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Title: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 03, 2016, 10:45:08 AM
After taking one Ulster scalp time to move up and take another.

100% record in Clones in the championship against Monaghan. Great win back in 2004 (ish) when it went to extra time.

Longford hammered Meath in a challenge game the other evening so that bodes well.

See ye Farney boys in Clones next Saturday.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 7pm
Post by: T Fearon on July 03, 2016, 12:34:12 PM
More chance of Longford Town winning the Champions League!
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 7pm
Post by: Rossfan on July 03, 2016, 12:37:11 PM
Some craic if Longford won ;D
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 7pm
Post by: From the Bunker on July 03, 2016, 12:48:46 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on July 03, 2016, 12:34:12 PM
More chance of Longford Town winning the Champions League!

So Longford Town are 5/1 chance of winning the Champions league?
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 7pm
Post by: Schkite on July 03, 2016, 01:10:04 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 03, 2016, 10:45:08 AM
After taking one Ulster scalp time to move up and take another.

100% record in Clones in the championship against Monaghan. Great win back in 2004 (ish) when it went to extra time.

Longford hammered Meath in a challenge game the other evening so that bodes well.

See ye Farney boys in Clones next Saturday.

Big Sheridan gave us a rough time that day.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 7pm
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 03, 2016, 02:30:26 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on July 03, 2016, 12:34:12 PM
More chance of Longford Town winning the Champions League!

Perhaps Tony - but at least we still are in it!

True Schtike. Big Niall troubled many a defence back in the day. Nothing like him has been seen in Inter County football since!
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 7pm
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 03, 2016, 06:04:00 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 03, 2016, 12:37:11 PM
Some craic if Longford won ;D
Wouldn't rule Longford out with their good qualifier record but I suppose it all depends if Monaghan have fully recovered from last nights narrow defeat.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 7pm
Post by: babarino on July 03, 2016, 11:39:43 PM
Good opening salvo from Shamrock Shore. Like Longford's attitude. Looking forward to Saturday's game.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 7pm
Post by: Unlaoised on July 04, 2016, 02:30:23 PM
I think this will be closer than people think...

Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 7pm
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 04, 2016, 03:02:50 PM
Just as a reminder here is the bauld Niall doing a bit of Dub worrying:

(http://www.sportsfile.com/winshare/w540/Library/SF143/147124.jpg)

All we can do is give a good account of ourselves. The bookies will righly have Monaghan as red hot favourites but stranger things have happened.

Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 7pm
Post by: seafoid on July 04, 2016, 06:09:43 PM
Lovely to see a Longford thread in July
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 7pm
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 05, 2016, 02:26:38 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 04, 2016, 06:09:43 PM
Lovely to see a Longford thread in July

Oh to see one in August  ;D
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: timmyot501 on July 05, 2016, 02:30:02 PM
Looked online for tickets. Only unreserved seating available at 20 Euro per ticket. Is the hill not opened?
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on July 06, 2016, 11:24:36 AM
Quote from: timmyot501 on July 05, 2016, 02:30:02 PM
Looked online for tickets. Only unreserved seating available at 20 Euro per ticket. Is the hill not opened?

I would be extremely surprised if the hill (or any area) wasn't.. Perhaps the it's pay at the gate only.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Boycey on July 06, 2016, 02:07:49 PM
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on July 06, 2016, 11:24:36 AM
Quote from: timmyot501 on July 05, 2016, 02:30:02 PM
Looked online for tickets. Only unreserved seating available at 20 Euro per ticket. Is the hill not opened?

I would be extremely surprised if the hill (or any area) wasn't.. Perhaps the it's pay at the gate only.

What would the expected attendance be? 5/6k max? The terracing wasn't open for any of Monaghans league games as far as I recall so wouldn't surprise me if it was seated areas only. Hope not though...
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Unlaoised on July 06, 2016, 04:44:08 PM
Longford have some record in the qualifiers they beat Down in 2002 in a shock ...hammered Monaghan in 2004 in a shock got to round 4 in 2006 beating Derry and offaly on the way...Before giving kerry a game in fitzgerald stadium

Kerry only beat them with a last min goal in round 3 in 2009

Beat Mayo in 2010 ...

Hammered Cavan in 2011 in breffini before loosing narrowly to Tyrone

Hammered Derry in 2012

Beat Derry again in 2014

Beat Clare away in 2015   

for a county that nearly looses its first game in Leinster every year they have some impressive results....

I predict an upset.....
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on July 07, 2016, 09:26:29 AM
Quote from: Unlaoised on July 06, 2016, 04:44:08 PM
Longford have some record in the qualifiers they beat Down in 2002 in a shock ...hammered Monaghan in 2004 in a shock got to round 4 in 2006 beating Derry and offaly on the way...Before giving kerry a game in fitzgerald stadium

Kerry only beat them with a last min goal in round 3 in 2009

Beat Mayo in 2010 ...

Hammered Cavan in 2011 in breffini before loosing narrowly to Tyrone

Hammered Derry in 2012

Beat Derry again in 2014

Beat Clare away in 2015   

for a county that nearly looses its first game in Leinster every year they have some impressive results....

I predict an upset.....

Hmmm.. most Monaghan folk will tell you that Monaghan have started slowly in both league and championship games so far this year. If they do that again they could be in trouble, as trying to recover a 4/5 point margin is not easy.. If however, they show the form the are capable of, Longford will do well to stick with them..

I predict a Monaghan win.....
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: imtommygunn on July 07, 2016, 09:42:53 AM
On paper Monaghan should win by 5 - 10 points. They are a decent side and merit being in division 1.(though are just about top 8) Down have their inner struggles and they would probably tell you themselves they didn't deserve to be. Down on this years form are a division 3 side hence why Longford beat them.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Aristo 60 on July 07, 2016, 09:54:55 AM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 03, 2016, 10:45:08 AM
After taking one Ulster scalp time to move up and take another.

100% record in Clones in the championship against Monaghan. Great win back in 2004 (ish) when it went to extra time.

Longford hammered Meath in a challenge game the other evening so that bodes well.

See ye Farney boys in Clones next Saturday.

Ye didn't scalp us. Ye were merely the gust that removed our wig.

Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: barking mad on July 07, 2016, 04:19:34 PM
Monaghan by 6 to 9 points
They are a professional bunch who 6 day turns around won't effect in the slightest.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: J70 on July 07, 2016, 04:21:40 PM
Monaghan should win this handily if they're up for it.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 08, 2016, 10:16:29 AM
If ever Longford GAA need a spindocter I think even I couldn't surpass what Unlaoised did there.

Some liberal usage of the terms "hammered" and "losing narrowly"

Well done for not mentioning dark times in the AIQs like being savaged last year by an awful Kildare side (look what Kerry did to them) and Tipp the previous year when our cunning 1-14-0 formation kinda backfired.

It's usually feast or famine for Longford. And none of us are too fat on the feasting.

TBH if we beat Monaghan it will be an astonishing win.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Schkite on July 08, 2016, 03:12:08 PM
With respect to Longford, I'd be extremely disappointed if we didn't win this one. Quick turnaround, but I don't think the heads will be down as much as they would have been at this stage a few years.

Most of of those players have a couple of Ulster medals, and while the goal was of course to retain it, another focus was to be playing football into August again and start winning in Croke Park. Despite the tough side of the draw we still have that opportunity, and we should get back to winning ways here.

With the quick turnaround this game is a chance to make a couple of changes and freshen the team up a bit. I'd give starts to Boyle, McCarthy and McCarron. And if he's fit again I'd like to see McGinn at some point, but I've a notion he's still out.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: timmyot501 on July 09, 2016, 08:32:54 AM
Mcginn named on the bench. Think its danial mckenna who misses out on the 26.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on July 09, 2016, 10:34:20 AM
Quote from: timmyot501 on July 09, 2016, 08:32:54 AM
Mcginn named on the bench. Think its danial mckenna who misses out on the 26.

Through injury, according to HS: http://www.hoganstand.com/monaghan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=257831 (http://www.hoganstand.com/monaghan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=257831)

They have the players, both on the pitch and on the bench. It's an improvement in form we need in my opinion. I can't see Longford coming at them like Donegal did so I'd be confident our defence will hold strong. Donegal worryingly opened them up a few times (in both games) and it is this area I would like to see most improved if we have any ambitions of going anywhere. We could sell scoring forwards on eBay, they just need the ball..

It's that simple..  :o

Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Schkite on July 09, 2016, 10:38:04 AM
Good to hear McGinn is in the squad, hopefully he'll see 15-20 minutes anyway.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 09, 2016, 11:49:46 AM
Irish Times describes today's game as "shooting practice" for Monaghan.

Dems fighting words  >:(
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Jinxy on July 09, 2016, 12:47:17 PM
There's only one answer for that.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Qwerty28 on July 09, 2016, 12:59:16 PM
Anyone have a spare copy of the programme from the 2004 in Clones available let me know!
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Main Street on July 09, 2016, 01:01:58 PM
Perhaps playing the game on a cold wet windy evening in hostile Longford might not have suited our pampered lads, but Clones as a venue will keep things civilized.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Jinxy on July 09, 2016, 01:30:12 PM
Longford isn't that hostile.
I've driven through it at speed plenty of times.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 09, 2016, 03:31:19 PM
Jazes lad!

Quote from: Main Street on July 09, 2016, 01:01:58 PM
Perhaps playing the game on a cold wet windy evening in hostile Longford might not have suited our pampered lads, but Clones as a venue will keep things civilized.

It's not Iraq ye'd be playing in if the balls came out differently.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Schkite on July 09, 2016, 06:23:09 PM
Several changes to the named team.

Boyle, McAdam, Malone, Kerr, McCarron in.
R Wylie, K Hughes, Duffy x 2, Carey out.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 09, 2016, 06:45:34 PM
Longford 1-03
Monaghan 0-02
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 09, 2016, 06:47:34 PM
Ref riding us FFS  >:(
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 09, 2016, 06:47:54 PM
Longford 1-04
Monaghan 0-02
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Jinxy on July 09, 2016, 06:50:55 PM
C'mon Longford, do it for the province.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: sammymaguire on July 09, 2016, 06:53:54 PM
On telly?
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 09, 2016, 06:56:27 PM
Big wind advantage for Longford in this 1st half I presume?
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 09, 2016, 07:12:19 PM
Monaghan three ahead with the wind at their backs second half.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 09, 2016, 07:19:10 PM
Wind is all over the shop!
Ref is an out-and-out hoor. Brannigan from Down.

Down.

Go figure
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Schkite on July 09, 2016, 07:21:30 PM
Half time, Monaghan 1-9 Longford 1-6.

Harsh on Longford who have been the better team so far. Longford had us rattled early on, but when we hit the purple patch we made it count. McCarthy and McCarron making a good impact up front. We still need to up the performance though because Longford have the wind second half.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: omagh_gael on July 09, 2016, 07:35:23 PM
1-10 apiece now
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 09, 2016, 07:47:09 PM
Longford two in front a shock on the cards?
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: imtommygunn on July 09, 2016, 07:49:46 PM
I know longford beat momaghan before but this would be a major shock. It would be a massive result for longford.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Syferus on July 09, 2016, 07:51:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 09, 2016, 07:49:46 PM
I know longford beat momaghan before but this would be a major shock. It would be a massive result for longford.

It's in the blood in Longford. They've done this multiple times even in the last five or six years.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: omagh_gael on July 09, 2016, 07:53:22 PM
Holy feck, goal for Longford!!! They're up by 4!!
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: imtommygunn on July 09, 2016, 07:54:28 PM
Yeah but monaghan are strong now. This would be miles above any of their other wins. Anyway not sure they'll hold on.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: macdanger2 on July 09, 2016, 07:55:08 PM
What's left?
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: omagh_gael on July 09, 2016, 07:55:50 PM
Bout 6 mins left. McManus misses easy free, sounds like Longford have it!
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 09, 2016, 07:56:41 PM
I said on page one of this thread not to write Longford off with their qualifier record.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 09, 2016, 08:01:53 PM
This is a dreadful result for Monaghan. Their record outside of Ulster under O'Rourke is really poor.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Main Street on July 09, 2016, 08:05:50 PM
That sounded like a thoroughly deserved win on all levels for Longford, well done.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: joemamas on July 09, 2016, 08:06:30 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 09, 2016, 08:01:53 PM
This is a dreadful result for Monaghan. Their record outside of Ulster under O'Rourke is really poor.
unreal
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 09, 2016, 08:07:45 PM
How good are Donegal, who laboured to beat Monaghan at the second attempt? ;)
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: imtommygunn on July 09, 2016, 08:08:41 PM
Serious result for longford. That is a far better result than any previous ones.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Throw ball on July 09, 2016, 08:09:03 PM
Teams really are vulnerable with the 6/7 day turn around. Well done Longforrd in taking their chance.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 09, 2016, 08:09:13 PM
I'm crying on the pitch
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: omagh_gael on July 09, 2016, 08:09:46 PM
That is a horrendous result for Monaghan, will set them back massively. Can O'Rourke stay after that? 14 wides in total.

Nudie Hughes just described this as the greatest shock of the century. Call the passion there, Nudie.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 7pm
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 09, 2016, 08:10:13 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on July 03, 2016, 12:34:12 PM
More chance of Longford Town winning the Champions League!
Tony jinxed Monaghan. Well done to Longford probably their best ever qualifier win.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: heffo on July 09, 2016, 08:10:30 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 09, 2016, 08:09:13 PM
I'm crying on the pitch

Brilliant result Longford, well done!
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: omagh_gael on July 09, 2016, 08:11:10 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 09, 2016, 08:09:13 PM
I'm crying on the pitch

Fair play to you, great result. Now go and drown your Shamrock up in one of those mighty pubs in the town!
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: macdanger2 on July 09, 2016, 08:11:33 PM
Savage result, well done Longford
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: T Fearon on July 09, 2016, 08:12:18 PM
Yes indeed.I didn't give Longford a chance against Monaghan but fair play to them,if only other teams could throw off the shackles and show more self belief against so called superior opposition.

Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Jinxy on July 09, 2016, 08:13:35 PM
Longford are like a speedboat full of somali pirates cruising around the qualifiers ocean looking for super-tankers to hijack.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: StephenC on July 09, 2016, 08:14:08 PM
Great stuff from Longford. Hard on Monaghan with the short turnaround.

Aiden O'Shea will be happy with this result.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: T Fearon on July 09, 2016, 08:14:57 PM
They have been described on Twitter as the Iceland of this year's Football Championship!
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 7pm
Post by: Rossfan on July 09, 2016, 08:15:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 03, 2016, 12:37:11 PM
Some craic if Longford won ;D

Well done bucks
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 09, 2016, 08:16:28 PM
Why has Mone been on the bench in the Championship all year?

He's surely still one of their best players.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 09, 2016, 08:16:52 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 09, 2016, 08:09:13 PM
I'm crying on the pitch

Congrats SS, enjoy! :)
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Qwerty28 on July 09, 2016, 08:19:09 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 09, 2016, 08:09:13 PM
I'm crying on the pitch

Raging not to be there with you SS, over th emon with result...HON LONGFORD!!!!   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: J70 on July 09, 2016, 08:20:25 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 09, 2016, 08:07:45 PM
How good are Donegal, who laboured to beat Monaghan at the second attempt? ;)

I'm afraid we've been exposed. :-[

Ulster final is Tyrone's to lose. ;D

Fair fucks to Longford. Outstanding win! 8)
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: joemamas on July 09, 2016, 08:20:51 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 09, 2016, 08:09:13 PM
I'm crying on the pitch

Congrats and enjoy

Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: SouthDublinBro on July 09, 2016, 08:24:00 PM
So much for Ulster being the toughest province.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: armaghniac on July 09, 2016, 08:26:06 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on July 09, 2016, 08:24:00 PM
So much for Ulster being the toughest province.

The evenly matched nature of the Ulster semi which led to a draw explains a lot about today's result.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 09, 2016, 08:29:39 PM
Big surprise, not sure why Monaghan changed their team before kick off, Longford a bad habit of catching Ulster Teams, Derry and Down previous, Massive turn around from the 28pt mauling from the Dubs last year, For Monaghan to be beat at home with the team they have bound to be unacceptable to them!!
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: J70 on July 09, 2016, 08:30:55 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on July 09, 2016, 08:24:00 PM
So much for Ulster being the toughest province.

So Dublin, the unanimously acknowledged best team in Ireland, could never get caught out on the day?
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: barking mad on July 09, 2016, 08:42:40 PM
Longford looking to join Ulster  :-*
Cavan didn't exactly set world alight either.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Maroon Manc on July 09, 2016, 08:49:42 PM
Some win although if I did think if there was one shock this weekend it would be here. The 6/7 day turnaround is under estimated and its even worse when you consider Monaghan have played the previous 2 weekends and the camp were probably on a low ebb after defeat last Saturday.

Longford have now beaten two Div 1 sides in this years championship, its some going.

Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: twohands!!! on July 09, 2016, 08:56:45 PM
Worth remembering that Offaly (who went out today) beat Longford by 9 points in Longford's first game of the championship.  :o

6 day turnaround a factor for sure - Dublin and Cavan are the only 2 teams to overcome it in the qualifiers.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: T Fearon on July 09, 2016, 09:03:50 PM
Monaghan should have had enough mental resolve at this stage to overcome Longford after a six day turnaround.Ulster football is dire currently.Donegal running on empty and Tyrone very overated.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: From the Bunker on July 09, 2016, 09:13:51 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 09, 2016, 08:49:42 PM
Some win although if I did think if there was one shock this weekend it would be here. The 6/7 day turnaround is under estimated and its even worse when you consider Monaghan have played the previous 2 weekends and the camp were probably on a low ebb after defeat last Saturday.

Longford have now beaten two Div 1 sides in this years championship, its some going.

Not to take from Longfords victory - The week turnaround is a joke. If you are really stuck for time to play games, do away with replays! But the coffers have to be filled!

Well done Longford! 
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 09, 2016, 09:19:52 PM
The championship could be started alot earlier to give proper time for the qualfiers
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: From the Bunker on July 09, 2016, 09:34:58 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 09, 2016, 09:19:52 PM
The championship could be started alot earlier to give proper time for the qualfiers

Ah, you're back to the age old argument of teams being out of the championship in May/Early June!
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Mourne Rover on July 09, 2016, 09:37:14 PM
Congratulations to Longford, who previously displayed at Newry against an admittedly struggling Down that they are a capable and well organised side. Monaghan obviously had seven days to recover from their championship defeat and could not manage it. Cavan only had six days, although they would have been expected to beat Carlow at home anyway. Dublin won a qualifier in 2001 seven days after losing a Leinster decider. The only county to have achieved a qualifier success six days after losing a provincial final seems to have been Down against Tipperary in 2012.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Syferus on July 09, 2016, 09:37:21 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2016, 09:13:51 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 09, 2016, 08:49:42 PM
Some win although if I did think if there was one shock this weekend it would be here. The 6/7 day turnaround is under estimated and its even worse when you consider Monaghan have played the previous 2 weekends and the camp were probably on a low ebb after defeat last Saturday.

Longford have now beaten two Div 1 sides in this years championship, its some going.

Not to take from Longfords victory - The week turnaround is a joke. If you are really stuck for time to play games, do away with replays! But the coffers have to be filled!

Well done Longford!

Playing two weekends in a row isn't a big deal. Particularly when what you've lost isn't even a final. Too many teams are incredibly mentally soft and easily discouraged. Longford have shown up many of their 'betters' in that regards over the years.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: macdanger2 on July 09, 2016, 09:40:13 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2016, 09:13:51 PM

Not to take from Longfords victory - The week turnaround is a joke. If you are really stuck for time to play games, do away with replays! But the coffers have to be filled!

Well done Longford!

Tbf, doing away with extra time was proposed and defeated at congress so counties / clubs only have themselves to blame
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: T Fearon on July 09, 2016, 09:57:58 PM
Monaghan should have been well aware of Longford's reputation.There seems to be a mental weakness in the team or maybe Banty is right when he says without Mc Manus they'd be a Division 3 team.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: rrhf on July 09, 2016, 10:03:58 PM
Longford are single handedly uniting Ireland.  They see Ulster teams as beatable and unfrightening as any of the other soft 23 in the buttermilk provinces.  No fear and fair play.  The Larries are back...
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: seafoid on July 09, 2016, 10:16:55 PM
Delighted for Billys and Shamrock. Ye must be over the moon
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Sandy Hill on July 09, 2016, 10:40:38 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 09, 2016, 09:37:21 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 09, 2016, 09:13:51 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 09, 2016, 08:49:42 PM
Some win although if I did think if there was one shock this weekend it would be here. The 6/7 day turnaround is under estimated and its even worse when you consider Monaghan have played the previous 2 weekends and the camp were probably on a low ebb after defeat last Saturday.

Longford have now beaten two Div 1 sides in this years championship, its some going.

Not to take from Longfords victory - The week turnaround is a joke. If you are really stuck for time to play games, do away with replays! But the coffers have to be filled!

Well done Longford!

Playing two weekends in a row isn't a big deal. Particularly when what you've lost isn't even a final. Too many teams are incredibly mentally soft and easily discouraged. Longford have shown up many of their 'betters' in that regards over the years.

Snowflake Generation?
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: OgraAnDun on July 09, 2016, 10:41:55 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 09, 2016, 08:56:45 PM
Worth remembering that Offaly (who went out today) beat Longford by 9 points in Longford's first game of the championship.  :o

6 day turnaround a factor for sure - Dublin and Cavan are the only 2 teams to overcome it in the qualifiers.


Down did it in 2012. Dublin's was a seven day turnaround.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on July 09, 2016, 10:58:20 PM
Fair play to the Larries, that is just a savage result. 
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 09, 2016, 11:13:43 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 09, 2016, 08:56:45 PM
Worth remembering that Offaly (who went out today) beat Longford by 9 points in Longford's first game of the championship.  :o

6 day turnaround a factor for sure - Dublin and Cavan are the only 2 teams to overcome it in the qualifiers.

Kildare the qualifier Kings have done it as well.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: J70 on July 09, 2016, 11:43:08 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on July 09, 2016, 10:41:55 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 09, 2016, 08:56:45 PM
Worth remembering that Offaly (who went out today) beat Longford by 9 points in Longford's first game of the championship.  :o

6 day turnaround a factor for sure - Dublin and Cavan are the only 2 teams to overcome it in the qualifiers.


Down did it in 2012. Dublin's was a seven day turnaround.

Donegal did it in 2013 against Laois.

Can't remember what the story with the Galway game was last year.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 09, 2016, 11:46:39 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 09, 2016, 08:13:35 PM
Longford are like a speedboat full of somali pirates cruising around the qualifiers ocean looking for super-tankers to hijack.

Now that's brilliant Jinxy. Thanks for all the other good wishes from all of ye.

Not long home. Bonfires burning in Blackrock. Now that's either for our marvellous victory or else 12th July is happening early in So Co Du.

What an occasion. A good start is always welcome and we got that. And then we just kept going. Lost shape at the end of the 1st half which could have been fatal but came out in the second haf with two quick points. Diarmuid 'The Bull' Masterson is some player. And he has cut out his usual 'yellow card in first half' habit which is great.

Monaghan looked shell shocked. Some of their wides in the second half were unforgivable. Did the Monaghan management under estimate Longford? They had to have had with the changes at the beginning.

But hey ho and awayyyyyyyyyyy we go.

Looking forward now to Longford Town winning the Champions League - eh Tony!

And I will stand over my earlier comment about the ref in the first half. He was fairer in the second though.

Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Ohtoohtobe on July 10, 2016, 02:49:19 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 09, 2016, 08:56:45 PM
Worth remembering that Offaly (who went out today) beat Longford by 9 points in Longford's first game of the championship.  :o

6 day turnaround a factor for sure - Dublin and Cavan are the only 2 teams to overcome it in the qualifiers.

Kildare did it last year.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: seafoid on July 10, 2016, 07:01:37 AM
Jer the rigger is at 8.38.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-KewvkR3SM
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: seafoid on July 10, 2016, 07:15:09 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 09, 2016, 08:07:45 PM
How good are Donegal, who laboured to beat Monaghan at the second attempt? ;)
how good are Throne who couldn't beat Cavan oat the first attempt ? Is Ulster football a Wonderbra?  :o 
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: timmyot501 on July 10, 2016, 08:04:14 AM
Fair play to longford. Some super scores today and fully deserved their win. I suppose today ended up a case of less wides win games. Longford miss very little all day from all distances and all angles. Monaghan missed scorable frees and even some simple enough attempts from play.
I think most of the changes by monaghan were justifiable enough. Most of those who came in against donegal did enough to get a start and most those dropped played poorly the week before. Too many players though ran out of steam after the break and too many others just ran into trouble.
Good luck to longford in the draw tomorrow and next weekend
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: snoopdog on July 10, 2016, 08:35:17 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 10, 2016, 07:15:09 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 09, 2016, 08:07:45 PM
How good are Donegal, who laboured to beat Monaghan at the second attempt? ;)
how good are Throne who couldn't beat Cavan oat the first attempt ? Is Ulster football a Wonderbra?  :o
Hard to know about Tyrone they look good going fwd but defence is a worry for them. Prob opposite of last year when they were poor upfront.
Take nothing away from longford I'm sure they thoroughly deserved the win yesterday. I saw them in Newry against Down and they are very good in front of the posts with a few quality players obviously Brian kavanagh and quintessential the obvious ones. They missed very little that day so good luck to them.
Monaghan though serious questions need to be asked. I don't accept the playing 3 weeks in a row excuse unless they are being over trained in that time. They will be very disappointed.
Ulster is what it is, tough to win but I don't think there are any all ireland winners in it although Tyrone could make the final if they win ulster as draw Prob suits them.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Main Street on July 10, 2016, 08:16:06 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 09, 2016, 11:46:39 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 09, 2016, 08:13:35 PM
Longford are like a speedboat full of somali pirates cruising around the qualifiers ocean looking for super-tankers to hijack.

Now that's brilliant Jinxy. Thanks for all the other good wishes from all of ye.

Not long home. Bonfires burning in Blackrock. Now that's either for our marvellous victory or else 12th July is happening early in So Co Du.

What an occasion. A good start is always welcome and we got that. And then we just kept going. Lost shape at the end of the 1st half which could have been fatal but came out in the second haf with two quick points. Diarmuid 'The Bull' Masterson is some player. And he has cut out his usual 'yellow card in first half' habit which is great.

Monaghan looked shell shocked. Some of their wides in the second half were unforgivable. Did the Monaghan management under estimate Longford? They had to have had with the changes at the beginning.

But hey ho and awayyyyyyyyyyy we go.

Looking forward now to Longford Town winning the Champions League - eh Tony!

And I will stand over my earlier comment about the ref in the first half. He was fairer in the second though.
The simple answer is probably that Longford were much the better team on the day and won with space to spare. When one team goes up the field and scores, hit some wonder points  and score goals, they will usually beat a team who are wasteful. I doubt that had  much to do over confidence. The changes to the starting team were 'organic' and there were plenty of experienced heads on the Monaghan side who should have managed the 2nd half response a lot better.
There was a bit of unintended humour in the half time chat on the Shannonside/Northern Sound joint coverage, when the Shannonside  co-commentator said that 'Longford were like a fox caught in the  headlights'.

Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Jinxy on July 10, 2016, 11:54:10 PM
God, Longford kicked some monster points.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: moysider on July 11, 2016, 12:11:30 AM

Monaghan looked completely flat from those highlights. Drained. Monaghan are best when they are contrary and confrontational and play with high intensity. They seemed to have the fight bet out of them by the Donegal loss. Monaghan not the first team to get caught out like that. The difference between top teams and others shrinks if the higher ranked team goes out feeling a bit sorry for themselves. Longford have put teams out of their misery before. They love their football in Longford fair play to them.
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Billys Boots on July 11, 2016, 09:42:10 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 09, 2016, 10:16:55 PM
Delighted for Billys and Shamrock. Ye must be over the moon

Yerra, it's only Monaghan ffs. 
Title: Re: Monaghan v Longford - AIQ Round 2B - Clones 9 July at 6.30 pm
Post by: Unlaoised on July 13, 2016, 03:56:23 PM
Quote from: Unlaoised on July 06, 2016, 04:44:08 PM
Longford have some record in the qualifiers they beat Down in 2002 in a shock ...hammered Monaghan in 2004 in a shock got to round 4 in 2006 beating Derry and offaly on the way...Before giving kerry a game in fitzgerald stadium

Kerry only beat them with a last min goal in round 3 in 2009

Beat Mayo in 2010 ...

Hammered Cavan in 2011 in breffini before loosing narrowly to Tyrone

Hammered Derry in 2012

Beat Derry again in 2014

Beat Clare away in 2015   

for a county that nearly looses its first game in Leinster every year they have some impressive results....

I predict an upset.....

maybe people should have listened I made a nice few quid