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Title: crazy beliefs
Post by: firestarter on July 12, 2013, 09:17:19 AM
I was watching tv recently with a Catholic friend. When Tom cruise appeared he made a comment about Cruises 'crazy beliefs'. When i asked him how they were any more or less crazy in believing in a magical man who lived thousands of years ago who could walk on water & who rose from the dead he had no real answer other than it must be less insane because more people believe it...
Title: Re: crazy beliefs
Post by: ballinaman on July 12, 2013, 09:29:47 AM
Meath will beat Dublin on Sunday.
Title: Re: crazy beliefs
Post by: laoislad on July 12, 2013, 09:31:09 AM
Another thread about religion...brilliant.
Title: Re: crazy beliefs
Post by: All of a Sludden on July 12, 2013, 09:36:54 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 12, 2013, 09:29:47 AM
Meath will beat Dublin on Sunday.

And Mayo will win the All Ireland.  ::)

Walking on water doesn't seem that far fetched after all.
Title: Re: crazy beliefs
Post by: J70 on July 12, 2013, 11:34:04 AM
It's a fair point abour the beliefs themselves. However, the problems with scientology go way beyond that, although I suppose the scientologist could at least point to the catholic church's enabling and cover ups of paedophilia.
Title: Re: crazy beliefs
Post by: bennydorano on July 12, 2013, 12:04:47 PM
Believing in Alien life is ridiculed when it's pretty much a statistical certainty.
Title: Re: crazy beliefs
Post by: armaghniac on July 12, 2013, 12:10:14 PM

QuoteBelieving in Alien life is ridiculed when it's pretty much a statistical certainty.

As are alternative universes in which Mayo dominate and Kerry are trying to win their first AI for 60 years, and were the Orange Order is a moderate peaceful organisation.
Title: Re: crazy beliefs
Post by: seafoid on July 12, 2013, 12:36:04 PM
That technology will save the climate.
Title: Re: crazy beliefs
Post by: deiseach on July 12, 2013, 12:39:43 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on July 12, 2013, 12:04:47 PM
Believing in Alien life is ridiculed when it's pretty much a statistical certainty.

Life is one thing. Intelligent life? That's another story. Cue gags about the lack of it on Earth...
Title: Re: crazy beliefs
Post by: bennydorano on July 12, 2013, 12:53:10 PM
Still a certainty IMO. The size of the Universe and number of planets is hard to grasp. The way Religion is embraced & the possibility of  'Aliens' ridiculed is a joke.
Title: Re: crazy beliefs
Post by: armaghniac on July 12, 2013, 01:12:45 PM
It is one thing to believe there are aliens, another to believe that you've met one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation
Title: Re: crazy beliefs
Post by: HiMucker on July 12, 2013, 03:07:53 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on July 12, 2013, 12:53:10 PM
Still a certainty IMO. The size of the Universe and number of planets is hard to grasp. The way Religion is embraced & the possibility of  'Aliens' ridiculed is a joke.
Have to say Benny, I would have been of the same opinion as yourself.  However, after watching one of  Brian Cox wonders of the solar system episodes, it hit home how many unique variables in play that all have to happen at the one time to create a planet that can support and sustain life. Size of the star, age of the star, size of the planet, mass of the planet, shape etc etc etc.  He concluded that it could just as likely that we are alone in the universe.  Still think there is life out there, but it did take the wind out of my X files sail!
Title: Re: crazy beliefs
Post by: red hander on July 12, 2013, 04:17:41 PM
That the Irish News will can Marie Louise McCrory's Friday column
Title: Re: crazy beliefs
Post by: The Iceman on July 12, 2013, 05:07:53 PM
Quote from: firestarter on July 12, 2013, 09:17:19 AM
I was watching tv recently with a Catholic friend. When Tom cruise appeared he made a comment about Cruises 'crazy beliefs'. When i asked him how they were any more or less crazy in believing in a magical man who lived thousands of years ago who could walk on water & who rose from the dead he had no real answer other than it must be less insane because more people believe it...
What do you mean by Catholic?
Understands Church teaching, fully catechized, goes to Mass the odd weekend? Or do you both use the term loosely Like calling a man who eats spinach a vegetarian and asking him all about the Vegetarian lifestyle....?
More misrepresentation and more attacks on Religion. You boys should have been out burning bonfires last night with statues on them......
Title: Re: crazy beliefs
Post by: gallsman on July 12, 2013, 05:13:25 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on July 12, 2013, 05:07:53 PM
Quote from: firestarter on July 12, 2013, 09:17:19 AM
I was watching tv recently with a Catholic friend. When Tom cruise appeared he made a comment about Cruises 'crazy beliefs'. When i asked him how they were any more or less crazy in believing in a magical man who lived thousands of years ago who could walk on water & who rose from the dead he had no real answer other than it must be less insane because more people believe it...
What do you mean by Catholic?
Understands Church teaching, fully catechized, goes to Mass the odd weekend? Or do you both use the term loosely Like calling a man who eats spinach a vegetarian and asking him all about the Vegetarian lifestyle....?
More misrepresentation and more attacks on Religion. You boys should have been out burning bonfires last night with statues on them......

Where's the misrepresentation? You ask what he defines as Catholic, so you don't know what he's "misrepresenting" in the first place. Your insistence on being offended by any criticism of any form of organised religion (even ignoring the rank hypocrisy you've displayed over the years) is beyond boring at this stage.
Title: Re: crazy beliefs
Post by: The Iceman on July 12, 2013, 05:22:26 PM
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2013, 05:13:25 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on July 12, 2013, 05:07:53 PM
Quote from: firestarter on July 12, 2013, 09:17:19 AM
I was watching tv recently with a Catholic friend. When Tom cruise appeared he made a comment about Cruises 'crazy beliefs'. When i asked him how they were any more or less crazy in believing in a magical man who lived thousands of years ago who could walk on water & who rose from the dead he had no real answer other than it must be less insane because more people believe it...
What do you mean by Catholic?
Understands Church teaching, fully catechized, goes to Mass the odd weekend? Or do you both use the term loosely Like calling a man who eats spinach a vegetarian and asking him all about the Vegetarian lifestyle....?
More misrepresentation and more attacks on Religion. You boys should have been out burning bonfires last night with statues on them......

Where's the misrepresentation? You ask what he defines as Catholic, so you don't know what he's "misrepresenting" in the first place. Your insistence on being offended by any criticism of any form of organised religion (even ignoring the rank hypocrisy you've displayed over the years) is beyond boring at this stage.
then ignore it / me....
Hypocrisy? Because I'm not perfect? I never claimed to be. I'm one of the worst sinners - If I'm lucky I may get to purgatory but I have a lot of things to fix.

Tired too of all the religion topics, all the attacks. Its one thread after another. Bored boys so lets try to offend everyone again here....
Title: Re: crazy beliefs
Post by: Rois on July 12, 2013, 05:49:16 PM
Quote from: red hander on July 12, 2013, 04:17:41 PM
That the Irish News will can Marie Louise McCrory's Friday column

Complete sh1te today
Title: Re: crazy beliefs
Post by: gallsman on July 12, 2013, 05:49:27 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on July 12, 2013, 05:22:26 PM
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2013, 05:13:25 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on July 12, 2013, 05:07:53 PM
Quote from: firestarter on July 12, 2013, 09:17:19 AM
I was watching tv recently with a Catholic friend. When Tom cruise appeared he made a comment about Cruises 'crazy beliefs'. When i asked him how they were any more or less crazy in believing in a magical man who lived thousands of years ago who could walk on water & who rose from the dead he had no real answer other than it must be less insane because more people believe it...
What do you mean by Catholic?
Understands Church teaching, fully catechized, goes to Mass the odd weekend? Or do you both use the term loosely Like calling a man who eats spinach a vegetarian and asking him all about the Vegetarian lifestyle....?
More misrepresentation and more attacks on Religion. You boys should have been out burning bonfires last night with statues on them......

Where's the misrepresentation? You ask what he defines as Catholic, so you don't know what he's "misrepresenting" in the first place. Your insistence on being offended by any criticism of any form of organised religion (even ignoring the rank hypocrisy you've displayed over the years) is beyond boring at this stage.
then ignore it / me....
Hypocrisy? Because I'm not perfect? I never claimed to be. I'm one of the worst sinners - If I'm lucky I may get to purgatory but I have a lot of things to fix.

Tired too of all the religion topics, all the attacks. Its one thread after another. Bored boys so lets try to offend everyone again here....

Then put your own advice to good use - ignore it.
Title: Re: crazy beliefs
Post by: J70 on July 12, 2013, 06:07:37 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on July 12, 2013, 05:22:26 PM
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2013, 05:13:25 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on July 12, 2013, 05:07:53 PM
Quote from: firestarter on July 12, 2013, 09:17:19 AM
I was watching tv recently with a Catholic friend. When Tom cruise appeared he made a comment about Cruises 'crazy beliefs'. When i asked him how they were any more or less crazy in believing in a magical man who lived thousands of years ago who could walk on water & who rose from the dead he had no real answer other than it must be less insane because more people believe it...
What do you mean by Catholic?
Understands Church teaching, fully catechized, goes to Mass the odd weekend? Or do you both use the term loosely Like calling a man who eats spinach a vegetarian and asking him all about the Vegetarian lifestyle....?
More misrepresentation and more attacks on Religion. You boys should have been out burning bonfires last night with statues on them......

Where's the misrepresentation? You ask what he defines as Catholic, so you don't know what he's "misrepresenting" in the first place. Your insistence on being offended by any criticism of any form of organised religion (even ignoring the rank hypocrisy you've displayed over the years) is beyond boring at this stage.
then ignore it / me....
Hypocrisy? Because I'm not perfect? I never claimed to be. I'm one of the worst sinners - If I'm lucky I may get to purgatory but I have a lot of things to fix.

Tired too of all the religion topics, all the attacks. Its one thread after another. Bored boys so lets try to offend everyone again here....

Why are you contributing to a thread that annoys you?

The membership here is not static. People leave, new people join. Maybe this lad with 44 posts Is new and WANTS to talk about religion. Just because you don't want to discuss it doesn't mean the subject should be closed.
Title: Re: crazy beliefs
Post by: muppet on July 12, 2013, 06:49:15 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on July 12, 2013, 05:22:26 PM
Quote from: gallsman on July 12, 2013, 05:13:25 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on July 12, 2013, 05:07:53 PM
Quote from: firestarter on July 12, 2013, 09:17:19 AM
I was watching tv recently with a Catholic friend. When Tom cruise appeared he made a comment about Cruises 'crazy beliefs'. When i asked him how they were any more or less crazy in believing in a magical man who lived thousands of years ago who could walk on water & who rose from the dead he had no real answer other than it must be less insane because more people believe it...
What do you mean by Catholic?
Understands Church teaching, fully catechized, goes to Mass the odd weekend? Or do you both use the term loosely Like calling a man who eats spinach a vegetarian and asking him all about the Vegetarian lifestyle....?
More misrepresentation and more attacks on Religion. You boys should have been out burning bonfires last night with statues on them......

Where's the misrepresentation? You ask what he defines as Catholic, so you don't know what he's "misrepresenting" in the first place. Your insistence on being offended by any criticism of any form of organised religion (even ignoring the rank hypocrisy you've displayed over the years) is beyond boring at this stage.
then ignore it / me....
Hypocrisy? Because I'm not perfect? I never claimed to be. I'm one of the worst sinners - If I'm lucky I may get to purgatory but I have a lot of things to fix.

Tired too of all the religion topics, all the attacks. Its one thread after another. Bored boys so lets try to offend everyone again here....

We realise that we are not worthy of your definition Catholicism. But of course you are the offended one.

Title: Re: crazy beliefs
Post by: red hander on July 12, 2013, 10:02:31 PM
Quote from: Rois on July 12, 2013, 05:49:16 PM
Quote from: red hander on July 12, 2013, 04:17:41 PM
That the Irish News will can Marie Louise McCrory's Friday column

Complete sh1te today

As opposed to other days?  :P
Title: Re: crazy beliefs
Post by: firestarter on July 13, 2013, 11:04:15 PM
Burning bonfires with statues on them??  was i not defending someones beliefs? How can u compare stating that 1 religous belief is as legitimate as the next with a hateful act like that?