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Title: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Applesisapples on August 20, 2019, 12:11:04 PM
Maybe I'm over sensitive but I have felt for some time now that BBC NI with a few notable exceptions treat nationalist politicians, especially SF differently to Unionists. Compare Jayne McCormicks aggressive interrogation or Martin o'Muilleoir (hope the spelling is good) with this morning's kid gloves handling of Arelene by Noel Thompson.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: haranguerer on August 20, 2019, 12:36:39 PM
Agree wholeheartedly. and actually feel it has been getting worse over the last couple of years, perhaps as possibility of UI moves closer. I read Martin Dillons book on his life as a journalist (with the BBC for some time) lately, and it made clear the entrenched unionism in the BBC - a desire by top brass to 'meet one of them' (a loyalist killer), parties in the office on the 12th to watch parades etc - it seemed to have  moved on a bit, but now I'm not so sure at all.

Arlene on this morning saying must condemn violence whenever it is, rolling her eyes the night before at the murder of McAnespie, and posing with Para banners. That hypocrisy should have been pulled straight away.

Are any of their senior presenters nationalist? Certainly the major programmes are unionist, in ranging degrees of staunchness - Thompson, Nolan, Conor Bradford. There's often very little balance.

Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: yellowcard on August 20, 2019, 01:04:57 PM
A lot of the old sectarianism still pervades the BBC. Nolan's indulgence of Jamie Bryson, Jim Allister, Jim Wilson, Nelson McCausland and the likes being a prime example. His show is like a sectarian version of Jerry Springer aimed at setting people off against each other. It relies on sensationalism and whipping poeple into a frenzy for the purposes of ratings. Gutter journalism which appeals to the lowest common denominator. In a divided society that we live in, his only loyalty is to his own pocket.   
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: balladmaker on August 20, 2019, 01:16:07 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 20, 2019, 01:04:57 PM
A lot of the old sectarianism still pervades the BBC. Nolan's indulgence of Jamie Bryson, Jim Allister, Jim Wilson, Nelson McCausland and the likes being a prime example. His show is like a sectarian version of Jerry Springer aimed at setting people off against each other. It relies on sensationalism and whipping poeple into a frenzy for the purposes of ratings. Gutter journalism which appeals to the lowest common denominator. In a divided society that we live in, his only loyalty is to his own pocket.

+1
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: bennydorano on August 20, 2019, 01:21:38 PM
A Snobby & an Elitist mentality would be more prevalent imo
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Hereiam on August 20, 2019, 02:07:00 PM
Could not agree more with this. Anytime a DUP member is on the Radio they get to speak without interuption where as if an SDLP or SF member is on they are interrupted or told that "we are running out of time".
Their coverage of the All Ireland Hurling final last night was shocking, a brief mention at the end of the sports section, they would sickin your hole
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: screenexile on August 20, 2019, 02:12:45 PM
Load of old shite and a myth peddled by too many sure to listen to Loyalists they feel the same way both sides going out for their way to spout the "poor me" mentality!!
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Snapchap on August 20, 2019, 02:21:32 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 20, 2019, 02:12:45 PM
Load of old shite and a myth peddled by too many sure to listen to Loyalists they feel the same way both sides going out for their way to spout the "poor me" mentality!!

A myth? Are you for real?

A valid point I seen raised on twitter:

On the 25th Anniversary of the Shankill bomb, bbc ni was saturated on tv & radio with news reports, documentaries and radio and web coverage for five days. Links to much of their coverage can still be found with a quick google. In contrast, they did not make even one MENTION whatsoever of the Loughinisland Massacre on it's 25th anniversary on TV, radio or web.

Does that not tell you something?

Incidentally, they continue to refuse to broadcast the 'No Stone Unturned' film about the massacre.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: bogball88 on August 20, 2019, 02:29:39 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 20, 2019, 01:04:57 PM
A lot of the old sectarianism still pervades the BBC. Nolan's indulgence of Jamie Bryson, Jim Allister, Jim Wilson, Nelson McCausland and the likes being a prime example. His show is like a sectarian version of Jerry Springer aimed at setting people off against each other. It relies on sensationalism and whipping poeple into a frenzy for the purposes of ratings. Gutter journalism which appeals to the lowest common denominator. In a divided society that we live in, his only loyalty is to his own pocket.
He was actually on the show this morning complaining how the BBC never contact him anymore to come on to shows lol
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Horse Box on August 20, 2019, 02:30:31 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on August 20, 2019, 02:21:32 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 20, 2019, 02:12:45 PM
Load of old shite and a myth peddled by too many sure to listen to Loyalists they feel the same way both sides going out for their way to spout the "poor me" mentality!!

A myth? Are you for real?

A valid point I seen raised on twitter:

On the 25th Anniversary of the Shankill bomb, bbc ni was saturated on tv & radio with news reports, documentaries and radio and web coverage for five days. Links to much of their coverage can still be found with a quick google. In contrast, they did not make even one MENTION whatsoever of the Loughinisland Massacre on it's 25th anniversary on TV, radio or web.

Does that not tell you something?

Incidentally, they continue to refuse to broadcast the 'No Stone Unturned' film about the massacre.

Well said !
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: RedHand88 on August 20, 2019, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: balladmaker on August 20, 2019, 01:16:07 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 20, 2019, 01:04:57 PM
A lot of the old sectarianism still pervades the BBC. Nolan's indulgence of Jamie Bryson, Jim Allister, Jim Wilson, Nelson McCausland and the likes being a prime example. His show is like a sectarian version of Jerry Springer aimed at setting people off against each other. It relies on sensationalism and whipping poeple into a frenzy for the purposes of ratings. Gutter journalism which appeals to the lowest common denominator. In a divided society that we live in, his only loyalty is to his own pocket.

+1

+2
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: RedHand88 on August 20, 2019, 03:53:56 PM
Quote from: bogball88 on August 20, 2019, 02:29:39 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 20, 2019, 01:04:57 PM
A lot of the old sectarianism still pervades the BBC. Nolan's indulgence of Jamie Bryson, Jim Allister, Jim Wilson, Nelson McCausland and the likes being a prime example. His show is like a sectarian version of Jerry Springer aimed at setting people off against each other. It relies on sensationalism and whipping poeple into a frenzy for the purposes of ratings. Gutter journalism which appeals to the lowest common denominator. In a divided society that we live in, his only loyalty is to his own pocket.
He was actually on the show this morning complaining how the BBC never contact him anymore to come on to shows lol

That is because you are an idiot Jim!
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Eamonnca1 on August 20, 2019, 04:55:49 PM
David Dunseith is sorely missed. He was firm but fair. I always felt he gave it to both sides in more-or-less equal measure.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: screenexile on August 20, 2019, 05:55:19 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 20, 2019, 04:55:49 PM
David Dunseith is sorely missed. He was firm but fair. I always felt he gave it to both sides in more-or-less equal measure.

Carruthers and Crawley both do I think this thread is nonsense!!
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Minder on August 20, 2019, 06:06:38 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 20, 2019, 05:55:19 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 20, 2019, 04:55:49 PM
David Dunseith is sorely missed. He was firm but fair. I always felt he gave it to both sides in more-or-less equal measure.

Carruthers and Crawley both do I think this thread is nonsense!!

Do people think Nolan and the presenters book the guests on these shows ?
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Snapchap on August 20, 2019, 07:03:54 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 20, 2019, 05:55:19 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 20, 2019, 04:55:49 PM
David Dunseith is sorely missed. He was firm but fair. I always felt he gave it to both sides in more-or-less equal measure.

Carruthers and Crawley both do I think this thread is nonsense!!

Again I ask, if bbcni is not biased, why did they have extensive 5 day coverage of the 25th anniversary of the Shankill Bomb across all platforms (including specially produced documentaries) and a short time later not even one make single mention on tv, radio or web of the 25th Anniversary of the Loughinisland massacre?
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Eamonnca1 on August 20, 2019, 08:54:39 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 20, 2019, 05:55:19 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 20, 2019, 04:55:49 PM
David Dunseith is sorely missed. He was firm but fair. I always felt he gave it to both sides in more-or-less equal measure.

Carruthers and Crawley both do I think this thread is nonsense!!

What?
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on August 20, 2019, 11:10:37 PM
Aside from the main point of this thread which I think has an element of truth, BBC Radio 6 counties is utter tripe these days. Talkback was a decent show but is ruined when they started playing music during it. Conor Bradford is about the worst presenter you'll find on radio anywhere. An absolutely woeful interviewer. Then you have Joel Taggart. I'll leave that at that.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: BarryBreensBandage on August 20, 2019, 11:16:44 PM
The BBC iplayer has some great stuff on it with regards to comedy, documentaries etc.
But when it comes to NI , they are just like the politicians, stagnant. Giving a platform to the person that says the most controversial thing that week in this backwater of nothing.
Can't disagree with the bias on the anniversaries point.
But, in general, I get the feeling that the broadcasters, politicians, journalists have absolutely f**k all to report on because there is no government in place!
And so naturally, they retreat to the tribal lines, ensuring that they, in some small way, are still relevant, and to sustain their livelihood.
Brexit and the fall of stormont have given these people the excuse to become lazy.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 20, 2019, 11:37:08 PM
The day Jamie Bryson started getting air time on Nolan on the bck of less than a few hundred odd votes was the beginning of the BBC. Nolans a shock jock who have nothing to discuss if there was no troubles here.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: BennyCake on August 21, 2019, 12:26:14 AM
The clue is in the name, British Broadcasting Corporation. They push the British message and agenda in the North. Of course they're biased.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Armagh18 on August 21, 2019, 06:40:55 AM
If you're watching the BBC for anything other than the peaky blinders you're wasting your time.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: omaghjoe on August 21, 2019, 06:47:49 AM
They've been at it for years at the weather forecast too. How many times do you see them give prolonged rain for Omagh or Derry but then Bangor gets sunny periods
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: screenexile on August 21, 2019, 09:17:49 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 21, 2019, 06:47:49 AM
They've been at it for years at the weather forecast too. How many times do you see them give prolonged rain for Omagh or Derry but then Bangor gets sunny periods

Not at all OJ. . . sure it's always Sunny in Derry hi!!
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: lurganblue on August 21, 2019, 09:19:31 AM
Quote from: screenexile on August 21, 2019, 09:17:49 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 21, 2019, 06:47:49 AM
They've been at it for years at the weather forecast too. How many times do you see them give prolonged rain for Omagh or Derry but then Bangor gets sunny periods

Not at all OJ. . . sure it's always Sunny in Derry hi!!

In fairness i think it was proved over the summer there that it is in fact hotter in Derry than it is in Londonderry.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Godsown on August 21, 2019, 10:29:00 AM
Whole Nolan show dedicated to the lack of airtime given to loyalists and the poor image they have in media. Who do you think the guests on the show were? Seamy and Jim Wilson. You couldn't make it up. In other news Trump cancels visit to Denmark because he can't buy Greenland. Mad mad world
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Denn Forever on August 21, 2019, 10:54:21 AM
Think of the mining opportunities unexploited in Greenland.  Gotta be oil.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 21, 2019, 10:54:39 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on August 20, 2019, 07:03:54 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 20, 2019, 05:55:19 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 20, 2019, 04:55:49 PM
David Dunseith is sorely missed. He was firm but fair. I always felt he gave it to both sides in more-or-less equal measure.

Carruthers and Crawley both do I think this thread is nonsense!!

Again I ask, if bbcni is not biased, why did they have extensive 5 day coverage of the 25th anniversary of the Shankill Bomb across all platforms (including specially produced documentaries) and a short time later not even one make single mention on tv, radio or web of the 25th Anniversary of the Loughinisland massacre?

I'd be keen to hear an answer to this as well?
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Armamike on August 21, 2019, 11:38:02 AM
Jim 'my community' Wilson.  He's hard to listen to. Gets angry at hello.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: RedHand88 on August 21, 2019, 12:41:22 PM
Quote from: Armamike on August 21, 2019, 11:38:02 AM
Jim 'my community' Wilson.  He's hard to listen to. Gets angry at hello.

What is his actual job? Why does he get some much airtime???
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2019, 12:44:50 PM
Ex paramilitary given a job to keep the peace aka community worker...

(Not all mind you but there are a good few out there!)
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Armamike on August 21, 2019, 01:08:00 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 21, 2019, 12:41:22 PM
Quote from: Armamike on August 21, 2019, 11:38:02 AM
Jim 'my community' Wilson.  He's hard to listen to. Gets angry at hello.

What is his actual job? Why does he get some much airtime???

Because he's the voice of his community.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: BennyCake on August 21, 2019, 09:08:17 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on August 21, 2019, 09:19:31 AM
Quote from: screenexile on August 21, 2019, 09:17:49 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 21, 2019, 06:47:49 AM
They've been at it for years at the weather forecast too. How many times do you see them give prolonged rain for Omagh or Derry but then Bangor gets sunny periods

Not at all OJ. . . sure it's always Sunny in Derry hi!!

In fairness i think it was proved over the summer there that it is in fact hotter in Derry than it is in Londonderry.

Must be those Internment bonfires.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Eamonnca1 on August 21, 2019, 09:09:32 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 21, 2019, 12:41:22 PM
Quote from: Armamike on August 21, 2019, 11:38:02 AM
Jim 'my community' Wilson.  He's hard to listen to. Gets angry at hello.

What is his actual job? Why does he get some much airtime???

I get the impression he gets paid to troll social media and appear on Talkback. Probably doesn't do a lot of actual productive work in a typical day.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Applesisapples on August 22, 2019, 03:18:20 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 20, 2019, 05:55:19 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 20, 2019, 04:55:49 PM
David Dunseith is sorely missed. He was firm but fair. I always felt he gave it to both sides in more-or-less equal measure.

Carruthers and Crawley both do I think this thread is nonsense!!
It's about opinions, Crawley and Carruthers are exceptions. I listen to EvEx and GMU everyday and in my opinion, and one I am entitled to, there is a different approach to SF and the DUP from a n umber of presenters in terms of questioning or accepting what is stated.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Applesisapples on August 22, 2019, 03:22:04 PM
My point really is not about who's on, but how they are treated and Nolan is another one who meekly accepts the loyalist view whilst acting tough on Nationalists.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: t_mac on August 22, 2019, 03:24:10 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on August 22, 2019, 03:22:04 PM
My point really is not about who's on, but how they are treated and Nolan is another one who meekly accepts the loyalist view whilst acting tough on Nationalists.

Nolan is the worse host / presenter out there, you deserve what you get tuning into that fat fcuk.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Sportacus on August 22, 2019, 10:40:32 PM
To be fair a caller was pretty bitter and derogatory towards Claire Hanna today and William Crawley was straight on it, called him out and shut him down.  And so he should of course.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Ambrose on August 22, 2019, 11:08:11 PM
BBC NI, the clue is in the name.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: haranguerer on August 23, 2019, 09:03:21 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 22, 2019, 10:40:32 PM
To be fair a caller was pretty bitter and derogatory towards Claire Hanna today and William Crawley was straight on it, called him out and shut him down.  And so he should of course.

He didn't shut him down. The caller insulted her personally twice, didn't contribute anything but abuse towards her, and Crawley (who is one of the better ones) just kept trying to get him to ask a q instead of cutting him straight off. He was on for two minutes, and Crawley just let him tail off without saying something about it as he should have.

Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Feckitt on August 23, 2019, 10:52:40 AM
Can people help me out here, because my memory of the whole thing is a bit Hazy.

On the 22nd Sept 2002, Armagh won the All Ireland, and obviously we were buzzing that night heading back up the road, listening all about the match on the radio.  When we were closer to home it was coming up to the 11 O'Clock news so I said lets switch to Radio Ulster to see what these cnuts have to say about Armagh.

I was stunned when their main headline was 'Armagh's All Ireland victory was marred tonight when  a large group of Armagh GAA fans attacked Lurgan Police Station'  If I recall correctly it later transpired that the police made the whole thing up out of badness, but BBC NI just reported it anyway.  Can anyone else remember the details of this strange incident!
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: lurganblue on August 23, 2019, 11:26:23 AM
Quote from: Feckitt on August 23, 2019, 10:52:40 AM
Can people help me out here, because my memory of the whole thing is a bit Hazy.

On the 22nd Sept 2002, Armagh won the All Ireland, and obviously we were buzzing that night heading back up the road, listening all about the match on the radio.  When we were closer to home it was coming up to the 11 O'Clock news so I said lets switch to Radio Ulster to see what these cnuts have to say about Armagh.

I was stunned when their main headline was 'Armagh's All Ireland victory was marred tonight when  a large group of Armagh GAA fans attacked Lurgan Police Station'  If I recall correctly it later transpired that the police made the whole thing up out of badness, but BBC NI just reported it anyway.  Can anyone else remember the details of this strange incident!

I was in Dublin travelling back to Lurgan that night so wasnt in the town to witness this but i believe there was an incident at the police station.  Nothing of significance as far as i know??  A bit of climbing and a few things thrown.  When i got back to the town the place was a hive of revellers all having a great time celebrating. No nonsense.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: sensethetone on August 23, 2019, 11:56:54 AM
They do love a GAA game marred by violence.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Feckitt on August 23, 2019, 12:16:23 PM
I googled it and found the original BBC report!!  I'm pretty certain that the police were later forced to admit that they were not attacked by hundreds of fans, that no petrol bombs were thrown, that there was no clash with loyalists, and that it was all a misunderstanding.  Anyway the thread of GAA bias just reminded me of this, because the f**king BBC couldn't even give Armagh their day in the sun without publishing this shite which obviously came from a very bitter police force who were raging that Armagh had won.


Football fans attack police station
Police in Lurgan County Armagh come under attack
Police were attacked by GAA supporters in the town
Police have blamed Gaelic football supporters for an attack on a County Armagh police station.
The trouble followed the county's historic victory in the All-Ireland football final over Kerry in Dublin on Sunday.

Several hundred people attacked the base in Lurgan where security cameras were pulled down.

Police said the crowd then clashed with loyalists in the town centre.


It is unfortunate that a minority of people tarnished the celebrations

Kenneth Annett PSNI
Later, a petrol bomb was thrown at the police station.

Inspector Kenneth Annett said while the police congratulated the Armagh players, their victory had been tarnished by some supporters.

"I would have to say that I am very disappointed to see that a number of people chose the occasion of a celebration to attack the police station, structurally damaging it, and also to throw missiles at police and other persons in Lurgan town centre," he said.

"It is unfortunate that a minority of people tarnished the celebrations which many hundreds of people were taking part in and enjoying.

"It is just regrettable that that occurred."

Irish tricolour flags were erected on a war memorial in the nearby town centre.

At least one police officer suffered minor injuries as security forces tried to end the fighting.

Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: trailer on August 23, 2019, 12:37:50 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on August 23, 2019, 09:03:21 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 22, 2019, 10:40:32 PM
To be fair a caller was pretty bitter and derogatory towards Claire Hanna today and William Crawley was straight on it, called him out and shut him down.  And so he should of course.

He didn't shut him down. The caller insulted her personally twice, didn't contribute anything but abuse towards her, and Crawley (who is one of the better ones) just kept trying to get him to ask a q instead of cutting him straight off. He was on for two minutes, and Crawley just let him tail off without saying something about it as he should have.

They can't win. Here's a good example. Two posters obviously listened to the same segment but both have different opinions on how it was handled.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: t_mac on August 23, 2019, 12:45:52 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 23, 2019, 12:37:50 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on August 23, 2019, 09:03:21 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 22, 2019, 10:40:32 PM
To be fair a caller was pretty bitter and derogatory towards Claire Hanna today and William Crawley was straight on it, called him out and shut him down.  And so he should of course.

He didn't shut him down. The caller insulted her personally twice, didn't contribute anything but abuse towards her, and Crawley (who is one of the better ones) just kept trying to get him to ask a q instead of cutting him straight off. He was on for two minutes, and Crawley just let him tail off without saying something about it as he should have.

They can't win. Here's a good example. Two posters obviously listened to the same segment but both have different opinions on how it was handled.

Whereas you would just make something up.  ;D
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 23, 2019, 01:02:08 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 23, 2019, 12:37:50 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on August 23, 2019, 09:03:21 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 22, 2019, 10:40:32 PM
To be fair a caller was pretty bitter and derogatory towards Claire Hanna today and William Crawley was straight on it, called him out and shut him down.  And so he should of course.

He didn't shut him down. The caller insulted her personally twice, didn't contribute anything but abuse towards her, and Crawley (who is one of the better ones) just kept trying to get him to ask a q instead of cutting him straight off. He was on for two minutes, and Crawley just let him tail off without saying something about it as he should have.

They can't win. Here's a good example. Two posters obviously listened to the same segment but both have different opinions on how it was handled.

Like someone listening to an interview where a couple of farmers were interviewed and some else listening to the same interview and hearing 90% of NI farmers interviewed.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: trailer on August 23, 2019, 01:18:07 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 23, 2019, 01:02:08 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 23, 2019, 12:37:50 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on August 23, 2019, 09:03:21 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 22, 2019, 10:40:32 PM
To be fair a caller was pretty bitter and derogatory towards Claire Hanna today and William Crawley was straight on it, called him out and shut him down.  And so he should of course.

He didn't shut him down. The caller insulted her personally twice, didn't contribute anything but abuse towards her, and Crawley (who is one of the better ones) just kept trying to get him to ask a q instead of cutting him straight off. He was on for two minutes, and Crawley just let him tail off without saying something about it as he should have.

They can't win. Here's a good example. Two posters obviously listened to the same segment but both have different opinions on how it was handled.

Like someone listening to an interview where a couple of farmers were interviewed and some else listening to the same interview and hearing 90% of NI farmers interviewed.

That's wasn't my point but hey if you can't understand it there's nothing I can do for you.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Applesisapples on August 26, 2019, 08:56:46 AM
Quote from: trailer on August 23, 2019, 01:18:07 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 23, 2019, 01:02:08 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 23, 2019, 12:37:50 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on August 23, 2019, 09:03:21 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 22, 2019, 10:40:32 PM
To be fair a caller was pretty bitter and derogatory towards Claire Hanna today and William Crawley was straight on it, called him out and shut him down.  And so he should of course.

He didn't shut him down. The caller insulted her personally twice, didn't contribute anything but abuse towards her, and Crawley (who is one of the better ones) just kept trying to get him to ask a q instead of cutting him straight off. He was on for two minutes, and Crawley just let him tail off without saying something about it as he should have.

They can't win. Here's a good example. Two posters obviously listened to the same segment but both have different opinions on how it was handled.

Like someone listening to an interview where a couple of farmers were interviewed and some else listening to the same interview and hearing 90% of NI farmers interviewed.

That's wasn't my point but hey if you can't understand it there's nothing I can do for you.
My original point was about the difference in interviewing Nationalists and Unionists, they tend to allow Unionists to make statements unchallenged, Doug Beattie was at it again on GMU on Friday regarding the back stop. I want to see robust interrogation of all political reps. There is a certain amount of institutional bias within the BBC which will take time to eradicate. They do have some good reporters such as Mark Simpson but the anchors seem to me to be unionist sheep, even our Seamus.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2019, 11:10:13 AM
The best solution is don't listen or watch their news.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Rossfan on August 26, 2019, 11:14:40 AM
And a campaign of not paying TV licences
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: GJL on August 26, 2019, 11:58:37 AM
Bryson tweeted a video of Billy Wright on Friday night glorifying him. One of the worst sectarian murderers of the troubles. Yet there is hardly a day he is not on BBC radio. Nolan needs to wise up.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Hereiam on August 26, 2019, 12:59:32 PM
I do believe since the death of Ian Paisley snr that Unionism/Loyalism (what is the difference) has struggled for a voice and this little mouth piece thinks he is it.
I do believe that there was a joint decision by some quarters in the DUP/UUP/UVF/UDA that this tit fronts the social media effort for their cause. What a mistake.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: GJL on August 26, 2019, 05:34:09 PM
Quote from: Hereiam on August 26, 2019, 12:59:32 PM
I do believe since the death of Ian Paisley snr that Unionism/Loyalism (what is the difference) has struggled for a voice and this little mouth piece thinks he is it.
I do believe that there was a joint decision by some quarters in the DUP/UUP/UVF/UDA that this tit fronts the social media effort for their cause. What a mistake.

Surely they could not get together as a group and come to a collective decision that he is the man for the job. My Labrador has more brains than him.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: BennyCake on August 26, 2019, 05:50:11 PM
Quote from: GJL on August 26, 2019, 11:58:37 AM
Bryson tweeted a video of Billy Wright on Friday night glorifying him. One of the worst sectarian murderers of the troubles. Yet there is hardly a day he is not on BBC radio. Nolan needs to wise up.

Nolan needs taking off the air. It's a platform for bigoted wingnuts from both sides to spew their vile sectarian opinions, that serves to add to the everyday hatred in this state.

While Talkback does similar, your man Crawley is a better anchor, and doesn't allow as much crap to happen as Nolan.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Franko on August 27, 2019, 07:50:43 AM
Mountbatten...

A few days ago, declassified FBI files showed that he was an alleged paedophile who (again allegedly) had boys shipped to Classiebawn from Kincora during his summer stays so he could abuse them.

A few of the more underground news outlets have been writing about this for a while, and have some quite compelling evidence, but no one was seemingly willing to give it any mainstream coverage.

However, you would think that with the release of an FBI dossier outlining pretty much this, the main news outlet in the country would have at least something to say on it.

But, true to form with the BBC, we had not a peep, not even as much as an article on the website.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Never beat the deeler on August 27, 2019, 08:08:11 AM
Quote from: Franko on August 27, 2019, 07:50:43 AM
Mountbatten...

A few days ago, declassified FBI files showed that he was an alleged paedophile who (again allegedly) had boys shipped to Classiebawn from Kincora during his summer stays so he could abuse them.

A few of the more underground news outlets have been writing about this for a while, and have some quite compelling evidence, but no one was seemingly willing to give it any mainstream coverage.

However, you would think that with the release of an FBI dossier outlining pretty much this, the main news outlet in the country would have at least something to say on it.

But, true to form with the BBC, we had not a peep, not even as much as an article on the website.

Can you please provide link to this info? Thanks

(edit: https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/fbi-files-claim-lord-louis-mountbatten-had-a-perversion-for-young-boys/news-story/3647da9b3e938ae4aa5d0f3608639479)
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: imtommygunn on August 27, 2019, 10:29:49 AM
In general I would say BBC can tend to be a bit of an Israeli mouthpiece so they have a bit of form not just here.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Hereiam on August 27, 2019, 10:40:47 AM
Even done a piece on Pedo Mountbatten today, have they no shame.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: markl121 on August 27, 2019, 01:05:38 PM
Quote from: Hereiam on August 27, 2019, 10:40:47 AM
Even done a piece on Pedo Mountbatten today, have they no shame.

Rte running a piece on him too
https://www.rte.ie/news/2019/0827/1071109-mountbatten-and-narrow-water-soldiers-deaths-remembered/
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: tiempo on August 27, 2019, 01:34:15 PM
Quote from: markl121 on August 27, 2019, 01:05:38 PM
Quote from: Hereiam on August 27, 2019, 10:40:47 AM
Even done a piece on Pedo Mountbatten today, have they no shame.

Rte running a piece on him too
https://www.rte.ie/news/2019/0827/1071109-mountbatten-and-narrow-water-soldiers-deaths-remembered/

They'll be lapping that up in the demilitrised shires of the free state
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on August 27, 2019, 01:35:44 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 23, 2019, 01:02:08 PM
Like someone listening to an interview where a couple of farmers were interviewed and some else listening to the same interview and hearing 90% of NI farmers interviewed.

The NI farmers have a great choir don't ye know.

Hundreds of voices singing as one in perfect unison - you'd never realise unless ye seen them live.


"Hit the diff and pray that she goes all the way"...
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on August 27, 2019, 01:40:17 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 26, 2019, 05:50:11 PM
Quote from: GJL on August 26, 2019, 11:58:37 AM
Bryson tweeted a video of Billy Wright on Friday night glorifying him. One of the worst sectarian murderers of the troubles. Yet there is hardly a day he is not on BBC radio. Nolan needs to wise up.

Nolan needs taking off the air. It's a platform for bigoted wingnuts from both sides to spew their vile sectarian opinions, that serves to add to the everyday hatred in this state.

While Talkback does similar, your man Crawley is a better anchor, and doesn't allow as much crap to happen as Nolan.

Nolan is a bit of a lightweight these days anyway...  8)
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: imtommygunn on August 27, 2019, 02:49:30 PM
Not any more - he's fallen off the wagon...
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: screenexile on August 27, 2019, 02:50:21 PM
Have you ever heard as much shite over Sean Coyle getting cancelled??

If half of the people complaining had listened more regularly he'd still be in his job!!!

Also it was absolute drivel... no more so than Hugo or Nolan but at least you know people listen to them I can't imagine Coyle's figures being that great!!
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: markl121 on August 27, 2019, 03:03:17 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 27, 2019, 02:50:21 PM
Have you ever heard as much shite over Sean Coyle getting cancelled??

If half of the people complaining had listened more regularly he'd still be in his job!!!

Also it was absolute drivel... no more so than Hugo or Nolan but at least you know people listen to them I can't imagine Coyle's figures being that great!!

Was never the same on his own. Needed gerry anderson with him
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Dougal Maguire on August 27, 2019, 03:13:58 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 27, 2019, 02:50:21 PM
Have you ever heard as much shite over Sean Coyle getting cancelled??

If half of the people complaining had listened more regularly he'd still be in his job!!!

Also it was absolute drivel... no more so than Hugo or Nolan but at least you know people listen to them I can't imagine Coyle's figures being that great!!
His show had the 3rd highest ratings on Radio Ulster but here don't let the truth step in the way of a good soundbite
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: playwiththewind1st on August 27, 2019, 03:42:33 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on August 27, 2019, 03:13:58 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 27, 2019, 02:50:21 PM
Have you ever heard as much shite over Sean Coyle getting cancelled??

If half of the people complaining had listened more regularly he'd still be in his job!!!

Also it was absolute drivel... no more so than Hugo or Nolan but at least you know people listen to them I can't imagine Coyle's figures being that great!!
His show had the 3rd highest ratings on Radio Ulster but here don't let the truth step in the way of a good soundbite

The Shipping Forecast is second & the farm prices slot has the highest amount  of listeners.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on August 27, 2019, 03:51:17 PM
I wonder what the farmers think on this oul Brexit craic?!
They shouldve done a programme on that...

Ill maybe start a new thread on this...
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on August 27, 2019, 04:30:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 27, 2019, 02:49:30 PM
Not any more - he's fallen off the wagon...

Just gettin a layer on for the winter so he is.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: BennyCake on August 27, 2019, 05:12:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 27, 2019, 02:49:30 PM
Not any more - he's fallen off the wagon...

...and into a chip shop?
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Main Street on August 27, 2019, 06:22:35 PM
It's not all bleak up north, the Gerry Anderson show from 1994 onwards are being made available as podcasts on the BBC player archive.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p071wzdt/episodes/downloads (https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p071wzdt/episodes/downloads)

and a few more at https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00030kw/episodes/player
(https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00030kw/episodes/player)

Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Franko on August 27, 2019, 08:44:52 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 27, 2019, 02:50:21 PM
Have you ever heard as much shite over Sean Coyle getting cancelled??

If half of the people complaining had listened more regularly he'd still be in his job!!!

Also it was absolute drivel... no more so than Hugo or Nolan but at least you know people listen to them I can't imagine Coyle's figures being that great!!

Did you ever listen to his show?
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: Dougal Maguire on August 27, 2019, 10:19:26 PM
I listened to his show quite regularly in the car. He had a lovely laid back style. It's a disgrace that his show has been axed. A lot of his listeners are older people who listen to him at home, and many of these will feel a sense of loss. On the subject of drivel I've never heard anything as poor as the Ray D'Arcy show. Painful to say the least.
Title: Re: BBC NI Bias?
Post by: BennyCake on August 27, 2019, 10:33:04 PM
There's very few radio stations/shows out there that are listenable.