Called down to my old house today to pick up some post. There was a series of communications from e-Flow and finally one from Pierse & Fitzgibbon solicitors in Listowel regarding an unpaid M50 toll from August. Given escalations, the fine is now nearly €150.
They were sending letters to my old address as that's where the car was last registered (they use the tax database to take the address). I moved house on the 3rd of July and never got around to changing the registered address of the car as, frankly, down here it's an absolute pain in the hole which involves filling out various forms and sending them off to Shannon. You can only update online when paying your motor tax (not due until February). I have previously paid a fine of €3 for a separate incident when the notification letter arrived at the house I was living at, if that will stand to me at all.
Have I any chance of getting away with it or will I just have to bite the bullet and pony up?
Quote from: gallsman on December 04, 2012, 08:55:37 PM
Called down to my old house today to pick up some post. There was a series of communications from e-Flow and finally one from Pierse & Fitzgibbon solicitors in Listowel regarding an unpaid M50 toll from August. Given escalations, the fine is now nearly €150.
They were sending letters to my old address as that's where the car was last registered (they use the tax database to take the address). I moved house on the 3rd of July and never got around to changing the registered address of the car as, frankly, down here it's an absolute pain in the hole which involves filling out various forms and sending them off to Shannon. You can only update online when paying your motor tax (not due until February). I have previously paid a fine of €3 for a separate incident when the notification letter arrived at the house I was living at, if that will stand to me at all.
Have I any chance of getting away with it or will I just have to bite the bullet and pony up?
If you don't live or work in the south you can happily ignore, irrespective of scare tactics or solicitor letters
Quote from: gallsman on December 04, 2012, 08:55:37 PM
Called down to my old house today to pick up some post. There was a series of communications from e-Flow and finally one from Pierse & Fitzgibbon solicitors in Listowel regarding an unpaid M50 toll from August. Given escalations, the fine is now nearly €150.
They were sending letters to my old address as that's where the car was last registered (they use the tax database to take the address). I moved house on the 3rd of July and never got around to changing the registered address of the car as, frankly, down here it's an absolute pain in the hole which involves filling out various forms and sending them off to Shannon. You can only update online when paying your motor tax (not due until February). I have previously paid a fine of €3 for a separate incident when the notification letter arrived at the house I was living at, if that will stand to me at all.
Have I any chance of getting away with it or will I just have to bite the bullet and pony up?
Happened to me a while ago , it didn't go as far as the letter from the solicitors but i had received the 2nd warning letter where the fine had got to €46 each way €92 euro in total . Anyway rang the tolls number explained that i had not received the post as i had been out of the country for a few weeks . The girl i was speaking to was very helpfull checked that i had not done this before and allowed me to settle for €12. There is a section on the boards.ie about similiar situations and they have representives on there as well.
Rang them this morning and they agreed that I could just pay the standard fine of €3 along with the unpaid toll of €3 on the condition that I registered with them (the guy on the phone knew the story and it's clearly the protocol - the "only way" he could do it was if I agreed to register).
Because it got as far as the solicitor I had to pay them €46. Could have been worse I guess.
I've been using the M50 toll a few times a year since etoll came in and have never paid. Should I expect something in the post sooner or later?
For peace of mind register with Eflow.All you need is your car erg and credit card no.You get a statement every mail,whether you pass the toll or not,and save money as the cost of each passing is 50 cents less than the actual cost per journey and you get loads of retail offers as well as complete peace of mind.
No call to register with E Flow. Every garage in Ireland sells M50 tickets. When you need one buy one. Simple.
Yeah true.It's far more convenient to buy tokens at full price for every journey rather than simply registering once with Eflow and have your credit card automatically charged at a lesser rate for every use and a monthly statement by email ::)
Quote from: T Fearon on December 05, 2012, 10:32:58 PM
Yeah true.It's far more convenient to buy tokens at full price for every journey rather than simply registering once with Eflow and have your credit card automatically charged at a lesser rate for every use and a monthly statement by email ::)
Its handier again to just sail on through and not worry about it.
For the few times a yr that I'd use the m50 I have registered with eflow and it's a great job - €2.50 each time as worrying about forgetting to pay 3 quid in a shop is hard to beat!
I prefer contributing to the upkeep of my country's infrastructure,and peace of mind! ;D
Exactly cometothekingdom.But don't forget,according to some it's far more convenient to buy tokens at full price for every single journey ::)
Quote from: T Fearon on December 05, 2012, 10:50:50 PM
I prefer contributing to the upkeep of my country's infrastructure,and peace of mind! ;D
You'll also be lining the pockets of foreign investors as the M50 toll is a public private partnership, but the right and honest thing to do.
Sound like this driver needs more than a bit of advice -
A brazen driver owes the State more than €155,000 for refusing to the pay the M50 toll fee, despite travelling on the busy road 1,018 times last year.
This motorist was just one of the hundreds who didn't pay the toll fee after travelling through the barrier-free collection point on the M50 in 2014, costing the State a potential €5m in revenue.
Almost €100m was collected from the 43 million journeys which were made through the toll point on the M50 in Dublin in 2014, according to the National Roads Authority (NRA).
From the Indo
Quote from: orangeman on July 06, 2015, 08:54:43 AM
Sound like this driver needs more than a bit of advice -
A brazen driver owes the State more than €155,000 for refusing to the pay the M50 toll fee, despite travelling on the busy road 1,018 times last year.
This motorist was just one of the hundreds who didn't pay the toll fee after travelling through the barrier-free collection point on the M50 in 2014, costing the State a potential €5m in revenue.
Almost €100m was collected from the 43 million journeys which were made through the toll point on the M50 in Dublin in 2014, according to the National Roads Authority (NRA).
From the Indo
I have a certain amount of sympathy with him and a large amount of admiration for the dimensions of his testes, given how we were gang-raped three times by the state and the Roches with the M50 charges.
Oxi.
Quote from: orangeman on July 06, 2015, 08:54:43 AM
Sound like this driver needs more than a bit of advice -
A brazen driver owes the State more than €155,000 for refusing to the pay the M50 toll fee, despite travelling on the busy road 1,018 times last year.
This motorist was just one of the hundreds who didn't pay the toll fee after travelling through the barrier-free collection point on the M50 in 2014, costing the State a potential €5m in revenue.
Almost €100m was collected from the 43 million journeys which were made through the toll point on the M50 in Dublin in 2014, according to the National Roads Authority (NRA).
From the Indo
He owes €155,000 for 1,018 journeys. That works out at €155.26 per journey. Having recently concluded my own (successful) battle with eFlow over unwarranted and false charges that the pricks are trying to get away with charging him 155 yoyos a go is actually believable. It's still a perfect illustration of the service economy in the south, charge rip-off fees for nothing and then keep adding on extras for anything else you can think off. Eircom is another crowd that's great for it. Four months it took them to activate a telephone line at the house and six months later they're still overcharging on my monthly bill.
Over 100,000 use the M50 each day and manage to pay, there is no excuse for this freeloader.
Is there any point registering if I'm a Nordie?
Will they send the boys round if I don't pay?
Quote from: The Gs Man on July 06, 2015, 11:21:46 AM
Is there any point registering if I'm a Nordie?
Will they send the boys round if I don't pay?
Hi, Peter Darragh!
Quote from: armaghniac on July 06, 2015, 11:19:12 AM
Over 100,000 use the M50 each day and manage to pay, there is no excuse for this freeloader.
1000 journeys should cost €3000
You don't think being overcharged by €152,000 is reason enough not to pay?
Quote from: The Gs Man on July 06, 2015, 11:21:46 AM
Is there any point registering if I'm a Nordie?
Will they send the boys round if I don't pay?
They'll send your number to an English debt collector who send you a letter every 10 days for each journey. Each time they send a (computer generated) letter they'll add on another tenner plus a percentage of the outstanding amount which is 'compounded' to increase with the next demand. Eventually after a couple of months, like your man mentioned here, they'll be looking you to sell the house to cover the return journey to Dublin.
From the original article (http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/motorist-owes-155k-for-unpaid-m50-tolls-31353670.html):
QuoteThe maximum amount a driver's bill can rise to for a single unpaid journey is €152.60. The toll fee starts at €3.10 for users who aren't registered. "However, there is no cap on what a driver can owe if he makes multiple passages without paying," Sean O'Neill from the NRA said.
I doubt he'll end up paying €155k. But if the only sanction after being caught toll dodging is to pay the original toll, there would be no incentive for any of us to pay.
Quote from: The Gs Man on July 06, 2015, 11:21:46 AM
Is there any point registering if I'm a Nordie?
Will they send the boys round if I don't pay?
Nope and nope.
Wouldn't hold out too much hope for you in the future getting a bank loan or a mortgage.
Quote from: deiseach on July 06, 2015, 11:50:31 AM
From the original article (http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/motorist-owes-155k-for-unpaid-m50-tolls-31353670.html):
QuoteThe maximum amount a driver's bill can rise to for a single unpaid journey is €152.60. The toll fee starts at €3.10 for users who aren't registered. "However, there is no cap on what a driver can owe if he makes multiple passages without paying," Sean O'Neill from the NRA said.
I doubt he'll end up paying €155k. But if the only sanction after being caught toll dodging is to pay the original toll, there would be no incentive for any of us to pay.
A 5000% penalty as an incentive to pay? That's not an incentive that's pure robbery.
The English based firm mentioned had me owing them over £300 for four journeys in less than two months after the journeys were made. This was even after payments to were made to their website to cover the original toll and additional penalties. Conveniently for them their automated system doesn't seem to keep track of accumulated amount owed by a car owner but generates a new billing amount with each letter issued.
So if you don't pay a demand within a few days it being issued (2nd class post from England) regardless of when you receive it, then a new letter is issued with penalties. However even if you pay the original demand letter and a the subsequent one is issued then they expect you to pay the subsequent amount even though it's based on a 'compounded' amount that's already been paid previously.
This is nothing more than a scam and it's very possibly yer man is just giving them a big "F*ck You!". If I wasn't watching my credit history in order to buy a house in the south, I'd be doing the same.
If you pay it first time then the penalties are moot.
Quote from: Ulick on July 06, 2015, 12:10:00 PM
A 5000% penalty as an incentive to pay? That's not an incentive that's pure robbery.
How much do you think he should owe for ignoring it over a thousand times? For the purposes of the discussion, can we leave out broadsides about the ripoff in general that is tolls.
Quote from: armaghniac on July 06, 2015, 12:26:43 PM
If you pay it first time then the penalties are moot.
You can't pay it until you get the letter telling you how to pay it. The point is, subsequent letters and penalties are being issued in an unreasonably short time after the previous. By the time the letter comes with instructions on how to pay, the debt collections have already issued a subsequent letter for a higher amount.
Quote from: deiseach on July 06, 2015, 12:27:33 PM
Quote from: Ulick on July 06, 2015, 12:10:00 PM
A 5000% penalty as an incentive to pay? That's not an incentive that's pure robbery.
How much do you think he should owe for ignoring it over a thousand times? For the purposes of the discussion, can we leave out broadsides about the ripoff in general that is tolls.
'On the spot' type fines and if they're not paid, penalty points.
It looks from this system that the English firm are taking a percentage of whatever revenue is raised, so it's in their interest to maximise revenue not to collect unpaid tolls. Whatever governmental department letting this happen is obviously complicit in the scam.
Quote from: Ulick on July 06, 2015, 12:37:03 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 06, 2015, 12:26:43 PM
If you pay it first time then the penalties are moot.
You can't pay it until you get the letter telling you how to pay it. The point is, subsequent letters and penalties are being issued in an unreasonably short time after the previous. By the time the letter comes with instructions on how to pay, the debt collections have already issued a subsequent letter for a higher amount.
Bollix. If you are competent to drive a car then you should be capable of paying the fee without needing a personal letter telling you what to do.
Aren't penalty points a tool of road safety? Most people who neglect to pay the toll and get hit with a fine grumble about it, pay the damn thing, and move on. Again, I'm discounting the people who are being genuinely screwed over by a computer-says-no system, although if the system is supposed to reward revenue maximisation there are surprisingly few of them. Penalty points, on the other hand, are a much more onerous penalty, likely to cause widespread distress. Bringing in that penalty to deal with the kind of person who ignores the toll over a thousand times is way over the top.
Quote from: Ulick on July 06, 2015, 12:37:03 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 06, 2015, 12:26:43 PM
If you pay it first time then the penalties are moot.
You can't pay it until you get the letter telling you how to pay it. The point is, subsequent letters and penalties are being issued in an unreasonably short time after the previous. By the time the letter comes with instructions on how to pay, the debt collections have already issued a subsequent letter for a higher amount.
The second letter does come very quickly after the first letter TBF, 14 days as far as I know. If your car is registered at home and you live away, it's easy enough to miss it
Quote from: Ulick on July 06, 2015, 12:41:57 PM
Quote from: deiseach on July 06, 2015, 12:27:33 PM
Quote from: Ulick on July 06, 2015, 12:10:00 PM
A 5000% penalty as an incentive to pay? That's not an incentive that's pure robbery.
How much do you think he should owe for ignoring it over a thousand times? For the purposes of the discussion, can we leave out broadsides about the ripoff in general that is tolls.
'On the spot' type fines and if they're not paid, penalty points.
It looks from this system that the English firm are taking a percentage of whatever revenue is raised, so it's in their interest to maximise revenue not to collect unpaid tolls. Whatever governmental department letting this happen is obviously complicit in the scam.
You seem to have an issue with it being an English company - would it be ok if it was an Irish company ripping you off?? ;D
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 06, 2015, 01:16:56 PM
The second letter does come very quickly after the first letter TBF, 14 days as far as I know. If your car is registered at home and you live away, it's easy enough to miss it
I've no doubt lots of people find themselves on a treadmill of frustration. Emails gone into spam folders, disconnections from call centres (when they can get through at all), letters crossing over in the post . . . I don't think that failure to pay in good time means you're stupid and/or dishonest. With all that in mind, let's not turn someone who fails to pay over a thousand times into a latter-day Robin Hood.
If you've missed a few, and are getting letters, they will generally waive most fines if you register an account. Yer man is well past that point.
Quote from: deiseach on July 06, 2015, 01:25:50 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 06, 2015, 01:16:56 PM
The second letter does come very quickly after the first letter TBF, 14 days as far as I know. If your car is registered at home and you live away, it's easy enough to miss it
I've no doubt lots of people find themselves on a treadmill of frustration. Emails gone into spam folders, disconnections from call centres (when they can get through at all), letters crossing over in the post . . . I don't think that failure to pay in good time means you're stupid and/or dishonest. With all that in mind, let's not turn someone who fails to pay over a thousand times into a latter-day Robin Hood.
Oh yeah, this fella was / is just chancing his arm, I'd have little sympathy for him
Quote from: armaghniac on July 06, 2015, 12:55:50 PM
Quote from: Ulick on July 06, 2015, 12:37:03 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 06, 2015, 12:26:43 PM
If you pay it first time then the penalties are moot.
You can't pay it until you get the letter telling you how to pay it. The point is, subsequent letters and penalties are being issued in an unreasonably short time after the previous. By the time the letter comes with instructions on how to pay, the debt collections have already issued a subsequent letter for a higher amount.
Bollix. If you are competent to drive a car then you should be capable of paying the fee without needing a personal letter telling you what to do.
It's not bollix. If you don't pay the toll within 24 hours then it can't be paid until the letter arrives. So let's say someone from the north going on a weekend break. If they don't stop off somewhere to pay the toll en-route then they'll not be able to pay until the letter arrives. Throw a couple of children into the mix and it's very easy to forget to stop specifically to pay a toll. Even so, it's not unreasonable to expect a fair penalty, not a 5000% penalty.
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 06, 2015, 01:18:58 PM
Quote from: Ulick on July 06, 2015, 12:41:57 PM
Quote from: deiseach on July 06, 2015, 12:27:33 PM
Quote from: Ulick on July 06, 2015, 12:10:00 PM
A 5000% penalty as an incentive to pay? That's not an incentive that's pure robbery.
How much do you think he should owe for ignoring it over a thousand times? For the purposes of the discussion, can we leave out broadsides about the ripoff in general that is tolls.
'On the spot' type fines and if they're not paid, penalty points.
It looks from this system that the English firm are taking a percentage of whatever revenue is raised, so it's in their interest to maximise revenue not to collect unpaid tolls. Whatever governmental department letting this happen is obviously complicit in the scam.
You seem to have an issue with it being an English company - would it be ok if it was an Irish company ripping you off?? ;D
No I've also mentioned the government department. Getting fu*ked over is the same no matter who is doing it.
Quote from: deiseach on July 06, 2015, 12:58:23 PM
Aren't penalty points a tool of road safety? Most people who neglect to pay the toll and get hit with a fine grumble about it, pay the damn thing, and move on. Again, I'm discounting the people who are being genuinely screwed over by a computer-says-no system, although if the system is supposed to reward revenue maximisation there are surprisingly few of them. Penalty points, on the other hand, are a much more onerous penalty, likely to cause widespread distress. Bringing in that penalty to deal with the kind of person who ignores the toll over a thousand times is way over the top.
Well a fixed penalty notice would be more than sufficient. It's not a matter of a computer-says-no system. Considering that a child could design a more competent collection system, the only other conclusion is that the system is deliberately rigged to screw people over. Southerners are just so used to getting screwed over from all directions, they meekly accept and get the wallet out - e.g. pay in advance car parks which clamp you if you underestimate or get delayed.
Quote from: armaghniac on July 06, 2015, 01:37:49 PM
If you've missed a few, and are getting letters, they will generally waive most fines if you register an account. Yer man is well past that point.
Not so. Your details are sent off to the English company 24 hours after the toll point has been passed. Registering an account with eFlow will make no difference to what happens with the English firm. If you try to pay the toll even 25 hours after the journey on the website, there is no record of the journey, which forces you to wait until the letter comes from London.
Just pay the toll when you use the M50 or register online for a free account and discounted toll charge. Its not rocket science.
If you don't want to pay the toll, avoid the bloody motorway. Its a choice.
No sympathy for your man and he is just a bloody chancer who likely wants everything but doesn't want to pay for it.
Quote from: Bingo on July 06, 2015, 02:10:38 PM
Just pay the toll when you use the M50 or register online for a free account and discounted toll charge. Its not rocket science.
If you don't want to pay the toll, avoid the bloody motorway. Its a choice.
No sympathy for your man and he is just a bloody chancer who likely wants everything but doesn't want to pay for it.
Northern addresses were not included when the website first opened. As I said, have no issue with the principle of paying a toll, just the potential of a 5000% penalty if I'm five minutes late in paying it.
You have to be 56 days late (https://www.eflow.ie/help-guidance/faqs/what-are-the-payment-dead/) to be hit with a 5000% penalty.
Quote from: Ulick on July 06, 2015, 02:13:43 PM
Quote from: Bingo on July 06, 2015, 02:10:38 PM
Just pay the toll when you use the M50 or register online for a free account and discounted toll charge. Its not rocket science.
If you don't want to pay the toll, avoid the bloody motorway. Its a choice.
No sympathy for your man and he is just a bloody chancer who likely wants everything but doesn't want to pay for it.
Northern addresses were not included when the website first opened. As I said, have no issue with the principle of paying a toll, just the potential of a 5000% penalty if I'm five minutes late in paying it.
I know you know this is totally incorrect. You have ample time to pay it, even when late to avoid paying a higher charge and you shouldn't really have an excuse unless you are leaving the country for a prolonged period. Even at it, paying it and remembering to pay it should be a priority.
Quote from: deiseach on July 06, 2015, 02:16:35 PM
You have to be 56 days late (https://www.eflow.ie/help-guidance/faqs/what-are-the-payment-dead/) to be hit with a 5000% penalty.
Nope, that's not what is happening unless they have northerners on a different system.
Quote from: Bingo on July 06, 2015, 02:26:23 PM
Quote from: Ulick on July 06, 2015, 02:13:43 PM
Quote from: Bingo on July 06, 2015, 02:10:38 PM
Just pay the toll when you use the M50 or register online for a free account and discounted toll charge. Its not rocket science.
If you don't want to pay the toll, avoid the bloody motorway. Its a choice.
No sympathy for your man and he is just a bloody chancer who likely wants everything but doesn't want to pay for it.
Northern addresses were not included when the website first opened. As I said, have no issue with the principle of paying a toll, just the potential of a 5000% penalty if I'm five minutes late in paying it.
I know you know this is totally incorrect. You have ample time to pay it, even when late to avoid paying a higher charge and you shouldn't really have an excuse unless you are leaving the country for a prolonged period. Even at it, paying it and remembering to pay it should be a priority.
I said "potential" penalty of 5000%. If you read my previous posts you'll see how the English company (http://www.epcplc.com/) administrating the scheme have it deliberately arranged ensure that those "potential" circumstances occur a lot more than they should.
Quote from: Ulick on July 06, 2015, 02:41:19 PM
I said "potential" penalty of 5000%. If you read my previous posts you'll see how the English company (http://www.epcplc.com/) administrating the scheme have it deliberately arranged ensure that those "potential" circumstances occur a lot more than they should.
We'd never put up that south of the border. We've got Joe Duffy.
Quote from: Ulick on July 06, 2015, 02:41:19 PM
Quote from: Bingo on July 06, 2015, 02:26:23 PM
Quote from: Ulick on July 06, 2015, 02:13:43 PM
Quote from: Bingo on July 06, 2015, 02:10:38 PM
Just pay the toll when you use the M50 or register online for a free account and discounted toll charge. Its not rocket science.
If you don't want to pay the toll, avoid the bloody motorway. Its a choice.
No sympathy for your man and he is just a bloody chancer who likely wants everything but doesn't want to pay for it.
Northern addresses were not included when the website first opened. As I said, have no issue with the principle of paying a toll, just the potential of a 5000% penalty if I'm five minutes late in paying it.
I know you know this is totally incorrect. You have ample time to pay it, even when late to avoid paying a higher charge and you shouldn't really have an excuse unless you are leaving the country for a prolonged period. Even at it, paying it and remembering to pay it should be a priority.
I said "potential" penalty of 5000%. If you read my previous posts you'll see how the English company (http://www.epcplc.com/) administrating the scheme have it deliberately arranged ensure that those "potential" circumstances occur a lot more than they should.
Easily avoided. Just pay when you should.
Quote from: Bingo on July 06, 2015, 03:20:25 PM
Quote from: Ulick on July 06, 2015, 02:41:19 PM
Quote from: Bingo on July 06, 2015, 02:26:23 PM
Quote from: Ulick on July 06, 2015, 02:13:43 PM
Quote from: Bingo on July 06, 2015, 02:10:38 PM
Just pay the toll when you use the M50 or register online for a free account and discounted toll charge. Its not rocket science.
If you don't want to pay the toll, avoid the bloody motorway. Its a choice.
No sympathy for your man and he is just a bloody chancer who likely wants everything but doesn't want to pay for it.
Northern addresses were not included when the website first opened. As I said, have no issue with the principle of paying a toll, just the potential of a 5000% penalty if I'm five minutes late in paying it.
I know you know this is totally incorrect. You have ample time to pay it, even when late to avoid paying a higher charge and you shouldn't really have an excuse unless you are leaving the country for a prolonged period. Even at it, paying it and remembering to pay it should be a priority.
I said "potential" penalty of 5000%. If you read my previous posts you'll see how the English company (http://www.epcplc.com/) administrating the scheme have it deliberately arranged ensure that those "potential" circumstances occur a lot more than they should.
Easily avoided. Just pay when you should.
Or indeed go a different route if you have some philosophical objection to the above.
Quote from: Bingo on July 06, 2015, 02:10:38 PM
Just pay the toll when you use the M50 or register online for a free account and discounted toll charge. Its not rocket science.
If you don't want to pay the toll, avoid the bloody motorway. Its a choice.
No sympathy for your man and he is just a bloody chancer who likely wants everything but doesn't want to pay for it.
Wish to God someone had told me about this earlier, would have saved me a fortune in fines. Just registered for a video account, seems a brilliant idea. Thanks for that
Surely a bit of black tape and a few 'L's into 'E's etc would solve your problem, if you were so inclined.
Received a letter today from some company EPC PLC about an unpaid M50 toll - I live in the North. The letter looks like it is from eFlow as it has their branded header but the payment is directing you to this EPC PLC crowds website who appear to be UK based. The amount is only 5.79 but it is in GBP. Anyone any experience with this crowd and should I just pay it and be done with it?
Just pay it.
Quote from: angermanagement on July 18, 2019, 05:19:45 PM
Just pay it.
No worries. Am not disputing it. I thought our new car was registered and had forgot all about it. Just wanted to make sure this crowd was legit before making any payment.
Pay it. I've had a bit of handling with them due to my own stupidity. I paid the toll late and got a first fine of 11 euro and as I paid my toll before receiving this letter I stupidly ignored this and then got an 88 euro fine from EPC who are their UK recovery operation it seems. I contacted them and sent them a screenshot of my payment so they waived the fine, but for the sake of the fiver (which is the original toll fee) just get it paid.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 18, 2019, 05:39:09 PM
Pay it. I've had a bit of handling with them due to my own stupidity. I paid the toll late and got a first fine of 11 euro and as I paid my toll before receiving this letter I stupidly ignored this and then got an 88 euro fine from EPC who are their UK recovery operation it seems. I contacted them and sent them a screenshot of my payment so they waived the fine, but for the sake of the fiver (which is the original toll fee) just get it paid.
Cheers. I just wanted to make sure it was legit before paying anything.
I got a message from my leased car company about a unpaid toll, £350 quid they were looking ! Contacted Eflow paid the £6 quid and that was that. I never got an email about it or knew about it as the company has paid it for years and I just thought it was automatically paid!
Live in the north. Had travelled for a job in the far side of Dublin for about 4 weeks and hadn't paid for the M50. Got a EPC letter in the door citing that this was the second time they had sent the letter and were going to go to a debt collecting agency if unpaid. Any of you had this experience, is it genuine threat, any of you been in this position recently?
Quote from: shawshank on April 24, 2023, 11:31:50 AM
Live in the north. Had travelled for a job in the far side of Dublin for about 4 weeks and hadn't paid for the M50. Got a EPC letter in the door citing that this was the second time they had sent the letter and were going to go to a debt collecting agency if unpaid. Any of you had this experience, is it genuine threat, any of you been in this position recently?
Genuinely forgot to pay it and got letter with maybe €80 fine or whatever it is, said f**k that and binned it. Havent heard anything since and this was from October.
Quote from: shawshank on April 24, 2023, 11:31:50 AM
Live in the north. Had travelled for a job in the far side of Dublin for about 4 weeks and hadn't paid for the M50. Got a EPC letter in the door citing that this was the second time they had sent the letter and were going to go to a debt collecting agency if unpaid. Any of you had this experience, is it genuine threat, any of you been in this position recently?
It's a bollox, recently had that group send a letter, this was after I'd tried to pay for the toll but the system wasn't recognising my car reg, so o opened an account and added money to it.
Letter came and after chats with both parties I ended up paying double what was owed!
Eflow have issues with their system not recognising it easier or quicker and this debt chasing agency is handy way for them to get their money regardless
As was said above, contact them and come to an agreement
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on April 24, 2023, 11:41:48 AM
As was said above, contact them and come to an agreement
Absolutely, talk to them. If you agree to open a video account, which will mean that you will inevitably pay in the future, then they are likely to go easy on the past payment.
Quote from: armaghniac on April 24, 2023, 11:54:51 AM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on April 24, 2023, 11:41:48 AM
As was said above, contact them and come to an agreement
Absolutely, talk to them. If you agree to open a video account, which will mean that you will inevitably pay in the future, then they are likely to go easy on the past payment.
Absolutely, and why would any of us want to recognise the border by using it as a means to avoid paying the toll
Be careful how you save money
https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/frustrated-driver-tailgated-unmarked-garda-car-in-dublin-s-port-tunnel/ar-AA19oFMx?li=BBr5MK2
Quote from: armaghniac on April 24, 2023, 06:21:22 PM
Be careful how you save money
https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/frustrated-driver-tailgated-unmarked-garda-car-in-dublin-s-port-tunnel/ar-AA19oFMx?li=BBr5MK2
Would be easier just to have taken plate off and when pulled sat it's just fallen off just haven't got round to putting back on