Strongly being tipped as possibly next Tory leader. Does anyone know a person more toffee nosed? Proves imho that British are content to be part of an almost caste system. I think the guy's a ringer for Cuthbert Cringleworthy from the Beano
And he has a very young family of six children which he can spend more time with when it all inevitably goes wrong
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40506109
The Tories have very few leaders
The most punchable voice in British politics.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on July 07, 2017, 07:34:05 PM
The most punchable voice in British politics.
after Fox and Bojo
He is almost a parody of himself. Like you know when you watch BBC Question Time and it goes to the crowd you just know the Tories from a mile away.
He is just the most obvious Tory ever.
Not in a million years will he be a Conservative party leader.
He is a parody. He knows it and he plays to it. Would never vote Tory but he is harmless. Actually livens up the debate
How can anyone go about with a fkn name like that?
He's actually a good debater. If I were to go up against him I'd like to make sure I had my ducks lined up. And the English would probably love him by and large. Deep down, I think they find a certain comfort in having a ruling class and snooty establishment calling the shots. It's by no accident that the only way Labour got elected in 1997 was by putting a lightweight Tory in charge.
His state home was refurbished to the tune of 7.6 million all payed for by the tax payer. A serious debater. Destroyed all comers on Question Time.
He's got an SS/ Himley vibe
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 07, 2017, 10:14:17 PM
His state home was refurbished to the tune of 7.6 million all payed for by the tax payer. A serious debater. Destroyed all comers on Question Time.
It's not his home, it's owned by a conservation trust. On Facebook it's his home, but it's not in the real world.
Quote from: Minder on July 07, 2017, 10:31:27 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 07, 2017, 10:14:17 PM
His state home was refurbished to the tune of 7.6 million all payed for by the tax payer. A serious debater. Destroyed all comers on Question Time.
It's not his home, it's owned by a conservation trust. On Facebook it's his home, but it's not in the real world.
He lives there?
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 07, 2017, 10:41:47 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 07, 2017, 10:31:27 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 07, 2017, 10:14:17 PM
His state home was refurbished to the tune of 7.6 million all payed for by the tax payer. A serious debater. Destroyed all comers on Question Time.
It's not his home, it's owned by a conservation trust. On Facebook it's his home, but it's not in the real world.
He lives there?
I thought it was his wifes ancestral home.
Compared to listening to that fvckin moron Trump, I quite enjoy listening to JRM.....hes ver iltelligent, articulate and well read. I think he may also be a Catholic
Seemingly he has his own private bathroom at one of the posh london hotels
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on July 07, 2017, 09:48:55 PM
He's actually a good debater. If I were to go up against him I'd like to make sure I had my ducks lined up in a row. And the English would probably love him by and large. Deep down, I think they find a certain comfort in having a ruling class and snooty establishment calling the shots. It's by no accident that the only way Labour got elected in 1997 was by putting a lightweight Tory in charge.
;)
Quote from: LCohen on July 07, 2017, 09:04:32 PM
He is a parody. He knows it and he plays to it. Would never vote Tory but he is harmless. Actually livens up the debate
Not harmless, he has a vote and uses it:
(http://i.imgur.com/uCjC19o.jpg?1)
Could easily join the DUP.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on July 07, 2017, 09:48:55 PM
He's actually a good debater. If I were to go up against him I'd like to make sure I had my ducks lined up. And the English would probably love him by and large. Deep down, I think they find a certain comfort in having a ruling class and snooty establishment calling the shots. It's by no accident that the only way Labour got elected in 1997 was by putting a lightweight Tory in charge.
He is a good debater but don't be fooled like many are by his very proper pronunciation and his over use of big words.
Essentially, the English are a serf nation and they fall for the like of Rees-Mogg because of his 'Edwardian' presentation. He is a ditto for the actor Edward Fox particularly in his portrayal of Edward VIII and it is that throwback to 1950s, post war England that Rees-Mogg draws on.
Remember how Boris Johnson rose of being a media buffoon to being a foreign secretary and almost Tory leader buffoon. Rees-Mogg is more than capable of doing the same.
Just like many of those who claim to take the holier than thou route in Catholicism, Jacob Rees Mogg's principles soften enough for him to wriggle when he is found to profit from abortion pills. If his connection is as limited as he states then he would have taken himself out of the situation and not accepted the money.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jacob-rees-mogg-abortion-pills-abortion-rape-conservative-party-conference-tory-leadership-leader-a7976386.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jacob-rees-mogg-abortion-pills-abortion-rape-conservative-party-conference-tory-leadership-leader-a7976386.html)
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on July 07, 2017, 09:48:55 PM
He's actually a good debater. If I were to go up against him I'd like to make sure I had my ducks lined up. And the English would probably love him by and large. Deep down, I think they find a certain comfort in having a ruling class and snooty establishment calling the shots. It's by no accident that the only way Labour got elected in 1997 was by putting a lightweight Tory in charge.
I think that's 100% right.
It would be a progressive step if a devout Roman Catholic was to be British PM,not least for the reverberations for unionists here,who would be forced to distance themselves more from Orangeism.
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 01, 2017, 02:03:38 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on July 07, 2017, 09:48:55 PM
He's actually a good debater. If I were to go up against him I'd like to make sure I had my ducks lined up. And the English would probably love him by and large. Deep down, I think they find a certain comfort in having a ruling class and snooty establishment calling the shots. It's by no accident that the only way Labour got elected in 1997 was by putting a lightweight Tory in charge.
I think that's 100% right.
Correct the little Englander Conservative party member always wants the toff to be in charge even if there is no substance behind the clearly annunciated vowels and classical education, Boris Johnson is the other example. Caught on video reciting Kipling in Myanmar temple, as stated he knows the derogatory poem by heart but cannot relate its content to his context being in a Buddhist holy place - classical education is by rote learning with no empathy or development of emotional intelligence.
Conservatives are doomed to losing power at next election unless they can unearth a leader from the next generation who is part of middle England able to identify with the ordinary people and able to take the fight to the nonsense spouted by idiots in charge of labour such as McDonnell, etc.
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on October 01, 2017, 03:23:11 PM
Correct the little Englander Conservative party member always wants the toff to be in charge even if there is no substance behind the clearly annunciated vowels and classical education, Boris Johnson is the other example. Caught on video reciting Kipling in Myanmar temple, as stated he knows the derogatory poem by heart but cannot relate its content to his context being in a Buddhist holy place - classical education is by rote learning with no empathy or development of emotional intelligence.
Conservatives are doomed to losing power at next election unless they can unearth a leader from the next generation who is part of middle England able to identify with the ordinary people and able to take the fight to the nonsense spouted by idiots in charge of labour such as McDonnell, etc.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Corbyn's such an unimpressive leader he even manages to make Prime Minister's Questions sound boring. There could be a role to play for the Lib Dems yet.
Quote from: T Fearon on October 01, 2017, 02:35:40 PM
It would be a progressive step if a devout Roman Catholic was to be British PM,not least for the reverberations for unionists here,who would be forced to distance themselves more from Orangeism.
Only if a Catholic monarch took the throne would the Orangemen be forced to change their views on anything. The PM as the head of government is distinct from the monarchy in their minds, and the unionists have never liked nor trusted any British government ever since Stormont 1.0 was scrapped.