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Title: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: T Fearon on May 10, 2013, 09:51:19 PM
Boycotting a conference Sinn Fein organised for Belfast all because John O'Dowd said "so what" to Danny Kennedy on tv last night?
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: lawnseed on May 10, 2013, 10:04:44 PM
so what?.. ;)
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2013, 11:33:39 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 10, 2013, 09:51:19 PM
Boycotting a conference Sinn Fein organised for Belfast all because John O'Dowd said "so what" to Danny Kennedy on tv last night?

These Ranger fans, tut tut

Parliamentary speak for "so what" is what?
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: Count 10 on May 11, 2013, 04:33:46 AM
He is in with a great chance of taking Willie Frazer's title of Village Idiot, mind you wee Sammy is in with a shout also.
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: T Fearon on May 11, 2013, 08:39:55 AM
Must be the most petty excuse ever not to engage and that's saying something.
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: Tonto on May 11, 2013, 09:04:49 AM
Hold on.

The UUP, Alliance and the SDLP are the PARTNERS IN GOVERNMENT of Sinn Fein and the DUP. 

The 'so what' wasn't in relation to the sacking of a nurse or the putting up of a few flegs by Sammy, it was about a hugely important policy announcement which is going to cost the taxpayer half a BILLION quid!

Saying 'so what' might only be a phrase that people use day to day, but it betrays a huge lack of respect in the Executive and is certainly something SF should distance itself from.  After all, 50% of the population voted for the other parties.  Show a lack of respect for their elected representatives and you show a lack of respect to the people too.
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: T Fearon on May 11, 2013, 09:07:38 AM
Yes.But if unionists could devise a system (which thankfully they can't) which would exclude Sinn Fein from the Executive altogether they would.Give Respect Get Respect.
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: Tonto on May 11, 2013, 09:09:15 AM
You do realise that SFs senior partner in government are a unionist party?

And anyway, it showed a lack of respect for the SDLP and Alliance too.
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: T Fearon on May 11, 2013, 09:22:31 AM
They are hardly willing partners.Anyway political parties showing disrespect for rivals,that's a novelty ::)
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: Tonto on May 11, 2013, 09:30:33 AM
At election time, yes rivals.  In government, supposed partners. 

SF and the DUP are not the only parties in government.  Making key policy decisions without the other governing parties is undemocratic and does little for relations within the Executive.

"Be careful how you treat people on your way up as you will meet them on your way back down".
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: JUst retired on May 11, 2013, 11:09:34 AM
Tonto,have unionist parties ever shown any respect to minority parties?Mike Nesbitt is a complete  and utter clown. Suck it up as they say.
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: Tonto on May 11, 2013, 11:15:23 AM
So this is the shared future.  Sign me up.

Can't be bothered with this argument.  If you don't have the mental faculties to comprehend why other parties feel sidelined by the DUP and SF in the apparently power-sharing executive, then there is no point in debate.

Jim Allister is the only one pleased with what O'Dowd said I would think.
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: JUst retired on May 11, 2013, 11:24:05 AM
Jim Allister ,who I dont agree with is honest if nothing else. Can the rest say that?
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: glens abu on May 11, 2013, 07:44:05 PM
Ha ha when Elliot called SF scum it was sure its only Tom,now that clown of a leader is boycotting because of a so what.Get real
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: lawnseed on May 11, 2013, 07:51:08 PM
tonto i remember uup members telling the leaders of the womens coalition to "go way home and do the dishes"
now they can suck it up
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: Tonto on May 12, 2013, 11:17:10 AM
Quote from: glens abu on May 11, 2013, 07:44:05 PM
Ha ha when Elliot called SF scum it was sure its only Tom,now that clown of a leader is boycotting because of a so what.Get real
Memory of the incident is a bit hazy, but if I remember rightly he was getting jeered by some SF supporters who he called the "scum of SF". Not right, but equally not the same as calling SF as a party "scum" (not to say that isn't what he truly thinks btw  ;))
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: Tonto on May 12, 2013, 11:19:02 AM
Twice the phrase "suck it up" has been used.  Well, I am not a UUP member so am not in the position to suck anything; although I would like to thank you for the offer.

Is "suck it up" Sinn Fein's new "Ireland of equals"?

Everyday, the mask slips a little more.
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: Maguire01 on May 12, 2013, 12:18:48 PM
The 'Ireland of Equals' is as genuine as Peter Robinson's talk of reaching out to Catholics.
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: Rawhide on May 12, 2013, 01:11:26 PM
'So what' accurately explains how unimportant the UUP are within the process of government in the North. The only way Nesbitt and his party are noticed is by either promoting sectarian politics i.e. the flags debacle or stunts like this. A fine contribution.
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on May 12, 2013, 01:52:58 PM
Quote from: Tonto on May 12, 2013, 11:19:02 AM
Twice the phrase "suck it up" has been used.  Well, I am not a UUP member so am not in the position to suck anything; although I would like to thank you for the offer.

Is "suck it up" Sinn Fein's new "Ireland of equals"?

Everyday, the mask slips a little more.

I saw that "suck it up" comment and knew straight away it must have been said by Lawnseed. Checked page 1 and of course I was correct. Lawnseed has a Stalinist vision of the future for the population of the current 26 counties. He uses that phrase towards the people of the Republic all the time. It sounds like the lawnseed element of the SF support wish to exert some revenge on a population they percieve as not being the SF interpretation of an Irish person or the SF interpretation of a republican.
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: muppet on May 12, 2013, 02:41:15 PM
Mike Nesbitt is a name that gives some interesting anagrams:

Bee Minks Tit
Bike Men Tits
Bite me stink
Its Bent Mike
Bin meek tits
Be Me Stink It
I bents me kit
I bet me stink
I bits me kent

Which is the best?
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: Orior on May 12, 2013, 02:43:37 PM
I bet me stink.

Which anagram site did you use boyo?
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: muppet on May 12, 2013, 02:50:05 PM
Quote from: Orior on May 12, 2013, 02:43:37 PM
I bet me stink.

Which anagram site did you use boyo?

Lunacy toilet
Ciao Ell Nutty
You Talc Inlet
I cant tell you (oops!)
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 12, 2013, 03:13:15 PM
He was good in Cold Feet in fairness.
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: Hardy on May 12, 2013, 03:31:42 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on May 12, 2013, 01:52:58 PM
Quote from: Tonto on May 12, 2013, 11:19:02 AM
Twice the phrase "suck it up" has been used.  Well, I am not a UUP member so am not in the position to suck anything; although I would like to thank you for the offer.

Is "suck it up" Sinn Fein's new "Ireland of equals"?

Everyday, the mask slips a little more.

I saw that "suck it up" comment and knew straight away it must have been said by Lawnseed. Checked page 1 and of course I was correct. Lawnseed has a Stalinist vision of the future for the population of the current 26 counties. He uses that phrase towards the people of the Republic all the time. It sounds like the lawnseed element of the SF support wish to exert some revenge on a population they percieve as not being the SF interpretation of an Irish person or the SF interpretation of a republican.

It's called "reaching out". Official SF policy.
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: Minder on May 12, 2013, 03:49:48 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on May 12, 2013, 01:11:26 PM
'So what' accurately explains how unimportant the UUP are within the process of government in the North. The only way Nesbitt and his party are noticed is by either promoting sectarian politics i.e. the flags debacle or stunts like this. A fine contribution.

Any different to the DUP?
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: AQMP on May 12, 2013, 07:07:32 PM
It's getting a bit stormy in that tea cup.
Title: Re: Mike Nesbitt is he for real?
Post by: JUst retired on May 12, 2013, 07:35:58 PM
 maygodhelpus,please check again as to who said suck it up. It was not lawnseed,I dont wish to have the blame put on someone in the wrong. I said it first. I am not  a spokesman for Sinn Fein or indeed any party. It is an American phrase. the meaning of it is If you dont like it tough.