Well??
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Nope, wouldn't even have started this thread, Kerry could very well beat them in the final, 9the worst Kerry team in 30yrs too, didn't think Kerry 1991/92 were anything to write home about
There are always a few! I can only imagine what we would have done to Dublin today! If you can't defend well you will lose@ Dublin were horrible on the defensive end today. )
Ah now lads this Donegal side only bet Armagh by one point ;)
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 31, 2014, 05:21:43 PM
Ah now lads this Donegal side only bet Armagh by one point ;)
Are Armagh the 2nd best team ever? ;)
Yes.
We'll do our best . The cause is hopeless but one has to try <sigh>
Time to split Donegal?
I've heard a rumour twice now that the Gooch could be making a. surprise return for Kerry in 3 weeks
Any cute hoors able. to speculate on this?
Soberberd me right up that did
No no..
They were the best team ever in 2012.
They were finished in 2013..
We need Joe Brolly to advise.
Even last year, after the Tyrone game, we were unbeatable.
Its the nature of sports journalism and fandom. Its always knee-jerk, the here and now and immediate gratification.
Perspective doesn't feature.
Quote from: stew on August 31, 2014, 05:18:30 PM
There are always a few! I can only imagine what we would have done to Dublin today! If you can't defend well you will lose@ Dublin were horrible on the defensive end today. )
Armagh would have been swatted aside by Dublin just like Monaghan were.
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on September 01, 2014, 06:02:20 PM
Quote from: stew on August 31, 2014, 05:18:30 PM
There are always a few! I can only imagine what we would have done to Dublin today! If you can't defend well you will lose@ Dublin were horrible on the defensive end today. )
Armagh would have been swatted aside by Dublin just like Monaghan were.
You mean like the way Donegal swatted the Dubs away?
QuoteArmagh would have been swatted aside by Dublin just like Monaghan were.
'Swatted' indeed ... how did you come to that opinion? Dublin were 'swatted' on Sunday. Used to steamrolling average teams into submission and then playing fancy football in front of a full house in Croke Park, once tested as they were against Donegal, Dublin were shown to be lacking. Stick them into an Ulster Championship, and you wouldn't see much of the Dubs in Croke Park ;-)
Quote from: balladmaker on September 02, 2014, 11:28:59 AM
QuoteArmagh would have been swatted aside by Dublin just like Monaghan were.
'Swatted' indeed ... how did you come to that opinion? Dublin were 'swatted' on Sunday. Used to steamrolling average teams into submission and then playing fancy football in front of a full house in Croke Park, once tested as they were against Donegal, Dublin were shown to be lacking. Stick them into an Ulster Championship, and you wouldn't see much of the Dubs in Croke Park ;-)
An argument for the open draw if ever there was one! And I'm no fan of anything new!
Where are Monaghan from again?
On serious reflection there have been four teams fairly consistent over the last four years with not a lot between them, of course Mayo would be the less of the four because they never won it but that is the truth, Kerry unlucky in 11 and last year to lose out to dublin, my point is i dont believe there is any gulf of diff between the four squads , kerry, Mayo, dublin and donegal.
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 02, 2014, 12:52:50 PM
Where are Monaghan from again?
Apparently Ulster is a very fluid concept in the eyes of Ulstermen. It's makeup changes everytime one of them gets beaten.
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on September 02, 2014, 01:28:29 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 02, 2014, 12:52:50 PM
Where are Monaghan from again?
Apparently Ulster is a very fluid concept in the eyes of Ulstermen. It's makeup changes everytime one of them gets beaten.
No county from Ulster (except Donegal) would currently be able to live with that Dublin side.
QuoteNo county from Ulster (except Donegal) would currently be able to live with that Dublin side.
Unfortunately due to the current provincial system, we won't get to prove that statement to be accurate or otherwise.
Derry played them this year too, no?
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 02, 2014, 02:10:02 PM
Derry played them this year too, no?
Played em twice... won one lost one. We also beat Mayo & Kerry this year!
Are we really going to count the league though???!!!
Dublin outside of Croke Park aren't nearly as a formidable side.
I think a League semi final or final in Croke Park counts.
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 02, 2014, 02:28:56 PM
I think a League semi final or final in Croke Park counts.
We bate Mayo in Croke Park... nobody's really counting that up here though in fairness!
The comment was made that Dublin would struggle in Ulster. I think that's wishful thinking. I think a very good Donegal side played a great game and had a brilliant plan which worked on the day. I'm not so sure any other Ulster team would have the capacity for such a performance at the moment. Monaghan have been in the last 2 Ulster finals and won 1 of them. Dublin blew them away.
Styles make fights they say, and Donegal's style and more importantly their execution of it short circuited Dublin. It's as complicated and as simple as that.
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 02, 2014, 02:41:38 PM
The comment was made that Dublin would struggle in Ulster. I think that's wishful thinking. I think a very good Donegal side played a great game and had a brilliant plan which worked on the day. I'm not so sure any other Ulster team would have the capacity for such a performance at the moment. Monaghan have been in the last 2 Ulster finals and won 1 of them. Dublin blew them away.
Styles make fights they say, and Donegal's style and more importantly their execution of it short circuited Dublin. It's as complicated and as simple as that.
Wouldn't be us they would struggle against that's for sure!
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 02, 2014, 02:28:56 PM
I think a League semi final or final in Croke Park counts.
In terms of winning All Ireland's the league has no bearing of any description any more.
Donegal were well beaten in the Division 2 final for crying out loud & I don't recall Kerry or Mayo being at the sharp end of league action either, yet they won their provincial championships & were 3 of the top 4 counties in Ireland when it mattered.
The same will happen in 2015. Donegal have to start their club championship after the final so there is no way that most of these fellas will feature in the league. It will be used to bring younger & squad players on a bit.
You're missing my point. My point is that just because Donegal did a brilliant job on Sunday, it does not imply that the rest of Ulster would stick it to the Dubs.
Quote from: BluestackBoy on September 02, 2014, 02:48:54 PM
Donegal have to start their club championship after the final
It's going to be an even bigger murder picture this year with the extra games compared to the old system two years ago to have a team ready for 2-30pm on the 2nd of November against the Fermanagh Champions.
QuoteThe Donegal senior football championship comprises of 16 teams, four groups of four, with the top two teams from each group advancing to the Quarter Finals.
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 02, 2014, 02:55:56 PM
You're missing my point. My point is that just because Donegal did a brilliant job on Sunday, it does not imply that the rest of Ulster would stick it to the Dubs.
Your probably right, but I think if they were in Ulster they'd come out of it more battle hardened, better able to cope in tight spaces and possibly forced to keep a few more guys back to deal with turnovers.
But that's speculate.
As it is every Ulster team feels that they can beat each other on the day or at least spring a major surprise . It may take a while before even one or two Leinster teams feel that way when playing the Dubs.
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Scenario 3 – Donegal reach All Ireland Final
September 28th Round 1 Senior Championship
October 5th Round 2 Senior Championship
October 12th Round 3 Senior Championship
October 19th Senior Championship Quarter Finals
October 26th Senior Championship Semi Finals
November 2nd Senior Championship Final
Any replays - during the week.
Quote from: drici on September 03, 2014, 09:48:26 AM
Scenario 3 – Donegal reach All Ireland Final
September 28th Round 1 Senior Championship
October 5th Round 2 Senior Championship
October 12th Round 3 Senior Championship
October 19th Senior Championship Quarter Finals
October 26th Senior Championship Semi Finals
November 2nd Senior Championship Final
Any replays - during the week.
Should be fun when the All-Ireland club finals are moved to before Christmas. I can't foresee any fixture chaos ensuing at all.