Quote from: trailer on April 20, 2023, 01:51:22 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on April 20, 2023, 01:42:22 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on April 20, 2023, 12:11:06 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 20, 2023, 10:21:50 AM
Give the farmers a break I say, its the way it is because we want cheap food and the farmers have to do whatever they can in terms of efficiency to protect their livelyhoods. Regenerative models would help matters but the market can't live with the price of it. Wouldn't have a bad word said about farmers, they are the backbone of the country.
exporting food out of the country so they can have baby feed in china while we grow less and less crops and veg every year
modern farming model is not sustainable

we had a neighbour spreading slurry in the dark early on st stephen's morning.
His tank may have been overflowing.

He was overstocked and a f**king gobshite.

Probably spits on his hands over and over again..

Rory Gallagher?
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: Orior on April 20, 2023, 10:10:42 PM
Here's another source of slurry....

https://twitter.com/zxretroxx/status/1649137675469746181?s=46&t=mbteCo7LPVIuEtqP87DKYA
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: thedice on August 21, 2023, 07:55:14 PM
Nice to see Lough Neagh up there looking resplendent with its blue green coating!!

Who is held accountable...
No one
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: trailer on August 22, 2023, 10:04:17 AM
Quote from: thedice on August 21, 2023, 07:55:14 PM
Nice to see Lough Neagh up there looking resplendent with its blue green coating!!

Who is held accountable...
No one

The Lough is owned by Lord Shaftsbury... in this day and age. A modern day absentee landlord. We should campaign to bring it into public ownership.
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: general_lee on August 22, 2023, 10:21:06 AM
He only owns the bed and the banks.
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 22, 2023, 10:26:06 AM
You lot should be more focused on your own slurry. Currently the main processing plant in Belfast is too small to handle all the sludge coming from treatment plants all over the north where it is incinerated.. It's in the process of being expanded but NI water has been seriously delayed with plans due to guess what "no Stormont". As we speak the excess sludge is going by boat to Scotland to be processed to the tune of millions every month at the expense of the taxpayers. You might say I'm talking sh..te ( literally )but it's a reminder of how dysfunctional out current administration is. Crazy stuff
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: trailer on August 22, 2023, 10:52:26 AM
Quote from: general_lee on August 22, 2023, 10:21:06 AM
He only owns the bed and the banks.

He shouldn't own any of it. And outside of the bed and the banks what else is there? The water?
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: general_lee on August 22, 2023, 01:04:58 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 22, 2023, 10:52:26 AM
Quote from: general_lee on August 22, 2023, 10:21:06 AM
He only owns the bed and the banks.

He shouldn't own any of it. And outside of the bed and the banks what else is there? The water?
I agree it should be confiscated from him, his family make a fortune from it.
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: marty34 on August 22, 2023, 02:58:24 PM
Quote from: general_lee on August 22, 2023, 01:04:58 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 22, 2023, 10:52:26 AM
Quote from: general_lee on August 22, 2023, 10:21:06 AM
He only owns the bed and the banks.

He shouldn't own any of it. And outside of the bed and the banks what else is there? The water?
I agree it should be confiscated from him, his family make a fortune from it.

Do lads not take sand from the lough?


Do they have to pay them?
Title: Re: Irelands Slurry Problem
Post by: general_lee on August 22, 2023, 05:53:43 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 22, 2023, 02:58:24 PM
Quote from: general_lee on August 22, 2023, 01:04:58 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 22, 2023, 10:52:26 AM
Quote from: general_lee on August 22, 2023, 10:21:06 AM
He only owns the bed and the banks.

He shouldn't own any of it. And outside of the bed and the banks what else is there? The water?
I agree it should be confiscated from him, his family make a fortune from it.

Do lads not take sand from the lough?


Do they have to pay them?
Yes. If you want to build a jetty on your property to have to seek permission from Shaftesbury and pay them!

https://k8s.thedetail.tv/articles/lough-neagh-goes-back-into-the-imagination-and-the-history-of-ireland