this came up in a discussion with a couple of my orangey workmates about a week ago when i heard the armagh celebration was to be held in newtownhamilton south armagh. for those who don't know newtown is a narrow street where one car badly parked can bring the 'town' to a standstill. theres nothing to cater for a crowd of 100 never mind all of the armagh orange order. neither of the lads seemed too impressed with the venue.
i suggested the long kesh/maze site for a mega twelfth celebration where all the orangeys could meet up and have a real orange fest. hundreds of bands, hundreds of lodges, hundreds of chipvans/icecreamvans, funfairs, praying, bonnys.. and beer- barrels of the stuff.
it would be cheaper and less hassle for the ni executive to part fund this idea than to police hundreds of marches all over the place. the site is 350 acres well serviced by road and rail and bus. it would take some planning but could it work?
This has to be a wind up!
You work?
No.That's a Shrine to Terrorism.Hold ia at the Athletic Grounds in Armagh,after all if we can tolerate Nathan Carter we can tolerate anyone!
Will never work unless there are some Catholics living nearby
What really scuppers the suggestion is the name in the title." Co Armagh demonstration" has to be in Co Armagh.
Quote from: T Fearon on May 04, 2013, 11:09:52 PM
What really scuppers the suggestion is the name in the title." Co Armagh demonstration" has to be in Co Armagh.
Kiwilkie then.
Quote from: Hereiam on May 04, 2013, 10:59:46 PM
Will never work unless there are some Catholics living nearby
do they have to be real catholics? could we get a few foreigners to stand-in? gintas and darius perhaps could be a great hit sham intimidation..
oh i expect it to be a bad summer with alot of confrontations, these f**kers have been gearing up since the flags trouble at christmas. expect alot of dup giving out out about roads blocked in certain areas as alot of residents groups would have taken note of the lack of police action earlier in the yr.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 04, 2013, 11:32:28 PM
oh i expect it to be a bad summer with alot of confrontations, these f**kers have been gearing up since the flags trouble at christmas. expect alot of dup giving out out about roads blocked in certain areas as alot of residents groups would have taken note of the lack of police action earlier in the yr.
it might be a bad summer but there'll be two great days when the sun will shine.. 8) further proof that god is a bowler hat wearing, sash donning, drum beating orangeman ;)
Quote from: lawnseed on May 04, 2013, 11:44:44 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 04, 2013, 11:32:28 PM
oh i expect it to be a bad summer with alot of confrontations, these f**kers have been gearing up since the flags trouble at christmas. expect alot of dup giving out out about roads blocked in certain areas as alot of residents groups would have taken note of the lack of police action earlier in the yr.
it might be a bad summer but there'll be two great days when the sun will shine.. 8) further proof that god is a bowler hat wearing, sash donning, drum beating orangeman ;)
Leave me alone !
The Mother tells me I was due the 12th but I waited till the 13th to come out. Says I wouldn't give the Organgemen the satisfaction. Beat that one, lads.
Quote from: Syferus on May 04, 2013, 11:58:04 PM
The Mother tells me I was due the 12th but I waited till the 13th to come out. Says I wouldn't give the Organgemen the satisfaction. Beat that one, lads.
oh well here goes... so you gave a blackman satisfaction instead ::)
Quote from: Syferus on May 04, 2013, 11:58:04 PM
The Mother tells me I was due the 12th but I waited till the 13th to come out. Says I wouldn't give the Organgemen the satisfaction. Beat that one, lads.
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I held on til the 14th due on the 12th] - and they would have named me billy !!
I have one theory for the 12th - rather than avoid and protest on the parades, the republican community should embrace and actually join in as such, stand and smile and look like you are really enjoying the colour, music and atmosphere ( all through gritted teeth of course).
Confuse them, may take a few years but when they realise they aren't pissing anyone off (dumb as they are) they'll just get fed up doing it and it will fall apart.
Or ignore them completely.
Quote from: lawnseed on May 04, 2013, 10:06:56 PM
this came up in a discussion with a couple of my orangey workmates about a week ago when i heard the armagh celebration was to be held in newtownhamilton south armagh. for those who don't know newtown is a narrow street where one car badly parked can bring the 'town' to a standstill. theres nothing to cater for a crowd of 100 never mind all of the armagh orange order. neither of the lads seemed too impressed with the venue.
i suggested the long kesh/maze site for a mega twelfth celebration where all the orangeys could meet up and have a real orange fest. hundreds of bands, hundreds of lodges, hundreds of chipvans/icecreamvans, funfairs, praying, bonnys.. and beer- barrels of the stuff.
it would be cheaper and less hassle for the ni executive to part fund this idea than to police hundreds of marches all over the place. the site is 350 acres well serviced by road and rail and bus. it would take some planning but could it work?
Well services by rail? Since when?
Get off the train at Moira.Sure it's only a five mile march from there to the Shrine of Terrorism
Quote from: Bingo on May 05, 2013, 07:03:16 AM
I have one theory for the 12th - rather than avoid and protest on the parades, the republican community should embrace and actually join in as such, stand and smile and look like you are really enjoying the colour, music and atmosphere ( all through gritted teeth of course).
Confuse them, may take a few years but when they realise they aren't pissing anyone off (dumb as they are) they'll just get fed up doing it and it will fall apart.
I've been suggesting this for years.
The parade commission should make it mandatory ( not sure how) that parades from both side should
Include minimum 10% participation from ' the other side'!!
For clarity, this is an ordinary Twelfth
and this is a mega Twelfth
Only day of the year i hope for rain, nearly rains ever other day in the summer these days but keeps missing that particular date, God what u at?
Well for those who want the hospital wing of the H block demolished having the 12th on site would be the quickest way of going about it.
This could be Willie Frasers Fisrt point on his manifesto for his new political party.
Quote from: camanchero on May 05, 2013, 05:58:09 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 05, 2013, 07:03:16 AM
I have one theory for the 12th - rather than avoid and protest on the parades, the republican community should embrace and actually join in as such, stand and smile and look like you are really enjoying the colour, music and atmosphere ( all through gritted teeth of course).
Confuse them, may take a few years but when they realise they aren't pissing anyone off (dumb as they are) they'll just get fed up doing it and it will fall apart.
I've been suggesting this for years.
The parade commission should make it mandatory ( not sure how) that parades from both side should
Include minimum 10% participation from ' the other side'!!
Maybe that's why they insist on going through the likes of Ardoyne!
Quote from: Maguire01 on May 05, 2013, 11:50:29 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on May 04, 2013, 10:06:56 PM
this came up in a discussion with a couple of my orangey workmates about a week ago when i heard the armagh celebration was to be held in newtownhamilton south armagh. for those who don't know newtown is a narrow street where one car badly parked can bring the 'town' to a standstill. theres nothing to cater for a crowd of 100 never mind all of the armagh orange order. neither of the lads seemed too impressed with the venue.
i suggested the long kesh/maze site for a mega twelfth celebration where all the orangeys could meet up and have a real orange fest. hundreds of bands, hundreds of lodges, hundreds of chipvans/icecreamvans, funfairs, praying, bonnys.. and beer- barrels of the stuff.
it would be cheaper and less hassle for the ni executive to part fund this idea than to police hundreds of marches all over the place. the site is 350 acres well serviced by road and rail and bus. it would take some planning but could it work?
Well services by rail? Since when?
the railway runs right past it and has done for over a hundred years. the motorway also runs past it you may have noticed. i know this motorway lark doesnt sit well with many stoops since they havent managed to get speed bumps on to it yet but even at 60mph if you look north east from your vehicle from the m1 you'll see the kesh.
look this was only an idea thrown up in banter between workmates. the site as has already been stated in numerous threads is central, level, and doesnt require huge utility/access development and is a blank canvas and untried. personally i think a mega twelfth there following a sort of feile or orangefest theme like an orangelastonbury with all the things that interest orangemen/women/families could be a big hit and could help orangism shake off this confrontational mode that will eventually be its downfall. they are not going to do what we tell them to do but they do respond to financial incentives. perhaps a juicy carrot like 1.5million in funding toward the festival and some enthusiastic rhetoric from their leaders could help our marching problem. anyhow we are about to see what the usefulness of the place is in a couple of weeks when the balmoral show is held there.
obviously the lodges will still want to have their little parades through the towns/villages where they're from.
Quote from: lawnseed on May 06, 2013, 09:05:29 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on May 05, 2013, 11:50:29 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on May 04, 2013, 10:06:56 PM
this came up in a discussion with a couple of my orangey workmates about a week ago when i heard the armagh celebration was to be held in newtownhamilton south armagh. for those who don't know newtown is a narrow street where one car badly parked can bring the 'town' to a standstill. theres nothing to cater for a crowd of 100 never mind all of the armagh orange order. neither of the lads seemed too impressed with the venue.
i suggested the long kesh/maze site for a mega twelfth celebration where all the orangeys could meet up and have a real orange fest. hundreds of bands, hundreds of lodges, hundreds of chipvans/icecreamvans, funfairs, praying, bonnys.. and beer- barrels of the stuff.
it would be cheaper and less hassle for the ni executive to part fund this idea than to police hundreds of marches all over the place. the site is 350 acres well serviced by road and rail and bus. it would take some planning but could it work?
Well services by rail? Since when?
the railway runs right past it and has done for over a hundred years. the motorway also runs past it you may have noticed. i know this motorway lark doesnt sit well with many stoops since they havent managed to get speed bumps on to it yet but even at 60mph if you look north east from your vehicle from the m1 you'll see the kesh.
The railway is about a kilometer away 'as the crow flies'. The 'masterplan' for when the stadium was proposed referred to a rail link into the site. That's not in place now.
I never mentioned the motorway. I know exactly where the site is.
Since it all started with the Armagh celebrations, can't we GAA Armagh heads have a counter celebration for all things orange on the same date and see who walks out alive. 2 birds one lovely sharp michaèl, I mean stone?
Quote from: Hereiam on May 04, 2013, 10:59:46 PM
Will never work unless there are some Catholics living nearby
There aren't too many Fenians living around half-town. :)
Quote from: Syferus on May 04, 2013, 11:58:04 PM
The Mother tells me I was due the 12th but I waited till the 13th to come out. Says I wouldn't give the Organgemen the satisfaction. Beat that one, lads.
My birthday's the 3rd December.
The whole flag thing kicked off on the 3rd December last year.
Quote from: Maguire01 on May 06, 2013, 11:31:19 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on May 06, 2013, 09:05:29 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on May 05, 2013, 11:50:29 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on May 04, 2013, 10:06:56 PM
this came up in a discussion with a couple of my orangey workmates about a week ago when i heard the armagh celebration was to be held in newtownhamilton south armagh. for those who don't know newtown is a narrow street where one car badly parked can bring the 'town' to a standstill. theres nothing to cater for a crowd of 100 never mind all of the armagh orange order. neither of the lads seemed too impressed with the venue.
i suggested the long kesh/maze site for a mega twelfth celebration where all the orangeys could meet up and have a real orange fest. hundreds of bands, hundreds of lodges, hundreds of chipvans/icecreamvans, funfairs, praying, bonnys.. and beer- barrels of the stuff.
it would be cheaper and less hassle for the ni executive to part fund this idea than to police hundreds of marches all over the place. the site is 350 acres well serviced by road and rail and bus. it would take some planning but could it work?
Well services by rail? Since when?
the railway runs right past it and has done for over a hundred years. the motorway also runs past it you may have noticed. i know this motorway lark doesnt sit well with many stoops since they havent managed to get speed bumps on to it yet but even at 60mph if you look north east from your vehicle from the m1 you'll see the kesh.
The railway is about a kilometer away 'as the crow flies'. The 'masterplan' for when the stadium was proposed referred to a rail link into the site. That's not in place now.
I never mentioned the motorway. I know exactly where the site is.
its 600ms away i clocked it today. theres plenty of room for a platform to be put in place to allow passengers to disembark and walk/march to the site
Every last one of them orange c***ts could march straight into lough neagh, now that would be a mega twelfth.
Quote from: lawnseed on May 04, 2013, 11:44:44 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 04, 2013, 11:32:28 PM
oh i expect it to be a bad summer with alot of confrontations, these f**kers have been gearing up since the flags trouble at christmas. expect alot of dup giving out out about roads blocked in certain areas as alot of residents groups would have taken note of the lack of police action earlier in the yr.
it might be a bad summer but there'll be two great days when the sun will shine.. 8) further proof that god is a bowler hat wearing, sash donning, drum beating orangeman ;)
Bollocks, it will snow on the twisted fcukers this year, I hope they freeze and get soaked and that if they break the law the psni hammer the shit out of them.
a couple of predictable posts there concerning the mega twelfth.. get this into your heads lads. we are here to stay and so are the orangemen. when this struggle ends there will still be orangemen marching on the twelfth. what we make of this holiday is up to us. we can try to make the activities of these folk a little more palatable by encouraging our orange neighbours to take their celebrations to a great site off the public road where they can kick up their heels (or the pope) or whatever they want to do or we can do what we do now... destroy where we live annually and suffer the ill feeling that goes with it.
I quite enjoy 2 days off in July.
Quote from: Maguire01 on May 09, 2013, 08:51:06 PM
I quite enjoy 2 days off in July.
a week would be better ;)
Quote from: lawnseed on May 09, 2013, 08:26:59 PM
a couple of predictable posts there concerning the mega twelfth.. get this into your heads lads. we are here to stay and so are the orangemen. when this struggle ends there will still be orangemen marching on the twelfth. what we make of this holiday is up to us. we can try to make the activities of these folk a little more palatable by encouraging our orange neighbours to take their celebrations to a great site off the public road where they can kick up their heels (or the pope) or whatever they want to do or we can do what we do now... destroy where we live annually and suffer the ill feeling that goes with it.
I lived through all their shite, their arrogance and their ignorance, I just give a shite about anything being palatable for them, i hope they are pissed off about not being able to march down certain streets, roads being blocked by their peelers, in short I hope the feckers are miserable during marching, I don't want them to drown in a lough however, that is a tad strong for me. :)
Quote from: stew on May 09, 2013, 09:54:13 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on May 09, 2013, 08:26:59 PM
a couple of predictable posts there concerning the mega twelfth.. get this into your heads lads. we are here to stay and so are the orangemen. when this struggle ends there will still be orangemen marching on the twelfth. what we make of this holiday is up to us. we can try to make the activities of these folk a little more palatable by encouraging our orange neighbours to take their celebrations to a great site off the public road where they can kick up their heels (or the pope) or whatever they want to do or we can do what we do now... destroy where we live annually and suffer the ill feeling that goes with it.
I lived through all their shite, their arrogance and their ignorance, I just give a shite about anything being palatable for them, i hope they are pissed off about not being able to march down certain streets, roads being blocked by their peelers, in short I hope the feckers are miserable during marching, I don't want them to drown in a lough however, that is a tad strong for me. :)
you havent commented on the idea of mega twelfth at the maze site, could you warm to the idea of them having a good time in the comfort of a properly organised orangefest
Quote from: Maguire01 on May 06, 2013, 11:31:19 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on May 06, 2013, 09:05:29 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on May 05, 2013, 11:50:29 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on May 04, 2013, 10:06:56 PM
this came up in a discussion with a couple of my orangey workmates about a week ago when i heard the armagh celebration was to be held in newtownhamilton south armagh. for those who don't know newtown is a narrow street where one car badly parked can bring the 'town' to a standstill. theres nothing to cater for a crowd of 100 never mind all of the armagh orange order. neither of the lads seemed too impressed with the venue.
i suggested the long kesh/maze site for a mega twelfth celebration where all the orangeys could meet up and have a real orange fest. hundreds of bands, hundreds of lodges, hundreds of chipvans/icecreamvans, funfairs, praying, bonnys.. and beer- barrels of the stuff.
it would be cheaper and less hassle for the ni executive to part fund this idea than to police hundreds of marches all over the place. the site is 350 acres well serviced by road and rail and bus. it would take some planning but could it work?
Well services by rail? Since when?
the railway runs right past it and has done for over a hundred years. the motorway also runs past it you may have noticed. i know this motorway lark doesnt sit well with many stoops since they havent managed to get speed bumps on to it yet but even at 60mph if you look north east from your vehicle from the m1 you'll see the kesh.
The railway is about a kilometer away 'as the crow flies'. The 'masterplan' for when the stadium was proposed referred to a rail link into the site. That's not in place now.
I never mentioned the motorway. I know exactly where the site is.
The railway runs right past all 3 airports and they can't manage to put stations in place for those.
I was in Markethill for the first time on Saturday as I was looking for a fridge dishwasher etc for the new house and Dazzells was mentioned to me.
I can tell you now I will take my money else where.
The amount of flags was unreal. I just couldn't wait to get out of the place as it just made me and the wife feel uneasy. I will take my business elsewhere as this town just doesn't deserve my money.
Aye go on into Portadown!
I argue for one twelfth, to be called 0.083333333 to make it more inclusive.
Quote from: Hereiam on May 13, 2013, 10:59:01 AM
I was in Markethill for the first time on Saturday as I was looking for a fridge dishwasher etc for the new house and Dazzells was mentioned to me.
I can tell you now I will take my money else where.
The amount of flags was unreal. I just couldn't wait to get out of the place as it just made me and the wife feel uneasy. I will take my business elsewhere as this town just doesn't deserve my money.
jp electrics in keady supplies dalzells so he should be able to sort you out
Quote from: lawnseed on May 09, 2013, 10:08:50 PM
Quote from: stew on May 09, 2013, 09:54:13 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on May 09, 2013, 08:26:59 PM
a couple of predictable posts there concerning the mega twelfth.. get this into your heads lads. we are here to stay and so are the orangemen. when this struggle ends there will still be orangemen marching on the twelfth. what we make of this holiday is up to us. we can try to make the activities of these folk a little more palatable by encouraging our orange neighbours to take their celebrations to a great site off the public road where they can kick up their heels (or the pope) or whatever they want to do or we can do what we do now... destroy where we live annually and suffer the ill feeling that goes with it.
I lived through all their shite, their arrogance and their ignorance, I just give a shite about anything being palatable for them, i hope they are pissed off about not being able to march down certain streets, roads being blocked by their peelers, in short I hope the feckers are miserable during marching, I don't want them to drown in a lough however, that is a tad strong for me. :)
you havent commented on the idea of mega twelfth at the maze site, could you warm to the idea of them having a good time in the comfort of a properly organised orangefest
If it stops people from living in fear and people getting hurt then I am all for it, I just never wanted to see them or hear them because I had no use for them.
What would be the point in having a mega 'twelf' out at the maze, you can't annoy the shit out of anyone out there?
Would you still get to march past Ardoyne and the likes?
Do Ballynafeigh get to march down past the Lower Ormeau still or is that hit on the head?
They'll p*ss all over it, dig it up...find the spot that housed republicans and mock it. No real change then !?
Quote from: stew on May 14, 2013, 05:16:25 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on May 09, 2013, 10:08:50 PM
Quote from: stew on May 09, 2013, 09:54:13 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on May 09, 2013, 08:26:59 PM
a couple of predictable posts there concerning the mega twelfth.. get this into your heads lads. we are here to stay and so are the orangemen. when this struggle ends there will still be orangemen marching on the twelfth. what we make of this holiday is up to us. we can try to make the activities of these folk a little more palatable by encouraging our orange neighbours to take their celebrations to a great site off the public road where they can kick up their heels (or the pope) or whatever they want to do or we can do what we do now... destroy where we live annually and suffer the ill feeling that goes with it.
I lived through all their shite, their arrogance and their ignorance, I just give a shite about anything being palatable for them, i hope they are pissed off about not being able to march down certain streets, roads being blocked by their peelers, in short I hope the feckers are miserable during marching, I don't want them to drown in a lough however, that is a tad strong for me. :)
you havent commented on the idea of mega twelfth at the maze site, could you warm to the idea of them having a good time in the comfort of a properly organised orangefest
If it stops people from living in fear and people getting hurt then I am all for it, I just never wanted to see them or hear them because I had no use for them.
that was the idea. get them out of the streets and somewhere where they can go mad without doing any harm
I think they only go to the bridge on ormeau road johnney. Sure they have donegall street where they can keep breaching conditions and get through now.
traffic problems at the balmoral show dont bode well for this idea. more work needed on accessing the site
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 14, 2013, 11:22:16 PM
I think they only go to the bridge on ormeau road johnney. Sure they have donegall street where they can keep breaching conditions and get through now.
Prosecutions are pending no doubt ::)
They could always ask for an alternative venue,like they did in Belfast today!
gerry kelly has been getting txts all day asking for the best way out of there
Quote from: lawnseed on May 16, 2013, 08:35:00 PM
traffic problems at the balmoral show dont bode well for this idea. more work needed on accessing the site
It's the Long Kesh show now.
Well that's what I'm calling it.
ahh.. look at the great time they'd have if only they listen to lawnseed.. 365 acres of fun and frolics at the maze... beer and food laid on by the taxpayer.. bands galore.. amusements.. maybe wet wet wet- they love marty pillow and he can sing for a hun. i'd say the budget would stretch to a few taigs they could march past and for the right money they'd pretend to get annoyed.. maybe next year.. they say we're young and we don't know.. I can hear the alarm clock.. I can see ground hog..