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Title: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: Orior on August 31, 2011, 09:48:38 PM
I've up the following chart to grade cleaning category













  EventCategory of Clean
10. When I come homeSame mess I left it in
9. My college mate visits I'm told to go hoover
8. Her sister visits Handheld hoover job that I bought her for Christmas
7. A visit from her mother Upstairs and downstairs hoovered
6. A visit from my motherHoover upstairs and downstairs. Kitchen floor mopped
5. Day before cleaning lady comes Hoover upstairs, downstairs and tidy away clothes on floor
4. President/Occupying Queen visit Hoover downstairs
3. Wife's female colleagues Top to bottom root and branch clean
2. First visit of son's girlfriend Deep clean
1. First visit of son's future mother-in-law Deep clinical clean. Floors scrubbed. New towels, soap, toothpaste, blanket for dog's bed. Kitchen and hall mopped. Sofa cushions puffed up. Anyone who sits on the sofa or walks on the kitchen floor or hall floor risks death.
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: spuds on September 01, 2011, 12:29:36 AM
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Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: Hardy on September 01, 2011, 12:20:08 PM
Never hoover. Nature abhors a vacuum.
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: Rois on September 01, 2011, 01:18:47 PM
Got a cleaner a few weeks ago.  Best £20 I spend in a week.  2hrs and the bathrooms are all cleaned, kitchen floor, living room. 

Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: heffo on September 01, 2011, 01:52:46 PM
Quote from: Rois on September 01, 2011, 01:18:47 PM
Got a cleaner a few weeks ago.  Best £20 I spend in a week.  2hrs and the bathrooms are all cleaned, kitchen floor, living room.

Me too. How did my missus live before we got yer one.
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: thebandit on September 01, 2011, 05:17:59 PM
Me too.... I have an economic argument in favour of it as well -

If you can earn more per hour than you have to pay someone per hour to clean your house, ie you earn €15 per hour and pay €10 per hour

(not even factoring in that they are quicker and better at it than you are),

then you are in fact, saving money! €15-€10 = €5!
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 05:20:07 PM
Can't understand why anyone would hire someone to clean their house. Lazy f**kers the lot of ye if you ask me.
Unless your disabled in someway I don't see why anybody can't clean their own house.
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: Boycey on September 01, 2011, 05:27:41 PM
We have a cleaner who comes once a week and I'd nearly swear the woman tidies up before she comes. I think shes borderline OCD
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: Bingo on September 01, 2011, 05:39:43 PM
I have a cleaner, she there alot of the time and does a decent job. Costs a fortune though, she goes by the name "wife"*.

* - please lads don't tell her I said that.
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: Gaffer on September 01, 2011, 06:49:50 PM
Anyone recommend a good vacuum cleaner .

Housekeeper doing my head in looking a new one   Current one's sh1te apparently. 
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: cicfada on September 01, 2011, 08:46:13 PM
I am a house husband again as I am out of work again for the third time in 3 years  :(  so it is my responsibility to keep the place clean!! And to feed the 3 boys, do the school runs and cook for ourselves as well! Hard bloody  work I tell ya,  hopefully I will pick something up soon enough as my head is starting to wreck! As regards the cleaning, I would mop the floors maybe every 2 days, hoover every other day, I don't mind doing the laundry  either but ironing is a killer! Then there are the lawns, painting and general DIY shit! Thereis a toilet leaking right where the pipe coming into the room meets the s bend! I have tried silicone but it is still leaking! All sensible tips are welcome!!
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: heffo on September 01, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 05:20:07 PM
Can't understand why anyone would hire someone to clean their house. Lazy f**kers the lot of ye if you ask me.
Unless your disabled in someway I don't see why anybody can't clean their own house.

If you got involved in your local club St Bernadettes in Neilstown to the extent some of the posters here are involved you might need a cleaner. Far better though to watch Liverpool sitting on your couch than to be involved in the GAA and not need a cleaner.
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: Minder on September 01, 2011, 10:15:52 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 01, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 05:20:07 PM
Can't understand why anyone would hire someone to clean their house. Lazy f**kers the lot of ye if you ask me.
Unless your disabled in someway I don't see why anybody can't clean their own house.

If you got involved in your local club St Bernadettes in Neilstown to the extent some of the posters here are involved you might need a cleaner. Far better though to watch Liverpool sitting on your couch than to be involved in the GAA and not need a cleaner.

So if your heavily involved in your local Gaa team you need a cleaner ? ???
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: heffo on September 01, 2011, 10:19:00 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 01, 2011, 10:15:52 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 01, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 05:20:07 PM
Can't understand why anyone would hire someone to clean their house. Lazy f**kers the lot of ye if you ask me.
Unless your disabled in someway I don't see why anybody can't clean their own house.

If you got involved in your local club St Bernadettes in Neilstown to the extent some of the posters here are involved you might need a cleaner. Far better though to watch Liverpool sitting on your couch than to be involved in the GAA and not need a cleaner.

So if your heavily involved in your local Gaa team you need a cleaner ? ???

Depends on your involvement - if you're with club and county seven nights a week you do.
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 01, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 05:20:07 PM
Can't understand why anyone would hire someone to clean their house. Lazy f**kers the lot of ye if you ask me.
Unless your disabled in someway I don't see why anybody can't clean their own house.

If you got involved in your local club St Bernadettes in Neilstown to the extent some of the posters here are involved you might need a cleaner. Far better though to watch Liverpool sitting on your couch than to be involved in the GAA and not need a cleaner.

You're a bit of a dick head really aren't you.
My local club is The Harps in Durrow Co.Laois by the way.
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: heffo on September 01, 2011, 11:02:49 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 01, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 05:20:07 PM
Can't understand why anyone would hire someone to clean their house. Lazy f**kers the lot of ye if you ask me.
Unless your disabled in someway I don't see why anybody can't clean their own house.

If you got involved in your local club St Bernadettes in Neilstown to the extent some of the posters here are involved you might need a cleaner. Far better though to watch Liverpool sitting on your couch than to be involved in the GAA and not need a cleaner.

You're a bit of a dick head really aren't you.
My local club is The Harps in Durrow Co.Laois by the way.

Funny I was going to say the same thing about you.

If Durrow is indeed your local club why don't you move back there and give something back to the GAA instead of constantly moaning about Dublin.

St Bernadettes need a dig out - if you are willing to get involved in the GAA let me know.
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 11:12:16 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 01, 2011, 11:02:49 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 01, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 05:20:07 PM
Can't understand why anyone would hire someone to clean their house. Lazy f**kers the lot of ye if you ask me.
Unless your disabled in someway I don't see why anybody can't clean their own house.

If you got involved in your local club St Bernadettes in Neilstown to the extent some of the posters here are involved you might need a cleaner. Far better though to watch Liverpool sitting on your couch than to be involved in the GAA and not need a cleaner.

You're a bit of a dick head really aren't you.
My local club is The Harps in Durrow Co.Laois by the way.

Funny I was going to say the same thing about you.

If Durrow is indeed your local club why don't you move back there and give something back to the GAA instead of constantly moaning about Dublin.

St Bernadettes need a dig out - if you are willing to get involved in the GAA let me know.


Have been involved since I was 6 but sure you know better (typical dub)but thanks for the offer anyway,I'll give Crimeline a ring to see if they have your address and phone number.
Also I know most inner city dubs like yourself leave school before the leaving cert so your geography wouldn't be the best but FYI, I live nearer to Leixlip than I do Neilstown.
Also if you have time to come on here to get so easily offended then surely you have time to give the house a quick hoover?

Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on September 01, 2011, 11:28:48 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 11:12:16 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 01, 2011, 11:02:49 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 01, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 05:20:07 PM
Can't understand why anyone would hire someone to clean their house. Lazy f**kers the lot of ye if you ask me.
Unless your disabled in someway I don't see why anybody can't clean their own house.

If you got involved in your local club St Bernadettes in Neilstown to the extent some of the posters here are involved you might need a cleaner. Far better though to watch Liverpool sitting on your couch than to be involved in the GAA and not need a cleaner.

You're a bit of a dick head really aren't you.
My local club is The Harps in Durrow Co.Laois by the way.

Funny I was going to say the same thing about you.

If Durrow is indeed your local club why don't you move back there and give something back to the GAA instead of constantly moaning about Dublin.

St Bernadettes need a dig out - if you are willing to get involved in the GAA let me know.


Have been involved since I was 6 but sure you know better (typical dub)but thanks for the offer anyway,I'll give Crimeline a ring to see if they have your address and phone number.
Also I know most inner city dubs like yourself leave school before the leaving cert so your geography wouldn't be the best but FYI, I live nearer to Leixlip than I do Neilstown.Also if you have time to come on here to get so easily offended then surely you have time to give the house a quick hoover?

Give Leixlip GAA a dig out instead so LL. They've always been accomodating to those who have had the misfortune to be exiled there - Jack O'Shea, John Divilly, Andrew McCann, Mike Moynihan. They also reserve their hatred for Dubliners and are far more amiable to Laois folk than other Kildare clubs like Athy, Monasterevan and Rheban.
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 11:31:08 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on September 01, 2011, 11:28:48 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 11:12:16 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 01, 2011, 11:02:49 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 01, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 05:20:07 PM
Can't understand why anyone would hire someone to clean their house. Lazy f**kers the lot of ye if you ask me.
Unless your disabled in someway I don't see why anybody can't clean their own house.

If you got involved in your local club St Bernadettes in Neilstown to the extent some of the posters here are involved you might need a cleaner. Far better though to watch Liverpool sitting on your couch than to be involved in the GAA and not need a cleaner.

You're a bit of a dick head really aren't you.
My local club is The Harps in Durrow Co.Laois by the way.

Funny I was going to say the same thing about you.

If Durrow is indeed your local club why don't you move back there and give something back to the GAA instead of constantly moaning about Dublin.

St Bernadettes need a dig out - if you are willing to get involved in the GAA let me know.


Have been involved since I was 6 but sure you know better (typical dub)but thanks for the offer anyway,I'll give Crimeline a ring to see if they have your address and phone number.
Also I know most inner city dubs like yourself leave school before the leaving cert so your geography wouldn't be the best but FYI, I live nearer to Leixlip than I do Neilstown.Also if you have time to come on here to get so easily offended then surely you have time to give the house a quick hoover?

Give Leixlip GAA a dig out instead so LL. They've always been accomodating to those who have had the misfortune to be exiled there - Jack O'Shea, John Divilly, Andrew McCann, Mike Moynihan. They also reserve their hatred for Dubliners and are far more amiable to Laois folk than other Kildare clubs like Athy, Monasterevan and Rheban.

Sure I'm 1/4 Kildare, me gran was from Moone so I should fit in rightly. :)
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: heffo on September 01, 2011, 11:33:53 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 11:12:16 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 01, 2011, 11:02:49 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 01, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 05:20:07 PM
Can't understand why anyone would hire someone to clean their house. Lazy f**kers the lot of ye if you ask me.
Unless your disabled in someway I don't see why anybody can't clean their own house.

If you got involved in your local club St Bernadettes in Neilstown to the extent some of the posters here are involved you might need a cleaner. Far better though to watch Liverpool sitting on your couch than to be involved in the GAA and not need a cleaner.

You're a bit of a dick head really aren't you.
My local club is The Harps in Durrow Co.Laois by the way.

Funny I was going to say the same thing about you.

If Durrow is indeed your local club why don't you move back there and give something back to the GAA instead of constantly moaning about Dublin.

St Bernadettes need a dig out - if you are willing to get involved in the GAA let me know.
but FYI, I live nearer to Leixlip than I do Neilstown.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LJiKr-a4bkA/SwoTquwe-fI/AAAAAAAAD4w/LjQTUojPT6M/s320/Pinocchio_nose_grows.jpg)
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 11:35:13 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 01, 2011, 11:33:53 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 11:12:16 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 01, 2011, 11:02:49 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 01, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 05:20:07 PM
Can't understand why anyone would hire someone to clean their house. Lazy f**kers the lot of ye if you ask me.
Unless your disabled in someway I don't see why anybody can't clean their own house.

If you got involved in your local club St Bernadettes in Neilstown to the extent some of the posters here are involved you might need a cleaner. Far better though to watch Liverpool sitting on your couch than to be involved in the GAA and not need a cleaner.

You're a bit of a dick head really aren't you.
My local club is The Harps in Durrow Co.Laois by the way.

Funny I was going to say the same thing about you.

If Durrow is indeed your local club why don't you move back there and give something back to the GAA instead of constantly moaning about Dublin.

St Bernadettes need a dig out - if you are willing to get involved in the GAA let me know.
but FYI, I live nearer to Leixlip than I do Neilstown.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LJiKr-a4bkA/SwoTquwe-fI/AAAAAAAAD4w/LjQTUojPT6M/s320/Pinocchio_nose_grows.jpg)

You could have had the floors washed by the time it took you to find that picture and post it on here.
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: heffo on September 01, 2011, 11:36:21 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 11:35:13 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 01, 2011, 11:33:53 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 11:12:16 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 01, 2011, 11:02:49 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 01, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 05:20:07 PM
Can't understand why anyone would hire someone to clean their house. Lazy f**kers the lot of ye if you ask me.
Unless your disabled in someway I don't see why anybody can't clean their own house.

If you got involved in your local club St Bernadettes in Neilstown to the extent some of the posters here are involved you might need a cleaner. Far better though to watch Liverpool sitting on your couch than to be involved in the GAA and not need a cleaner.

You're a bit of a dick head really aren't you.
My local club is The Harps in Durrow Co.Laois by the way.

Funny I was going to say the same thing about you.

If Durrow is indeed your local club why don't you move back there and give something back to the GAA instead of constantly moaning about Dublin.

St Bernadettes need a dig out - if you are willing to get involved in the GAA let me know.
but FYI, I live nearer to Leixlip than I do Neilstown.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LJiKr-a4bkA/SwoTquwe-fI/AAAAAAAAD4w/LjQTUojPT6M/s320/Pinocchio_nose_grows.jpg)

You could have had the floors washed by the time it took you to find that picture and post it on here.

I already told you. I pay a cleaner to do that.
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 11:39:27 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 01, 2011, 11:36:21 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 11:35:13 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 01, 2011, 11:33:53 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 11:12:16 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 01, 2011, 11:02:49 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: heffo on September 01, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 05:20:07 PM
Can't understand why anyone would hire someone to clean their house. Lazy f**kers the lot of ye if you ask me.
Unless your disabled in someway I don't see why anybody can't clean their own house.

If you got involved in your local club St Bernadettes in Neilstown to the extent some of the posters here are involved you might need a cleaner. Far better though to watch Liverpool sitting on your couch than to be involved in the GAA and not need a cleaner.

You're a bit of a dick head really aren't you.
My local club is The Harps in Durrow Co.Laois by the way.

Funny I was going to say the same thing about you.

If Durrow is indeed your local club why don't you move back there and give something back to the GAA instead of constantly moaning about Dublin.

St Bernadettes need a dig out - if you are willing to get involved in the GAA let me know.
but FYI, I live nearer to Leixlip than I do Neilstown.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LJiKr-a4bkA/SwoTquwe-fI/AAAAAAAAD4w/LjQTUojPT6M/s320/Pinocchio_nose_grows.jpg)

You could have had the floors washed by the time it took you to find that picture and post it on here.

I already told you. I pay a cleaner to do that.

And I already told you I believe you and anyone else who does that is a lazy f**ker.....
Why you turned it into a Gaa and geography debate I do not know...Obsessed much?
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: Ulick on September 02, 2011, 12:10:08 AM
Quote from: cicfada on September 01, 2011, 08:46:13 PM
I am a house husband again as I am out of work again for the third time in 3 years  :(  so it is my responsibility to keep the place clean!! And to feed the 3 boys, do the school runs and cook for ourselves as well! Hard bloody  work I tell ya,  hopefully I will pick something up soon enough as my head is starting to wreck! As regards the cleaning, I would mop the floors maybe every 2 days, hoover every other day, I don't mind doing the laundry  either but ironing is a killer! Then there are the lawns, painting and general DIY shit! Thereis a toilet leaking right where the pipe coming into the room meets the s bend! I have tried silicone but it is still leaking! All sensible tips are welcome!!

Fair play to you cicfada. I've been doing it this past three months with two boys under two so I know how tough it can be. Re your  leak, you shouldn't need silicone for that kind of joint providing the pipe is going far enough into the s bend - sounds like the rubber seal on the s bend has gone, best to replace it altogether. Should only cost about a fiver in a decent suppliers.
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: Rois on September 02, 2011, 09:46:43 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 10:51:41 PM
Can't understand why anyone would hire someone to clean their house. Lazy f**kers the lot of ye if you ask me.
Unless your disabled in someway I don't see why anybody can't clean their own house.

Away ye go, whilst I shouldn't have to justify it, I work away from home a good bit and I am not too fussed on spending the time I have at home cleaning the four flippin toilets they decided to put in my house.  Who are you to judge people just because they don't see cleaning as a priority in their free time??  I am far from lazy, and on the six days that the cleaner doesn't come, I manage to make sure the house is not a pigsty. 
I imagined, being self employed, that you'd support the home services industry, rather than abuse people who choose to use the services on offer. 
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: irunthev on September 02, 2011, 10:02:51 AM
I've been a house husband for a while now. In our last house I did all the cleaning, ironing cooking everything, but we recently moved to Madrid and here it's normal to have a cleaner.

Some have cleanser who work for them full time and do the cooking shopping etc. When the wife lived here previously she had a full time maid. Now we have a cleaner 4hrs a day five days a week. I have no idea how she manages to find things to do, but she keeps herself busy. I know she's struggling when she starts to hose out the garage.

On a sad note, last week one of her friends (they are both Columbian immigrants) was working at the apartment where she cleaned and was cleaning windows inside when the ladder she was on slipped and the poor woman fell out an open window five floors to her death.

The people she worked for where on holidays and didn't think it necessary to come back for her funeral. She had worked for them for 4 years.

Some people are incredible... and they were only in Germany.. two hours on a plane.
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: laoislad on September 02, 2011, 10:06:12 AM
Quote from: Rois on September 02, 2011, 09:46:43 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 10:51:41 PM
Can't understand why anyone would hire someone to clean their house. Lazy f**kers the lot of ye if you ask me.
Unless your disabled in someway I don't see why anybody can't clean their own house.

Away ye go, whilst I shouldn't have to justify it, I work away from home a good bit and I am not too fussed on spending the time I have at home cleaning the four flippin toilets they decided to put in my house.  Who are you to judge people just because they don't see cleaning as a priority in their free time??  I am far from lazy, and on the six days that the cleaner doesn't come, I manage to make sure the house is not a pigsty. 
I imagined, being self employed, that you'd support the home services industry, rather than abuse people who choose to use the services on offer.

Ah boo hoo hoo poor you..Of course you need someone to come in and clean all of your 4 bathrooms  :D

I never asked you to justify it either,I don't care what you are anyone else spends their money on but I won't change my opinion that unless you are disabled in someway I think anyone that pays someone to clean their house is just plain lazy.
I don't really care if that opinion bothers you or anyone else.
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: gerrykeegan on September 02, 2011, 10:16:58 AM
You wait LL, kids might change your mind, they make a serious mess, its all well and good you and wifey sitting infront of the telly and a few crumbs hit the floor from your Yorkie bar, its easy to tidy up, we have two boys, and you tidy up after them about every hour or so. After your 3rd or 4th Dub child, the wife will turn to you and say, we should get a cleaner in and you will say, thats a good idea!
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: irunthev on September 02, 2011, 10:23:41 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 02, 2011, 10:06:12 AM
Quote from: Rois on September 02, 2011, 09:46:43 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 10:51:41 PM
Can't understand why anyone would hire someone to clean their house. Lazy f**kers the lot of ye if you ask me.
Unless your disabled in someway I don't see why anybody can't clean their own house.

Away ye go, whilst I shouldn't have to justify it, I work away from home a good bit and I am not too fussed on spending the time I have at home cleaning the four flippin toilets they decided to put in my house.  Who are you to judge people just because they don't see cleaning as a priority in their free time??  I am far from lazy, and on the six days that the cleaner doesn't come, I manage to make sure the house is not a pigsty. 
I imagined, being self employed, that you'd support the home services industry, rather than abuse people who choose to use the services on offer.

Ah boo hoo hoo poor you..Of course you need someone to come in and clean all of your 4 bathrooms  :D

I never asked you to justify it either,I don't care what you are anyone else spends their money on but I won't change my opinion that unless you are disabled in someway I think anyone that pays someone to clean their house is just plain lazy.
I don't really care if that opinion bothers you or anyone else.

Funny the opinion here in Spain would be that there are a lot of unskilled immigrants here from South America and the work area that they find employment in is in the cleaning / nanny sector. So it is actually a very important part of the economy here.

Many are employed formally by the people they work for, they pay tax and have paid holidays etc. If people weren't prepared to employ these immigrants, then it would be an extra burden on an already crumbling state. For the most part they are hardworking and honest people, who don't always get the respect they deserve.

Our lady has said to us in the past that we treat her very well and the simple answer to that is that we treat her no differently to anyone else we know. My parents both worked as cleaners, my wife's parents both worked as cleaners and for more than ten years I worked as a cleaner. Why wouldn't I treat her with respect? She is no different from me... the only thing that separates us is a bit of good fortune.

The lady who works for us is in her mid 50s and divorced. She came to Spain 12 years ago, has six kids, 5 of whom still live in Columbia. She shares a small flat here with a daughter (who works for McDonalds) and a granddaughter. She is going back to Columbia for the first time in 6 years this Christmas and is having to pay for her ticket on an installment plan. She regularly pawns items of value in order to get by. Our giving her a job, while it is a luxury for us, makes a huge difference in her life.

Don't get me wrong, it is a pure luxury and there is no place on earth where snobbery is more alive and kicking than here in Madrid. I have seen WAG types strolling around the supermarket pointing at shelves while some pure Peruvian maid, dressed as a maid, pushes the trolley around behind here loading it up as she demands. You'd feel like kicking the WAG up the backside and telling her to have an ounce of respect for the poor woman who gets up every morning with the sole purpose of tending to your every whim..

Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 02, 2011, 10:25:44 AM
Quote from: Rois on September 02, 2011, 09:46:43 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2011, 10:51:41 PM
Can't understand why anyone would hire someone to clean their house. Lazy f**kers the lot of ye if you ask me.
Unless your disabled in someway I don't see why anybody can't clean their own house.

Away ye go, whilst I shouldn't have to justify it, I work away from home a good bit and I am not too fussed on spending the time I have at home cleaning the four flippin toilets they decided to put in my house.  Who are you to judge people just because they don't see cleaning as a priority in their free time??  I am far from lazy, and on the six days that the cleaner doesn't come, I manage to make sure the house is not a pigsty. 
I imagined, being self employed, that you'd support the home services industry, rather than abuse people who choose to use the services on offer.
I'm more interested in who is shitting in your toilet when you are working away so much.
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: Bingo on September 02, 2011, 10:27:44 AM
Its all relative and what you consider value for money. I don't have one and have two kids under 3.

Some people will find it worth it to free up their time and after a working week looki forward to spending time with their kids or outdoors doing stuff or even just sitting on their arse watching the premiership.
Some people don't see the value in it when a little bit of work every day in the house with a few good hours on a saturday morning does all that is required to keep the house in order.

The only gripe I'd have is with people who have a cleaner yet are on the dole or moaning about finding things tight/self employed but don't pay their bills, drive the big cars etc etc.
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: laoislad on September 02, 2011, 10:35:46 AM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on September 02, 2011, 10:16:58 AM
You wait LL, kids might change your mind, they make a serious mess, its all well and good you and wifey sitting infront of the telly and a few crumbs hit the floor from your Yorkie bar, its easy to tidy up, we have two boys, and you tidy up after them about every hour or so. After your 3rd or 4th Dub child, the wife will turn to you and say, we should get a cleaner in and you will say, thats a good idea!

Won't happen gerry. There was 6 of us growing up and my parents didn't need a cleaner and both of them worked.
As Bingo said a bit of cleaning in the evening makes it easy to do a few hours on a Saturday morning.

Btw by the time we have a 3rd or 4th child we won't be living in Dublin!
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: Rois on September 02, 2011, 10:39:50 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 02, 2011, 10:06:12 AM
I never asked you to justify it either,I don't care what you are anyone else spends their money on but I won't change my opinion that unless you are disabled in someway I think anyone that pays someone to clean their house is just plain lazy.
I don't really care if that opinion bothers you or anyone else.

See it sounds like you do care because you've actively posted that people who have cleaners are lazy!

Anyway, it costs me £20 per week and I pay for it by making my own lunch.  Anyone who spends €8 or €10 per day on lunch is lazy.  There.  Same thing. 
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: Bingo on September 02, 2011, 10:41:54 AM
Anyone who sends £/€20 a week on petrol/diesel is lazy.

Walk or get a bike.

(this could go on and on)
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: Rois on September 02, 2011, 10:48:08 AM
Quote from: Bingo on September 02, 2011, 10:41:54 AM
Anyone who sends £/€20 a week on petrol/diesel is lazy.

Walk or get a bike.

(this could go on and on)

Depends where they send it  :P

Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: laoislad on September 02, 2011, 10:48:23 AM
Quote from: Rois on September 02, 2011, 10:39:50 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 02, 2011, 10:06:12 AM
I never asked you to justify it either,I don't care what you are anyone else spends their money on but I won't change my opinion that unless you are disabled in someway I think anyone that pays someone to clean their house is just plain lazy.
I don't really care if that opinion bothers you or anyone else.

See it sounds like you do care because you've actively posted that people who have cleaners are lazy!


If it stops you feeling guilty Rois then I'll let you believe that so..


Btw I'm still waiting on that O'Neills reps number you were suppose to get for me two years ago!
I guess after this morning I have no hope of getting it now...
Wouldn't be the first time I pissed off a hot chick  ;)
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: muppet on September 02, 2011, 10:51:27 AM
Quote from: Bingo on September 02, 2011, 10:41:54 AM
Anyone who sends £/€20 a week on petrol/diesel is lazy.

Walk or get a bike.

(this could go on and on)

I can see Laoislad in a few years:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo)
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: laoislad on September 02, 2011, 10:59:00 AM
I take back everything I said, I think I actually will get a cleaner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BmFBtOVhb0
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 02, 2011, 06:59:33 PM
Laoislad I wouldnt see you as a boy that would do much cleaning around the house?
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: laoislad on September 02, 2011, 07:41:22 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 02, 2011, 06:59:33 PM
Laoislad I wouldnt see you as a boy that would do much cleaning around the house?
I dunno why you'd think that.
We share most of cleaning but I do most of it now that she is 6 months pregnant.
Title: Re: How clean is your house kept?
Post by: Minder on September 02, 2011, 07:47:42 PM
Unless your living in some sort of country mansion I don't know how anyone needs a cleaner. Kids do make a mess, when they do clean it up.