Just got word through that our Stephen's Day charity match, which we have been playing every year for 30 years, has been cancelled on direction from Croke Park. Not insured apparently. Who the hell do they think they are? Another example of the GAA being completely out of touch with the normal world. Not impressed at all.
Quote from: laceer on December 24, 2016, 12:55:46 PM
Just got word through that our Stephen's Day charity match, which we have been playing every year for 30 years, has been cancelled on direction from Croke Park. Not insured apparently. Who the hell do they think they are? Another example of the GAA being completely out of touch with the normal world. Not impressed at all.
They can't prevent you going ahead with the games. They just won't be covered insurance wise. 99.9% of the time that won't be an issue.
Quote from: laceer on December 24, 2016, 12:55:46 PM
Just got word through that our Stephen's Day charity match, which we have been playing every year for 30 years, has been cancelled on direction from Croke Park. Not insured apparently. Who the hell do they think they are? Another example of the GAA being completely out of touch with the normal world. Not impressed at all.
How brainless is that?
That game kickstarted many a good Stephen's Day over the years.
Brainless is right. They're turning into a soulless, corporate shower.
Festive cheer my hole.
Are these games on GAA property or some public park or field?
If the time are on GAA property......
Seems a reasonable enough stance by the GAA to me
QuoteParticipants in charity or fun games such as Married v Singles and Past v Present players have been warned that they will not be covered by the GAA Injury Fund in the event of them incurring an injury.
In a memo issued to clubs via their county boards this week, the GAA has pointed out that Player Injury Fund cover is provided only in respect of official fixtures involving teams that have been registered with the Injury Fund.
It adds that participants in charity or fun games – which are popular at this time of year – take part at their own risk and clubs organising such events need to ensure that they have advised all participants that they are not covered by the GAA Injury Fund in the event of accidental bodily injury.
Should go ahead as long as the clubs indemnify the GAA as a whole of any risk if a player breaks a leg and is out of work for an extended period.
Who's to say it isn't a training session for the coming season??! corporate GAA are gobshites to bother sending this out.
Quote from: Boycey on December 24, 2016, 05:41:15 PM
Seems a reasonable enough stance by the GAA to me
QuoteParticipants in charity or fun games such as Married v Singles and Past v Present players have been warned that they will not be covered by the GAA Injury Fund in the event of them incurring an injury.
In a memo issued to clubs via their county boards this week, the GAA has pointed out that Player Injury Fund cover is provided only in respect of official fixtures involving teams that have been registered with the Injury Fund.
It adds that participants in charity or fun games – which are popular at this time of year – take part at their own risk and clubs organising such events need to ensure that they have advised all participants that they are not covered by the GAA Injury Fund in the event of accidental bodily injury.
Yup. Nowhere in there does it say the matches have to be cancelled. This thread is an example of sensationalist headline writing that doesn't reflect what has actually happened.
Indeed. "They" are out to get us etc etc
Quote from: laceer on December 24, 2016, 12:55:46 PM
Just got word through that our Stephen's Day charity match, which we have been playing every year for 30 years, has been cancelled on direction from Croke Park. Not insured apparently. Who the hell do they think they are? Another example of the GAA being completely out of touch with the normal world. Not impressed at all.
Surprised your're only hearing about this now? Our club was stopped 2 maybe 3 years ago.
First Masters games
Now charity games
It's grand though, the GPA are getting their €7 million
Everything is today's world is being driven by insurance and fear of being sued.
Are parish league games allowed?
I wonder how much the GAA's insurance costs.
They could probably get more extensive coverage if they shopped around.
The ban on pitch invasions probably has nothing to do with insurance.
Hypocrisy - they have no problems letting the club championship drag way past Stepnens day...
Basically the message is ye can't enjoy yereselves if there's no money in it for us...
Add this to the club players agenda
Does this affect the Ulster minor club championship games?
Quote from: seafoid on December 25, 2016, 08:36:47 AM
I wonder how much the GAA's insurance costs.
They could probably get more extensive coverage if they shopped around.
The ban on pitch invasions probably has nothing to do with insurance.
It's an injury fund, not insurance for players
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on December 25, 2016, 03:51:39 PM
Quote from: seafoid on December 25, 2016, 08:36:47 AM
I wonder how much the GAA's insurance costs.
They could probably get more extensive coverage if they shopped around.
The ban on pitch invasions probably has nothing to do with insurance.
It's an injury fund, not insurance for players
Maybe they could insure it and have the premiums invested to get a decent return say 5% and cover stephens day
Eammonca and Rossfan - my headline may not be worded correctly but I stand over my point. It's the spirit of the thing- send a note out 2 days before Christmas with the sole intention of stopping people playing a game of football. That's not right.
Quote from: hardstation on December 25, 2016, 11:36:25 AM
Yeah, they're very choosy when it comes to insurance cover.
The Kellogs Cul Camp thing is the biggest joke.
What s that
Quote from: laceer on December 26, 2016, 05:56:55 AM
Eammonca and Rossfan - my headline may not be worded correctly but I stand over my point. It's the spirit of the thing- send a note out 2 days before Christmas with the sole intention of stopping people playing a game of football. That's not right.
With the sole intention of advising them they are not covered. If you play a soccer game are you covered.
Quote from: hardstation on December 26, 2016, 10:42:16 AM
Quote from: rrhf on December 26, 2016, 06:44:23 AM
Quote from: hardstation on December 25, 2016, 11:36:25 AM
Yeah, they're very choosy when it comes to insurance cover.
The Kellogs Cul Camp thing is the biggest joke.
What s that
The GAA will not cover clubs for running summer schemes etc unless your club runs a Kellogs Cul Camp in the same year. A feckin racket.
Kellogg's cul camps are the same as our summer camps. Not sure when the gaa started them but we have been running ours since the 90s.
Quote from: hardstation on December 26, 2016, 11:08:39 AM
Quote from: redzone on December 26, 2016, 10:52:37 AM
Quote from: hardstation on December 26, 2016, 10:42:16 AM
Quote from: rrhf on December 26, 2016, 06:44:23 AM
Quote from: hardstation on December 25, 2016, 11:36:25 AM
Yeah, they're very choosy when it comes to insurance cover.
The Kellogs Cul Camp thing is the biggest joke.
What s that
The GAA will not cover clubs for running summer schemes etc unless your club runs a Kellogs Cul Camp in the same year. A feckin racket.
Kellogg's cul camps are the same as our summer camps. Not sure when the gaa started them but we have been running ours since the 90s.
Our club has run one since the 80s. We now have to run a Kellogs Cul Camp in order to run the club one.
Have some imagination HS. You haven't got a club summer camp - it's just that all of your underage teams are training every day for a week...
Quote from: laceer on December 26, 2016, 05:56:55 AM
Eammonca and Rossfan - my headline may not be worded correctly but I stand over my point. It's the spirit of the thing- send a note out 2 days before Christmas with the sole intention of stopping people playing a game of football. That's not right.
Tbf
Is it not the insurance company who are calling the shots
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on December 24, 2016, 05:42:30 PM
Should go ahead as long as the clubs indemnify the GAA as a whole of any risk if a player breaks a leg and is out of work for an extended period.
Could go ahead but the organisers would be liable as it would be a private event.
Quote from: rrhf on December 27, 2016, 08:59:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 26, 2016, 10:42:16 AM
Quote from: rrhf on December 26, 2016, 06:44:23 AM
Quote from: hardstation on December 25, 2016, 11:36:25 AM
Yeah, they're very choosy when it comes to insurance cover.
The Kellogs Cul Camp thing is the biggest joke.
What s that
The GAA will not cover clubs for running summer schemes etc unless your club runs a Kellogs Cul Camp in the same year. A feckin racket.
That is a racket alright. Who are the directors of cul camps and how much do they earn?
Sponsors call the shots now
Everything has to be run past them
Still don't get the reasoning for the insurance withdrawal on summer schemes conditional to their participation in local cul camp. Assume that the GAA own cul camps!
The cul camp one is a joke. We could easily get a load of our own club t-shirts and school bags and get the children to pay for those instead of the cul camp money. At least they would be wearing our own gear around the parish. Could we run the cul camp at Easter? or does it have to be during the summer?
Quote from: JimStynes on December 28, 2016, 01:09:59 PM
The cul camp one is a joke. We could easily get a load of our own club t-shirts and school bags and get the children to pay for those instead of the cul camp money. At least they would be wearing our own gear around the parish. Could we run the cul camp at Easter? or does it have to be during the summer?
You can run a camp anytime you want, we always run two every year both at the start of the summer and then a week or two before they start back school. Armagh ran an official Cul camp as well in between sending down a few county players to justify the extortionate prices they charge the children. (think it is £40 or £50 for the week per child)
Summer is usually the best time to run them as it's usually better weather (i say that lightly) and with parents needing their kids minded for a few hours whilst they run for a latte or work for a few hours they'd do anything to get their heads showered for a few hours.
We refuse to run a Cup camp and just run our own.
We make sure any child who participates is a member of a GAA club.
If not, we stick down their name on our online registration after getting the parent to fill out a membership form.
What sanctions could they possibly throw at us?
Without going off topic any more than it is already, but how bad are the Cul Camps in some of these places?
Granted they're expensive enough, but in fairness to the ones run at our place by Down CB, they're quite good and the kids love them.
Wish our Stephen's Day kick-around was cancelled, was in a heap for days after it.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on January 05, 2017, 10:32:04 AM
Wish our Stephen's Day kick-around was cancelled, was in a heap for days after it.
Was it from the football or the festivities thereafter???