Let's get it started.
Depends in Dublin's injuries clearing up by I reckon Kerry by 2-3
Dublin all day
This game no longer catches the imagination the way it might have done 10 years ago. Dublin are on the wane and neither side have been really tested to date. I think Kerry will win this and a bit more easily than most people expect. Dublin still have a good core group of players but are largely a team in transition and have very little off the bench now. I'm looking forward to Derry v Galway more than Kerry v Dublin as there is a novelty factor involved in a new side getting to an AI final.
A fit O'Callaghan plays Dublin win. He doesn't they don't.
Kilkenny still has it and will cause Kerry bother.
Johnny cooper for a red card assuming he plays >:(
Has the makings of a very good game.
Some people have this as like the 1977 semi-final, where the winner will also win the final, but that's what they thought with Kerry-Meath in 2001 and we saw how that panned out.
Midfield vital, more from play rather than kickouts with both teams likely to secure ~85% of their own kickouts. If Jack Barry is fit and can neutralise Fenton, that's half the battle for Kerry.
David Moran deserves to start after Mayo performance, has the legs for 3/4s of a game. Diarmuid O'Connor could be named wing forward but play as a 3rd midfielder.
Would be great to see everyone fit and a shootout (no, not a penalty one) between Clifford and O'Callaghan.
The role of the full back lines has been interesting this year. Kerry's FB line scored 4 points v Mayo, and Dublin's full back line make more driving runs forward than the half back line - it was pretty amazing that so many of Dublin's attacking plays involved one of Gannon, Murchan or Fitzsimons.
It will be interesting to see if anyone blinks first re a sweeper. Dublin never play a proper sweeper, but they nearly always have a spare defender who then plays as a sweeper. So I think the Dubs would prefer if a Diarmuid O'Connor was picked at wing forward and played deep, which would allow Cooper play as sweeper (with particular emphasis on doubling up on Clifford).
If Kerry don't do that, the Dubs could pick one of Howard or Bugler at half forward, and ask them to drop back so we would play a conventional sweeper. We haven't done that since Barry Cahill under Pat Gilroy, but now might be the time.
If Con's not fit, I think we'll need a change to play a ball winner in the full forward line. The Costello-Rock-Small trio didn't really fire v Cork.
First championship meeting since the AI final replay in 2019. A lot has happened since then, Jim Gavin gone along with a number of retirements and long unbeaten championship run ended by Mayo.
Kerry had something to build on after that defeat in 2019 yet they allowed themselves to get knocked out of the championship in 2020 by Cork and a loose defence would eventually be their downfall against Tyrone in last years semi final.
Hopefully Con O'Callaghan and David Clifford are declared fit to start and we get a drama filled high quality contest as these two teams are capable of producing.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 04, 2022, 04:40:33 PM
First championship meeting since the AI final replay in 2019. A lot has happened since then, Jim Gavin gone along with a number of retirements and long unbeaten championship run ended by Mayo.
Kerry had something to build on after that defeat in 2019 yet they allowed themselves to get knocked out of the championship in 2020 by Cork and a loose defence would eventually be their downfall against Tyrone in last years semi final.
Hopefully Con O'Callaghan and David Clifford are declared fit to start and we get a drama filled high quality contest as these two teams are capable of producing.
Already a thread here B!
Paddy Neilan is the Ref. Hopefully nobody is talking about him afterwards. I'm sure he'll be fine.
I have a feeling Costello will bounce back for us after being very quiet the last day. But very worried about our defence...
It will be a Dublin v Derry final, a repeat of 1958. Of course I won't get a ticket though as I am not an important figure in my club. It doesn't matter if you attend county games or not, it all will come down to how popular you are in the club.
Quote from: Loughshore2022 on July 05, 2022, 12:12:22 PM
It will be a Dublin v Derry final, a repeat of 1958. Of course I won't get a ticket though as I am not an important figure in my club. It doesn't matter if you attend county games or not, it all will come down to how popular you are in the club.
Aren't you from Tyrone anyway?
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 29, 2022, 03:19:19 PM
A fit O'Callaghan plays Dublin win. He doesn't they don't.
Kilkenny still has it and will cause Kerry bother.
Johnny cooper for a red card assuming he plays >:(
Has the makings of a very good game.
Yep its that simple for me too. If Con plays Dublin will beat Kerry I think. Dublin Galway final.
Quote from: Loughshore2022 on July 05, 2022, 12:12:22 PM
It will be a Dublin v Derry final, a repeat of 1958. Of course I won't get a ticket though as I am not an important figure in my club. It doesn't matter if you attend county games or not, it all will come down to how popular you are in the club.
I can't believe that you're not popular. I simply refuse to believe it. You sound like brilliant craic.
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Quote from: imtommygunn on June 29, 2022, 03:19:19 PM
A fit O’Callaghan plays Dublin win. He doesn’t they don’t.
Kilkenny still has it and will cause Kerry bother.
Johnny cooper for a red card assuming he plays >:(
Has the makings of a very good game.
Yep its that simple for me too. If Con plays Dublin will beat Kerry I think. Dublin Galway final.
Are you lads forgetting Con O'Callaghan played against Mayo last year and Dublin lost?
The fitness of David Clifford will be more of a decider than Con O'Callaghan.
Quote from: Loughshore2022 on July 05, 2022, 12:12:22 PM
It will be a Dublin v Derry final, a repeat of 1958. Of course I won't get a ticket though as I am not an important figure in my club. It doesn't matter if you attend county games or not, it all will come down to how popular you are in the club.
No, you can buy a season ticket, these were introduced since 1993.
Kerry absolutely have to beat the Harlem Globetrotters. The last 3 years have been a disaster for Kerry
Anyone ever have a 'hairline fracture'?
This seems to be Con's injury. Presumably on a leg/foot/ankle. Happened around 3 weeks ago.
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Quote from: Loughshore2022 on July 05, 2022, 12:12:22 PM
It will be a Dublin v Derry final, a repeat of 1958. Of course I won't get a ticket though as I am not an important figure in my club. It doesn't matter if you attend county games or not, it all will come down to how popular you are in the club.
No, you can buy a season ticket, these were introduced since 1993.
There's only 20 football season ticket holders in Derry, source for that number is Cahair O'Kane.
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Quote from: imtommygunn on June 29, 2022, 03:19:19 PM
A fit O'Callaghan plays Dublin win. He doesn't they don't.
Kilkenny still has it and will cause Kerry bother.
Johnny cooper for a red card assuming he plays >:(
Has the makings of a very good game.
Yep its that simple for me too. If Con plays Dublin will beat Kerry I think. Dublin Galway final.
Are you lads forgetting Con O'Callaghan played against Mayo last year and Dublin lost?
The fitness of David Clifford will be more of a decider than Con O'Callaghan.
He wasn't playing well at all this year. When not injured he has been this year.
I just think they will get goals if he plays. Look at the Kildare game - the blitz Dublin did he made happen.
Quote from: Hound on July 06, 2022, 08:08:05 AM
Anyone ever have a 'hairline fracture'?
This seems to be Con's injury. Presumably on a leg/foot/ankle. Happened around 3 weeks ago.
Would have a bit of experience in it. It would take 12 weeks from the incident to a full recovery. It's the sort of thing were if the player was far enough along you could strap them up and get them through a big game but it would put them back.
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Quote from: imtommygunn on June 29, 2022, 03:19:19 PM
A fit O'Callaghan plays Dublin win. He doesn't they don't.
Kilkenny still has it and will cause Kerry bother.
Johnny cooper for a red card assuming he plays >:(
Has the makings of a very good game.
Yep its that simple for me too. If Con plays Dublin will beat Kerry I think. Dublin Galway final.
Are you lads forgetting Con O'Callaghan played against Mayo last year and Dublin lost?
The fitness of David Clifford will be more of a decider than Con O'Callaghan.
He wasn't playing well at all this year. When not injured he has been this year.
I just think they will get goals if he plays. Look at the Kildare game - the blitz Dublin did he made happen.
The way Kildare defended made that happen. You could sail a cruise ship through the middle of their defence.
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Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 05, 2022, 06:09:35 PM
Quote from: ck on July 05, 2022, 05:12:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 29, 2022, 03:19:19 PM
A fit O'Callaghan plays Dublin win. He doesn't they don't.
Kilkenny still has it and will cause Kerry bother.
Johnny cooper for a red card assuming he plays >:(
Has the makings of a very good game.
Yep its that simple for me too. If Con plays Dublin will beat Kerry I think. Dublin Galway final.
Are you lads forgetting Con O'Callaghan played against Mayo last year and Dublin lost?
The fitness of David Clifford will be more of a decider than Con O'Callaghan.
He wasn't playing well at all this year. When not injured he has been this year.
I just think they will get goals if he plays. Look at the Kildare game - the blitz Dublin did he made happen.
The way Kildare defended made that happen. You could sail a cruise ship through the middle of their defence.
I think kildare got carried away with league win against the dubs. A buck from Kildare was telling me the y elebrated for 2 days after the win.
Kerry deliberately not going for goals against Limerick and Mayo. That will change Sunday.
Quotehis seems to be Con's injury. Presumably on a leg/foot/ankle. Happened around 3 weeks ago.
Close, Knee
Dublin will win this with regardless of injuries.
Cork man marked Fenton for the 1st half and I expect Kerry to try the same, Fenton broke free in the second half against Cork, I'd expect the same v Kerry. Tom O'Sullivan won't get the free reign that we gave him the last day. I'm edging towards Dublin by 2 to 3 points.
Who in the Dublin full forward line will be able to mark Tom O'Sullivan as he gets forward? Poor Cillian O'Connor was a broken man by the end of the game as he tried to chase back down the field after O'Sullivan for the umpteeth time.
Quote from: Laois Rising on July 08, 2022, 05:42:35 PM
Who in the Dublin full forward line will be able to mark Tom O'Sullivan as he gets forward? Poor Cillian O'Connor was a broken man by the end of the game as he tried to chase back down the field after O'Sullivan for the umpteeth time.
And how will Geaney and Clifford cope with chasing Murchan and Gannon ?
Not that any of the above will be a deciding factor, as this is a game where both sets of defenders will be concentrating on defending far more than any championship game they've played this year.
Seems certain that McCarthy will be in for the Dubs, but O'Callaghan out. Disappointing!
Con O'Callaghan not named on the Dublin 26. Remains to be seen if that will be the case tomorrow.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 09, 2022, 03:55:56 PM
Con O'Callaghan not named on the Dublin 26. Remains to be seen if that will be the case tomorrow.
If he's not in the named 26, he's not allowed play.
However, I believe it's only the 15 that's been released so far and that means little as we usually just name the starting team from the previous game as 1-15.
Unless you have seen the 26?
Quote from: Hound on July 09, 2022, 04:01:32 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 09, 2022, 03:55:56 PM
Con O'Callaghan not named on the Dublin 26. Remains to be seen if that will be the case tomorrow.
If he's not in the named 26, he's not allowed play.
However, I believe it's only the 15 that's been released so far and that means little as we usually just name the starting team from the previous game as 1-15.
Unless you have seen the 26?
Was stated on RTÉ that he's not named on the 26. I presume they have viewed the published 26 on the program.
When Dublin beat Kerry tomorrow, I wonder how long we'll have to wait until Kerry are installed as favourites for next year's All-Ireland?
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Quote from: Blowitupref on July 09, 2022, 03:55:56 PM
Con O'Callaghan not named on the Dublin 26. Remains to be seen if that will be the case tomorrow.
If he's not in the named 26, he's not allowed play.
However, I believe it's only the 15 that's been released so far and that means little as we usually just name the starting team from the previous game as 1-15.
Unless you have seen the 26?
Was stated on RTÉ that he's not named on the 26. I presume they have viewed the published 26 on the program.
Presenter on RTE said 'not named in the Dublin starting 15'
Albeit, all rumours indicate he's not in the 26
Quote from: greatpoint on July 09, 2022, 04:23:26 PM
When Dublin beat Kerry tomorrow, I wonder how long we'll have to wait until Kerry are installed as favourites for next year's All-Ireland?
Kerry won't loss tomorrow
Quote from: TheMistro on July 09, 2022, 04:33:05 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on July 09, 2022, 04:23:26 PM
When Dublin beat Kerry tomorrow, I wonder how long we'll have to wait until Kerry are installed as favourites for next year's All-Ireland?
Kerry won't loss tomorrow
You been reading the papers?
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Quote from: TheMistro on July 09, 2022, 04:33:05 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on July 09, 2022, 04:23:26 PM
When Dublin beat Kerry tomorrow, I wonder how long we'll have to wait until Kerry are installed as favourites for next year's All-Ireland?
Kerry won't loss tomorrow
You been reading the papers?
Callaghan is out. Small, Rock and Costello won't get a sniff.
Dublin bench confirmed:
James McCarthy is no.21 (and will likely start)
Con O'Callaghan is not involved.
Jack O'Connor will be delighted with today result.
No Hawk-eye.
Kerry have learned from last year semi against. Expect them to build big first half lead.
Kerry have been quite flaky in recent years. Will Jack O'Connor make a difference ?
No goals in Dublin today. Costello has never scored in semi final
Quote from: seafoid on July 10, 2022, 03:14:36 PM
Kerry have been quite flaky in recent years. Will Jack O'Connor make a difference ?
Jack to surpass Micko. Has never lost to.Dubs in SF or QF
Ger - "it's an all ireland final in all but name"
.....
Looks unbelievable today there on tv. Picked the wrong game to go to, to watch them Derry feckers
One of the worst I've watched in croke park ever
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 10, 2022, 03:31:03 PM
Ger - "it's an all ireland final in all but name"
.....
That's going up on the door of the Galway dressingroom
Kerry had a good start
7mins in and we've a higher score than half time yesterday.
Early yellow card for Clifford.. wouldn't be surprised to see someone wrestling him to the ground later, in the hope to of picking up a second yellow.
John Small black card there's a surprise ;D
Thug.
Penalty to Kerry
What a dive. No shock small getting lined. Imagine he was from the North. Would be barred from every ground by the Mexicans
Canning and McStay hard to listen to.
Kerry moving the ball very quickly and aggressive when Dublin take it into contact they've been brilliant so far if they get this you can't see how the Dubs get back!
Didn't kick Comerford hard enough on the follow up.. Diving fanny
Could be a big turning point!
Some craic from Comerford.
Watch every goalkeeper up and down the country do that now.
And there won't be a word said about this on Sunday game. Only them damn nordies.
Has to be a red. Wreckless.
Quote from: 5times5times on July 10, 2022, 04:05:50 PM
And there won't be a word said about this on Sunday game. Only them damn nordies.
How come there's always a Nordie has to make everything about them?
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Quote from: seafoid on July 10, 2022, 04:02:03 PM
Penalty to Kerry
a bit soft
Jesus it was a stonewall penalty what were you watching??
Soft
reply shows he got him with both boots. Might be a red here
Dangerous play he could be in bother here!
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 10, 2022, 04:06:25 PM
Has to be a red. Wreckless.
He had every right to go for it imo. Ball was loose.
If that's a red then the games gone
Quote from: Turf on July 10, 2022, 04:06:39 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on July 10, 2022, 04:05:50 PM
And there won't be a word said about this on Sunday game. Only them damn nordies.
How come there's always a Nordie has to make everything about them?
Because the commentators have said its nothing but handbags. What was the diff in that and armagh Galway outside the eye part???
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 10, 2022, 04:06:25 PM
Has to be a red. Wreckless.
goalkeeper didnt have possession so had every right to kick it
Is it just me or did the camera move away from that mini melee very quickly? You'd wonder why!
FS, wasn't even a yellow card lol
Quote from: Estimator on July 10, 2022, 04:05:39 PM
Some craic from Comerford.
Watch every goalkeeper up and down the country do that now.
I hope Kerry batter the f**k out of them now.
Quote from: Mourne Red on July 10, 2022, 04:07:31 PM
If that's a red then the games gone
not even a yellow. FFS ref get a grip
Nothing! Hard to reconcile that with other incidents where the ball was there, but the play was reckless.
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Quote from: 5times5times on July 10, 2022, 04:05:50 PM
And there won't be a word said about this on Sunday game. Only them damn nordies.
How come there's always a Nordie has to make everything about them?
Because the commentators have said its nothing but handbags. What was the diff in that and armagh Galway outside the eye part???
Oh f**k off. Nordies aren't even playing today. Watch some good football for a change would you and stop moaning.
If you think that's a red you need to watch a different sport! Goalkeeper spills the ball. He chooses to dive at the feet of a shot he knows is coming.
Quote from: Gael80 on July 10, 2022, 04:08:19 PM
Is it just me or did the camera move away from that mini melee very quickly? You'd wonder why!
And the very first play of the game, pulling between 2 players.. but it was "heat of the battle"
Quote from: Nanderson on July 10, 2022, 04:08:16 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 10, 2022, 04:06:25 PM
Has to be a red. Wreckless.
goalkeeper didnt have possession so had every right to kick it
Of course he'd every right to go for it.
Kevin McStay talks some bullshit looking for a red card there. Biased commentary to Dublin
Comerford faked injury before the penalty it seemed like to put off the kicker and wind down the black card clock
Quote from: guevara on July 10, 2022, 04:09:20 PM
If you think that's a red you need to watch a different sport! Goalkeeper spills the ball. He chooses to dive at the feet of a shot he knows is coming.
Yup never a red. Ball was there to be played.
Quote from: full moon on July 10, 2022, 04:11:20 PM
Comerford faked injury before the penalty it seemed like to put off the kicker and wind down the black card clock
Clutching his head, yet his knee was treated. No way could he have given a red either.
Cormac Costello only plays well against tired legs coming off the bench. He never seems to turn up when he gets a start on the big days.
Comerford ensured around only 3min of the black card was actual.playing time. Also iced O'S.
Judging by the replay he was a yard or more off his line too.....
Classic Dublin.
McStay doesn't even try to hide his bias these days. He thinks it wasn't a penalty and Sean O'Sé was reckless.
Good Man Kevin! Keep chasing them Dublin euro's!
Quote from: full moon on July 10, 2022, 04:10:19 PM
Kevin McStay talks some bullshit looking
for a red card there. Biased commentary to Dublin
Kevin has a load in his trousers for kerry.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 10, 2022, 04:03:16 PM
Canning and McStay hard to listen to.
Sky arena then
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 10, 2022, 04:06:25 PM
Has to be a red. Wreckless.
Thought O'Shea should have seen red too.
Kerry have layed down a marker today. Should errect statue of Jack O'Connor. Legend. Had accumulator carrying over from last weekend Limerick, Kilkenny, Galway, Westmeath and Kerry. Easiet €500 ever made.
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Canning and McStay hard to listen to.
Sky arena then
Compared to Maloney and Fitzpatrick yesterday, Canning and McStay are terrible. Marty Morrissey is the worst of the lot though.
Dublin are poor enough
Quote from: tyroneman on July 10, 2022, 04:18:06 PM
Comerford ensured around only 3min of the black card was actual.playing time. Also iced O'S.
Not sure how he managed that. Down for 2 mins 37 seconds according to RTE.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 10, 2022, 04:03:16 PM
Canning and McStay hard to listen to.
McStay is so far up Dublin's hole. Totally biased. Looking for a red card for O'Shea.
This kerry team can do 7 in a row. Costello Kilkenny Rock awol
It's an ok match, if going a bit one sided. It's a bit tiresome hearing the usual suspects creaming themselves because it's Dublin and Kerry.
Dublin have been very wasteful, but the ref's big decisions going the way of Kerry. Personally thought O'Shea should of went. It was reckless to be swinging the foot with that force, that close to heads and body and he did make contact with head. The ball being there or not, there has to be a duty of care. Rugby has taken the right approach on things like this.
Quote from: TheMistro on July 10, 2022, 04:31:18 PM
This kerry team can do 7 in a row. Costello Kilkenny Rock awol
Costello in particular has been woeful
Kerry by 6
Dublin very poor lads. Kerry have been good in patches but Geaney has been shocking!
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This kerry team can do 7 in a row. Costello Kilkenny Rock awol
Costello in particular has been woeful
what do i know :-)
Game on.
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Quote from: TheMistro on July 10, 2022, 04:31:18 PM
This kerry team can do 7 in a row. Costello Kilkenny Rock awol
Costello in particular has been woeful
Aged well
Kerry rattled
Kerry by 1
That was some f**king goal. Right in the corner from distance. Momentum shift in Croker.
2 wides from Kerry
Kerry are a shambles here...
This probably wouldn't be close if O'Callaghan was on the field.
Kerry by 2
Ref might as well put a blue jersey on him
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Quote from: mrdeeds on July 10, 2022, 04:06:25 PM
Has to be a red. Wreckless.
goalkeeper didnt have possession so had every right to kick it
Of course he'd every right to go for it.
And he missed it ending up with 2 feet in the keeper. All day long a red
Quote from: Mourne Red on July 10, 2022, 04:51:38 PM
Ref might as well put a blue jersey on him
OSe should be gone.
Kerry backs have responded well.
Couple of home town decisions in the last 5mins.
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Quote from: 5times5times on July 10, 2022, 04:05:50 PM
And there won't be a word said about this on Sunday game. Only them damn nordies.
How come there's always a Nordie has to make everything about them?
Because the commentators have said its nothing but handbags. What was the diff in that and armagh Galway outside the eye part???
That he wasn't a'player?
Quote from: Mourne Red on July 10, 2022, 04:51:38 PM
Ref might as well put a blue jersey on him
Yep he is riding Kerry hard
Puke football
No score for the previous 10 minutes but Kerry score a point
Quote from: screenexile on July 10, 2022, 04:58:11 PM
Puke football
It's Dublin.. they're allowed to play like that, rest of the country aren't
2 points in quick succession by BAC. 1 point game
Will the Dubs go into the lead in injury time to win it?
Quote from: screenexile on July 10, 2022, 04:58:11 PM
Puke football
A tough watch, 2 over trained cynical teams, both being rode by the ref and loved by McStay in equal measures
Don't know why Kerry have stopped pressing the kickout both sides showing plenty of weaknesses for Galway to get at!
Jesus a goalie who can catch the ball.
Galway massive chance in final here.
Dublin getting all the calls last 15 mins or so.
Quote from: Turf on July 10, 2022, 05:04:36 PM
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Puke football
Fantastic compelling game.
Previous comment tongue in cheek. Would love to see this go to extra time. Ferocious contest
Penalties would be super
How is that not too long for the equaliser?
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Puke football
Fantastic compelling game.
its compelling but the standard is a good bit back from 3 or 4 years ago. Dublin in their prime are 10 points better than this team
5 mins additional time
Ose wins the free that might win it and he shouldn't be on the pitch
Not a foul.
ref now balancing it up
Ref is shite.. how's it moved from a mark to a free?
Kerry by 1
Beating this Dub team is like killing a badger
30 seconds left. A draw
Jaysus
Dirty dubs booing away!
Free between 65 and 45 m out to Kerry
What a kick!
Thank f**k for that.. Up the kingdom
Brilliant.
Kerry were very poor in that second half they fell apart after conceding the goal Galway will be licking their lips you would think!
Great kick to win it, but never a foul.
What a kick
Quote from: screenexile on July 10, 2022, 05:16:26 PM
Kerry were very poor in that second half they fell apart after conceding the goal Galway will be licking their lips you would think!
Kerry should have a couple of points to spare over Galway.
Some kick to win it but O'Shea is a horrible fcuker.
Yesssss
Quote from: clarshack on July 10, 2022, 05:17:44 PM
Some kick to win it but O'Shea is a horrible fcuker.
yeah - got away with an awful lot today
Kerry nearly threw that away. Missed pen. Fouling ball on the ground with only keeper to beat at start of 2nd half. Massive kick to win it.
Would have loved to watch another 20 mins of that.
I'd rather have played Dublin in the final - purely because their forward build up play is much slower than Kerry's. I would fear we'll struggle to contain them.
Time will tell
Galway will have the ref to beat in the final and will need to be 3 - 4 ahead going into the last 5. HQ have made the decision this is Kerry's year.
Quote from: pbat on July 10, 2022, 05:24:20 PM
Galway will have the ref to beat in the final and will need to be 3 - 4 ahead going into the last 5. HQ have made the decision this is Kerry's year.
Eh??
I'm totally neutral and I'd don't think there was anything untoward there!
Niall Scully has never been good enough for this team. Utter shite from him again today.
Congrats to Kerry.
Have to laugh at the comments that the ref helped Dublin
3 big calls - the penalty, the boot in the keepers mush and the free at the end. All went Kerry's way. All incorrect.
Quote from: galwayman on July 10, 2022, 05:22:42 PM
Would have loved to watch another 20 mins of that.
I'd rather have played Dublin in the final - purely because their forward build up play is much slower than Kerry's. I would fear we'll struggle to contain them.
Time will tell
Not sure.
If Galway can contain O'Shea and Clifford, Kerry don't have any other reliable scorers, Geaney is hit and miss. Galway can press well and Kerry are weak in goal and at midfield. I don't remember Kerry pressing or competing on any of Dublin's kick outs.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 10, 2022, 05:27:33 PM
Have to laugh at the comments that the ref helped Dublin
3 big calls - the penalty, the boot in the keepers mush and the free at the end. All went Kerry's way. All incorrect.
The penalty was 100% a penalty as was the last free. You have to tackle the ball and on both occasions the defender didn't.
The kick in the face I'm not sure about. At the time I thought it was maybe a red but O'Shea got the ball and the follow through connected so it was dangerous but not intentional... would be interested to know the rules on a situation like that.
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Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 10, 2022, 05:27:33 PM
Have to laugh at the comments that the ref helped Dublin
3 big calls - the penalty, the boot in the keepers mush and the free at the end. All went Kerry's way. All incorrect.
The penalty was 100% a penalty as was the last free. You have to tackle the ball and on both occasions the defender didn't.
The kick in the face I'm not sure about. At the time I thought it was maybe a red but O'Shea got the ball and the follow through connected so it was dangerous but not intentional... would be interested to know the rules on a situation like that.
Comerford not in possession = open season to pull on it
Anyone else notice the Dubs goalie shaking the shite out of the goal post just as the free was being taken?
Lads need to wise up about "O'Shea shouldn't have been on the pitch". If only he'd given Comerford the boot in the bollocks be deserved as well as the head.
Kerry were knackered
Paddy Neilan had a great game
Dublin are 20-30% off their 6 in a row level. Hard to know where Kerry are. Dhera
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Has to be a red. Wreckless.
goalkeeper didnt have possession so had every right to kick it
Of course he'd every right to go for it.
And he missed it ending up with 2 feet in the keeper. All day long a red
He didn't miss it, he got to the ball and Comerford saved it diving at his feet. It's seen clear as day on the slow mo replay that O'Sé got there and Comerford saved it, what are you watching?
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Has to be a red. Wreckless.
goalkeeper didnt have possession so had every right to kick it
Of course he'd every right to go for it.
And he missed it ending up with 2 feet in the keeper. All day long a red
He didn't miss it, he got to the ball and Comerford saved it diving at his feet. It's seen clear as day on the slow mo replay that O'Sé got there and Comerford saved it, what are you watching?
It was a poorly hit penalty but it should have been retaken, Comerford was well off his line , by the time O'Se hit it.
Quote from: TheMistro on July 10, 2022, 05:42:37 PM
Paddy Neilan had a great game
Thought he was excellent. Anyone who thinks that the rebound from the penalty wasn't loose and there to be contested needs to stop watching gaelic football.
Sometimes the better team doesn't win. I'm not convinced Dublin were the better team today but they were damn unlucky not to at least get extra time.
Kerry have been kicked in the nuts by Dublin a few times when they might have been the better team so they'll take this one and move on.
I thought the Dubs got into the heads of the Kerry players in the second half. Kerry were in a dangerous place in the last 5 minutes- they were knackered and the margins were tiny.
The Dubs could have won that match.
The penalty miss was the lifeline for Dublin if that was scored it would likely be Kerry winning pulling up and us neutrals wouldn't see the 2nd half drama. Sean O'Shea like any good player redeem himself with the late winner
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Scores from play
Dublin 11 from 20 55%
Kerry 11 from 17 64%
Sean O Shea & Clifford pure quality. Thought OShea should have got a yellow, immediately after the peno, very borderline dangerous play.
Tighten up application of the rules. The clock should be stopped on the 10 min penalty for a black card if there is an "injury". It looks very sloppy the way it is at present. Also frees should be kicked at or behind the position of the foul, not 10 to 20 yards nearer the goal. At present frees close to goal usually end up being kicked from in front of the posts!
Oshea contested the rebound with his kicking right boot. That's fine.
His left foot then came off the turf and went in to comerford's face.
Here you can see it https://twitter.com/radiocleary/status/1546149643813359618?s=21&t=zm8ljV_CuV97RMcPIEpseA
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 10, 2022, 05:27:33 PM
Have to laugh at the comments that the ref helped Dublin
3 big calls - the penalty, the boot in the keepers mush and the free at the end. All went Kerry's way. All incorrect.
Catch yourself on will ye
Quote from: pbat on July 10, 2022, 05:24:20 PM
Galway will have the ref to beat in the final and will need to be 3 - 4 ahead going into the last 5. HQ have made the decision this is Kerry's year.
If you think that Referee Today favoured Kerry then you are deluded. Brought Dublin back into the game with a few very soft frees, then gave a few very harsh ones against Kerry. He had a shocker.
Dublin have come out on the right end of these biased decisions for years. Today they werent good enough to take advantage of them.
Cic mor milteach
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You get out what you put in. Both teams played on the edge but Dublin played very cynical during the black card to run the clock at the time of the penalty. Clear penalty, maybe not the most robust or a foul but still a foul. Comerford played the cute hoor going down. Poor penalty and O Shea had every right to challenge for it. Caught him accidentally with the follow through. Then playing the arsehole shaking the goals for the last free. Sort of shit you'd see at a junior B game. As I said you get out what you put in. Fair play to Kerry, better football team but their legs ran out. Clifford and O Shea imperious in the first half, Dublin shackled Clifford well in the second half but more importantly they lifted the work rate round the middle and Kilkenny started getting on the ball and making things happen. Kerry just about deserved it but to my mind were the better team.
Neither team can play the poor mouth about the ref either. Both teams lucky the ref let it go for both teams. Both teams played on the edge and benefitted from it. Kerry just had more game changers.
Without a doubt if Con had played Dublin would have won.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on July 10, 2022, 09:31:15 PM
Without a doubt if Con had played Dublin would have won.
He played last year and Dublin lost to Mayo.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 10, 2022, 05:27:33 PM
Have to laugh at the comments that the ref helped Dublin
3 big calls - the penalty, the boot in the keepers mush and the free at the end. All went Kerry's way. All incorrect.
Have to laugh at you having to laugh. Even if you were right, and I don't think you are, what goes around comes around - I'm remembering Peter Crowley getting emptied in 2016 and no free to Kerry at a crucial stage. Cost them the game. Them's the breaks as the man said.
Kerry fully deserved to win. Saying that the referee favoured Kerry is delusional. As usual Dublin the home town team got the rub of the green. Kerry made hard work of it though.
The penalty was a stonewall penalty.. actually it was a deliberate trip black card if you were looking to be going by book, the keeper should have got a yellow for feigning an injury because after the penalty call he was chasing the ref around the pitch!! Twat..
The ball bounced up and it was ok for going g to or it.. the free out was after the keeper had the ball and touched inside the small box.
The time wasting for the black card was embarrassing
Dublin certainly got a few handy ones throughout the game and while I thought the last free was soft it was no softer than some of the other frees given. Best team won, Dublin looked lost till they scored the goal
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Then playing the arsehole shaking the goals for the last free. Sort of shit you'd see at a junior B game.
Was just checking the T.O. and the penalty for doing the above is (just) a yellow card. I didn't see he game on the TV, just listened to BBC radio coverage - was he booked?
It is actually a yellow card ball moved to a more favourable position
In the 81 minutes of action I thought Kerry was a few points the better team, the Dubs had their purple patch 2nd half which was included a goal against the run of play and eventually drew level but from watching it live in Croke park i always felt Kerry had control of the contest and would win be it late on as they did or in extra time.
13 long year wait for Kerry to beat Dublin is over and not surprised once they improved the team defensively that win would come. Interesting final ahead no doubt most will see Kerry winning comfortably i think it will be closer than most think especially if Galway bring the required intensity and get the match ups right on Kerry's key players.
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Then playing the arsehole shaking the goals for the last free. Sort of shit you'd see at a junior B game.
Was just checking the T.O. and the penalty for doing the above is (just) a yellow card. I didn't see he game on the TV, just listened to BBC radio coverage - was he booked?
It is actually a yellow card ball moved to a more favourable position
Presumably both football playing rules 4.19 & 4.36 count, then?
I can't quote the rule number lol! But look even speech play allows the ref to allow the free to be retaken again, players supporters haven't a clue sometimes
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Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 10, 2022, 05:27:33 PM
Have to laugh at the comments that the ref helped Dublin
3 big calls - the penalty, the boot in the keepers mush and the free at the end. All went Kerry's way. All incorrect.
Have to laugh at you having to laugh. Even if you were right, and I don't think you are, what goes around comes around - I'm remembering Peter Crowley getting emptied in 2016 and no free to Kerry at a crucial stage. Cost them the game. Them's the breaks as the man said.
Dessie Farrell said it was a free at the end
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It is actually a yellow card ball moved to a more favourable position
Presumably both football playing rules 4.19 & 4.36 count, then?
I can't quote the rule number lol! But look even speech play allows the ref to allow the free to be retaken again, players supporters haven't a clue sometimes
Houl on...
4.19 To interfere with a player taking a free kick, sideline kick or kick-out by jumping up and down, waving hands, or any other physical or verbal interference considered by the referee to be aimed at distracting the player taking the kick. Exception: A player holding his hands upright shall not constitute an interference. PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOULS - Free kick 13m more advantageous than the place of original kick - up to opponents' 13m line.
4.36 To interfere with goalposts to distract opponents or to gain an advantage. PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOULS - Caution offender; order off for second cautionable foul.
So he should have been booked, which would merely serve to "ice the kicker"...ref didn't buy it though.
End of game management in such scenarios is crucial...I wonder did Kerry consider dragging down every opponent when the resulting kickout was about to be taken?
The more you see it that was never a free at the end. The Dubs were robbed.
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The more you see it that was never a free at the end. The Dubs were robbed.
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Clifford won the ball and his man fell over the top of him I do t get people saying it was soft. You know as a back if you're behind and you don't get a punch on the ball most times you're conceding a free it was 100% a free!
Sunday Game having a competition as to who has the most boring voice... I can't call it!!
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Sunday Game having a competition as to who has the most boring voice... I can't call it!!
Watch something else
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The more you see it that was never a free at the end. The Dubs were robbed.
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Clifford won the ball and his man fell over the top of him I do t get people saying it was soft. You know as a back if you're behind and you don't get a punch on the ball most times you're conceding a free it was 100% a free!
And generally that's correct, but still soft (ish) could have let it develop a second or two and maybe a closer in free
I thought Kerry were the better side overall and it was just pure muscle memory and reputation that kept Dublin in the match. I thought the referee done well, the O'Shea kick to the head was purely accidental in my opinion. Something will have to be done about the time wasting around black cards though, Tyrone done the same thing against Armagh earlier in the championship but there's not much a referee can do about it.
Overall I was a bit underwhelmed by Kerry though. Take the 2 Clifford's and O'Shea out of that side and they are nothing special. Galway will go into the final as big underdogs but I think they have a decent punchers chance.
You could have a separate clock for the blackcard. A clock that stops everytime play stops.
That Dublin keeper should be called out for the antics he was at yesterday. Feigning injury out of no where right before the penalty then shaking the goal posts at the end.
I suspect McStay and Canning shaped a lot of peoples perception of the follow up to the penalty. I am just glad they weren't refereeing.
Be good if Maloney and Fitzmaurice get the Final gig but I can't see it.
Jobs for the old boys club.
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I suspect McStay and Canning shaped a lot of peoples perception of the follow up to the penalty. I am just glad they weren't refereeing.
He kicks the ball with the right (hard but totally fair), kicks the head with the left in a clearly deliberate action.
That's the problem people have with it. You would have the same problem if it happened to you.
Quote from: gallsman on July 10, 2022, 05:36:33 PM
Lads need to wise up about "O'Shea shouldn't have been on the pitch". If only he'd given Comerford the boot in the bollocks be deserved as well as the head.
;D Your some craic.
The ball was there to be contested, the knee into the head was a follow through, still a yellow card & a free out. Comerford acted the maggot & a kick in the balls would have been deserved. I watched it on sky, could not listen to Canning or McStay. Mind you Donnaghy wasn't much better. Canavan & McGuiness are good & easy to listen too, the presenter of the show is also good.
Second best game of the year, enjoyed it.
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Lads need to wise up about "O'Shea shouldn't have been on the pitch". If only he'd given Comerford the boot in the bollocks be deserved as well as the head.
;D Your some craic.
The ball was there to be contested, the knee into the head was a follow through, still a yellow card & a free out. Comerford acted the maggot & a kick in the balls would have been deserved. I watched it on sky, could not listen to Canning or McStay. Mind you Donnaghy wasn't much better. Canavan & McGuiness are good & easy to listen too, the presenter of the show is also good.
Second best game of the year, enjoyed it.
So it was a yellow card? So the ref got it wrong?
McStay was praising his fellow Rossie saying how great he was towards the end of the game after saying in the 1st half he had got all the big calls wrong.
You can say it was a soft free, but soft in the sense that it was stupid to give away. Clifford was at speed running away from goal 55m out! Really silly defending.
Then McStay calling for a red and when we go back even Ciaran Whelan wasn't complaining about the follow-up kick. I would argue that everyone saying how soft the penalty was failed to point out that O'Dell's left leg came across. He didn't complain at the time either, so he knew he had made a bollox of it!
Christ please please Darragh and Eamon for the Final!!
Kerry well deserved the win.Dublin poor first half and only played for 10-15 minutes. O'Shea probably should have been booked into first half but showed nerves of steel to kick that free.
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McStay was praising his fellow Rossie saying how great he was towards the end of the game after saying in the 1st half he had got all the big calls wrong.
You can say it was a soft free, but soft in the sense that it was stupid to give away. Clifford was at speed running away from goal 55m out! Really silly defending.
Then McStay calling for a red and when we go back even Ciaran Whelan wasn't complaining about the follow-up kick. I would argue that everyone saying how soft the penalty was failed to point out that O'Dell's left leg came across. He didn't complain at the time either, so he knew he had made a bollox of it!
Christ please please Darragh and Eamon for the Final!!
Silly free to concede but still a free nonetheless. The penalty was fairly soft but still a penalty too. The Kerry 14 metre free to go one up prior to that was a much softer one where the defender done everything right. Overall though I thought the referee done well, tried to let the game flow as much as possible.
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Without a doubt if Con had played Dublin would have won.
He played last year and Dublin lost to Mayo.
Con played out of position last year at 11. Dessie failure to bring Kilkenny out to centre forward cost Dublin the game against Mayo last year. Con would have made difference inside yesterday.
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Without a doubt if Con had played Dublin would have won.
He played last year and Dublin lost to Mayo.
Con played out of position last year at 11. Dessie failure to bring Kilkenny out to centre forward cost Dublin the game against Mayo last year. Con would have made difference inside yesterday.
Blah blah blah and if Clifford was fully fit he'd have rinsed them for another 6 points in the second half etc.
He had only a small role in the game, but fair fucks to Paul Murphy for having the balls to play the pass to Clifford to win that free at the end.
Think back to Donegal in the Ulster Final. We had the ball after a Derry miss, over a minute left to play in a level game in injury time. Instead of showing some balls and trying to work it up the field to try to win the game, we instead proceeded to handpass the ball around our own 45, everyone afraid to be the one to take a chance on losing the ball in a turnover, instead happy to take the game to extra time.
Dublin could easily have turned over that ball into Clifford, but those players are obviously coached and encouraged to have a go.
Fair play to both teams yesterday. That was two teams just going at it, playing brave, intelligent, highly entertaining football, won by a kick that will go down in GAA history.
Clifford - those first half points were just mind-boggling. Has there been another player who could do what he can, the sheer breadth of his skills, winning ball, throwing shapes to make a quick yard of space, using those inches of room to hit outrageously accurate shots from all over the place with either foot?
Just on the point about the commentary. I was very fortunate to watch both semifinals in the company of two Armagh players, two Tyrone players and three kilcoo players.
I brought up the point that McStay, Canning and Morrisey can be shockingly negative.
Where in the other hand everyone agreed that Maloney who brings alot of enthusiasm along with Fitmaurices expert analysis was the best combination going.
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Quote from: bcarrier on July 11, 2022, 09:27:29 AM
I suspect McStay and Canning shaped a lot of peoples perception of the follow up to the penalty. I am just glad they weren't refereeing.
He kicks the ball with the right (hard but totally fair), kicks the head with the left in a clearly deliberate action.
That's the problem people have with it. You would have the same problem if it happened to you.
Clearly deliberate. Lol
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on July 11, 2022, 12:46:11 PM
Just on the point about the commentary. I was very fortunate to watch both semifinals in the company of two Armagh players, two Tyrone players and three kilcoo players.
I brought up the point that McStay, Canning and Morrisey can be shockingly negative.
Where in the other hand everyone agreed that Maloney who brings alot of enthusiasm along with Fitmaurices expert analysis was the best combination going.
How was that fortunate what was so special about it?
Great game. Really enjoyed it. Kerry the better team. Few points
Clifford is in the word of the great Jimmy Magee "Different class"
Sean O'Shea what balls to kick that point at the end.
The Kerry tackling was a different level to last year.
Dublin clearly get a lot of 50:50 decisions that have helped them over the years to their 6 in a row. Good to see yesterdays ref stand up for the most part and award frees against them and also not fall for every single dive.
Comerford's actions at the penalty were disgraceful but I didn't hear O'Rouke come out and say he should be charged with bringing the game into disrepute?
2 years now since Dublin have won an All Ireland, the GAA will probably invest €20m into them over the next 3 years to stop the decline.
Thanks to the trojan work of Tyrone last year Football was brought back from the brink. Kerry and Galway are continuing in that same vein.
Quote from: trailer on July 11, 2022, 01:06:13 PM
Great game. Really enjoyed it. Kerry the better team. Few points
Clifford is in the word of the great Jimmy Magee "Different class"
Sean O'Shea what balls to kick that point at the end.
The Kerry tackling was a different level to last year.
Dublin clearly get a lot of 50:50 decisions that have helped them over the years to their 6 in a row. Good to see yesterdays ref stand up for the most part and award frees against them and also not fall for every single dive.
Comerford's actions at the penalty were disgraceful but I didn't hear O'Rouke come out and say he should be charged with bringing the game into disrepute?
2 years now since Dublin have won an All Ireland, the GAA will probably invest €20m into them over the next 3 years to stop the decline.
Thanks to the trojan work of TyroneMAYO last year Football was brought back from the brink. Kerry and Galway are continuing in that same vein.
O'Shea's was a great score but the key thing was it wasn't an equalizer!
If he had missed, game would have went to extra-time. So in certain respects, he wasn't under that much pressure.
Now, if they were 1 pt down, it'd be a different story.
Some kick all the same.
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I suspect McStay and Canning shaped a lot of peoples perception of the follow up to the penalty. I am just glad they weren't refereeing.
He kicks the ball with the right (hard but totally fair), kicks the head with the left in a clearly deliberate action.
That's the problem people have with it. You would have the same problem if it happened to you.
Clearly deliberate. Lol
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It was deliberate. Sorry if you'd agree but there is no reason for the left foot to come off the turf abd into comerford's face. It's the non kicking foot. He's knows what he done. The punishment is a red card.
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Quote from: bcarrier on July 11, 2022, 09:27:29 AM
I suspect McStay and Canning shaped a lot of peoples perception of the follow up to the penalty. I am just glad they weren't refereeing.
He kicks the ball with the right (hard but totally fair), kicks the head with the left in a clearly deliberate action.
That's the problem people have with it. You would have the same problem if it happened to you.
Clearly deliberate. Lol
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It was deliberate. Sorry if you'd agree but there is no reason for the left foot to come off the turf abd into comerford's face. It's the non kicking foot. He's knows what he done. The punishment is a red card.
That was not deliberate and not a red card. Right call.
Kerry deserving victors but wouldnt have it as good as Galway/Armagh game.
Kerry very defensive in the first half - 12/13 players behind the ball which Dublin found very difficult to break down
Comerfords time wasting and shaking the goal posts was deplorable.
Hardly any point giving black cards out now given the lack of play during those 10mins for teams
O'Shea was well entitled to go for the rebound - but he definitely left the boot in to connect with Comerford - could have easily avoided him
Clifford is a genius but his fitness levels have to be questioned - has to be carrying a knock as he completely went out of the game in the second half - even when he had chances he couldnt convert them
McCarthy was immense for the Dubs - a real leader
Black card should be for 15mins or 20 mins even and stop clock if lads feigning injury for 3 mins.
Would cut a lot of stuff out.
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Quote from: bcarrier on July 11, 2022, 09:27:29 AM
I suspect McStay and Canning shaped a lot of peoples perception of the follow up to the penalty. I am just glad they weren't refereeing.
He kicks the ball with the right (hard but totally fair), kicks the head with the left in a clearly deliberate action.
That's the problem people have with it. You would have the same problem if it happened to you.
Clearly deliberate. Lol
[url] https://twitter.com/radiocleary/status/1546149643813359618?s=21&t=wmLz49qwzC8KFQ3hl7qfQQ [url]
It was deliberate. Sorry if you'd agree but there is no reason for the left foot to come off the turf abd into comerford's face. It's the non kicking foot. He's knows what he done. The punishment is a red card.
That was not deliberate and not a red card. Right call.
I'm sure everyone who thinks that would think the same if it was someone's boot in their mush or their child's or brothers face.
It's clearly deliberate, the left foot would never go near comerford's face in a natural movement.
I'm not sure anyone has mentioned this. What was the dublin defender at for Sean O'Shea's goal? Seemed to just go to his man and leave a massive gap for O'Shea to go at. Dunno what he was at.
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I'm not sure anyone has mentioned this. What was the dublin defender at for Sean O'Shea's goal? Seemed to just go to his man and leave a massive gap for O'Shea to go at. Dunno what he was at.
Usual situation these days is for the forward to turn back and recycle it - 9 times out of 10 this happens so I presume the defender thought this was what O'Shea was going to do and second guessed it a bit, while O'Shea just just a chance and turned the opposite way towards goal.
Didn't see your comment but fully agree. It was like - you're not my responsibility I'm getting my man forgetting the fact that there was now a massive gaping space for him to go for goal.
Quote from: J70 on July 11, 2022, 12:20:31 PM
He had only a small role in the game, but fair fucks to Paul Murphy for having the balls to play the pass to Clifford to win that free at the end.
Think back to Donegal in the Ulster Final. We had the ball after a Derry miss, over a minute left to play in a level game in injury time. Instead of showing some balls and trying to work it up the field to try to win the game, we instead proceeded to handpass the ball around our own 45, everyone afraid to be the one to take a chance on losing the ball in a turnover, instead happy to take the game to extra time.
Dublin could easily have turned over that ball into Clifford, but those players are obviously coached and encouraged to have a go.
Fair play to both teams yesterday. That was two teams just going at it, playing brave, intelligent, highly entertaining football, won by a kick that will go down in GAA history.
Clifford - those first half points were just mind-boggling. Has there been another player who could do what he can, the sheer breadth of his skills, winning ball, throwing shapes to make a quick yard of space, using those inches of room to hit outrageously accurate shots from all over the place with either foot?
And the kick out for that play was one of those down the middle 20 yard risky ones. Again the goalie and I think it was Morley made it stick and got Kerry up the pitch. Ballsy and risky.
@Captain Scarlet McStay is a born and bred Mayo man and played underage and senior football for them.
Quote from: J70 on July 11, 2022, 12:20:31 PM
He had only a small role in the game, but fair fucks to Paul Murphy for having the balls to play the pass to Clifford to win that free at the end.
Think back to Donegal in the Ulster Final. We had the ball after a Derry miss, over a minute left to play in a level game in injury time. Instead of showing some balls and trying to work it up the field to try to win the game, we instead proceeded to handpass the ball around our own 45, everyone afraid to be the one to take a chance on losing the ball in a turnover, instead happy to take the game to extra time.
Dublin could easily have turned over that ball into Clifford, but those players are obviously coached and encouraged to have a go.
Fair play to both teams yesterday. That was two teams just going at it, playing brave, intelligent, highly entertaining football, won by a kick that will go down in GAA history.
Clifford - those first half points were just mind-boggling. Has there been another player who could do what he can, the sheer breadth of his skills, winning ball, throwing shapes to make a quick yard of space, using those inches of room to hit outrageously accurate shots from all over the place with either foot?
Good post, the team that shows courage deserves to win. Dublin also showed courage, a very good & enjoyable game. Costellos finish was top class.
Donegal do arse about & deserve f all, Bonner needs to go. No ambition.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 11, 2022, 01:52:55 PM
@Captain Scarlet McStay is a born and bred Mayo man and played underage and senior football for them.
Mayo man living in Ros town, former army man based in Athlone. Has managed Ros seniors, minors, numerous Ros Gaels sides, aswell as Brigids, where he won All Ireland club. He is still very much a Mayo man, can people not tell with the sh*te he talks ;D
Decent manager in fairness, played on the same pitch, hard going in terms of moaning, wanted every ball going his way.
Quote from: Rudi on July 11, 2022, 02:18:37 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 11, 2022, 01:52:55 PM
@Captain Scarlet McStay is a born and bred Mayo man and played underage and senior football for them.
Mayo man living in Ros town, former army man based in Athlone. Has managed Ros seniors, minors, numerous Ros Gaels sides, aswell as Brigids, where he won All Ireland club. He is still very much a Mayo man, can people not tell with the sh*te he talks ;D
Decent manager in fairness, played on the same pitch, hard going in terms of moaning, wanted every ball going his way.
See his commentary on the Eoghan McLoughlin jaw break tackle v Dublin last year for his efforts to be balanced, he's a dose.
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I suspect McStay and Canning shaped a lot of peoples perception of the follow up to the penalty. I am just glad they weren't refereeing.
He kicks the ball with the right (hard but totally fair), kicks the head with the left in a clearly deliberate action.
That's the problem people have with it. You would have the same problem if it happened to you.
Clearly deliberate. Lol
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It was deliberate. Sorry if you'd agree but there is no reason for the left foot to come off the turf abd into comerford's face. It's the non kicking foot. He's knows what he done. The punishment is a red card.
That was not deliberate and not a red card. Right call.
I'm sure everyone who thinks that would think the same if it was someone's boot in their mush or their child's or brothers face.
It's clearly deliberate, the left foot would never go near comerford's face in a natural movement.
I got many the accidental hit playing football. Did I automatically think they were on purpose. No. For me that's accidental. The normal movement after running in at speed to kick the ball is forward motion. That momentum doesn't automatically stop upon striking the ball. So the next step is forward by the other foot. Anyway, it's all opinions, only one person knows for sure.
Quote from: J70 on July 11, 2022, 12:20:31 PM
He had only a small role in the game, but fair fucks to Paul Murphy for having the balls to play the pass to Clifford to win that free at the end.
Think back to Donegal in the Ulster Final. We had the ball after a Derry miss, over a minute left to play in a level game in injury time. Instead of showing some balls and trying to work it up the field to try to win the game, we instead proceeded to handpass the ball around our own 45, everyone afraid to be the one to take a chance on losing the ball in a turnover, instead happy to take the game to extra time.
Dublin could easily have turned over that ball into Clifford, but those players are obviously coached and encouraged to have a go.
Fair play to both teams yesterday. That was two teams just going at it, playing brave, intelligent, highly entertaining football, won by a kick that will go down in GAA history.
Clifford - those first half points were just mind-boggling. Has there been another player who could do what he can, the sheer breadth of his skills, winning ball, throwing shapes to make a quick yard of space, using those inches of room to hit outrageously accurate shots from all over the place with either foot?
Thats a good point on Murphys pass to Clifford. It looked fairly simple but it was the brave option given the time of the match and sometimes you have to take a risk to win rather than playing not to lose. Derry or Donegal would have recycled possession if faced with that same situation since that is the way that they are coached. I thought Kerry for about the last 20 minutes were a bit too tentative when the game got close and it looked like if it went to extra time that Dublin actually had the momentum. So to kick that monstrous free at the death and see the game out was massive for Kerry. It will be held in the same esteem as Cluxtons free kick in 2011 in years to come.
If Kerry do win the All Ireland then Paddy Tallys stock will go through the roof. I watched the game yesterday in a bar and every time Kerry shut Dublin down or turned them over in defence it was all put down to Paddy Tally. Given that he will have an intimate knowledge of Galway he will be even more important in the next 2 weeks. If you can't beat them join them.
https://mobile.twitter.com/radiokerrysport/status/1546524847836102659
Winning this match engendered a particularly emotional response from Kerry. Failure was close. Failure was unthinkable. The 6 in a row caused PTSD in the Kingdom.
They really would prefer to be playing Mayo. Jack went into the Mayo dressingroom after the 2004 final and told the Mayo players , no Sam since 1951, that Kerry needed the win more than they did. Times have changed since given the Kerry famine.
Quote from: seafoid on July 11, 2022, 09:28:27 PM
Winning this match engendered a particularly emotional response from Kerry. Failure was close. Failure was unthinkable. The 6 in a row caused PTSD in the Kingdom.
They really would prefer to be playing Mayo. Jack went into the Mayo dressingroom after the 2004 final and told the Mayo players , no Sam since 1951, that Kerry needed the win more than they did. Times have changed since given the Kerry famine.
Jack always times his entrance. All Ireland in his first year in 2004, came back in 09 and now back again.
Quote from: Gael85 on July 11, 2022, 09:41:42 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 11, 2022, 09:28:27 PM
Winning this match engendered a particularly emotional response from Kerry. Failure was close. Failure was unthinkable. The 6 in a row caused PTSD in the Kingdom.
They really would prefer to be playing Mayo. Jack went into the Mayo dressingroom after the 2004 final and told the Mayo players , no Sam since 1951, that Kerry needed the win more than they did. Times have changed since given the Kerry famine.
Jack always times his entrance. All Ireland in his first year in 2004, came back in 09 and now back again.
Jack always seems to win the All-Ireland the year after Tyrone won it.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 11, 2022, 10:23:11 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on July 11, 2022, 09:41:42 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 11, 2022, 09:28:27 PM
Winning this match engendered a particularly emotional response from Kerry. Failure was close. Failure was unthinkable. The 6 in a row caused PTSD in the Kingdom.
They really would prefer to be playing Mayo. Jack went into the Mayo dressingroom after the 2004 final and told the Mayo players , no Sam since 1951, that Kerry needed the win more than they did. Times have changed since given the Kerry famine.
Jack always times his entrance. All Ireland in his first year in 2004, came back in 09 and now back again.
Jack always seems to win the All-Ireland the year after Tyrone won it.
Yep, after failing against us in 2005, he timed his stints better! ;)