well its just a bit of sabre rattling at the moment but its starting to warm up nicely. firstly the brits have shown their hand in round one so the argies would have a fair idea what to expect were they to invade. secondly an argentine invasion would attract more support from their neighbours brazil this time around not military but moral support would help. also the US enjoy a healthier relationship with the current argie administration making it a little less comfy for the brits they couldnt be sure of total support. i reckon the argies would give the brits a run for their money(oil) this time
on a personal note a war like this would give all those fleg waving pricks a chance to really fight for their fleg lets see how many of them are willing to get involved
Cameron says he will do everything for the 5000 sheep shaggers while unemployed people back in dear old Blighty are supposed to live on 53 quid a week and libraries are being shut down.
The UK can't afford las Malvinas.
I don't think the Argentineans would be stupid enough to try invade again. Their army isn't up to it and countries like Brazil who are growing rapidly won't want a conflict in their neighbourhood.
I don't think the Tories ever pretended to care about those at the poorer end of society but they do love a bit of global posturing and militarism.
They have to keep the last remnant of their once big Empire I suppose
Argentina is on a very shaky scraw at the moment with an economic crisis and the risk of stagflation. But they have a better claim to the islands than the Brits. And I wonder how much the Falklands cost the UK every year.
Quote from: seafoid on January 08, 2013, 09:12:18 AM
The UK can't afford las Malvinas.
the estimated 60 billion barrels of oil in the territory may well make it a lot more affordable..
Oh the empire is finished no foreign lands to seize. So the greedy eyes of England are looking towards the seas................ ;D
We got a 150 volunteers outa Belfast ready to go, on the way to Dublin on Saturday, give them a Garda escort to the port, and fire them out to the Falklands to defend that flag lol
Is it not a bit rich that the Argentinians bang on about British colonialism when Argentina is a former Spanish colony itself? Also, I might be wrong, but I don't think there has ever been any Argentinian settlement on the Falklands.
Quote from: michaelg on January 08, 2013, 08:44:17 PM
Is it not a bit rich that the Argentinians bang on about British colonialism when Argentina is a former Spanish colony itself? Also, I might be wrong, but I don't think there has ever been any Argentinian settlement on the Falklands.
SF has a very good opportunity here to 'reach out to Unionists'.
They should announce that in light of the recent challenge to the Britishness of the Falklands, that Belfast City Council will fund the trip for any protestors willing to march on the centre of Beunos Aires.
Quote from: heganboy on January 08, 2013, 06:00:07 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 08, 2013, 09:12:18 AM
The UK can't afford las Malvinas.
the estimated 60 billion barrels of oil in the territory may well make it a lot more affordable..
It looks like a bit of a long shot
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/nov/27/fogl-shares-halve
P&O ferries are forced to pull out of 3 Argentinian ports as more union flegs are burnt. its worth noting that during the last war p&o had more ships carrying troops to the Falklands that the British army themselves. mostly junk they probably wish didn't come back
Quote from: lawnseed on January 13, 2013, 07:53:57 AM
P&O ferries are forced to pull out of 3 Argentinian ports as more union flegs are burnt. its worth noting that during the last war p&o had more ships carrying troops to the Falklands that the British army themselves. mostly junk they probably wish didn't come back
Most of them came back, though, and they're on the dole now.
Quote from: lawnseed on January 07, 2013, 11:38:01 PM
well its just a bit of sabre rattling at the moment but its starting to warm up nicely. firstly the brits have shown their hand in round one i reckon the argies would give the brits a run for their money(oil) this time
This shows how little you know. Prior to the Falklands the UK had only a handful of troops and local militia. The UK had downgraded its Navy. Argentina had a large army, with advanced fighters for that time and top of the range French anti-ship missles. Today the UK has a significant garrison, Eurofighter Typhoons, transport planes and attack choppers. The UK have significantly upgraded their Navy, Argentina has downgraded theirs. Argentina's airforce has gone from one of the best in South America to mid-table at best. Due to both Argentinian disinterested in upgrading their airforce and UK/USA making it difficult for them to buy advanced US/European/Russian/Chinese/Indian etc. advanced aircraft.
If anything is closer than we would imagine, it was Falklands War. Had the Argentinans managed to united both their naval groups, they would have gave the Brits one hell of a kicking, but they did not manage this and the war ended as it did.
I think the gratitude headline portrays the Brits true feelings towards the Falklands, they are not liberators but simple Imperialists.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2202679/Only-29-Falkland-Islanders-say-feel-British.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2202679/Only-29-Falkland-Islanders-say-feel-British.html)
That's gratitude! Only 29% of Falkland Islanders say they feel BritishOver half of islanders call themselves 'Falklands Islanders' rather than 'British'
Less than one in ten identify themselves as Argentine
Thirty years after British forces liberated the Falkland Islands from Argentinian invaders, the two countries are still at odds over who has the more legitimate claim to the land.
But it seems the inhabitants of the island would prefer to be left to their own devices, with just one in three saying they actually feel British.
A census in the self-governing British Overseas Territory found that an overwhelming 59 percent say their national identity is 'Falkland Islander'.
Just 29 per cent admit feeling 'British
The census results have implications for Argentina, which refuses to deal directly with the Falkland Islands' local government and accuses Britain of running what Argentines call the Islas Malvinas as an illegal colony.
The survey also puts the average annual income at $32,213 (£20,015), much higher than Argentina's $9,620 (£5,977) as of last year, or that of the Falklands' other Latin American neighbors.
The income figure underlines how much things have changed since before the 1982 war.
Back then, wool prices had bottomed out internationally and invading Argentine soldiers were told they would be welcomed by impoverished and oppressed tenant farmers.
Instead, they encountered a stubbornly defiant population that helped British troops retake the islands.
Sheltered by continued military support, Falklanders have seen their livelihoods greatly improve since the war, with revenue flowing in from fisheries, tourism and offshore oil development.
But the census also reveals a problem: The islands' population hasn't grown since the last survey was done in 2006. There are only 2,563 residents after civilian contractors and British military personnel and their dependents are excluded.
The population is aging rapidly, too, with the ranks of people older than 65 increasing by 14 percent in the last six years.
'If the Falklands is to progress we need to increase our population,' said Les Harris, a 73-year-old retired power station manager who was born in Chile.
The census shows unemployment at just 1 percent, with one-fifth of all workers having multiple jobs. The largest employer by far is the government, at 28 percent, followed by agriculture (11 percent) and hospitality and tourism (11 percent).
Offshore oil and gas development could bring sudden wealth to the islands if several drilling efforts strike it rich. But the effort currently employs just 26 islanders, and there simply aren't enough people around to work the jobs created by a growing economy.
'There is virtually no spare capacity within the labor market to accommodate any additional employment opportunities that may arise in the future. Indeed, almost 20 percent of persons in employment have more than one job,' the government said Tuesday.
The census shows immigration slowing, due to one of the world's most restrictive policies: Newcomers aren't allowed to apply for islander status, giving them voting rights among other things, until they have completed seven years of residency. That can be done only by repeatedly renewing temporary labor contracts. Even then, only 40 people can apply each year, and not all are accepted.
The census says 70 per cent of the population, 1,973 people, are Falkland Islanders or Falkland Island Status Holders.
With lots of jobs and an aging population it sounds like they could do with an influx of ultra loyal unemployed young British people. I wonder where you might find such people?
Quote from: armaghniac on January 13, 2013, 05:55:51 PM
With lots of jobs and an aging population it sounds like they could do with an influx of ultra loyal unemployed young British people. I wonder where you might find such people?
F.U.C.K. Will be formed.........................
Falklands Ulster Conservative Killers
Quote from: theticklemister on January 13, 2013, 06:56:46 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 13, 2013, 05:55:51 PM
With lots of jobs and an aging population it sounds like they could do with an influx of ultra loyal unemployed young British people. I wonder where you might find such people?
F.U.C.K. Will be formed.........................
Falklands Ulster Conservative Killers
O.F.F.
Overseas Freedom Fighters
Do ye think the two could join up muppett.......... Plenty of funding to be had!
Quote from: theticklemister on January 13, 2013, 07:12:24 PM
Do ye think the two could join up muppett.......... Plenty of funding to be had!
Give me some of that funding and I'll get back to you after many rounds of.....eh....clarification.
if they'd lay off the sheep.. :P
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on January 13, 2013, 01:11:28 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on January 07, 2013, 11:38:01 PM
well its just a bit of sabre rattling at the moment but its starting to warm up nicely. firstly the brits have shown their hand in round one i reckon the argies would give the brits a run for their money(oil) this time
This shows how little you know. Prior to the Falklands the UK had only a handful of troops and local militia. The UK had downgraded its Navy. Argentina had a large army, with advanced fighters for that time and top of the range French anti-ship missles. Today the UK has a significant garrison, Eurofighter Typhoons, transport planes and attack choppers. The UK have significantly upgraded their Navy, Argentina has downgraded theirs. Argentina's airforce has gone from one of the best in South America to mid-table at best. Due to both Argentinian disinterested in upgrading their airforce and UK/USA making it difficult for them to buy advanced US/European/Russian/Chinese/Indian etc. advanced aircraft.
If anything is closer than we would imagine, it was Falklands War. Had the Argentinans managed to united both their naval groups, they would have gave the Brits one hell of a kicking, but they did not manage this and the war ended as it did.
since when did the brits not have an army..? or a navy? i worked in germany in the 80s and 90s the brits had troops by the thousand stationed there not to mention the thousands they had here or the odd 20 or 30 thousand they had at home. well trained harden soldiers not teenage conscripts. i fail to see how the brits or the yanks could prevent the argentinians buying any armaments they need from russia or china. if you have the money you could buy any military stuff you need ask president hassan of syria.
"if anything is closer than we would imagine, it was the falklands war" is there some drink left over after the holidays? ;)
Quote from: lawnseed on January 13, 2013, 10:18:21 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on January 13, 2013, 01:11:28 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on January 07, 2013, 11:38:01 PM
well its just a bit of sabre rattling at the moment but its starting to warm up nicely. firstly the brits have shown their hand in round one i reckon the argies would give the brits a run for their money(oil) this time
This shows how little you know. Prior to the Falklands the UK had only a handful of troops and local militia. The UK had downgraded its Navy. Argentina had a large army, with advanced fighters for that time and top of the range French anti-ship missles. Today the UK has a significant garrison, Eurofighter Typhoons, transport planes and attack choppers. The UK have significantly upgraded their Navy, Argentina has downgraded theirs. Argentina's airforce has gone from one of the best in South America to mid-table at best. Due to both Argentinian disinterested in upgrading their airforce and UK/USA making it difficult for them to buy advanced US/European/Russian/Chinese/Indian etc. advanced aircraft.
If anything is closer than we would imagine, it was Falklands War. Had the Argentinans managed to united both their naval groups, they would have gave the Brits one hell of a kicking, but they did not manage this and the war ended as it did.
since when did the brits not have an army..? or a navy? i worked in germany in the 80s and 90s the brits had troops by the thousand stationed there not to mention the thousands they had here or the odd 20 or 30 thousand they had at home. well trained harden soldiers not teenage conscripts. i fail to see how the brits or the yanks could prevent the argentinians buying any armaments they need from russia or china. if you have the money you could buy any military stuff you need ask president hassan of syria.
"if anything is closer than we would imagine, it was the falklands war" is there some drink left over after the holidays? ;)
You clearly haven't a clue what you are talking about, you never do really. It is quite easy for certain countries to prevent weapons being sold to certain countries. I don't see very few new fighter planes in Cuba. Syria has had several shipments of Russian attack choppers stopped by countries such as the UK and Turkey and sent back to Russia. I would love to see how 1980s and earlier Argentinian fighters based in mainland South America will do against Eurofighter Typhoons.
The British had to use commercial ships to transport their soldiers and planes, this was due to FACT the reduction in capacity of the Royal Navy at the time. Thousands of troops in Germany is pretty useless in a battle on the Falkland Islands.
This islands in the 1980's were defended by a handfull of British regulars and local farmers who were little more than Dads Army, they have been replaced by a proper regular army garrison.
By the way the Falkland conflict was not as cut and dry British victory as the victor propeganda tells. If you ever looked into the actual conflict bar spouting shite you would know this.
Now if Brazil were to take a crack, I would actually give them a huge chance.
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on January 13, 2013, 11:10:34 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on January 13, 2013, 10:18:21 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on January 13, 2013, 01:11:28 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on January 07, 2013, 11:38:01 PM
well its just a bit of sabre rattling at the moment but its starting to warm up nicely. firstly the brits have shown their hand in round one i reckon the argies would give the brits a run for their money(oil) this time
This shows how little you know. Prior to the Falklands the UK had only a handful of troops and local militia. The UK had downgraded its Navy. Argentina had a large army, with advanced fighters for that time and top of the range French anti-ship missles. Today the UK has a significant garrison, Eurofighter Typhoons, transport planes and attack choppers. The UK have significantly upgraded their Navy, Argentina has downgraded theirs. Argentina's airforce has gone from one of the best in South America to mid-table at best. Due to both Argentinian disinterested in upgrading their airforce and UK/USA making it difficult for them to buy advanced US/European/Russian/Chinese/Indian etc. advanced aircraft.
If anything is closer than we would imagine, it was Falklands War. Had the Argentinans managed to united both their naval groups, they would have gave the Brits one hell of a kicking, but they did not manage this and the war ended as it did.
since when did the brits not have an army..? or a navy? i worked in germany in the 80s and 90s the brits had troops by the thousand stationed there not to mention the thousands they had here or the odd 20 or 30 thousand they had at home. well trained harden soldiers not teenage conscripts. i fail to see how the brits or the yanks could prevent the argentinians buying any armaments they need from russia or china. if you have the money you could buy any military stuff you need ask president hassan of syria.
"if anything is closer than we would imagine, it was the falklands war" is there some drink left over after the holidays? ;)
You clearly haven't a clue what you are talking about, you never do really. It is quite easy for certain countries to prevent weapons being sold to certain countries. I don't see very few new fighter planes in Cuba. Syria has had several shipments of Russian attack choppers stopped by countries such as the UK and Turkey and sent back to Russia. I would love to see how 1980s and earlier Argentinian fighters based in mainland South America will do against Eurofighter Typhoons.
The British had to use commercial ships to transport their soldiers and planes, this was due to FACT the reduction in capacity of the Royal Navy at the time. Thousands of troops in Germany is pretty useless in a battle on the Falkland Islands.
This islands in the 1980's were defended by a handfull of British regulars and local farmers who were little more than Dads Army, they have been replaced by a proper regular army garrison.
By the way the Falkland conflict was not as cut and dry British victory as the victor propeganda tells. If you ever looked into the actual conflict bar spouting shite you would know this.
Now if Brazil were to take a crack, I would actually give them a huge chance.
with all the mayo men in the british army.. world dominmation here we go
Quote from: lawnseed on January 13, 2013, 11:15:29 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on January 13, 2013, 11:10:34 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on January 13, 2013, 10:18:21 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on January 13, 2013, 01:11:28 PM
Quote from: lawnseed on January 07, 2013, 11:38:01 PM
well its just a bit of sabre rattling at the moment but its starting to warm up nicely. firstly the brits have shown their hand in round one i reckon the argies would give the brits a run for their money(oil) this time
This shows how little you know. Prior to the Falklands the UK had only a handful of troops and local militia. The UK had downgraded its Navy. Argentina had a large army, with advanced fighters for that time and top of the range French anti-ship missles. Today the UK has a significant garrison, Eurofighter Typhoons, transport planes and attack choppers. The UK have significantly upgraded their Navy, Argentina has downgraded theirs. Argentina's airforce has gone from one of the best in South America to mid-table at best. Due to both Argentinian disinterested in upgrading their airforce and UK/USA making it difficult for them to buy advanced US/European/Russian/Chinese/Indian etc. advanced aircraft.
If anything is closer than we would imagine, it was Falklands War. Had the Argentinans managed to united both their naval groups, they would have gave the Brits one hell of a kicking, but they did not manage this and the war ended as it did.
since when did the brits not have an army..? or a navy? i worked in germany in the 80s and 90s the brits had troops by the thousand stationed there not to mention the thousands they had here or the odd 20 or 30 thousand they had at home. well trained harden soldiers not teenage conscripts. i fail to see how the brits or the yanks could prevent the argentinians buying any armaments they need from russia or china. if you have the money you could buy any military stuff you need ask president hassan of syria.
"if anything is closer than we would imagine, it was the falklands war" is there some drink left over after the holidays? ;)
You clearly haven't a clue what you are talking about, you never do really. It is quite easy for certain countries to prevent weapons being sold to certain countries. I don't see very few new fighter planes in Cuba. Syria has had several shipments of Russian attack choppers stopped by countries such as the UK and Turkey and sent back to Russia. I would love to see how 1980s and earlier Argentinian fighters based in mainland South America will do against Eurofighter Typhoons.
The British had to use commercial ships to transport their soldiers and planes, this was due to FACT the reduction in capacity of the Royal Navy at the time. Thousands of troops in Germany is pretty useless in a battle on the Falkland Islands.
This islands in the 1980's were defended by a handfull of British regulars and local farmers who were little more than Dads Army, they have been replaced by a proper regular army garrison.
By the way the Falkland conflict was not as cut and dry British victory as the victor propeganda tells. If you ever looked into the actual conflict bar spouting shite you would know this.
Now if Brazil were to take a crack, I would actually give them a huge chance.
with all the mayo men in the british army.. world dominmation here we go
Last time the Argentinians gave the Brits (Spanish & Brazilians too) a good kicking was when a Mayoman led them.
William brown, what a lad.
They haven't gone away you know
Quote from: theticklemister on January 13, 2013, 11:32:43 PMWilliam brown, what a lad.
A Mayo/Argentina double this year?
There won't be an overpriced rug made in Foxford for a month if that happens.
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 16, 2026, 04:47:37 PMQuote from: theticklemister on January 13, 2013, 11:32:43 PMWilliam brown, what a lad.
A Mayo/Argentina double this year?
There won't be an overpriced rug made in Foxford for a month if that happens.
Big Argentine - Foxford connection ifkyk
I mean, it's written right there like.
The English have taken a sudden interest in the Falklands today.