It's 5.15am. Been in bed since 11.30pm. Can't sleep. I can't never sleep. Have to get up in a couple of hours. Will be wrecked a
Will be a wreck at work today. Any advice for a non sleeper like me?
Over active mind Ziggy. You need to get your brain to stop thinking about serious stuff like GAA so you can doze off. A hot drink or a bit of horizonal jogging with the girlfriend should help.
Quote from: ziggysego on April 23, 2007, 05:11:38 AM
It's 5.15am. Been in bed since 11.30pm. Can't sleep. I can't never sleep. Have to get up in a couple of hours. Will be wrecked a
Does that mean you can sleep?
Watch an Ulster Championship match.
Quote from: Guillem2 on April 23, 2007, 08:11:38 AM
A hot drink or a bit of horizonal jogging with the girlfriend should help.
My efforts at the oul horizontal jogging usually just sends them to sleep
Ziggy,
I think people sleep less in the summer that in the winter. But here are a few of my own tips:
- get black out curtains - bright rooms will wake you up
- avoid the 3pm and 7pm naps. If you start to doze off then go for a walk/wheel. Fresh air will help always tire you
- dont have breakfast at 11pm. Your body is working overtime trying to digest the food, and may keep you awake.
- get a good book and read until you drop off
- take a swig of whiskey (or a baileys) just before bedtime
Cheers
Orior
Allegedly 8) a good old w**k puts you over to sleep, something to do with the hormones released after the load is shot according to some of those distinguished medical journals.
Quote from: 5iveTimes on April 23, 2007, 10:02:01 AM
Quote from: ziggysego on April 23, 2007, 05:13:04 AM
Will be a wreck at work today. Any advice for a non sleeper like me?
You`ll never sleep while you`re on-line.
Was in bed, using my mobile.
Quote from: Orior on April 23, 2007, 10:49:27 AM
Ziggy,
I think people sleep less in the summer that in the winter. But here are a few of my own tips:
- get black out curtains - bright rooms will wake you up
- avoid the 3pm and 7pm naps. If you start to doze off then go for a walk/wheel. Fresh air will help always tire you
- dont have breakfast at 11pm. Your body is working overtime trying to digest the food, and may keep you awake.
- get a good book and read until you drop off
- take a swig of whiskey (or a baileys) just before bedtime
Cheers
Orior
Got to say, that made me laugh. Thanks for the good advice though.
Quote from: johnneycool on April 23, 2007, 10:53:26 AM
Allegedly 8) a good old w**k puts you over to sleep, something to do with the hormones released after the load is shot according to some of those distinguished medical journals.
In the good words of Dr. Rev. Ian Paisley
NEVER NEVER NEVERPS, I was right. I'm a wreck today.
every one of oriors tips are dead on. got to trick the mind tho so have the same routine every night. its no big deal but do the same thing the half hour before you go to sleep. read a book then and only then, 5 or 10 pages and then go to zzzzzzz (you can read the paper during the day but not your book!)....
I know exactly how you feel Ziggy!
There is seriously nothing worse than lying in bed (usually yawning the head of yourself) and watching the clock tick by...6 hours before i've to get up, 5 hours before I've to get up, 4 hours before I've to get up and so on! Going around the next day like a zombie, head to bed early that night, sleep for a hour and at about 2 o'clock the whole process starts again! I seriously spent 30 years of my life like that, night after night after night and NOTHING WORKS!! I could eat a pack of sleeping tablets, no affect on me. You'd thinking reading would be good advise, but you're to tired to read, to tired to do anything! yet you still can't f**king sleep!!!
Ziggy if you're constantly like that and if the common sense things suggested doesn't work Id say go and tell your doc. i went to mine about 6 months ago complaining about something else and a load of blood tests found I was lacking in something, one of the symptoms of it was not being fit to sleep!. Got that sorted and sleeping like a baby since!
Put your phone down.
I find when i cant sleep i think about it more and thus the vicious circle starts, read, pray count points going over the bar, that sort of thing, dont drink tea or coffee after 7 either.
Ziggy, a few suggestions
Keep off your phone
Count sheep (never works as it's dark and you can't see the sheep, and if you count them in your mind it keeps your mind busy so it doesnt really work)
Stop thinking about the gaa board.
I didn't go near my phone from 12.30pm until 5.15am.
Thanks for the advice, some one of them is bound to work. Haven't been sleeping well for years, but recently it has been getting worse.
Quote from: Take Your Points on April 23, 2007, 07:45:02 PM
Ziggy, I have used this guy's earlier programme for sleeplessness and it worked. Both it and the older version can be downloaded from iTunes.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Glenn-Harrolds-Ultimate-Relaxing-Collection/dp/0563510188/ref=pd_bbs_5/202-6958086-2297449?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1177353468&sr=8-5 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Glenn-Harrolds-Ultimate-Relaxing-Collection/dp/0563510188/ref=pd_bbs_5/202-6958086-2297449?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1177353468&sr=8-5)
Thanks TYP. Just asked a mate to download it off iTunes for me.
This lot had an article in the Times a few months ago. They had some sensible ideas about a good nights sleep.
http://www.londonsleepcentre.com/index.htm
Well Ziggy, did any of the tips work last night?
I reckon he took Johnnycool's advice. ;) He still hasn't woke up.
As you can see guys and gals, hasn't done me much good. Looking into downloading that audiobook TYP told me about.
Consider this.....
Turn off the lights
Light a scented candle / light an incense stick
Take off them Greencastle GAA woolly football socks
Off with the PJs
Rip off the Y-fronts too
Start thinking of Debbie McGee / Goat
Start the tug of love
Zzzzzzzzzzz
Still awake. :-(
Jesus Dodo, that could have worked, only you mentioned McGee
I liked that idea of counting points instead of sheep. Didn't work though, as being from Armagh:
70% dropped short into the keepers hands
25% to the left and wide
5% to the right an wide
Was 6am before I dropped off this morning. Ain't worth tuppence today.
the harder you try the worse it will get, have you tried beer?
Quote from: Square Ball on April 25, 2007, 04:46:32 PM
the harder you try the worse it will get, have you tried beer?
No. I think that's a bad route to go down. Needing alcohol to sleep at nights.
Try reading the "shamrock rovers ultras" thread :o
Quote from: his holiness nb on April 25, 2007, 04:53:55 PM
Try reading the "shamrock rovers ultras" thread :o
That's what finally got me off at 6am! ;)
Do you drink much coffee, tea or coke? If I drink coke I'm awake for hours so I wouldn't drink anything with caffeine after about 8pm if I was you and go for a long dander or run in the evening followed by a shower a bit of tv and as someone said read a few chapters of a book. Basically you want to avoid stimulating your body or your brain for the hour or so before you put the lights out.
Having said that "a mate of mine" ;) reckons 8 pints of Guinness and a good hand shandy works wonders!
Quote from: Take Your Points on April 23, 2007, 07:45:02 PM
Ziggy, I have used this guy's earlier programme for sleeplessness and it worked. Both it and the older version can be downloaded from iTunes.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Glenn-Harrolds-Ultimate-Relaxing-Collection/dp/0563510188/ref=pd_bbs_5/202-6958086-2297449?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1177353468&sr=8-5 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Glenn-Harrolds-Ultimate-Relaxing-Collection/dp/0563510188/ref=pd_bbs_5/202-6958086-2297449?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1177353468&sr=8-5)
Still sleeping awful. Just after downloading this on iTunes, so hopefully things will get better now. :)
Stick on a video of the Cork / Sligo game, I fell asleep watching it!
i either run or lift weights on a day,alternate them usually.After the weights, done rright for an hour you will be ready for bed.Do them between 8 and 9 at night, run in the evening or some other thing like indoor soccer, it always do the trick for me a fairly light sleeper.
Alternatively you could get a night job and sleep all day (joke, ha, ha)
Hope you sort it out, nothing worse than being tired.
Know how you feel Ziggy. Get up at seven in the morning head to work for 9 to do some mentally challenging work on a computer then home for 6 take a hour break then back at it to do a few homers, some nights could be up till 3 in morning. Its been a few years now since i was in bed before midnight. Its hard for me to switch the ole brain off, there's that much shit going through it.
I am a terrible sleeper, and usually need to listen to music to fall asleep.
The other solution is slighty desperate but also works - have a child, and anytime you have the chance to lie down, you'll nod off when your head hits the pillow.
Have a child. After a few days you'll sleep like a log every hour or so.
I find that if i listen to the clock ticking it sends me to sleep pretty fast.
But if that doesnt work, get some kleenex and follow JoonyCool's advive!
Ardal is right get a few we'ins around ya and run after them and you'll sleep like a log, and the old "pull the batteries" aff yourself def works too; we can't be all wrong. and i know this board can be addictive but stay of it in the evening's i wouldn't go near it after work
That audiobook nearly worked. It was a hypo thingy to relax you and make you feel confident. I nearly nodded off, then I heard "When I count down from 10 - 1, you will gradually wake and be fully alert at 1"
Buggar! >:(
Lack of sleep is a big problem for me too, but madness as it seems if you give your room a good tidy and its clean etc... its far easier to get to sleep (its even better if you can get the woman to do it) ;D
To get me to sleep some nights, I would listen to the radio at a low volume and put the 'sleep' on for about an hour so it turns itself off. Late at night listen to Downtown radio as its plays slow and chilled out songs late at night, anything like dance or headbanging music will not work!!!
Also, room must be black dark!!!no lights shining through, not even through the space under your bedroom door. get yourself some thick curtains so it seems as if a solar eclispe has just taken place!!!
Mate Downtown radio is piss poor!! although there is that lovers around 11 crap I used to listen to as a young cub, always a brave laugh!!
In fairness I would listen to music before Im nodding off to sleep but recently noticed if you just turn all music off etc... ad black the room out your off to sleep much quicker :)
Ziggy
You should be able to rest a bit easier now instead of worrying whether Tyrone will win Sam this year...
Has any insomniac tried listening to Daniel O'Donnell as means of dropping off to sleep?
Quote from: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on August 06, 2007, 01:59:31 PM
Ziggy
You should be able to rest a bit easier now instead of worrying whether Tyrone will win Sam this year...
Nah, the ladies meet Armagh :-\
Quote from: ziggysego on August 06, 2007, 04:05:54 PM
Quote from: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on August 06, 2007, 01:59:31 PM
Ziggy
You should be able to rest a bit easier now instead of worrying whether Tyrone will win Sam this year...
Nah, the ladies meet Armagh :-\
Didn't know there were ladies in Tyrone ;) :P
Quote from: illdecide on August 06, 2007, 04:16:02 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on August 06, 2007, 04:05:54 PM
Quote from: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on August 06, 2007, 01:59:31 PM
Ziggy
You should be able to rest a bit easier now instead of worrying whether Tyrone will win Sam this year...
Nah, the ladies meet Armagh :-\
Didn't know there were ladies in Tyrone ;) :P
There wasn't until the operation became available free on the Bupa insurance plan ;)
Before you say anything more, one of my neighbours plays for the Tyrone Ladies.
Ziggy
I taught that neighbour of yours. She was a super netball player and won All Irelands in that for the school.
Excellent footballer, just ashamed she's injuried at the moment. Especially with the Sperrin Og Championship game coming up.
Quote from: ziggysego on August 06, 2007, 04:33:02 PM
Before you say anything more, one of my neighbours plays for the Tyrone Ladies.
And a cousin of mine does too :)
A lot of people don't sleep because they've alot of stuff running through their heads, things they need to do etc. Apparently it can help to make a list of things that need to be tackled tomorrow. Knowing it's committed to a list means you relax, knowing you can work through it tomorrow.
Might not help if this is a long-term thing, but worth a try. Think a routine is important too.
Quote from: Take Your Points on August 06, 2007, 08:09:38 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on August 06, 2007, 01:29:56 PM
That audiobook nearly worked. It was a hypo thingy to relax you and make you feel confident. I nearly nodded off, then I heard "When I count down from 10 - 1, you will gradually wake and be fully alert at 1"
Buggar! >:(
Zig, in the audiobook there are two parts, the first is designed to put asleep but as a "bonus" the second half is designed to allow you to take control of your dreams. The book was originally on cassette with each part on separate sides. When it was transferred to mp3 both files were put together with a short space. The second file ends by wakening you up! The only solution is to use a sound editing program to save the book as spearate files, save them onto your mp3 player and then only play the first at night.
Aaaah, I did wonder. I was all sleepy and then was alert again. Dosed off at around 3am +
Quote from: Rois on August 06, 2007, 08:12:11 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on August 06, 2007, 04:33:02 PM
Before you say anything more, one of my neighbours plays for the Tyrone Ladies.
And a cousin of mine does too :)
I think I know who you are referring to ;)
if the second tape is for wakening you up at what stage in the night do you get up to put it on so you can wake up peacefully?
making a list of all the things i've to do tomorrow would stress me out more.
Drink Southern Comfort
As stated above Ziggy, i think you need to get some kind of routine going,
I was joking the last time i asked you but do you not work?
Anytime i go back on holidays, if i don't fight the time difference right off the bat
I end up like yourself the whole time I'm there and i know its jet lag on my part but getting
into a routine def does do the trick.
Get out of her no later than 8am consistently no matter what and you will beat it 8)
Ziggy
And I don't think the Tyrone ladies will keep you from slumbers.
Btw, what time do you last eat at night. I've heard that eating virtually nothing after 6pm could help a good night's sleep.
Quote from: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on August 07, 2007, 08:24:24 AM
Ziggy
And I don't think the Tyrone ladies will keep you from slumbers.
Btw, what time do you last eat at night. I've heard that eating virtually nothing after 6pm could help a good night's sleep.
He wants advice on how to sleep, not a diet plan!!! I dont agree that eating nothing all evening should help you sleep, thats pants. A rumbling hungry stomach would keep me awake quickier than a full stomach!!! Why after a big feed like out at a restaurant or Sunday dinner do you feel so drowsy and feel the need to sleep!!
Quote from: Tyrones own on August 07, 2007, 05:10:23 AM
As stated above Ziggy, i think you need to get some kind of routine going,
I was joking the last time i asked you but do you not work?
Anytime i go back on holidays, if i don't fight the time difference right off the bat
I end up like yourself the whole time I'm there and i know its jet lag on my part but getting
into a routine def does do the trick.
Get out of her no later than 8am consistently no matter what and you will beat it 8)
I do work, but the sleeping is bad. Come the weekends, I sleep in to make the differences up of what I lose during the week.
Quote from: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on August 07, 2007, 08:24:24 AM
Ziggy
And I don't think the Tyrone ladies will keep you from slumbers.
Btw, what time do you last eat at night. I've heard that eating virtually nothing after 6pm could help a good night's sleep.
I very rarely eat after 6pm.
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on August 07, 2007, 03:41:21 PM
He wants advice on how to sleep, not a diet plan!!! I dont agree that eating nothing all evening should help you sleep, thats pants. A rumbling hungry stomach would keep me awake quickier than a full stomach!!! Why after a big feed like out at a restaurant or Sunday dinner do you feel so drowsy and feel the need to sleep!!
Might be something to do with the drink you consume whilst living this epicurean life.
It was just an idea - obviously not a diet plan - but why say breakfast as a king, lunch as a prince, dinner as a pauper - it can't all be 'pants' !
Plus regulated meals, rather than grazing all day, is also a healthier option which might help sleeplessness.
its just too warm to sleep tonight!
Tonight isn't as warm as it was a few nights ago
A few nights ago wasn't as warm as it was a few weeks ago.
:)
Do ye mind a few years ago? ::)
Ziggy did you get the sleeping sorted? Whenever I can't sleep I play a game I made up myself. I take a popular name, eg Seán, and I think of all the Seáns I know. A bit like counting sheep, but works better imo.
I do something similiar. I go through the alphabet, thinking of everyone I know who's name begins with that letter. Works well most nights.
Hey Ziggy,
Is there any possiblity you could change your wee guy on the left, his movements are really annoying
Sure, next time I'm on the computer.
He can pick his own picture, leave it up ziggy!
if you dont eat after 6 not only does it help you sleep, but it helps you loose weight!! this is difficult when training tho as not advisable to eat the spuds before training, so by the time i get my dinner it normally half 9 (probably why i still have a beer fellyard and yet train/play football 6 nights a week!! *shakes head in shame* )
Quote from: kinghen on July 28, 2008, 01:21:36 PM
if you dont eat after 6 not only does it help you sleep, but it helps you loose weight!! this is difficult when training tho as not advisable to eat the spuds before training, so by the time i get my dinner it normally half 9 (probably why i still have a beer fellyard and yet train/play football 6 nights a week!! *shakes head in shame* )
Plus all your late night snacks probably wouldn't help, such as fajitas at one in the morning!
3 burger meals????
thats not mine
thats not mine
thats not mine
im away to bed??
used to have wile bother, there is no secret to gettin a good nites sleep if ur naturally not a good sleeper, these things def do help for me tho
1.dark curtains
2.tidy room
3.readin a book
things that dont work for me
1.a little alcohol, (no bother sleepin wen blocked)
2.music
3.late night feeds
and wen i feel im not goin to get to sleep i just dont worry about it cos i think u can function the best for a couple of days w'out much sleep.
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 28, 2008, 12:01:49 PM
He can pick his own picture, leave it up ziggy!
sorry ziggy ;)
f**k sake, my sleeping trouble is back - for the last 5 nights now I have't got to sleep until after 3am, it was 5am last night!
What a pain in the arse.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 12, 2009, 03:26:51 AM
f**k sake, my sleeping trouble is back - for the last 5 nights now I have't got to sleep until after 3am, it was 5am last night!
What a pain in the arse.
I'd say it has something to do with the routine you're
not in Pints :-\
Quote from: Tyrones own on August 12, 2009, 04:56:58 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 12, 2009, 03:26:51 AM
f**k sake, my sleeping trouble is back - for the last 5 nights now I have't got to sleep until after 3am, it was 5am last night!
What a pain in the arse.
I'd say it has something to do with the routine you're not in Pints :-\
Yeah but I've been still getting up early and all that.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 12, 2009, 05:03:38 AM
Quote from: Tyrones own on August 12, 2009, 04:56:58 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 12, 2009, 03:26:51 AM
f**k sake, my sleeping trouble is back - for the last 5 nights now I have't got to sleep until after 3am, it was 5am last night!
What a pain in the arse.
I'd say it has something to do with the routine you're not in Pints :-\
Yeah but I've been still getting up early and all that.
Mind racing or what POG? Sometimes stress from work can hamper my sleep but nothing ever as bad as that, through alot of work on myself ive learned to quieten the mind, with NLP and Meditation before bed. It works used to have ear buzzing and thats gone a few yrs aswell.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 12, 2009, 03:26:51 AM
f**k sake, my sleeping trouble is back - for the last 5 nights now I have't got to sleep until after 3am, it was 5am last night!
What a pain in the arse.
Just because you can't sleep doesn't mean you should put yourself down.
The best sleep I ever got was when I was revising properly for exams... I would lie in bed and try to remember all the things I have just learnt, repeating formulae etc and then bang, you're asleep!
Start learning a language or something, think I might start doing this, you can download podcasts and stuff to just listen to and repeat.
Quote from: Nailed On on August 12, 2009, 08:34:08 AM
The best sleep I ever got was when I was revising properly for exams... I would lie in bed and try to remember all the things I have just learnt, repeating formulae etc and then bang, you're asleep!
Start learning a language or something, think I might start doing this, you can download podcasts and stuff to just listen to and repeat.
Quote from: Nailed On on August 12, 2009, 08:34:08 AM
The best sleep I ever got was when I was revising properly for exams... I would lie in bed and try to remember all the things I have just learnt, repeating formulae etc and then bang, you're asleep!
Start learning a language or something, think I might start doing this, you can download podcasts and stuff to just listen to and repeat.
Quote from: Nailed On on August 12, 2009, 08:34:08 AM
The best sleep I ever got was when I was revising properly for exams... I would lie in bed and try to remember all the things I have just learnt, repeating formulae etc and then bang, you're asleep!
Start learning a language or something, think I might start doing this, you can download podcasts and stuff to just listen to and repeat.
Quote from: Nailed On on August 12, 2009, 08:34:08 AM
The best sleep I ever got was when I was revising properly for exams... I would lie in bed and try to remember all the things I have just learnt, repeating formulae etc and then bang, you're asleep!
Start learning a language or something, think I might start doing this, you can download podcasts and stuff to just listen to and repeat.
That's the second time you have used that joke in less than 24 hours SLK. Poor form.
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on August 12, 2009, 09:32:37 AM
That's the second time you have used that joke in less than 24 hours SLK. Poor form.
:D
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 12, 2009, 08:05:27 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 12, 2009, 05:03:38 AM
Quote from: Tyrones own on August 12, 2009, 04:56:58 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 12, 2009, 03:26:51 AM
f**k sake, my sleeping trouble is back - for the last 5 nights now I have't got to sleep until after 3am, it was 5am last night!
What a pain in the arse.
I'd say it has something to do with the routine you're not in Pints :-\
Yeah but I've been still getting up early and all that.
Mind racing or what POG? Sometimes stress from work can hamper my sleep but nothing ever as bad as that, through alot of work on myself ive learned to quieten the mind, with NLP and Meditation before bed. It works used to have ear buzzing and thats gone a few yrs aswell.
Yeah though it's stress from lack of work that's my problem, well after 5am before I slept. I'd say I could lie down and sleep for the rest of the day though. It's a f**king nightmare.
The same myself recently, terrible back bad pain keeping me away. Dulled it with beer last night, but don't want to be doing that every night.
Get some blade to come in and dart the life out of you then when the jobs done you'l be asleep in 30seconds
Quote from: JimStynes on August 12, 2009, 02:15:14 PM
Get some blade to come in and dart the life out of you then when the jobs done you'l be asleep in 30seconds
He's sneaking round with his brother's woman.
Can't sleep :(
Have you been to the doctors? I assume you can't sleep because there's a load of stuff going round in your head?
Does something like exercise tire you out or reading? Something like that you could do which would make you so tired your body would just shutdown anyway.
Reading works for me.
Going to a Doctor next Friday. Hopefully I'll be ok after that...
I go out like a light as soon as the head hits the pillow. My problem is sitting up every night to about 1:30am and then trying to get up for work the next morning is a nightmare