So go on then, quit the game, quit ur fancy job with Down, get out of the media. And if walsh is so peeved of, then let him quit GAA too!
I know this is mentioned in the sigerson thread, but i think yapping needs a thread of its own. Just the same as the way harte and loads of county
managers moan about rule changes and stomp their feet.
I'm also reading mick o dywers book at the moment from 5 years ago. It should be a gread read considering the life he has had in GAA, but the
amount of chip on the shoulder moaning about the 'powers that be' in the GAA is unreal. Sickners!
Both Walsh and Boyle fell foul of the new requirements, which limit the courses players can take and also the number of years they can play in third-level competitions.
"We were surprised and disappointed," said the DCU manager of the ruling from the Dispute Resolution Authority.
"Aidan Walsh made a decision three years ago that he was going to drop out of a course and retrospectively they have imposed a ban on him playing collegiate football.
"It's disappointing in a number of ways. That man is going out to teach physical education and I certainly won't be encouraging him to promote Gaelic games and I mean that. In my classes from now on, I have no intention of promoting Gaelic games.
"The retrospective application of the rule really annoys us. They were saying the rule was enacted maybe a year or two ago. But (Walsh and Boyle) still made their decisions three or four years ago."
The Monaghan man added: "Michael Murphy is going to be a PE teacher and so are Paul Flynn and Aidan. Why should they promote Gaelic games if that is they way they are going to be treated?
"Michael was disgusted. After the meeting he said that, if there was ever an excuse to give up Gaelic games, that was certainly it."
While the first half was competitive, DCU never looked like relinquishing their crown in St Clare's yesterday.
Quote from: Orchardman on February 07, 2013, 06:20:42 PM
So go on then, quit the game, quit ur fancy job with Down, get out of the media. And if walsh is so peeved of, then let him quit GAA too!
I know this is mentioned in the sigerson thread, but i think yapping needs a thread of its own. Just the same as the way harte and loads of county
managers moan about rule changes and stomp their feet.
I'm also reading mick o dywers book at the moment from 5 years ago. It should be a gread read considering the life he has had in GAA, but the
amount of chip on the shoulder moaning about the 'powers that be' in the GAA is unreal. Sickners!
Both Walsh and Boyle fell foul of the new requirements, which limit the courses players can take and also the number of years they can play in third-level competitions.
"We were surprised and disappointed," said the DCU manager of the ruling from the Dispute Resolution Authority.
"Aidan Walsh made a decision three years ago that he was going to drop out of a course and retrospectively they have imposed a ban on him playing collegiate football.
"It's disappointing in a number of ways. That man is going out to teach physical education and I certainly won't be encouraging him to promote Gaelic games and I mean that. In my classes from now on, I have no intention of promoting Gaelic games.
"The retrospective application of the rule really annoys us. They were saying the rule was enacted maybe a year or two ago. But (Walsh and Boyle) still made their decisions three or four years ago."
The Monaghan man added: "Michael Murphy is going to be a PE teacher and so are Paul Flynn and Aidan. Why should they promote Gaelic games if that is they way they are going to be treated?
"Michael was disgusted. After the meeting he said that, if there was ever an excuse to give up Gaelic games, that was certainly it."
While the first half was competitive, DCU never looked like relinquishing their crown in St Clare's yesterday.
Maybe because it will be their job?
As I said in Sigerson thread, Moyna has developed a poor reputation over the last few years. He's an ego maniac, not a gaa man. It's all about him.
the real story for me is that he has failed to uphold his duty to protect his student's confidentiality and privacy. don't know what data protection law is like in ireland, or if there is any, but employers sack staff for doing that here in the uk. gross misconduct.
Quote from: ck on February 07, 2013, 06:59:03 PM
As I said in Sigerson thread, Moyna has developed a poor reputation over the last few years. He's an ego maniac, not a gaa man. It's all about him.
I'm sure he has a great ego but so do the Micko's and Cody's of the world. You don't have to be liked to be very good at what you do and clearly Moyna is a talented sports scientist and has a good eye for talent on the field, indeed having an ego and a personal aura tend to go hand in hand with top-level 'GAA men'.
I have to imagine when he reflects on what he's said he'll be regretting putting it as strongly as he did.
Ah c'mon Syferus. When have you ever heard Cody or Micko saying anything as daft as they are going to stop promoting the GAA? Who does Moyna think he is. He clearly sees himself in a very flattering light if he thinks anyone gives two shites if he promotes the GAA or not. The GAA is bigger than any team, any college, any man. Moyna is full of his own importance, and full of shite.
Quote from: cadence on February 07, 2013, 08:53:03 PM
the real story for me is that he has failed to uphold his duty to protect his student's confidentiality and privacy. don't know what data protection law is like in ireland, or if there is any, but employers sack staff for doing that here in the uk. gross misconduct.
That's what stood out for me also in the article. Would hate for any manager I dealt with quoting me to the media to build his case. Wonder is Murphy that upset about it at all ?
Not a fan of the whole DCU operation to be honest.
Quote from: ck on February 08, 2013, 12:00:17 AM
Ah c'mon Syferus. When have you ever heard Cody or Micko saying anything as daft as they are going to stop promoting the GAA? Who does Moyna think he is. He clearly sees himself in a very flattering light if he thinks anyone gives two shites if he promotes the GAA or not. The GAA is bigger than any team, any college, any man. Moyna is full of his own importance, and full of shite.
Y'see I'm not disagreeing with you that it was a complete over-reaction by Moyna, indeed as someone who's been involved with and continues to be involved with football at a college and inter-county level it's almost laughable because unless he plans on giving up his jobs with Down and DCU he's likely going to be promoting the sport whether he wants to or not.
What I am saying is that bloody-mindness, arogance even, is what a lot of top-tier people in any field have bubbling under the surface, just look at how Cody has treated the media in the past or the self-agrandising of people like Alex Fergson who thinks every little call made against him is a case for a conspiracy. I think for some people a healthy ego is not an impediment to success but an ingredient for it.
DCU have parlayed an excellent sports science department into an excellent football college and if most people were in Moyna's shoes they'd probably have been just as forceful in building up the football program, indeed if they weren't they wouldn't have been doing their job as manager properly.
It's up to the GAA to set the limits colleges operate within, not managers' to take avantage of what is in place.
Personally I think Moyna is right to be annoyed. Of course his comments in the immediate aftermath of the decision were OTT, but I'm sure we've all had serious frustration at the machinations of the GAA at some time or other - "typical feckin GAA" when something has gone wrong at some level or another.
I think there's a big amount of begrudgery in some of the anti-Moyna comments. He feels his player has been hard done by, so he feels he has to speak out. A certain amount of over reaction but it is a huge decision for the two lads, and in Aidan Walsh's case (don't know the details of Boyle's case but its presumably very similar) it looks very unfair to me.
The rule is now that you can only qualify to play Sigerson while completing two separate courses. However, if you start a course and then drop out, that won't count - so long as you've all the official deregistration paperwork done by October.
When Walsh was doing his first course, he realised quickly that it wasnt for him, and dropped out. If the October rule had been in place back then, he would most certainly have completed all the paperwork by the deadline. But back then there was no such deadline, so he hadnt bothered with the paperwork until some later time.
The only reason Walsh is ineligible to play this year is because he missed the paperwork deadline - a deadline that didn't exist back then! Its completely and blatantly unfair in my view, and you can see why Moyna would be annoyed and why Walsh and his teammates would be scractching their heads about the GAA (not that any of them are going to give it up!)
Mentioning Moyna in the same breath as top level coaches is the real travesty in this thread
Quote from: Hound on February 08, 2013, 08:22:17 AM
Personally I think Moyna is right to be annoyed. Of course his comments in the immediate aftermath of the decision were OTT, but I'm sure we've all had serious frustration at the machinations of the GAA at some time or other - "typical feckin GAA" when something has gone wrong at some level or another.
I think there's a big amount of begrudgery in some of the anti-Moyna comments. He feels his player has been hard done by, so he feels he has to speak out. A certain amount of over reaction but it is a huge decision for the two lads, and in Aidan O'Shea's case (don't know the details of Boyle's case but its presumably very similar) it looks very unfair to me.
The rule is now that you can only qualify to play Sigerson while completing two separate courses. However, if you start a course and then drop out, that won't count - so long as you've all the official deregistration paperwork done by October.
When O'Shea was doing his first course, he realised quickly that it wasnt for him, and dropped out. If the October rule had been in place back then, he would most certainly have completed all the paperwork by the deadline. But back then there was no such deadline, so he hadnt bothered with the paperwork until some later time.
The only reason O'Shea is ineligible to play this year is because he missed the paperwork deadline - a deadline that didn't exist back then! Its completely and blatantly unfair in my view, and you can see why Moyna would be annoyed and why O'Shea and his teammates would be scractching their heads about the GAA (not that any of them are going to give it up!)
Aidan Walsh you mean. Aidan O'Shea is with DIT.
Don't doubt his comments was over the top but the rules as outlined by Hound are a bit of a joke. While I don't like what they are doing in terms of recruiting everyone, anyone who has had any players under their programmes at any level will get a better player back, thats for sure. Also, what they doing in terms of educating and giving players new careers is to be encouraged.
Moyna is very impressive to listen to in terms of player development, burnout, injury prevention and training regimes. Heard him a few times and his forward way of thinking for playing is very good and should be listened to. If we had more coaches with his outlook and attitude we'd have a better game, I think.
Just because he disagrees and crictises the GAA and the rules, doesn't mean he is against the GAA or anti-GAA. Fustration can lead to people saying rash things and if these are GAA people, should they not be listened too?
Quote from: Tubberman on February 08, 2013, 09:20:00 AM
Aidan Walsh you mean. Aidan O'Shea is with DIT.
Indeed I do. Cheers
Quote from: Hound on February 08, 2013, 08:22:17 AM
Personally I think Moyna is right to be annoyed. Of course his comments in the immediate aftermath of the decision were OTT, but I'm sure we've all had serious frustration at the machinations of the GAA at some time or other - "typical feckin GAA" when something has gone wrong at some level or another.
I think there's a big amount of begrudgery in some of the anti-Moyna comments. He feels his player has been hard done by, so he feels he has to speak out. A certain amount of over reaction but it is a huge decision for the two lads, and in Aidan Walsh's case (don't know the details of Boyle's case but its presumably very similar) it looks very unfair to me.
The rule is now that you can only qualify to play Sigerson while completing two separate courses. However, if you start a course and then drop out, that won't count - so long as you've all the official deregistration paperwork done by October.
When Walsh was doing his first course, he realised quickly that it wasnt for him, and dropped out. If the October rule had been in place back then, he would most certainly have completed all the paperwork by the deadline. But back then there was no such deadline, so he hadnt bothered with the paperwork until some later time.
The only reason Walsh is ineligible to play this year is because he missed the paperwork deadline - a deadline that didn't exist back then! Its completely and blatantly unfair in my view, and you can see why Moyna would be annoyed and why Walsh and his teammates would be scractching their heads about the GAA (not that any of them are going to give it up!)
Disagree completely. Your pro DCU stance implies that Walsh would have completed withdrawal papers had he known about the new rule.. A bit hard when not only was he a student till January but he played freshers football that year too. The fact is that Moyna poached yet anther player and got caught out this time because of the rule, so he huffs no puffs like a child since.
His quoting of Michael Murphy was disgraceful to say the least and says allot about Moyna that he would stoop to such pathetic levels.
Maybe im missing the point . But should it not be up to The college to Form their own rules for their own competitions? only they know what rules suit thier unique situation .
while i think the Gaa could do with a 'Bringing the game into Disrepute' rule to deal with situations like this where Stupid things are said by people whoio should know better . the likes of Moyna are very important To the GAA Deaking with Player at an age where drop out is huge. imposing silly artifical Rules do little to help the Situation
Quote from: rosnarun on February 08, 2013, 11:46:55 AM
Maybe im missing the point . But should it not be up to The college to Form their own rules for their own competitions? only they know what rules suit thier unique situation .
while i think the Gaa could do with a 'Bringing the game into Disrepute' rule to deal with situations like this where Stupid things are said by people whoio should know better . the likes of Moyna are very important To the GAA Deaking with Player at an age where drop out is huge. imposing silly artifical Rules do little to help the Situation
The players he deals with are near all inter county players.
Does he do much for the ordinary club player in the college ?
I thought he told Walsh he wasn't coming to DCU 'to play football'? :D
Seriously though, to threaten to stop 'teaching' gaelic games is drama queen behaviour pure and simple.
Comments like that can badly damage an individuals credibility.
This is what Moyna said
http://thescore.thejournal.ie/aidan-walsh-sigerson-cup-dcu-niall-moyna-785464-Feb2013/
Why doesn't he just f##k off from the GAA then? He appears to have used the sport to further his own career and he wouldn't have a profile at all in the general public if it wasn't for the GAA. The Sigerson has become a joke because people like him have been instrumental in trying to stock pile players and his rant is like an immature child who needs the support of his mates to lend weight to his pathetic argument - ffs telling PE teachers not to promote GAA?? Can anyone expect Michael Murphy to listen to this clown?
"Mr Murphy, will you show us how to play Gaelic?" "No kids, Niall Moyna from DCU said I couldn't because he thought that the GAA wronged him a few years ago" "No problem Sir, that's fine, best of luck on Sunday"
Quote from: spuds on February 08, 2013, 12:27:13 AM
Quote from: cadence on February 07, 2013, 08:53:03 PM
the real story for me is that he has failed to uphold his duty to protect his student's confidentiality and privacy. don't know what data protection law is like in ireland, or if there is any, but employers sack staff for doing that here in the uk. gross misconduct.
That's what stood out for me also in the article. Would hate for any manager I dealt with quoting me to the media to build his case. Wonder is Murphy that upset about it at all ?
i would be. it's up to murphy to give his own opinion, not murphy's opinion according to moyna which is what we got. murphy may have a position on it that he wanted to keep to himself because coming out with his take on it may have repercussions for him in the future. moyna is very unprofessional imo.
think he could maybes have broken the disclosure part of ireland's data protection act 1988 s1 and s2 para5(b) as well. he needs to wise up, or somebody give him a helping hand to wise up if he can't do it himself. he's a data contoller in this instance, murphy the data subject.
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1988/en/act/pub/0025/sec0001.html#sec1
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1988/en/act/pub/0025/sec0002.html#sec2
Eamonn Sweeney had a go at Niall Moyna as well over his recent comments on the back page of Sunday Independent sports section yesterday. Some people in the GAA think rules should apply only if doesn't affect them.
The like of this is why I can't have any time for the Sigerson Cup.
Quote from: ck on February 08, 2013, 11:03:41 AM
Quote from: Hound on February 08, 2013, 08:22:17 AM
Personally I think Moyna is right to be annoyed. Of course his comments in the immediate aftermath of the decision were OTT, but I'm sure we've all had serious frustration at the machinations of the GAA at some time or other - "typical feckin GAA" when something has gone wrong at some level or another.
I think there's a big amount of begrudgery in some of the anti-Moyna comments. He feels his player has been hard done by, so he feels he has to speak out. A certain amount of over reaction but it is a huge decision for the two lads, and in Aidan Walsh's case (don't know the details of Boyle's case but its presumably very similar) it looks very unfair to me.
The rule is now that you can only qualify to play Sigerson while completing two separate courses. However, if you start a course and then drop out, that won't count - so long as you've all the official deregistration paperwork done by October.
When Walsh was doing his first course, he realised quickly that it wasnt for him, and dropped out. If the October rule had been in place back then, he would most certainly have completed all the paperwork by the deadline. But back then there was no such deadline, so he hadnt bothered with the paperwork until some later time.
The only reason Walsh is ineligible to play this year is because he missed the paperwork deadline - a deadline that didn't exist back then! Its completely and blatantly unfair in my view, and you can see why Moyna would be annoyed and why Walsh and his teammates would be scractching their heads about the GAA (not that any of them are going to give it up!)
Disagree completely. Your pro DCU stance implies that Walsh would have completed withdrawal papers had he known about the new rule.. A bit hard when not only was he a student till January but he played freshers football that year too. The fact is that Moyna poached yet anther player and got caught out this time because of the rule, so he huffs no puffs like a child since.
Calling it a "pro-DCU stance" highlights that this is just DCU bashing rather than a judgement on the specific case.
Walsh stopped going to lectures full time within 3 or 4 weeks of the course starting. He didnt formally de-register until the Christmas break and arsed around the college a fair bit as an 18/19 year old might do. I think its fairly likely that he would have formally deregistered by 31 October, had he known anything might ride on it. Nobody can say for sure, which exactly highlights the unfairness of this rule acting retrospectively.
Here's Joe Brolly's take on it. I wonder is he a "pro-DCU" head too.
http://www.derryjournal.com/community/columnists/brolly-s-bites-new-rule-is-a-fiasco-of-the-third-degree-1-4586847
The Michael Boyle case is different. The rule is you can only do 2 courses, but there's an exception that if one course is a direct follow on from another, the two together will only count as 1:
Quote....where a student, having successfully completed an undergraduate course at a particular level, progresses from that level to a cognate course at a higher level, he shall be considered as studying the same course
Boyle's second course in Limavady and third course in DCU qualified for this exception. But the rule says "successfully completed", and Boyle didn't finish his Limavady course. So because he didnt finish it he's treated as doing his 3rd course in DCU, whereas if he had finished it, his DCU course would be treated as still his 2nd course. Seems harsh to me, but the literal wording won the day, and I wouldnt particularly dispute that decision.
Just read that interesting article by super joe brolly. One thing im wondering is:
Walsh dropped out of his first after a few weeks, fair enough. He then did a full Biology/PE course in CIT for 3 years, right?
So all he would need to do to become a teacher is to complete a one year H Dip ( that's what i did anyway). Why would he need to be enrolled on a 4 year degree again? I know murphy is also on course to be a PE/Biology teacher, surely this must be his 5th there now?
Even though i wouldn't have a pro or anti- DCU view, and I like to see general fair play and sigerson having proper rules and students, I think walsh could be unlucky enough with the ruling in this case.
My judgement on the rule is that it is a poor attempt to stop colleges like DCU recruiting top county players, offer them incentives and effectively buy Sigerson titles. It's no coincidence that many of these top players are directly recruited into the PE course.. which is headed up by motor mouth Niall Moyna, the DCU team manager. He knows well that this rule is an attempt to stop him and his antics, so he crys to the media and says he'll never "promote" the GAA again. If his behaviour and influence in DCU for the college to fork out for free accommodation and free fees for elite players is his way of "promoting the GAA" then perhaps we are all better off without him.
Is it such a bad thing to offer free accommodation, use of a car, free gym membership etc. to top level young players so they go to your university rather than another one?
Think that's a bit extreme of Brolly to call it vicious. If Walsh had already completed a 3 or 4 year degree, the obviously he would have had 3 or 4 years playing Uni football anyway. Don't think its that big a deal, at the end of the day it still allows for anyone to play up to 8 years of Sigerson football. And I thought the main reason people went to uni anyway was to get a degree, not to play football
Quote from: Corkey22 on February 13, 2013, 11:37:44 PM
Think that's a bit extreme of Brolly to call it vicious. If Walsh had already completed a 3 or 4 year degree, the obviously he would have had 3 or 4 years playing Uni football anyway. Don't think its that big a deal, at the end of the day it still allows for anyone to play up to 8 years of Sigerson football. And I thought the main reason people went to uni anyway was to get a degree, not to play football
6 years is the limit to play Sigerson Football, Walsh would still have been eligible that way. Being his third different course is where the problem was.
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 11, 2013, 03:25:17 PM
The like of this is why I can't have any time for the Sigerson Cup.
man after my own heart
Not sure, I think they did take into consideration the sporting ability of students so you could get a course that you technically didn't have the points for but I don't think it made up a significant shortfall in academic points. I'd support such a system, Sigerson or no Sigerson, where sporting ability was taken into account for PE, sports science, sport related courses as academic ability shouldn't be the only criteria for entry into some courses, but that's a different discussion!
As long as Universities aren't getting lads into courses they have no chance of completing simply to play football then I'd have no issue with free accommodation, use of a car etc.. Good luck to lads talented enough to get these perks, it really is more of a bonus to their families than them as their parents would generally be forking out for accommodation and the like.
Sigerson is a great competition and if lads can get an education, improve their football and save a few pound then I see no issue.
Quote from: Orchardman on February 13, 2013, 05:32:47 PM
Just read that interesting article by super joe brolly. One thing im wondering is:
Walsh dropped out of his first after a few weeks, fair enough. He then did a full Biology/PE course in CIT for 3 years, right?
So all he would need to do to become a teacher is to complete a one year H Dip ( that's what i did anyway). Why would he need to be enrolled on a 4 year degree again? I know murphy is also on course to be a PE/Biology teacher, surely this must be his 5th there now?
Even though i wouldn't have a pro or anti- DCU view, and I like to see general fair play and sigerson having proper rules and students, I think walsh could be unlucky enough with the ruling in this case.
Just so there's a bit of reality here. This is my understanding of the facts as I have ascertained from people I've spoken to.
Walsh was doing 1st year Engineering in CIT..he most certainly did NOT drop out after "a few weeks"...indeed records will likely show he played fresher football in jan/feb of that college year. He decided he didn't see his future in Engineering, so switched to diploma in health managment (or whatever its called) and completed that last May. (Not a course that generally leads to teaching study and really a stepping stone to further study..or becoming a gym instructor or that kind of stuff)
At some point during his last year of college he was contacted about the possibility of attending DCU...)Moyna claims he never contacted him or spoke to him prior to landing at DCU's doorstep which is horsesh*t) he was however informed by several people, as were DCU that he would be ruled ineligible for Sigerson due to the 3 course rule. DCU for whatever reason (I can only assume they thought Walsh had some sort of special case?) decided to go ahead with the process and Walsh was enrolled on a PE/Biology degree course (and given a scholarship/bursary). DCU were again informed on attempting to register Walsh for 3rd level gaa that he was ineligible for Sigerson and THEN months after being informed of this decided to kick up a fuss and start the campaign (still running) for "Justice for Aidan"..."GAA are trying to screw DCU"...etc.
Fact is, wherever its coming from and for whatever reason..DCU have huge bucks behind them and have gone around to talented U-21 players AND players from other 3rd level colleges offering them scholarships etc to sign up. Players have been known to be driving sponsored cars and the like for example.
To hear Moyna then, come out with rubbish like this, is most ironic. He would badly want to catch himself on.
If only we'd got Moyna for the county job.. O how wonderful this thread would be.
You know, the more I think about it the happier I am about sports scholarships and even some of the associated goodies. It goes a long way to offering talented 17 and 18 year-olds that might be tempted to take a professional offer from a rugby province or an AFL rookie academy a real world reason to stick with gaelic, which in most cases is where their emotional choice lies anyways.
It also helps ward off the spectre of emmigration by pushing back the need for a full-time job another 4-6 years and at the end of it all the player has a degree and a reputation that makes it a little easier to find a job at home. I know we've got one of the most, err, educated panels in the country and it's doubtless that had this recession hit a few decades ago our panel of almost entirely sub-25 year-old men would have been destroyed by emmigration because a whole lot more wouldn't have even had the option of going to college in a county with Roscommon's demographics.
Sure it mostly benefits the star players but where would our sport be without those same players? There's a positive trade-off here that few seem to want to admit to.
Missing the point completely.
I've no problem with scholarships for fellas leaving school. Every 3rd level institution has them, every province (I assume) has them....great, get more fellas an education while improving their football/hurling.
What I DO have a problem with is bringing players into a college SOLELY to play football/hurling with little or no regard to what course they do or how they fare academically. DCU,IT Tralee back in the day, LIT and a few other colleges have had a few guys in their mid 20's (or older!) who have very little bona fides as students and aside from being contrary to the spirit of Sigerson/Fitzgibbon, it is damaging for genuine GAA players in those colleges and ALSO for those "elite" players themselves, who at some point have to move on. Be interesting to see if Aidan Walsh is kept on at DCU for example now that he can't play for them. I couldn't put a figure on it, but the foolish decision he and Moyna took to push ahead with bringing him in could be a very costly mistake for him.
Sigerson/Fitzgibbon should be under 25/26 and allow players 4 years max, with exceptions being made for those doing Medicine/Dentistry which takes 5/6 years. Just my opinion.
Quote from: Syferus on February 15, 2013, 03:38:44 AM
If only we'd got Moyna for the county job..
We certainly appear to have dodged a bullett by not
being able to aff getting that lad.
Quote from: Syferus on February 15, 2013, 03:38:44 AM
If only we'd got Moyna for the county job.. O how wonderful this thread would be.
And how exactly would Moyna getting the Roscommon job have made a difference to Walsh and Boyle being eligible?
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 15, 2013, 01:59:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 15, 2013, 03:38:44 AM
If only we'd got Moyna for the county job.. O how wonderful this thread would be.
And how exactly would Moyna getting the Roscommon job have made a difference to Walsh and Boyle being eligible?
Ahh now Rodney - you're not very well acquainted with Syferian logic ;D
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 15, 2013, 01:59:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 15, 2013, 03:38:44 AM
If only we'd got Moyna for the county job.. O how wonderful this thread would be.
And how exactly would Moyna getting the Roscommon job have made a difference to Walsh and Boyle being eligible?
You missed the point in the most complete fashion I've ever seen.
Great usage of the quote function chaps, impressive stuff. You were in danger Rossfan for a while of appearing semi-educated with your grammar correction vocation. ???
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 15, 2013, 01:59:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 15, 2013, 03:38:44 AM
If only we'd got Moyna for the county job.. O how wonderful this thread would be.
And how exactly would Moyna getting the Roscommon job have made a difference to Walsh and Boyle being eligible?
Quote from: Rossfan on February 15, 2013, 02:15:45 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 15, 2013, 01:59:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 15, 2013, 03:38:44 AM
If only we'd got Moyna for the county job.. O how wonderful this thread would be.
And how exactly would Moyna getting the Roscommon job have made a difference to Walsh and Boyle being eligible?
Ahh now Rodney - you're not very well acquainted with Syferian logic ;D
Quote from: Syferus on February 15, 2013, 04:18:10 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 15, 2013, 01:59:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 15, 2013, 03:38:44 AM
If only we'd got Moyna for the county job.. O how wonderful this thread would be.
And how exactly would Moyna getting the Roscommon job have made a difference to Walsh and Boyle being eligible?
You missed the point in the most complete fashion I've ever seen.
Quote from: spuds on February 15, 2013, 07:16:45 PM
Great usage of the quote function chaps, impressive stuff. You were in danger Rossfan for a while of appearing semi-educated with your grammar correction vocation. ???
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 15, 2013, 01:59:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 15, 2013, 03:38:44 AM
If only we'd got Moyna for the county job.. O how wonderful this thread would be.
And how exactly would Moyna getting the Roscommon job have made a difference to Walsh and Boyle being eligible?
Quote from: Rossfan on February 15, 2013, 02:15:45 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 15, 2013, 01:59:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 15, 2013, 03:38:44 AM
If only we'd got Moyna for the county job.. O how wonderful this thread would be.
And how exactly would Moyna getting the Roscommon job have made a difference to Walsh and Boyle being eligible?
Ahh now Rodney - you're not very well acquainted with Syferian logic ;D
Quote from: Syferus on February 15, 2013, 04:18:10 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 15, 2013, 01:59:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 15, 2013, 03:38:44 AM
If only we'd got Moyna for the county job.. O how wonderful this thread would be.
And how exactly would Moyna getting the Roscommon job have made a difference to Walsh and Boyle being eligible?
You missed the point in the most complete fashion I've ever seen.
Haven't you little to be doin Fataí ;D
the last we'll hear of Moyna for 2013, hopefully
Quote from: neilthemac on February 22, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
the last we'll hear of Moyna for 2013, hopefully
Well, if you expect Down to sink faster than a Mayoman in a bar on Paddy's Day, sure! No more Moyna!