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Title: The Killing
Post by: BerfArmagh on July 08, 2011, 10:09:56 AM
Anyone watch the season opener of this last night, cracking stuff, can't wait for the next episode. I have been depressed since I finished the 'Wire', looks like this could be a replacement
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: BerfArmagh on July 08, 2011, 10:22:04 AM
yes it was touch and go there for a while
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: muppet on July 08, 2011, 10:34:49 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 08, 2011, 10:16:53 AM
Quote from: BerfArmagh on July 08, 2011, 10:09:56 AM
Anyone watch the season opener of this last night, cracking stuff, can't wait for the next episode. I have been depressed since I finished the 'Wire', looks like this could be a replacement

Jeez, sorry to hear that. Hope this lifts your spirits.

Maybe we could chip in a get him a new 'Wire'?
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: BerfArmagh on July 08, 2011, 10:56:43 AM
Hilarious
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: blewuporstuffed on July 08, 2011, 11:44:31 AM
Quote from: BerfArmagh on July 08, 2011, 10:09:56 AM
Anyone watch the season opener of this last night, cracking stuff, can't wait for the next episode. I have been depressed since I finished the 'Wire', looks like this could be a replacement

what channel?
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: BerfArmagh on July 08, 2011, 11:49:54 AM
4, you might be able to get it on the C4 iplayer (If there is one!)
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: HiMucker on July 08, 2011, 12:10:53 PM
Quote from: BerfArmagh on July 08, 2011, 11:49:54 AM
4, you might be able to get it on the C4 iplayer (If there is one!)
There is.  Its called four on demand and its quite good.  Its on all PS3s
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: Abble on July 08, 2011, 12:34:28 PM
watched it Berfa...how long does it run for ?
enjoyed it, should be plenty more twists n turns i'd say to this one
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: laoislad on July 08, 2011, 12:40:44 PM
Quote from: HiMucker on July 08, 2011, 12:10:53 PM
Quote from: BerfArmagh on July 08, 2011, 11:49:54 AM
4, you might be able to get it on the C4 iplayer (If there is one!)
There is.  Its called four on demand and its quite good.  Its on all PS3s

Must be UK only as I only have RTE Player on my PS3
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 08, 2011, 12:44:51 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 08, 2011, 12:40:44 PM
Quote from: HiMucker on July 08, 2011, 12:10:53 PM
Quote from: BerfArmagh on July 08, 2011, 11:49:54 AM
4, you might be able to get it on the C4 iplayer (If there is one!)
There is.  Its called four on demand and its quite good.  Its on all PS3s

Must be UK only as I only have RTE Player on my PS3
Are you saying "the north" is part of the UK? etc. etc.  ;)
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: BerfArmagh on July 08, 2011, 03:06:49 PM
Quote from: Abble on July 08, 2011, 12:34:28 PM
watched it Berfa...how long does it run for ?
enjoyed it, should be plenty more twists n turns i'd say to this one

I think there is a further 5/6 episodes, aye looks to be a good oul head melter... My moneys on the teacher or the blondie haired political advisior
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: Billys Boots on July 08, 2011, 04:17:13 PM
You should have watched the Danish original version (Forbrydelsen) on BBC4 on Saturday nights - it's very good (the US version too) and there's 13 episodes.
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: mountainboii on July 08, 2011, 06:06:33 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on July 08, 2011, 04:17:13 PM
You should have watched the Danish original version (Forbrydelsen) on BBC4 on Saturday nights - it's very good (the US version too) and there's 13 episodes.

Good decision to cut it to 13 episodes. The original lost its way a bit in the middle with the full 20.
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: Abble on July 08, 2011, 07:39:30 PM
Quote from: BerfArmagh on July 08, 2011, 03:06:49 PM
Quote from: Abble on July 08, 2011, 12:34:28 PM
watched it Berfa...how long does it run for ?
enjoyed it, should be plenty more twists n turns i'd say to this one

I think there is a further 5/6 episodes, aye looks to be a good oul head melter... My moneys on the teacher or the blondie haired political advisior

I'm guessing at this early stage the college headmaster (mind they crossed paths in the big hall after everyone cleared out, words were exchanged), he had some kind of a dislike for the politician bloke (but now i'm thinking maybe he also knows something about the politicans past), so possibly some kind of link to the cuplrits !
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 08, 2011, 07:53:21 PM
Have this to watch on sky+. I hope Capt Pat hasn't seen it.
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: rolloutking on July 08, 2011, 10:05:57 PM
QuoteI have been depressed since I finished the 'Wire', looks like this could be a replacement

Such a statement to come out with
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: BerfArmagh on July 09, 2011, 10:05:58 AM
Quote from: rolloutking on July 08, 2011, 10:05:57 PM
QuoteI have been depressed since I finished the 'Wire', looks like this could be a replacement

Such a statement to come out with
Figure of speech..... get over it....
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 09, 2011, 03:10:51 PM
Its finished here about a month now - have to see the original - but I've heard they are completely different
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: Main Street on July 10, 2011, 08:30:30 PM
Quote from: AFS on July 08, 2011, 06:06:33 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on July 08, 2011, 04:17:13 PM
You should have watched the Danish original version (Forbrydelsen) on BBC4 on Saturday nights - it's very good (the US version too) and there's 13 episodes.

Good decision to cut it to 13 episodes. The original lost its way a bit in the middle with the full 20.

or you lost your way  :)
The Danish version was top quality from start to finish.
The US version is NOT cut to just 13 episodes.

The first series has 13 episodes and we (the discerning viewer) are only up to Orpheus Descending, it concludes when the politician got arrested. There is a second series to come.
The US version is bleaker imo,  classic film noir and it's always raining.
Having seen the Danish version first, I already know the plot twists so the all important tension is not there for me.
I've seen all 13 episodes of the first series and it's a first class remake of an excellent original. Actually I was surprised by it.

Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: mountainboii on July 10, 2011, 09:19:21 PM
Maybe it was just me that lost my way, but I doubt it. I thought it slumped for four of five episodes in the middle, when things got a bit formulaic. They kept turning to new prime suspects, but with 7 or 8 episodes remaining you could always be sure that the new guy would be cleared an episode or two later, with someone else then becoming the focus of attention. I think it's telling that the second series only got 10 episodes. Interesting that the US version is effectively 26 episodes then.
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: Main Street on July 10, 2011, 10:20:37 PM
It doesn't tell anything that the the  second series (Forbrydelsen 2) has only 10 episodes. The 2nd series has little to do with the first, it's a completly different investigation.

The Danish version of Forbrydelsen 1,  had 20 x one hour long episodes, each episode took in a day of the 20 day investigation, it was split into 2 series but the punters couldn't wait until the next season and transmission of the 2nd bunch of 10 episodes was brought forward.
The US version has 45 min long episode and split up into 2 series of 13 episodes each, still makes 20 hours of drama.
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: mountainboii on July 10, 2011, 10:49:57 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 10, 2011, 10:20:37 PM
It doesn't tell anything that the the  second series (Forbrydelsen 2) has only 10 episodes. The 2nd series has little to do with the first, it's a completly different investigation.

The police investigation in the second series follows very similar trends to that of the first. There's the same 'identify suspect, exonerate suspect, find next suspect, etc.' pattern. The shorter series length doesn't allow this to bore as much as it did in the middle of the first series. Maybe this was more by accident than design, but I thought the tighter format worked better.
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: Main Street on July 11, 2011, 11:12:28 AM
Personally I didn't get into Forbrydelsen 2,  I didn't follow it as avidly as yourself.

Forbrydelsen 1 was a critical and viewer success. I see the BBC 4 viewing figures were very good and those figures grew as the investigation unravelled. The '20 episodes being too long' argument doesn't hold water where it matters. It's very rare that a such a prolonged, slow burn investigation, subtitled to boot, works on screen and grabs the viewers. The 20 hour  format worked. Because it would not work a second time or would be nigh impossible to pull off, is no reflection on Forbrydelsen 1.


Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: Billys Boots on July 11, 2011, 11:37:50 AM
I liked both Forbrydelsens, but as you say they were different, both from story and style perspectives, and am looking forward to Forbrydelsen-3 when it happens.
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: BerfArmagh on July 15, 2011, 09:54:06 AM
Good episode last night, the two young bucks are in a spot of bother.... only downside is the adverts, far too many of them.... i see an investment in the box set coming
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on July 15, 2011, 11:14:34 AM
Aye, thanks for the heads up on this chap; managed to tape the repeat of the 1st episode on wed nite, then watched it and last nites in one foul swoop :)
decent viewing;

sky plus works a treat for this sort of stuff, just tune in 20min after she starts, and fast forward the numerous ads.....
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: Celt_Man on September 17, 2011, 09:01:19 PM
Just after finishing the last episode of the US Version there now... fairly entertaining stuff - could be accused of hopping around suspects a wee bit too much but that's probably being over critical.  I enjoy it anyway.... 

Any point in watching the original series now that I've seen the US one?
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: maggie on September 17, 2011, 10:07:50 PM
After 13weeks thought it was a pretty lousy ending to it.
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: Celt_Man on September 18, 2011, 01:33:55 PM
Quote from: maggie on September 17, 2011, 10:07:50 PM
After 13weeks thought it was a pretty lousy ending to it.

Ahh no, I didn't... I think sometimes people can be disappointed if a series doesn't end with everything tided up and with a bow on it
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: cadence on September 18, 2011, 09:11:26 PM
haven't seen the us remake but am a nut for the danish v. the acting is so good that i can't imagine any of the characters playing anyone else. defining roles for a lot of them in my eyes. that actress is sarah lund, she can never be anyone else for me. + i love all the political intrigue and also how they used stereotypes to make us suspect a character though our biased attitudes and then dump us on our asses each time and show us the error of our ways. the stereotype angle was one of the elements of the show i really enjoyed, because suspicion was created subtley, i willingly took the bait each time it was feed to me even when it was just bait. great plot. nice and twisty.
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: Orangemac on September 18, 2011, 10:02:23 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 18, 2011, 01:33:55 PM
Quote from: maggie on September 17, 2011, 10:07:50 PM
After 13weeks thought it was a pretty lousy ending to it.

Ahh no, I didn't... I think sometimes people can be disappointed if a series doesn't end with everything tided up and with a bow on it
Missed the Danish version on BBC3 but think this was the best drama that has been on in years even if the end could have been a bit more clear cut.
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 18, 2011, 10:04:23 PM
Quote from: Orangemac on September 18, 2011, 10:02:23 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 18, 2011, 01:33:55 PM
Quote from: maggie on September 17, 2011, 10:07:50 PM
After 13weeks thought it was a pretty lousy ending to it.

Ahh no, I didn't... I think sometimes people can be disappointed if a series doesn't end with everything tided up and with a bow on it
Missed the Danish version on BBC3 but think this was the best drama that has been on in years even if the end could have been a bit more clear cut.
You don't get a second series if you tie up all the loose ends at the end of the first series.
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: Billys Boots on September 19, 2011, 09:41:57 AM
The first Danish series was a 20-episode piece; I understand that the American version (not having seen it) was split into two seasons, so at this point they've only showed the first half, if you catch my drift.  There has also been a second Danish series with a completely different story, probably (in my opinion) better than the first series, and there's a third series currently in production. 
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: Minder on September 24, 2011, 11:02:07 PM
Just finished Danish version, and it is about as engrossing as television gets.
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: Minder on September 24, 2011, 11:20:36 PM
Forgot to say, I thought it was Vagn at the very start. :P
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 24, 2011, 11:28:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 24, 2011, 11:02:07 PM
Just finished Danish version, and it is about as engrossing as television gets.
Queer.
Title: Re: The Killing
Post by: Minder on September 24, 2011, 11:35:51 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 24, 2011, 11:28:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 24, 2011, 11:02:07 PM
Just finished Danish version, and it is about as engrossing as television gets.
Queer.

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