To mark its 25th year, the Quinn Direct Ulster GAA Writers' Association has selected Ulster Jubilee football and hurling teams from all its award winners over the past 25 years. Some 150 footballers and close to 40 hurlers have collected the coveted Belleek vase since 1988, so the choosing of the final line-ups caused some lively debate amongst the writers.
The 150-plus footballers were 'shortlisted' down to 51 from whom the 'starting 15' will be picked. The jubilee team will join the Ulster GAA Writers and guests at the Jubilee Banquet at the Great Northern Hotel, Bundoran on December 7. A number of tickets are still available for the night.
Click here for the football team nominees:
http://www.ulstergaawriters.com/Jubilee%20football%20team%20nominees.pdf
Not a single Antrim man nominated.
Quote from: dec on November 21, 2012, 09:37:05 PM
Not a single Antrim man nominated.
Who would you nominate from Antrim? They probably make up 3/4 of the hurling nominations
Thats some list to choose from.
Heres my 15. 1 Sean Mc Greevy 2. Chris Lawn or John Lynch 3. Neil Mc Gee 4. Tony Scullion. 5. DJ Kane/Paul Mc Flynn. 6 Tony Mc Entee. 7 Philip Jordan. 8 & 9 Brian Mc Gilligan/Plunkett Donaghy/Enda Mc Ginley. 10 Jonny Mc Bride. 11 John Mc Entee. 12 Mark Mc Hugh. 13 Enda Gormley. 14 Seamus Downey. 15 Wee James/Kevin Madden.
What a joke. For a county that has built their success on defence for Armagh to have only 2 defenders nominated and for one of them to be Aaron Kernan is laughable. Off the top of my head, Enda McNulty, Aidan O'Rourke, Andrew McCann, Colm Hanratty, Andy Mallon and Ciaran McKeever would be selected on an Armagh team of the period ahead of Aaron.
Its a very lazy looking, profile driven list.
To be fair Duffle I think you will find a brave few disagree with you about Aaron Kernan.
Have not read through the whole thing but is the list derived from only those that won monthly awards or were all players considered?
Know 1 man who was the first to win the award twice who didn't make the cut. Also wheres mc gourty?
Another Bullsh*t topic. How many times will such a topic be covered? It is almost as bad as the best province debate.
Some bizarre selections and omissions in there, it seems like more of a populist selection than anything. The most glaring omission is that of Tony Scullion. Not only would he be in the team but he would probably be THEE best defender of the last 25 years. Four all stars ?? and can't even get nominated for this team, farce! Not worth taking seriously.
It would be interesting to see the list of people who have won the award. In fairness the award takes into account Club form as well during the winter months which is why Kernan would feature heavily. Would Andy McCann ever have won the UGWA award?
Quote from: screenexile on November 22, 2012, 11:47:20 AM
It would be interesting to see the list of people who have won the award. In fairness the award takes into account Club form as well during the winter months which is why Kernan would feature heavily. Would Andy McCann ever have won the UGWA award?
http://www.ulstergaawriters.com/page3.html
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on November 22, 2012, 12:27:10 AM
Another Bullsh*t topic. How many times will such a topic be covered? It is almost as bad as the best province debate.
+1
There will always be arguments about who is not nominated. from a Down perepective you have to wonder what more James McCartan would have to have done to get nominated. 2 All Stars, 2 All-Ireland's, 2 Ulster's, Actually also won a Hogan cup during this period. One of the outstanding forwards in Ireland of his generation. Also No Ross Carr, No DJ Kane?
But every county could list several players who clearly should be on the list. I think what is more interesting is the players on the list that shouldn't be there. I mean Paddy O'Rourke, seriously? Great servant and gave 100% but hardly a footballing great. A man who played much more with his heart than his skill. Down had at least half a dozen defenders better than him. Also Brian Burns, who had one good season, maybe two. Even then his one good season was not better than the best seasons of Eammon Burns or Barry Breen (or DJ, Ross...etc). As for other counties - Benny Tierney? Bernard Morris? Paul Devlin?
Like I said if you make a list you will always leave quality players off it, but how do you intentionally include players that are clearly not as good as several who have been left off?
No Phillip Jordan ????
Boys are you all stupid??it is the only people who the monthly awards who are there. Nothing about nominations, if ye played well in a month throughout the 25 years ye win the monthly prize. Thats were the list of names came about. Maybe someone played better than scullion in certain months.
O you guys and your Jubilees ;D When are the awards being presented? Boxing Day perhaps ;)
No Larry Reilly.
A total joke.
Quote from: theticklemister on November 22, 2012, 03:02:39 PM
Boys are you all stupid??it is the only people who the monthly awards who are there. Nothing about nominations, if ye played well in a month throughout the 25 years ye win the monthly prize. Thats were the list of names came about. Maybe someone played better than scullion in certain months.
Exactly. Consistent 8.0's don't count here, you only need one
eye catching performance.
Ulster GAA Writers says it all. No in depth analysis, it will simply be the defender that popped up with a couple of scores or the mid-fielder who made a couple of big catches who gets the headlines.
Yea - thought Philip Jordan's omission was strange but I see he never won a monthly award.
PaulD123 you seem to be judging Paddy O'Rourke on his last couple of seasons in a Down jersey when he captained us to an AI title even though he was plainly past his prime. However, throughout the 1980s and certainly in the early stages of the period covered by this initiative, he was an outstanding centre half who dominated games for club and county and was beyond doubt among the best in the country.
Paddy won All Irelands at minor, u21 and senior level, as well as with his club (twice), his school (St Mark's),his college (Newry Tech) and Ulster in the Railway Cup. It is doubtful if any other Down or even Ulster player has collected All Irelands at seven different levels and you only do that if you are a very special footballer.
No one would say that he dazzled us with pure skill, but for strength, determination and leadership qualities, there have been few to touch him for Down over the last quarter of a century.
Agreed there can be much too much revisionism, Paddy O Rourke and Keiran Mc Geeney carried out the same role for their respective counties.
Quote from: rrhf on November 24, 2012, 12:47:01 PM
Agreed there can be much too much revisionism, Paddy O Rourke and Keiran Mc Geeney carried out the same role for their respective counties.
Reel your fishing line in please!!!!!!!!