Couldn't find a thread on this.
Anyhow semi-final stage on Saturday and next Thursday.
Kildare v Laois in Newbridge this Saturday at 3pm and Offaly play Dublin next Thursday night 7 30pm in Tullamore.
Outright Betting
Dublin 4/6
Kildare 11/4
Offaly 4/1
Laois 8/1
Not sure what to expect from the Laois minors, they went down to Wexford Park as underdogs and came away with the win against a fancied Wexford team. Kildare were far from convincing against Westmeath but beat a strong Longford team in Longford. Would be confident of a Kildare victory but with minor teams you can never say.
In the other game I think Offaly might spring a surprise, they have been going well and there are signs that the Dublin conveyor belt is starting to dry up a little.
Ye do up the kip yet? Even a little bit? Hope you're not planning to use ours if you don't get downed.
The match itself should be easy for the Lilies, we might just show up to give ye a hand with your finances. Friendly neighbours that we are.
Quote from: Dont Matter on July 02, 2014, 05:19:18 PM
Ye do up the kip yet? Even a little bit? Hope you're not planning to use ours if you don't get downed.
The match itself should be easy for the Lilies, we might just show up to give ye a hand with your finances. Friendly neighbours that we are.
Na still a sh*thole!
Are you traveling up? Confident?
I'll be there, saw our lads against Carlow. Nothing to write home about. Wouldn't be advising any gamble on our fellas anyway. Sure the wee Lilies have been hittin the weights since 12 haven't they?
Didn't make the Westmeath match but I did see the win over Longford. This team doesn't possess the individual talent of last year's bunch did but they showed a great team ethic to recover from a very bad start. Mescal is exactly the type of player that Kildare are not producing enough of. Strong defender, reads the game very well, leads from the front. I was also very impressed with Boyle from Rathangan at midfield. Tall and gangly player who will run all day. Ben McCormack is a fine skillful footballer. Beside him his clubmate Dempsey who played in goal last year is a great ball winner but is probably lacking a half yard of pace. Michael Kelly from Athy put on an exhibition in extra time.
A win this Saturday guarantees a quarter final place. Kildare football could do with a boost after the no show on Sunday.
Kildare 3-03 Laois 0-02 HT
Kildare 3-11 Laois 0-05 FT
Quote from: Go home ref on July 05, 2014, 03:51:37 PM
Kildare 3-03 Laois 0-02 HT
What's caused Laois to fall off the underage pace after being the pace-setters not much more than a decade ago? There has to be a lesson there for other counties and themselves. They joined the Manning Cup at U16 this year.
Kildare are flying at U16 and at minor and U21 at Leinster but they still have yet to make a meaningful break-through at AI level.
Quote from: Syferus on July 05, 2014, 04:32:21 PM
Quote from: Go home ref on July 05, 2014, 03:51:37 PM
Kildare 3-03 Laois 0-02 HT
What's caused Laois to fall off the underage pace after being the pace-setters not much more than a decade ago? There has to be a lesson there for other counties and themselves. They joined the manning Cup at U16 this year.
Kildare are flying at U16 and at minor and U21 at Leinster but they still have yet to make a meaningful break-through at AI level.
God forbid we become the Roscommon of Leinster!!!
Laois were disappointing and once the game settled they started to struggle physically, the half-time scoreline was very harsh on Laois but Kildare always looked like scoring goals and punished Laois in a 10 minute spell before half-time with three of them.
Lacey's coaching is again evident here with a lot of focus on our defensive structure with Mescal knowing his role and playing it superbly, minor next year as well I believe. The half-back line in particular were just a wall with a superb work-rate. We created loads of opportunities could quibble we weren't clinical enough but it's good to have something to work on and our decision making in the last third was not good enough at times. With good squad dept Brendan Hackett will have some nice selection headaches for the final.
Still a third Leinster final in 5 years (should have been there in 2010) for an age-grade at which we have traditionally struggled is a good sign for the future.
Laois are going well at underage hurling, is that part of the reason?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 06, 2014, 11:49:01 AM
Lacey's coaching is again evident here with a lot of focus on our defensive structure with Mescal knowing his role and playing it superbly, minor next year as well I believe.
I don't think he is Dinny. This is his third year starting on the team.
Good to get back to the final and guarantee a quarter final spot against either Cork or Kerry. The final will be a tough ask. Dublin will always be strong and there seems to be a lot of confidence behind the Offaly team this year with Kellaghan over them.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 06, 2014, 01:46:30 PM
Laois are going well at underage hurling, is that part of the reason?
I don't think there is that much of an overlap between football and hurling in Laois. The county seems to be split geographically between the two with hurling strong in the south and west of the county, football in the north and east. They led the way with the development squads system in the nineties and had a visionary in Dempsey driving the whole thing forward. Dempsey isn't involved anymore and they have stood still while other counties have caught up and passed them by. Christy O'Connor had an article in the Sunday Times yesterday stating that Laois had 105 players attending u14 trials in 2007. Only 46 players attended trials this year.
Offaly minors getting toasted tonight, awful pity, looks like the occasion got to them and they did a Brazil on it.
Leinster Minor FC Semi Final Offaly 0-3 Dublin 3-7 (HT)
40 mins gone Dublin 5-10 offaly 0-4 the dubs will probably be all Ireland favourites after this result.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 10, 2014, 08:04:26 PM
Offaly minors getting toasted tonight, awful pity, looks like the occasion got to them and they did a Brazil on it.
Leinster Minor FC Semi Final Offaly 0-3 Dublin 3-7 (HT)
If it wasn't for your clubs playing U16 games the night before you played Offaly in the Manning Cup you'd have walked the Manning Cup and Offaly wouldn't have been in a position to win it. They flattered to deceive at under-age last year and this result is only proof of that. The two best teams in Leinster by quite a significant margin are in the final.
Leinster MFC Semi Final FT - Offaly 0-6 Dublin 6-13
Handy one for our gossoons in the final so.
Quote from: Syferus on July 10, 2014, 08:40:38 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 10, 2014, 08:04:26 PM
Offaly minors getting toasted tonight, awful pity, looks like the occasion got to them and they did a Brazil on it.
Leinster Minor FC Semi Final Offaly 0-3 Dublin 3-7 (HT)
If it wasn't for your clubs playing U16 games the night before you played Offaly in the Manning Cup you'd have walked the Manning Cup and Offaly wouldn't have been in a position to win it. They flattered to deceive at under-age last year and this result is only proof of that. The two best teams in Leinster by quite a significant margin are in the final.
Offaly are in need of serious investment by the GAA. Laois hurling was turned around inside 5 years and the same can happen here.
Men against boys. Offaly were never as good as people thought they were - we knew that beforehand. But they need help and the GAA needs to get in there and start organising things for them.
Wide open final. Kildare are very good.
Offaly reached the Leinster minor league final and lost by a small margin to Longford this year. Longford brought Kildare to extra time so what happened to Offaly tonight is strange to say the least.
Quote from: ross4life on July 10, 2014, 11:44:36 PM
Offaly reached the Leinster minor league final and lost by a small margin to Longford this year. Longford brought Kildare to extra time so what happened to Offaly tonight is strange to say the least.
Leitrim, CML champions, turfed out of Connacht by a team that only won one of five league games in relatively convincing fashion. Teams are usually searching for their panel in the league, like Leitrim's seniors in the FBD minor teams like Leitrim and Offaly with a very tight pick will be at an advantage because they'll be more settled. Leagues lie, basically.
Very disheartened by this. Feel sorry for Pascal and the lads, as they've had good results against the likes of Kildare and Meath over recent years in various grades. I just hope this blowout doesn't destroy the good work that *has* been done with these lads.
This farce can't continue.
The Kildare Minor team to face Dublin in Sundays Leinster Minor Football Final has been named as:
1 Tadhg Foley Athy
2 Sean Healy Moorefield
3 Mark Hyland Athy
4 Alan Scully Sarsfields
5 Jamie Flynn Round Towers
6 Paul Mescal Maynooth
7 Conor Earley Raheens
8 Eoghan Boyle Rathangan
9 Con Kavanagh Sarsfields
10 Evan Flynn Round Towers
11 Conor Hartley Sarsfields
12 Rory Feely Athy
13 Michael Kelly Athy
14 Sean Dempsey Sarsfields
15 Stefan Lawlor Rathangan
I expect this game between these to revert back to type at this level and be very tight with only a couple of scores in it at the end. Longford is the form line and both had tight away wins in Pearse Park, Kildare needing extra time. Kildare have a very tight defence well marshalled by Mescal and as a unit they have very much a 'thou shalt not pass' attitude. Dublin on reports are good in the air so ball retention from kick-outs from a Kildare perspective will be important. If we get enough possession we have the forwards who can amass enough scores to win it. While it would be great to win a 2 in a row at this level, just playing the Leinster final and the subsequent All-Ireland quarter-final is very important for these young players in terms of their development.
It's hard not to feel that Kildare have a better chance here than the odds suggest. Very tempting bet.
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on July 18, 2014, 11:06:09 AM
It's hard not to feel that Kildare have a better chance here than the odds suggest. Very tempting bet.
It's a strange one, Dublin were poor last year and Kildare won the u16 championship when these two teams met (albeit a 0-5 to 0-4 thriller in a wet Hawkfield) in 2012. Minor is a grade though I wouldn't put too much money on though. If you could get Kildare +2/3 that could be the bet.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 18, 2014, 11:27:23 AM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on July 18, 2014, 11:06:09 AM
It's hard not to feel that Kildare have a better chance here than the odds suggest. Very tempting bet.
It's a strange one, Dublin were poor last year and Kildare won the u16 championship when these two teams met (albeit a 0-5 to 0-4 thriller in a wet Hawkfield) in 2012. Minor is a grade though I wouldn't put too much money on though. If you could get Kildare -2/3 that could be the bet.
+2/3 or -2/3??
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 18, 2014, 01:50:42 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 18, 2014, 11:27:23 AM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on July 18, 2014, 11:06:09 AM
It's hard not to feel that Kildare have a better chance here than the odds suggest. Very tempting bet.
It's a strange one, Dublin were poor last year and Kildare won the u16 championship when these two teams met (albeit a 0-5 to 0-4 thriller in a wet Hawkfield) in 2012. Minor is a grade though I wouldn't put too much money on though. If you could get Kildare -2/3 that could be the bet.
+2/3 or -2/3??
Sorry +
The goals killed us. The young lads didnt throw in the towel but they were just outclassed. Important we give Kerry a good go now.
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on July 20, 2014, 03:53:12 PM
The goals killed us. The young lads didnt throw in the towel but they were just outclassed. Important we give Kerry a good go now.
It was the manner of how we conceded the second and third goals. Completed deflated the players but they kept trying as you said which is a good sign. Dublin though I thought were very clinical and very committed, won nearly all of the 50/50s and even some of the 40/60s. O'Callaghan and Mullins the full-back were excellent for Dublin, Kildare just didn't have that type of situational leadership on the pitch. Need to be very physical with Kerry in the quarters.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 20, 2014, 04:26:56 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on July 20, 2014, 03:53:12 PM
The goals killed us. The young lads didnt throw in the towel but they were just outclassed. Important we give Kerry a good go now.
It was the manner of how we conceded the second and third goals. Completed deflated the players but they kept trying as you said which is a good sign. Dublin though I thought were very clinical and very committed, won nearly all of the 50/50s and even some of the 40/60s. O'Callaghan and Mullins the full-back were excellent for Dublin, Kildare just didn't have that type of situational leadership on the pitch. Need to be very physical with Kerry in the quarters.
Certainly wouldn't give up on them. That was good from our lads today- we're going to get another 2-3 seniors off this team as well.
O Callaghan may well be better then Costello was at the same age. Sobering thought for other counties