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Title: AI Club hurling
Post by: johnneycool on November 10, 2014, 09:45:27 AM
Kilmallock see off Sarsfields of Cork AET to set up a meeting with Cratloe who put Thurles Sarsfields to the sword.

Wasn't overly impressed with the game on TG4 in Kilmallock, thought the ref let an awful lot of the spare arm around the man in possession tackling go which in turn led to overcarrying, and the ruck/maul situation quite a bit.
Sarsfields inability to keep the big lad away from the edge of the square coupled with the keeper coming out and missing the ball completely with a bat when I thought he should have come with the hand cost them a soft goal. Kilmallock then seemed to help them get back in the game by fouling in scoreable positions.
Kilmallock then managed to open a game in the second period of extra time, but their over reliance on Graham Mulcahy could cost them in a few weeks time.

I hear Thurles lost a man right from the throw in, must have been bad, anyone see it?


Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Roashter on November 10, 2014, 11:36:47 AM
Denis Maher had a wild swing alright. It was literally right after about 5 seconds, and there was a big crowd of almost 5,000 there but you could clearly hear the slap of hurley on helmet.
Probably wasn't malicious and the easy option would be to give a yellow, but it happened right in front of the ref and Thurles players didn't protest too much so was probably the correct call.

Apart from Conor McGrath, Cratloe were not overly impressive and really should have won by more considering they had home advantage against 14 men for the 60 minutes. Podge Collins had some great moves but he also tends to overplay the ball at times. Conor Ryan was excellent at centre-back for them. Conor McGrath was outstanding and gave Michael Cahill the run-around.

Denis Maher was a hugle loss to Thurles and they had no hope of winning after he went off. Padraig Maher had a good game without being outstanding, while Lar Corbett looked completely off the pace and didn't really contribute a whole lot.

It's hard to know how good Cratloe really are, but I think that if Conor McGrath can be kept relatively quiet then they will struggle.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: johnneycool on November 24, 2014, 09:15:38 AM
That was some game in Limerick yesterday for a club game.

It ebbed and flowed with one team on top and then the other came back and so on and so forth for the entire 80 minutes.

Cratloe will rue some of those goal chances they fluffed either by one pass too many or good goal keeping but in my mind Conor McGrath was fouled as the big defender slapped him on the hand as he cut inside causing him to lose possession, something that seemed to be let go all day although the ref did throw out a yellow card later on for it.

Kilmallock just never gave up and put over some great points at times to keep within shouting distance of Cratloe and their freshness stood to them in extra time where they pulled away from a jaded Cratloe.

Up next is the Ports  8)
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Roashter on November 24, 2014, 10:43:10 AM
Yeah, was a brilliant game yesterday.
Killmallock were the better team overall, although Cratloe's heavy schedule in last few weeks must have had an effect on them.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: theskull1 on November 24, 2014, 01:24:43 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 24, 2014, 09:15:38 AM
Up next is the Ports  8)

Tipp vs Limerick ...at least it'll look like it is anyway  8)
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: CitySlicker11 on November 24, 2014, 05:38:03 PM
What was Gavin O'Mahony sent off for in yesterdays game, I am not sure if TG4 showed it or if I just missed it?
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: johnneycool on November 25, 2014, 10:43:37 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on November 24, 2014, 05:38:03 PM
What was Gavin O'Mahony sent off for in yesterdays game, I am not sure if TG4 showed it or if I just missed it?

TG4 didn't show it as it was just after Cratloe had scored a goal.

It'll be interesting if Killmallock appeal it as he'll miss the next game against Portaferry if they don't. Maybe they'll be confident enough to play it without him..
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Premier Emperor on November 25, 2014, 11:29:05 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 25, 2014, 10:43:37 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on November 24, 2014, 05:38:03 PM
What was Gavin O'Mahony sent off for in yesterdays game, I am not sure if TG4 showed it or if I just missed it?

TG4 didn't show it as it was just after Cratloe had scored a goal.

It'll be interesting if Killmallock appeal it as he'll miss the next game against Portaferry if they don't. Maybe they'll be confident enough to play it without him..
They'll won't need him for the semi final, but he is very lucky that Kilmallock had the plum draw this year.

Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 26, 2014, 10:56:00 AM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on November 25, 2014, 11:29:05 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 25, 2014, 10:43:37 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on November 24, 2014, 05:38:03 PM
What was Gavin O'Mahony sent off for in yesterdays game, I am not sure if TG4 showed it or if I just missed it?

TG4 didn't show it as it was just after Cratloe had scored a goal.

It'll be interesting if Killmallock appeal it as he'll miss the next game against Portaferry if they don't. Maybe they'll be confident enough to play it without him..
They'll won't need him for the semi final, but he is very lucky that Kilmallock had the plum draw this year.
Cratloe got the plum draw in the Munster Semi Final
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2014, 11:15:26 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 26, 2014, 10:56:00 AM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on November 25, 2014, 11:29:05 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 25, 2014, 10:43:37 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on November 24, 2014, 05:38:03 PM
What was Gavin O'Mahony sent off for in yesterdays game, I am not sure if TG4 showed it or if I just missed it?

TG4 didn't show it as it was just after Cratloe had scored a goal.

It'll be interesting if Killmallock appeal it as he'll miss the next game against Portaferry if they don't. Maybe they'll be confident enough to play it without him..
They'll won't need him for the semi final, but he is very lucky that Kilmallock had the plum draw this year.
Cratloe got the plum draw in the Munster Semi Final

Thurles are the biggest ever underachievers in the club series, so strange why they have bottled it every time, considering the talent and the catchment they have
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Premier Emperor on December 03, 2014, 02:54:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2014, 11:15:26 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 26, 2014, 10:56:00 AM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on November 25, 2014, 11:29:05 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 25, 2014, 10:43:37 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on November 24, 2014, 05:38:03 PM
What was Gavin O'Mahony sent off for in yesterdays game, I am not sure if TG4 showed it or if I just missed it?

TG4 didn't show it as it was just after Cratloe had scored a goal.

It'll be interesting if Killmallock appeal it as he'll miss the next game against Portaferry if they don't. Maybe they'll be confident enough to play it without him..
They'll won't need him for the semi final, but he is very lucky that Kilmallock had the plum draw this year.
Cratloe got the plum draw in the Munster Semi Final

Thurles are the biggest ever underachievers in the club series, so strange why they have bottled it every time, considering the talent and the catchment they have
I'd have to agree. They should have racked up a couple of All Ireland titles by now, with the quality of players they have.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: gallsman on December 03, 2014, 03:27:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2014, 11:15:26 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 26, 2014, 10:56:00 AM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on November 25, 2014, 11:29:05 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 25, 2014, 10:43:37 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on November 24, 2014, 05:38:03 PM
What was Gavin O'Mahony sent off for in yesterdays game, I am not sure if TG4 showed it or if I just missed it?

TG4 didn't show it as it was just after Cratloe had scored a goal.

It'll be interesting if Killmallock appeal it as he'll miss the next game against Portaferry if they don't. Maybe they'll be confident enough to play it without him..
They'll won't need him for the semi final, but he is very lucky that Kilmallock had the plum draw this year.
Cratloe got the plum draw in the Munster Semi Final

Thurles are the biggest ever underachievers in the club series, so strange why they have bottled it every time, considering the talent and the catchment they have

No real surprise. For all the talent they have, their best players are all underachievers and bottlers individually.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Homeofhurling10 on December 04, 2014, 08:53:33 AM
Quote from: gallsman on December 03, 2014, 03:27:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2014, 11:15:26 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 26, 2014, 10:56:00 AM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on November 25, 2014, 11:29:05 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 25, 2014, 10:43:37 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on November 24, 2014, 05:38:03 PM
What was Gavin O'Mahony sent off for in yesterdays game, I am not sure if TG4 showed it or if I just missed it?

TG4 didn't show it as it was just after Cratloe had scored a goal.

It'll be interesting if Killmallock appeal it as he'll miss the next game against Portaferry if they don't. Maybe they'll be confident enough to play it without him..
They'll won't need him for the semi final, but he is very lucky that Kilmallock had the plum draw this year.
Cratloe got the plum draw in the Munster Semi Final

Thurles are the biggest ever underachievers in the club series, so strange why they have bottled it every time, considering the talent and the catchment they have

No real surprise. For all the talent they have, their best players are all underachievers and bottlers individually.
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Lar Corbett - 2 Senior All-Irelands, 5 senior Munster titles, 2 league titles, three All stars and a hurler of the year, 148 points from play in senior championship hurling.


Padraic Maher - 1 senior All ireland, 3 Munster senior titles, 2  Minor All - Irelands, 1 U-21 All Ireland, 3 all stars at the age of 25.


Mickey Cahill - 1 senior All-Ireland, 2 Munster senior titles , 2 minor All- Irelands, 1 u-21 All Ireland, 1 all star at the age of 25.


If the above is an example of "bottlers and underachievers" i would love to be one !
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: seafoid on December 04, 2014, 10:25:40 AM
Why are Tipp clubs so poor in the club championship ?
Galway are fabliss on the other hand.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: gallsman on December 04, 2014, 10:58:24 AM
You don't consider that underachievement focusing the talent they and the wider Tipp panels have had since the turn off the century?
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Homeofhurling10 on December 04, 2014, 11:29:24 AM
What has the talent of the wider Tipp panels got to do with your statement above accusing Sars best players of being bottlers and underachievers "individually", which of the above three is a bottler and could have achieved more individually ? The former hurler of the year who will finish his career in the top three scorers from play in history or the two backs in their mid twenties generally recognised as being among the best defenders in the game ?

Not having a go at you Gallsman but at the wider use of the word "bottler" in relation to top intercounty hurlers, it drives me mad, i would say the real "bottlers" are the 99% of us who dont have the dedication and drive to hurl intercounty at the top level.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: theskull1 on December 04, 2014, 12:35:24 PM
Dunloy beat a Mount Sion team who had Tony Brown, Ken McGrath , Eoin McGath and Eoin Kelly in the AI club semis. We won because the 4 all stars of that year hadn't the stomach for it  ;D

Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: CitySlicker11 on December 04, 2014, 12:48:51 PM
I would rank that semi final victory for Dunloy up there in terms of upsets, considering the individuals that Mount Sion had. Thurles Sars are another example however that talented individuals can only get you so far in club hurling. Dunloy also had a great semi final win against Portumna in Clones one year. Which was your favourite game Skull?
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Canalman on December 04, 2014, 01:15:41 PM
Have always said that the most important players in an AI club winning team are usually the  "11th to 17th best players " on the panel.

5/6 superstars on an extremely average rest of team won't get you anywhere imo.

For me Kilcormac Killoughey are a great example of a well balanced team and I will be v interested to see how they do against Ballyhale.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: theskull1 on December 04, 2014, 04:39:33 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on December 04, 2014, 12:48:51 PM
I would rank that semi final victory for Dunloy up there in terms of upsets, considering the individuals that Mount Sion had. Thurles Sars are another example however that talented individuals can only get you so far in club hurling. Dunloy also had a great semi final win against Portumna in Clones one year. Which was your favourite game Skull?

I reckon the semi final vs Glenmore in Croke Park was our finest display. Didn't put a foot wrong and ran out 11 point winners that day. Willie O'Connor bottled it ...... or was it Eddie? Twas probably both of them ate the onion  ;D
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: johnneycool on December 04, 2014, 04:45:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 04, 2014, 04:39:33 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on December 04, 2014, 12:48:51 PM
I would rank that semi final victory for Dunloy up there in terms of upsets, considering the individuals that Mount Sion had. Thurles Sars are another example however that talented individuals can only get you so far in club hurling. Dunloy also had a great semi final win against Portumna in Clones one year. Which was your favourite game Skull?

I reckon the semi final vs Glenmore in Croke Park was our finest display. Didn't put a foot wrong and ran out 11 point winners that day. Willie O'Connor bottled it ...... or was it Eddie? Twas probably both of them ate the onion  ;D

Was it not Ray Heffernan?

In saying that Big Dominic gave Christy an awful going over, remember the Kilkenny lads weren't overly impressed about it.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: manfromdelmonte on December 04, 2014, 05:22:17 PM
Quote from: Canalman on December 04, 2014, 01:15:41 PM
Have always said that the most important players in an AI club winning team are usually the  "11th to 17th best players " on the panel.

5/6 superstars on an extremely average rest of team won't get you anywhere imo.

For me Kilcormac Killoughey are a great example of a well balanced team and I will be v interested to see how they do against Ballyhale.

that is the same on most teams.
better to have more of the 'better than average club players' than star players.
nothing worse than a club team where the top player(s) have to 'do everything' - frees, sidelines, scoring from play
its like watching an U12 or U14 team at times.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: theskull1 on December 04, 2014, 05:59:52 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 04, 2014, 04:45:20 PM
Was it not Ray Heffernan?

In saying that Big Dominic gave Christy an awful going over, remember the Kilkenny lads weren't overly impressed about it.

Big Dom was gone by then..that was 1991 your thinking of. Christie was a hard man to soften. If ever a man could stick a bit of leatherin it was him. I think by the end up big Dom got soften'd
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: johnneycool on December 05, 2014, 09:02:53 AM
Christy allegedly got his helmet cracked in the ensuing battle so I'm not so sure how much of a softening Dominic got!!
;)
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: the waffler on December 06, 2014, 07:07:04 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on December 04, 2014, 12:48:51 PM
I would rank that semi final victory for Dunloy up there in terms of upsets, considering the individuals that Mount Sion had. Thurles Sars are another example however that talented individuals can only get you so far in club hurling. Dunloy also had a great semi final win against Portumna in Clones one year. Which was your favourite game Skull?
Was at both games wouldnt be so sure bout upset that Dunloy team was as good as any game with mount sion was a cracker
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: pullhard on December 07, 2014, 11:57:52 AM
It sickens the hole out of me that there is still hurling being played this time of year. Heavy pitches, soggy balls, low sun, recipe for injuries. Club hurlers who have worked there balls off since January deserve much better than this. I don't buy into this county nonsense excuse either.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: orangeman on December 07, 2014, 02:49:48 PM
Quote from: pullhard on December 07, 2014, 11:57:52 AM
It sickens the hole out of me that there is still hurling being played this time of year. Heavy pitches, soggy balls, low sun, recipe for injuries. Club hurlers who have worked there balls off since January deserve much better than this. I don't buy into this county nonsense excuse either.

Conditions for this game today are ridiculous.


Game on now.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: orangeman on December 07, 2014, 02:53:19 PM
Kilcormac are tough lads. The tackling is full on. Ballyhale getting all they want here even if they have the better hurlers and the better team.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: orangeman on December 07, 2014, 03:20:54 PM
Some bravery out there by both teams.

The Offaly lads simply won't go away. Ballyhale management would need to tell their lads that it's not a day for the fancy stuff and elaborate cross field passes.

Under foot conditions are terrible with men slipping and sliding all over the shop.

Extra time now.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: gallsman on December 07, 2014, 03:37:36 PM
Brutally tough game out there by the looks of things. Boots must feel like they're filled with lead on that turf.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: orangeman on December 07, 2014, 03:51:01 PM
Henry the difference in extra time. Ballyhale were very short odds this morning to win this game but they'll know that they were in a game today.

It doesn't make sense playing this standard of hurling at this juncture in the competition on fields like bogs and I hope this can be soon addressed.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: gallsman on December 07, 2014, 04:36:12 PM
The number of times Henry pops up on the 45 on right sideline, unmarked, is incredible.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: tyroneboi on December 07, 2014, 05:07:23 PM
Fair play to Shefflin for turning it around in extra time after making a few vital errors in the last few minutes of normal time!
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: pullhard on December 07, 2014, 08:00:18 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 07, 2014, 04:36:12 PM
The number of times Henry pops up on the 45 on right sideline, unmarked, is incredible.

His famous ghosting. Savage when it comes off.

Hurling should never be played this late in the year.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Canalman on December 07, 2014, 08:21:07 PM
Only saw the extra time when BS pulled away.

KK keeper pulled off one of the best saves I ever saw and followed up with another one. Brilliant stuff altogether.

Agree that such an important hurling game should not be played at this time of the year.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: johnneycool on December 08, 2014, 09:59:29 AM
Over the first 60 minutes I thought kk were the better overall team but missed a load of frees that TJ was putting over for Ballyhale and had a ropey fullback line for the taking but yet again failed to convert the chances. That was the get out of jail card used up.

Gort and Portumna this weekend I believe?
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: theskull1 on December 08, 2014, 12:10:54 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 08, 2014, 09:59:29 AM
Over the first 60 minutes I thought kk were the better overall team but missed a load of frees that TJ was putting over for Ballyhale and had a ropey fullback line for the taking but yet again failed to convert the chances. That was the get out of jail card used up.

Gort and Portumna this weekend I believe?

What's the reason this fixture taking place in December?
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Owenmoresider on December 08, 2014, 12:41:22 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 08, 2014, 12:10:54 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 08, 2014, 09:59:29 AM
Over the first 60 minutes I thought kk were the better overall team but missed a load of frees that TJ was putting over for Ballyhale and had a ropey fullback line for the taking but yet again failed to convert the chances. That was the get out of jail card used up.

Gort and Portumna this weekend I believe?

What's the reason this fixture taking place in December?
To summarise:
-Turloughmore played Ardrahan in the county quarter-final in late September, which ended in a draw.
-Before the replay the CCC upheld an objection to Turloughmore fielding an ineligible player (who had played for a club in the States during the summer) in their group game win against Beagh, the game was nullified and Beagh went through instead as runners-up, thus to play Ardrahan instead.
-Cue prolonged appeals by Turlough' to the Hearings committees internally, in Connacht and eventually on to the DRA, to no avail.
-Beagh beat Ardrahan in the new quarter-final two weeks ago, but lost to Gort in the semi last weekend. Portumna had qualified for the final in early October.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: theskull1 on December 08, 2014, 02:35:31 PM
Cheers for that
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: AZOffaly on December 08, 2014, 02:36:48 PM
Brutal for Portumna.


Hard luck to KK yesterday. That's some forward line Ballyhale have, for a club team. Jaysus.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: pullhard on December 14, 2014, 09:10:58 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 08, 2014, 02:36:48 PM
Brutal for Portumna.


Hard luck to KK yesterday. That's some forward line Ballyhale have, for a club team. Jaysus.

Portumna out, when will the connaught final take place?

That pitch, must have been like running in marmite. Hurling in December....
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2014, 09:35:36 PM
Is there a connacht final now? I thought other counties went into intermediate/ junior with galway champions?
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: pullhard on December 14, 2014, 09:37:12 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 14, 2014, 09:35:36 PM
Is there a connacht final now? I thought other counties went into intermediate/ junior with galway champions?

sorry i assumed there would be a connacht final.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: seafoid on December 14, 2014, 09:40:33 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 08, 2014, 12:10:54 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 08, 2014, 09:59:29 AM
Over the first 60 minutes I thought kk were the better overall team but missed a load of frees that TJ was putting over for Ballyhale and had a ropey fullback line for the taking but yet again failed to convert the chances. That was the get out of jail card used up.

Gort and Portumna this weekend I believe?

What's the reason this fixture taking place in December?
Galway hurling is at its best in very late autumn/early winter
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2014, 09:41:13 PM
I'm not 100% sure but think that's the case.can't recall hearing of a connacht club, or county, hurling final in a long time.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2014, 09:56:45 PM
The other Connacht clubs play in the intermediate and junior finals... There has been a team outside of Galway that has won before at senior, was it Four roads? or have I made that up
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: pullhard on December 14, 2014, 10:02:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2014, 09:56:45 PM
The other Connacht clubs play in the intermediate and junior finals... There has been a team outside of Galway that has won before at senior, was it Four roads? or have I made that up

Thanks MR, shouldn't have made the assumption.

Any write ups from todays game?
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: seafoid on December 14, 2014, 10:15:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2014, 09:56:45 PM
The other Connacht clubs play in the intermediate and junior finals... There has been a team outside of Galway that has won before at senior, was it Four roads? or have I made that up
They beat abbeyknockmoy in 88

http://www.fourroadshurlingclub.com/history

One of the great highlights any possibly the greatest achievement in the history of the club took place at Ballyforan on Sunday, November 20th 1988, when the Connaught Club Championship was won on the field of play. Galway champions, Abbeyknockmoy, were expected to pick up the Connaught title without too much trouble. However, the mighty heroes from Four Roads had other ideas and in a hectic final quarter, goals from Simon Coyle, Paul Dolan and Paddy Dolan shocked Abbeyknockmoy and the hurling world. The final whistle brought an explosion of emotion and celebration, which had to be seen to be believed. It was a source of great pride for Four Roads people all over the world and will always be a cherished memory for those of us who were lucky to be there.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Owenmoresider on December 14, 2014, 10:44:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2014, 09:56:45 PM
The other Connacht clubs play in the intermediate and junior finals... There has been a team outside of Galway that has won before at senior, was it Four roads? or have I made that up
The Connacht club hurling is ranked in many ways like the IC hurling championships are, in that the Mayo and Roscommon champions play Intermediate and the Sligo and Leitrim champions Junior, and both county champions play each other in a semi final to meet the Galway Intermediate/Junior champions in the provincial final, and the Galway senior champions go straight to the AI semi.

As above, Four Roads won in 1988 but also Tremane won one in the mid 70's also. Remarkable given that club is merely comprised of a few townlands if I recall right.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: johnneycool on December 15, 2014, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: pullhard on December 14, 2014, 09:10:58 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 08, 2014, 02:36:48 PM
Brutal for Portumna.


Hard luck to KK yesterday. That's some forward line Ballyhale have, for a club team. Jaysus.

Portumna out, when will the connaught final take place?

That pitch, must have been like running in marmite. Hurling in December....

That pitch looked like Athenry to me, what was wrong with Salthill?

Gort looked like they wanted it more and overall better all round team, they'll give Ballyhale their fill of it in November.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Lecale2 on December 15, 2014, 10:33:08 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 15, 2014, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: pullhard on December 14, 2014, 09:10:58 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 08, 2014, 02:36:48 PM
Brutal for Portumna.


Hard luck to KK yesterday. That's some forward line Ballyhale have, for a club team. Jaysus.

Portumna out, when will the connaught final take place?

That pitch, must have been like running in marmite. Hurling in December....

That pitch looked like Athenry to me, what was wrong with Salthill?

Gort looked like they wanted it more and overall better all round team, they'll give Ballyhale their fill of it in November.


February?
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: pullhard on December 15, 2014, 01:18:07 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on December 15, 2014, 10:33:08 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 15, 2014, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: pullhard on December 14, 2014, 09:10:58 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 08, 2014, 02:36:48 PM
Brutal for Portumna.


Hard luck to KK yesterday. That's some forward line Ballyhale have, for a club team. Jaysus.

Portumna out, when will the connaught final take place?

That pitch, must have been like running in marmite. Hurling in December....

That pitch looked like Athenry to me, what was wrong with Salthill?

Gort looked like they wanted it more and overall better all round team, they'll give Ballyhale their fill of it in November.


February?

Possibly been pushed back ;)
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: NAG1 on December 15, 2014, 04:19:24 PM
Was Joe injured he looked very heavy legged, the pitch didnt suit the better ball players from Portumna. The pace was slow and a lot of tackles put in, Gort definitely had the work rate and deserved their win.

The goal coming so close on the back of the Portumna goal really killed the game.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: manfromdelmonte on December 16, 2014, 12:07:41 AM
I think some work had been done on the salthill pitch, as the county finals should have been played off
plus, clubs hate coming across the city to play games
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 16, 2014, 12:52:13 PM
Quote from: seafoid on December 04, 2014, 10:25:40 AM
Why are Tipp clubs so poor in the club championship ?
Galway are fabliss on the other hand.

Err no provincial Championship to navigate through for Galway ?
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: gallsman on December 17, 2014, 09:35:51 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 16, 2014, 12:52:13 PM
Quote from: seafoid on December 04, 2014, 10:25:40 AM
Why are Tipp clubs so poor in the club championship ?
Galway are fabliss on the other hand.

Err no provincial Championship to navigate through for Galway ?

Yes, but Galways clubs (obviously dominated by Portumna recently) actually go on to win the all Ireland. Tipp clubs rarely get out of Munster.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Roashter on January 13, 2015, 05:01:38 PM
Looks like both semi-finals are fixed for a double header in Thurles.

Seems a bit unfair that Portaferry (unless they actually want to play in Thurles) have to travel so far. Google maps tells me it is 4 hours versus 1 hour for Killmallock.

Surely Parnell park would have been fairer.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Canalman on January 13, 2015, 05:20:24 PM
Quote from: Roashter on January 13, 2015, 05:01:38 PM
Looks like both semi-finals are fixed for a double header in Thurles.

Seems a bit unfair that Portaferry (unless they actually want to play in Thurles) have to travel so far. Google maps tells me it is 4 hours versus 1 hour for Killmallock.

Surely Parnell park would have been fairer.


Read in the paper today that Portaferry have no problem with venue and actually welcomed playing in Thurles. No whinging or scrutinizing maps of Ireland and AA websites for distances.
To say the least it was refreshing to read.

Classy on their part and to be commended.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 13, 2015, 07:28:18 PM
Next year the GAA might play all the semis up in Ulster so
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: theskull1 on January 13, 2015, 08:55:35 PM
It'd be classy if they did wouldn't it  ;D

Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 13, 2015, 09:39:01 PM
Quote from: Canalman on January 13, 2015, 05:20:24 PM
Quote from: Roashter on January 13, 2015, 05:01:38 PM
Looks like both semi-finals are fixed for a double header in Thurles.

Seems a bit unfair that Portaferry (unless they actually want to play in Thurles) have to travel so far. Google maps tells me it is 4 hours versus 1 hour for Killmallock.

Surely Parnell park would have been fairer.


Read in the paper today that Portaferry have no problem with venue and actually welcomed playing in Thurles. No whinging or scrutinizing maps of Ireland and AA websites for distances.
To say the least it was refreshing to read.

Classy on their part and to be commended.

With respect, I think that is missing the point slightly. Portaferry ( the team) were always going to turn up and play wherever the game was fixed. Portaferry (the team) were never going to get involved in that sort of distraction.  They'll go down the night before, stay somewhere nice and try and get their heads right for the game the next day.

On the other hand, I have no difficulty with someone pointing out (and indeed complaining of the apparent unfairness) that, on the one hand, the supporters of one of the two teams are looking at an 8 hour round trip while the opposition have a 2 hour round trip to a venue that has never before (to my knowledge) staged a double header for the semi finals. If that is "whinging", so be it, but there is no harm in pointing it out. Anyway, the (GAA) world knows there is no prospect whatsoever in the venue being changed whatever is said by whomever.

Moreover, I always find a good gurn to be therapeutic!
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2015, 02:25:53 PM
Rossa from Belfast are playing the Munster Intermediate champions tomorrow, Cappoquin. Are they a decent team? Rossa traditionally have always been a great hurling teams but have declined in the last few years, bit of a resurgence lately but maybe lack that killer blow to finish off teams. How would Cappoquin fair ?

Rossa are a decent price at 2/1, was 3/1 last week, obviously a lot of McCooeys have visited the bookies
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 05, 2015, 09:02:00 PM
Semis moved to mullingar.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: johnneycool on February 05, 2015, 09:53:46 PM
A lot of hotel bookings being cancelled if possible in Portaferry! Frozen pitch in Thurles allegedly.

Wondering why they split the semi finals now though
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: AZOffaly on February 05, 2015, 10:46:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 05, 2015, 09:02:00 PM
Semis moved to mullingar.

1 in Tullamore.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: johnneycool on February 09, 2015, 09:14:04 AM
Sadly for the Ports on Saturday, the game was over before it got going, conceding 1-1 in the first few minutes is the last thing they wanted or needed!
Not entirely sure what Karol Keating thought he was doing for the goal, yes the Kilmallock man had rounded the defender, but he was off to the left of the goals and still a bit to do, Karol came out, caught in no mans land, was easily rounded leaving an open net..
After that, the power and size of a big Kilmallock team dominated all proceedings with Portaferry living off scraps. I'd say there were at least two Portaferry forwards who never got to touch leather.
The speed of hurling was all too evident, Ports getting caught in possession, taking too long to strike the ball and their first touch which had been good up to this point, was a huge let down. Thought their two corner backs battled away gamely, but were turning a tide before the inevitable collapse at the end.

Whilst its hard to judge how Kilmallock will fare against Ballyhale, with Ballyhale rightly being instilled as hot favourites, I think Kilmallock with catch their fare share of ball in their forwards to cause Ballyhale a few problems at the back. Gort like Kilcormac didn't take the goal chances that came their way and were punished for it.
Whilst Henry is as cute as ever, and can work himself into positions to take scores, TJ Reid is now the main man and was fantastic on Saturday, popping up all over the place and his touch is unreal. If Kilmallock can reduce his influence on the game, I think they've a real chance.

Was impressed with the Gort centre back, but no doubt there's some reason or other he'll not feature for Galway in that position any time soon!

Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: mouview on February 09, 2015, 09:02:27 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 09, 2015, 09:14:04 AM

Was impressed with the Gort centre back, but no doubt there's some reason or other he'll not feature for Galway in that position any time soon!

If he doesn't, it's because he won't be good enough. Galway hurling gets castigated for a lot of things, but lads showing form do get a chance.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: johnneycool on February 10, 2015, 09:39:15 AM
Quote from: mouview on February 09, 2015, 09:02:27 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 09, 2015, 09:14:04 AM

Was impressed with the Gort centre back, but no doubt there's some reason or other he'll not feature for Galway in that position any time soon!

If he doesn't, it's because he won't be good enough. Galway hurling gets castigated for a lot of things, but lads showing form do get a chance.

Getting a chance, in what way? One run out in the national league and if it doesn't go your way, then consigned to the rubbish heap.

Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: mouview on February 10, 2015, 01:09:48 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 10, 2015, 09:39:15 AM
Quote from: mouview on February 09, 2015, 09:02:27 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 09, 2015, 09:14:04 AM

Was impressed with the Gort centre back, but no doubt there's some reason or other he'll not feature for Galway in that position any time soon!

If he doesn't, it's because he won't be good enough. Galway hurling gets castigated for a lot of things, but lads showing form do get a chance.

Getting a chance, in what way? One run out in the national league and if it doesn't go your way, then consigned to the rubbish heap.

But who?
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2015, 02:51:34 PM
Quote from: mouview on February 10, 2015, 01:09:48 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 10, 2015, 09:39:15 AM
Quote from: mouview on February 09, 2015, 09:02:27 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 09, 2015, 09:14:04 AM

Was impressed with the Gort centre back, but no doubt there's some reason or other he'll not feature for Galway in that position any time soon!

If he doesn't, it's because he won't be good enough. Galway hurling gets castigated for a lot of things, but lads showing form do get a chance.

Getting a chance, in what way? One run out in the national league and if it doesn't go your way, then consigned to the rubbish heap.

But who?
the team has been fairly stable since Cunningham took over. His job is to bring the various successful u21s along and he has been given another stint for better or worse. If your man is good enough he'll get a chance. CHB is one of the problem areas as well.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2015, 02:56:37 PM
the big mystery of the club hurling is why Tipp clubs have only won 3 finals, the last one in the 80s.
Munster clubs have been fairly poor for over 10 years but Tipp clubs are even worse
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: johnneycool on March 06, 2015, 02:34:28 PM
Quote from: mouview on February 09, 2015, 09:02:27 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 09, 2015, 09:14:04 AM

Was impressed with the Gort centre back, but no doubt there's some reason or other he'll not feature for Galway in that position any time soon!

If he doesn't, it's because he won't be good enough. Galway hurling gets castigated for a lot of things, but lads showing form do get a chance.

Greg Lally gets his chance against Kilkenny, hopefully he'll make a go of it..
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: johnneycool on March 17, 2015, 08:59:12 AM
What's the feeling, have Kilmallock a chance or Ballyhale rightly hot favourites?

I do think Kilmallock have a real chance as the Ballyhale fullback line have been living by the seat of their pants against both Kilcormac and Gort and were lucky not to concede goals.
They'll need to impede the influence of TJ Reid and the havoc he'll cause at the other end, very doable but should be an interesting contest.

Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Lecale2 on March 17, 2015, 09:35:29 AM
I have to agree JC. Killmallock are certainly worth a small punt at 9/4. They were outsiders in the Limerick final and all through Munster so they won't mind the underdogs tag.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2015, 10:21:22 AM
Killmallock play on the edge, they could lose a player in this game, as already said if TJ is on his game then he'll score all over the pitch, but he's prone to having bad days, if marked correctly he could be taken out of the game.. either or I still fancy Ballyhale, they have the tradition and the previous of winning at Croke Park +5 points
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: manfromdelmonte on March 17, 2015, 11:24:21 AM
Have Kilmallock got someone to mark Reid though?

I hope the Limerick boys do it.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: doodaa on March 17, 2015, 01:53:28 PM
Any links for a live feed of the match?
Cant get to a TV
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: johnneycool on March 17, 2015, 03:35:23 PM
Didn't get to watch it myself Dooda, but going by the live updates on GAA.ie that Ballyhale were in control for most of the game, disappointed for Kilmallock, always nice to see someone else get a win now and then
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: doodaa on March 18, 2015, 02:15:02 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 17, 2015, 03:35:23 PM
Didn't get to watch it myself Dooda, but going by the live updates on GAA.ie that Ballyhale were in control for most of the game, disappointed for Kilmallock, always nice to see someone else get a win now and then

Same as myself johnneycool, I just followed the updates for both matches on the GAA website.
Would like to see some highlights but I missed them last night.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: seafoid on March 18, 2015, 02:29:56 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 17, 2015, 03:35:23 PM
Didn't get to watch it myself Dooda, but going by the live updates on GAA.ie that Ballyhale were in control for most of the game, disappointed for Kilmallock, always nice to see someone else get a win now and then
Munster clubs don't win many these days
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Thewildcat on March 18, 2015, 04:59:37 PM
you wonder how killmallock got there they very a poor enough side.
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: AZOffaly on March 18, 2015, 05:10:42 PM
I think, in common with a lot of Limerick teams that have made it to Croke Park, they just completely failed to do themselves justice. That said, the Munster Club championship hasn't produced many winners recently. Who would the last ones be? Doora Barefield maybe?
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Plain of the Herbs on March 18, 2015, 05:37:57 PM
Newtownshandrum.  Doora-Barefield before that.

So NTS the only Munster tem to collect the Tommy Moore Cup in the new stand!

Still, a Munster team made it to the Final for the first time in six years (De La Salle) so progress is being made (said with tongue in cheek).
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 18, 2015, 05:10:42 PM
I think, in common with a lot of Limerick teams that have made it to Croke Park, they just completely failed to do themselves justice. That said, the Munster Club championship hasn't produced many winners recently. Who would the last ones be? Doora Barefield maybe?
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: gallsman on March 18, 2015, 05:54:46 PM
Quote from: Plain of the Herbs on March 18, 2015, 05:37:57 PM
Newtownshandrum.  Doora-Barefield before that.

So NTS the only Munster tem to collect the Tommy Moore Cup in the new stand!

Still, a Munster team made it to the Final for the first time in six years (De La Salle) so progress is being made (said with tongue in cheek).

They then got absolutely hockeyed out of it by Portumna a few years later, didn't they?
Title: Re: AI Club hurling
Post by: Premier Emperor on March 18, 2015, 08:33:42 PM
Kilmallock showed Ballyhale far too much respect yesterday.
I heard the Sparrow on the radio this morning. It sounded like Kilmallock were amazed by Croke Park and he thought Ballyhale had a big advantage having Kilkenny players who hurl there a couple of times a year.

He thought the pitch was much longer and wider than anywhere else (it isn't). How can a team expect to perform on an occasion like yesterday, when they behave like a shower of slack jawed yokels who have just seen their first ever traffic light!