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Title: The Ashes
Post by: Square Ball on November 24, 2010, 10:21:29 PM
Well its nearly here, the Ashes series between good old Blighty and the Aussies and I am pissed off with it already. All over the papers, all over the news, and theres another 2 moths of it to fecking go......
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: ONeill on November 24, 2010, 10:30:28 PM
...and now it's on the board.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Square Ball on November 24, 2010, 10:32:26 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 24, 2010, 10:30:28 PM
...and now it's on the board.
Oh the irony
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: ross4life on November 24, 2010, 10:36:38 PM
So it's not a thread about cremation then?
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: ziggysego on November 24, 2010, 10:37:51 PM
2 months? Seriously?
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on November 24, 2010, 10:51:02 PM
i enjoy a bit of cricket, England 3-1
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: armaghniac on November 24, 2010, 10:53:59 PM
Ashes to Ashes was quite good. Nice car.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 24, 2010, 10:55:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 24, 2010, 10:30:28 PM
...and now it's on the board.

should that not be bored.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Hardy on November 24, 2010, 11:21:16 PM
Who wins it? I need to know who to back.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: DuffleKing on November 25, 2010, 12:00:13 AM

England win the toss and elect to bat. lively pitch supposedly.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: stephenite on November 25, 2010, 12:01:57 AM
England won the toss and elected to bat.

England strong favourites Hardy-but sure you'd nevber know, it's a funny old game at the end of the day and you'll always need a bit of luck
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: DuffleKing on November 25, 2010, 12:05:02 AM

Strauss gone third ball. brutal shot to gulley
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: tyroneboi on November 25, 2010, 12:08:27 AM
I fancy the English to retain the ashes maybe with a 2-2 or 3-1 series score. KP and Swanny to be the main men!
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: stephenite on November 25, 2010, 04:18:42 AM
4/154 - Peter Siddle taking two after lunch
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: David McKeown on November 25, 2010, 08:16:13 AM
I don't understand how England are favourites, admittedly they are a better team but they will be playing on wickets, where historically they have been unable to get any swing movement.  That will leave their attack almost completely toothless
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Aerlik on November 25, 2010, 09:29:52 AM
Great show by (ahem) us  :P today.

I'll be at the Perth games.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Capt Pat on November 25, 2010, 11:40:43 AM
Siddle got a hat trick when England were 194-4. 250 all out. Australia. 25-0.

You have to go with the Aussies, they always find someone to step up and play and Siddle did it today.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: seafoid on November 25, 2010, 11:50:52 AM
I love the Ashes. There is a touch of the Mayo fuball supporter mental condition about the English cricket fan anytime Australia is the opponent.

Australia are like the old Seán Boylan Meath. Can never be written off.   
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: the Deel Rover on November 25, 2010, 01:43:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 25, 2010, 11:50:52 AM
I love the Ashes. There is a touch of the Mayo fuball supporter mental condition about the English cricket fan anytime Australia is the opponent. Australia are like the old Seán Boylan Meath. Can never be written off.

what county are Australia ?
Title: The ashes 2010
Post by: pullhard on November 27, 2010, 10:15:39 AM
Anyone following it this year? Am just follwing by reading reports, dont have sky or will to pull all nighters.
England favourites and deservedly so, got off to a poor start on day one, the ozzies have punished them for it the next two days. Sets it up for a great final two days!
Title: Re: The ashes 2010
Post by: Square Ball on November 27, 2010, 10:16:23 AM
already one started
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Square Ball on November 27, 2010, 10:18:03 AM
England getting hammered at the minite, slap it up them
Title: Re: The ashes 2010
Post by: pullhard on November 27, 2010, 10:22:57 AM
Just seen that one, how do i pull the thread?
Title: Re: The ashes 2010
Post by: Denn Forever on November 27, 2010, 11:13:43 AM
There is a button beside the quote, modify, delete buttons on your first post.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Capt Pat on November 27, 2010, 11:16:55 PM
Hussey and Hadden as well as Siddle bowling have combined to put England in trouble, they really need Pietersen and Strauss to step up and drag the team out of this mess with the bat. No way back, I think.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: tyroneboi on November 27, 2010, 11:22:08 PM
I think England will squeeze a draw out of this game. The likes of Collingwood and Trott will take no risks whatsoever with their wicket and will more than likely bat all day tomorrow. I hate thon Collingwood bastid!
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: stephenite on November 28, 2010, 04:34:33 AM
Strauss hit 110, Cook is currently on 90, England having a great day with the bat
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: stephenite on November 28, 2010, 05:13:30 AM
Cook also brings up a century-fascinating game
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: millveiw on November 28, 2010, 05:23:19 AM
maybe england to win if the can up the run rate
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: stephenite on November 28, 2010, 07:34:02 AM
Bad light stops play-England will probably bat to a lead of 250 + and give the Aussies about 40 overs to try and chase. Looking at the forecast the Queensland weather might play a part yet
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: sammymaguire on November 28, 2010, 09:27:07 AM
Do they play the Ashes every year now?
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: stephenite on November 28, 2010, 09:45:29 AM
It's played every 2 years but because the venue alternates between hemisphere's and cricket is played in Summer the time between each series changes
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: muppet on November 28, 2010, 02:12:50 PM
How can an activity that includes 'lunch' and 'tea' be considered a sport?

Surely it should be categorised as a negotiation or something.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: DuffleKing on November 29, 2010, 02:25:09 AM

There has to be question marks over Mitchell Johnson's action surely?
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: stephenite on November 29, 2010, 02:43:04 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on November 29, 2010, 02:25:09 AM

There has to be question marks over Mitchell Johnson's action surely?

What's wrong with it (apart from the fact it's not working?)
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: stephenite on November 29, 2010, 08:22:50 AM
Probably fairest result
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Aerlik on November 29, 2010, 10:40:35 AM
Quote from: stephenite on November 28, 2010, 05:13:30 AM
Cook also brings up a century-fascinating game

More like shite attacking play by "us". 
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: stephenite on November 29, 2010, 11:07:34 AM
Quote from: Aerlik on November 29, 2010, 10:40:35 AM
Quote from: stephenite on November 28, 2010, 05:13:30 AM
Cook also brings up a century-fascinating game

More like shite attacking play by "us".

Somewhat and not really, after Day 1 it was a batsmans paradise.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: screenexile on November 29, 2010, 11:08:59 AM
Sounds like it was some turnaround I though England would struggle given the opening they had! I still couldn't sit and watch a whole innings though.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: ceiphas50 on November 29, 2010, 02:20:14 PM
Quote from: screenexile on November 29, 2010, 11:08:59 AM
Sounds like it was some turnaround I though England would struggle given the opening they had! I still couldn't sit and watch a whole innings though.
If i was out in australia i could do it ;D but it was fairly hard even to watch the highlights  for englands last innings...
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: stephenite on December 03, 2010, 05:34:49 AM
Aussie 5/182 on first day of second test in Adelaide. Both Simon Katich and Ricky Ponting were dismissed for ducks, with Ponting's being golden. Hussey on 82, to think there experts that wanted him dropped
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Never beat the deeler on December 03, 2010, 07:03:41 AM
Aussies 236 for 8 now on what was supposed to be a batsmans pitch!
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Never beat the deeler on December 03, 2010, 07:25:26 AM
245 all out with Morgan making a brief appearance!
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: magpie seanie on December 05, 2010, 01:12:24 AM
Anyone watching? England continuing to dominate even though they lost Cook. Aussie bowling looks very lightweight.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: BennyHarp on December 05, 2010, 01:28:32 AM
England looking very confident! My work mates always said that if England could get Pietersen in form then the Aussies would be scared! Sure they picked a bowling attack just to get KP in left arm spinner Xavier Doherty! Clearly not working!
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Square Ball on December 05, 2010, 01:32:20 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on December 05, 2010, 01:12:24 AM
Anyone watching? England continuing to dominate even though they lost Cook. Aussie bowling looks very lightweight.


yeah watching now, pains me to say this but England in the box seat
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: deiseach on December 05, 2010, 10:15:06 AM
I get the feeling the weather is going to save Australia. Quite the change from when it was England fans asking whether it was cowardly to pray for rain (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2005/dec/21/ashes2005.ashes2).
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: stephenite on December 05, 2010, 10:39:10 AM
Forecast certainly looks like it might save them but nothing can save them and the selectors from the Aussie media. Doherty was picked with KP in mind and he made a fool out of him and the rest of the Australian attack. Impressed with England
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: deiseach on December 05, 2010, 10:47:48 AM
Quote from: stephenite on December 05, 2010, 10:39:10 AM
Forecast certainly looks like it might save them but nothing can save them and the selectors from the Aussie media. Doherty was picked with KP in mind and he made a fool out of him and the rest of the Australian attack. Impressed with England

Do you think they could have done anything differently? They were damned if they did etc with Mitchell Johnson and the talent just doesn't seem to be there in Oz. Not that such considerations would enter the head of the average hack.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: turk on December 05, 2010, 10:54:54 PM
Where is Brett Lee? He must be injured is he?
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: turk on December 05, 2010, 11:29:37 PM
OK! thanks
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 06, 2010, 12:13:36 AM
England have just declared. With a lead of 375, effectively England have over a day and a half to bowl the Aussies out for victory.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: stephenite on December 06, 2010, 12:26:41 AM
Quote from: deiseach on December 05, 2010, 10:47:48 AM
Quote from: stephenite on December 05, 2010, 10:39:10 AM
Forecast certainly looks like it might save them but nothing can save them and the selectors from the Aussie media. Doherty was picked with KP in mind and he made a fool out of him and the rest of the Australian attack. Impressed with England

Do you think they could have done anything differently? They were damned if they did etc with Mitchell Johnson and the talent just doesn't seem to be there in Oz. Not that such considerations would enter the head of the average hack.

Agreed, talent not there. Instead the selectors are trying to find the next Warne and thowing young fellas like Xavier Doherty into the deep end because of 1 or 2 impressive first class displays - Doherty will probably never play Test cricet again on the back of this whereas if he was given time to mature he might have had some chance. They did same with Krezja
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 06, 2010, 12:32:56 AM
England are 8/11 to win this - surely a bit of value there.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: DuffleKing on December 06, 2010, 01:21:28 AM
Dunno - it will take serious work to dismiss australia. The aussies have as much batting talent as the poms.
If australia can get out of this with a draw I reckon they'll go on and win the series.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Denn Forever on December 06, 2010, 01:56:27 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 06, 2010, 12:32:56 AM
England are 8/11 to win this - surely a bit of value there.

Didn't think it was a problem in Australia, but rain expected tomorrow.  If Australia can hold out till then, expect recriminations for England not declaring earlier.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 07, 2010, 01:03:45 AM
Some hiding there!!
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Aerlik on December 07, 2010, 03:19:15 AM
Not sure which is worse, England gloating or Ricky Ponting making excuses. 
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: deiseach on December 07, 2010, 09:17:53 AM
Had Australia batted for another 100 mins, discounting lunch, they would have weathered the storm (ho ho). Close shave for England but that makes it all the sweeter, particularly after what happened in Cardiff last year. Hard to see such a puny Australian attack winning two out of the three remaining Tests
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: BennyHarp on December 07, 2010, 09:47:46 AM
Quote from: deiseach on December 07, 2010, 09:17:53 AM
Had Australia batted for another 100 mins, discounting lunch, they would have weathered the storm (ho ho). Close shave for England but that makes it all the sweeter, particularly after what happened in Cardiff last year. Hard to see such a puny Australian attack winning two out of the three remaining Tests

A close shave? They won by an innings and 71 runs??
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: deiseach on December 07, 2010, 10:25:05 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on December 07, 2010, 09:47:46 AM
Quote from: deiseach on December 07, 2010, 09:17:53 AM
Had Australia batted for another 100 mins, discounting lunch, they would have weathered the storm (ho ho). Close shave for England but that makes it all the sweeter, particularly after what happened in Cardiff last year. Hard to see such a puny Australian attack winning two out of the three remaining Tests

A close shave? They won by an innings and 71 runs??

Had Australia batted until the rains came, it would have been a draw. A close shave
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: BennyHarp on December 07, 2010, 12:30:40 PM
Quote from: deiseach on December 07, 2010, 10:25:05 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on December 07, 2010, 09:47:46 AM
Quote from: deiseach on December 07, 2010, 09:17:53 AM
Had Australia batted for another 100 mins, discounting lunch, they would have weathered the storm (ho ho). Close shave for England but that makes it all the sweeter, particularly after what happened in Cardiff last year. Hard to see such a puny Australian attack winning two out of the three remaining Tests

A close shave? They won by an innings and 71 runs??

Had Australia batted until the rains came, it would have been a draw. A close shave

But they didnt!! Had England bowled them out, needed another 200 runs to win the test and just got them before the rain came - id say that would be a close shave! England where so dominant in their attack AND had an innings to spare that this test match couid never be called a close shave.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Aerlik on December 17, 2010, 02:52:46 PM
Been to the first two days of the third test here in Perth and, well, I must say I have been pleasantly surprised.

Firstly, television makes a cricket pitch look huge and fastbowlers look slow.  Wrong on both counts.  The speed of the bowlers combined with the hand-eye coordination of the batsmen was quite impressive.

The Barmy Army are quite a decent bunch.  They advertise themselves as the polar opposite to English soccer fans and I'd say that is a fair comment.  Mind you their numbers in Perth have been more than slightly bolstered by the population of ex-pat Englanders in Perth.  Even saw a woman wearing an Ipswich Town shirt, and a fella with a Maigh Eo shirt. Hmmmm.  However, it's about time they changed the repertoire of "songs".  GSTQ, Rule Britannia, and the dambusters ad-nauseum.

Where the hell is "Clabby"?  Saw a fleg from the Oppressed Wee Cesspit with this. 

Great work from the aussies today with Johnson's 6/38 pretty damned special.

But jaysus was it hot today.  Not feeling the best now having been out in the sun for so long.  Bed for me.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Denn Forever on December 17, 2010, 03:54:55 PM
You were lucky you went those days.  13 wickets in one day?  Almost 20/20 like. 

What will Australia need to get to win?  England can't be as bad again batting or was it the Aussie bowling attack?

Why were you surprised?  Best way to watch cricket is with a few tins and a good book for the boring bits and you have the weather.  Is there an I'm Jealous emoticon?
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Doogie Browser on December 17, 2010, 04:03:48 PM
Ponting having a nightmare with the bat so far.
Biggest story of the Ashes for me has been Shane Warne and Liz Hurley!!
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: leaveherinsir on December 17, 2010, 10:55:41 PM
Quote from: Aerlik on December 17, 2010, 02:52:46 PM
Been to the first two days of the third test here in Perth and, well, I must say I have been pleasantly surprised.

Firstly, television makes a cricket pitch look huge and fastbowlers look slow.  Wrong on both counts.  The speed of the bowlers combined with the hand-eye coordination of the batsmen was quite impressive.

The Barmy Army are quite a decent bunch.  They advertise themselves as the polar opposite to English soccer fans and I'd say that is a fair comment.  Mind you their numbers in Perth have been more than slightly bolstered by the population of ex-pat Englanders in Perth.  Even saw a woman wearing an Ipswich Town shirt, and a fella with a Maigh Eo shirt. Hmmmm.  However, it's about time they changed the repertoire of "songs".  GSTQ, Rule Britannia, and the dambusters ad-nauseum.

Where the hell is "Clabby"?  Saw a fleg from the Oppressed Wee Cesspit with this. 

Great work from the aussies today with Johnson's 6/38 pretty damned special.

But jaysus was it hot today.  Not feeling the best now having been out in the sun for so long.  Bed for me.
Roy Keane's missus maybe!
Actually watching highlights on TV here, well seen there is a foot of snow back here in AERLIK, not the most exciting pastime for Friday evening! Cricket is a not a bad game tho!
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Orangemac on December 17, 2010, 11:48:09 PM
England seemed to be in a great position after day 1. They must have really collapsed yesterday. You get the feelng if Australia win this one they will win the series.

Funny the way this is the 1 sport I would cheer for England in. Good to see the smile wiped off the Aussies faces.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: stephenite on December 18, 2010, 01:08:35 AM
Hard to believe that Australia are 200 runs ahead with 7 in hand going into day 3, disagree with the notion that the Aussies will win the series if they win at the WACA. I pray, however, that it's 2-1 to Australia heading to Sydney as I hope to be attending and would rather it's not a dead rubber. England need a draw to retain, so the Aussies have to win every test to take the Ashes back and I cannot see them doing that to be honest
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Denn Forever on December 18, 2010, 10:47:43 AM
One down.  I wouldn't put it past Australia.

It was refreshing to see Smith(?) going even before the Umpire gave him out.

Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Aerlik on December 18, 2010, 04:16:15 PM
didn't go today but seriously tempted to go tomorrow (day4).  what a performance by "us" today.  Happy with that.  Hussey, you beauty.

Where the fcuk is Clabby?
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: leaveherinsir on December 18, 2010, 05:46:38 PM
Quote from: Aerlik on December 18, 2010, 04:16:15 PM
didn't go today but seriously tempted to go tomorrow (day4).  what a performance by "us" today.  Happy with that.  Hussey, you beauty.

Where the fcuk is Clabby?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clabby
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: stephenite on December 29, 2010, 07:05:37 AM
So England retain the ashes, first time in 26 years that they've left Australian shores with the title.
Hoping Australia can at least draw the series in Sydney as I've tickets for next weeks test.
Will be interesting to watch the Australian media this week tearing themselves apart to get rid of Ponting, hope they don't
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Aerlik on December 29, 2010, 10:09:19 AM
 ;D

The silence is deafening.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: The Worker on December 29, 2010, 10:40:21 AM
If you bought a ticket for day 5 what happens?
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: stephenite on December 29, 2010, 11:09:13 AM
If there are less than 25 overs played you get a full refund, if they make 25th over-tough shit
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Doogie Browser on January 06, 2011, 10:23:15 AM
England hit their biggest ever score in Oz, looks like the three tests they will win will all be by at least an innings too.  Poor show from the Aussies.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Denn Forever on January 06, 2011, 10:27:30 AM
But now that Collingwood is retiring, will Eoin Morgan get his game in the test side?
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: stephenite on January 06, 2011, 11:08:26 AM
Good day out at the SCG today-poor showing by the Aussies alright, very poor but credit to the Poms, awesome cricket. 3 wickets to go for the series win, they could be done by lunchtime but free entry tomorrow for any of the Sydney based lads that are interested
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: seafoid on January 06, 2011, 11:09:03 AM

A good Morgan interview

http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/other/2011/0101/1224286613824.html
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Minder on January 06, 2011, 11:19:30 AM
Are England the best test team in cricket now?
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: tyroneboi on January 06, 2011, 11:29:10 AM
Quote from: Minder on January 06, 2011, 11:19:30 AM
Are England the best test team in cricket now?

3rd best behind South Africa and India after this series. This is the worst Australian side in god knows how many years they are shocking.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Minder on January 06, 2011, 11:30:28 AM
Quote from: tyroneboi on January 06, 2011, 11:29:10 AM
Quote from: Minder on January 06, 2011, 11:19:30 AM
Are England the best test team in cricket now?

3rd best behind South Africa and India after this series. This is the worst Australian side in god knows how many years they are shocking.

Did they not beat South Africa this time last year in South Africa? Maybe it was a draw.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2011, 11:37:33 AM
QuoteThis is the worst Australian side in god knows how many years they are shocking.

And anyone living in Oz or has lived there will tell you that is hurting them, hurting them badly...

Oh the schadenfreude  ;D
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: imtommygunn on January 06, 2011, 12:50:17 PM
If only it weren't the English they were getting beat by Dinny!
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: seafoid on January 06, 2011, 03:22:33 PM
Quote from: tyroneboi on January 06, 2011, 11:29:10 AM
Quote from: Minder on January 06, 2011, 11:19:30 AM
Are England the best test team in cricket now?

3rd best behind South Africa and India after this series. This is the worst Australian side in god knows how many years they are shocking.

Are India not very inconsistent? Sachin never performs in the limelight says an Indian colleague of mine.  And the bowlers are only middling. 
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Boycey on January 06, 2011, 03:29:49 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 06, 2011, 03:22:33 PM
Quote from: tyroneboi on January 06, 2011, 11:29:10 AM
Quote from: Minder on January 06, 2011, 11:19:30 AM
Are England the best test team in cricket now?

3rd best behind South Africa and India after this series. This is the worst Australian side in god knows how many years they are shocking.

Are India not very inconsistent? Sachin never performs in the limelight says an Indian colleague of mine.  And the bowlers are only middling.

Thats even more outlandish than some of the statements currently being made on the football threads.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2011, 03:36:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 06, 2011, 12:50:17 PM
If only it weren't the English they were getting beat by Dinny!

Na that hurts them even more, I admire the English, they were crap for years but recognised that and put the right structures in place to make them competitive again, it was no short term fix..
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Declan on January 06, 2011, 03:42:09 PM
QuoteSachin never performs in the limelight says an Indian colleague of mine

Obviously hasn't been watching the latest series then. Unbelievable career
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Minder on January 06, 2011, 03:46:20 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 06, 2011, 03:22:33 PM
Quote from: tyroneboi on January 06, 2011, 11:29:10 AM
Quote from: Minder on January 06, 2011, 11:19:30 AM
Are England the best test team in cricket now?

3rd best behind South Africa and India after this series. This is the worst Australian side in god knows how many years they are shocking.
Are India not very inconsistent? Sachin never performs in the limelight says an Indian colleague of mine.  And the bowlers are only middling.

Are you sure your colleague isn't from Pakistan?
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: seafoid on January 06, 2011, 04:50:38 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 06, 2011, 03:46:20 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 06, 2011, 03:22:33 PM
Quote from: tyroneboi on January 06, 2011, 11:29:10 AM
Quote from: Minder on January 06, 2011, 11:19:30 AM
Are England the best test team in cricket now?

3rd best behind South Africa and India after this series. This is the worst Australian side in god knows how many years they are shocking.
Are India not very inconsistent? Sachin never performs in the limelight says an Indian colleague of mine.  And the bowlers are only middling.

Are you sure your colleague isn't from Pakistan?
He is from Andhra Pradesh only. He talks like a Mayo football fan.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: muppet on January 06, 2011, 05:06:20 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 06, 2011, 04:50:38 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 06, 2011, 03:46:20 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 06, 2011, 03:22:33 PM
Quote from: tyroneboi on January 06, 2011, 11:29:10 AM
Quote from: Minder on January 06, 2011, 11:19:30 AM
Are England the best test team in cricket now?

3rd best behind South Africa and India after this series. This is the worst Australian side in god knows how many years they are shocking.
Are India not very inconsistent? Sachin never performs in the limelight says an Indian colleague of mine.  And the bowlers are only middling.

Are you sure your colleague isn't from Pakistan?
He is from Andhra Pradesh only. He talks like a Mayo football fan.

Our bowlers are worse than middling. Our spinners are above average though.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: AZOffaly on January 06, 2011, 05:59:27 PM
Tendulkar has 51 Test Centuries. That's not bad in the 'limelight'. Who's this indian mate of yours? :)
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: stephenite on January 07, 2011, 02:01:56 AM
The team ethic of the Poms was impressive all summer, Broad goes home, Finn gets injured and Tremlett and Bresnan really took their chances well.
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: seafoid on January 07, 2011, 10:29:58 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 06, 2011, 05:59:27 PM
Tendulkar has 51 Test Centuries. That's not bad in the 'limelight'. Who's this indian mate of yours? :)

How has Sachin been playing over the last 2 years? I know Dhoni has brought a bit of steel to be batting but I am told that the stars (and they are legends in India) blow hot and cold. Would Harbhajan Singh make it onto the England team?  How good are the other bowlers ?   This colleague  of mine was deadly serious. 
Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: AZOffaly on January 07, 2011, 11:15:31 AM
Tendulkar is nearly 38, but he has just scored 146 against South Africa in the last test. Anyway, this comes from espncricinfo, a profile of him. maybe the last paragraph explains your friend's view somewhat.

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Profile Sachin Tendulkar has been the most complete batsman of his time, the most prolific runmaker of all time, and arguably the biggest cricket icon the game has ever known. His batting is based on the purest principles: perfect balance, economy of movement, precision in stroke-making, and that intangible quality given only to geniuses: anticipation. If he doesn't have a signature stroke - the upright, back-foot punch comes close - it is because he is equally proficient at each of the full range of orthodox shots (and plenty of improvised ones as well) and can pull them out at will.

There are no apparent weaknesses in Tendulkar's game. He can score all around the wicket, off both front foot and back, can tune his technique to suit every condition, temper his game to suit every situation, and has made runs in all parts of the world in all conditions.

Some of his finest performances have come against Australia, the overwhelmingly dominant team of his era. His century as a 19-year-old on a lightning-fast pitch at the WACA is considered one of the best innings ever to have been played in Australia. A few years later he received the ultimate compliment from the ultimate batsman: Don Bradman confided to his wife that Tendulkar reminded him of himself.

Blessed with the keenest of cricket minds, and armed with a loathing for losing, Tendulkar set about doing what it took to become one of the best batsmen in the world. His greatness was established early: he was only 16 when he made his Test debut. He was hit on the mouth by Waqar Younis but continued to bat, in a blood-soaked shirt. His first Test hundred, a match-saving one at Old Trafford, came when he was 17, and he had 16 Test hundreds before he turned 25. In 2000 he became the first batsman to have scored 50 international hundreds, in 2008 he passed Brian Lara as the leading Test run-scorer, and in the years after, he went past 13,000 Test runs 30,000 international runs, and in 2010 became the first player to score 50 Test centuries.

He currently holds the record for most hundreds in both Tests and ODIs - remarkable, considering he didn't score his first ODI hundred till his 79th match. Incredibly, he retains a divine enthusiasm for the game, and he seems to be untouched by age: at 36 years and 306 days he broke a 40-year-old barrier by scoring the first double-century in one-day cricket. It now seems inevitable that he will become the first cricketer to score 100 international hundreds, which like Bradman's batting average, could be a mark that lasts for ever.

Tendulkar's considerable achievements seem greater still when looked at in the light of the burden of expectations he has had to bear from his adoring but somewhat unreasonable followers, who have been prone to regard anything less than a hundred in each innings as a failure. The aura may have dimmed, if only slightly, as the years on the international circuit have taken their toll on the body, but Tendulkar remains, by a distance, the most worshipped cricketer in the world. Sambit Bal

Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: seafoid on January 07, 2011, 11:21:45 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 07, 2011, 11:15:31 AM
Tendulkar is nearly 38, but he has just scored 146 against South Africa in the last test. Anyway, this comes from espncricinfo, a profile of him. maybe the last paragraph explains your friend's view somewhat.

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Profile Sachin Tendulkar has been the most complete batsman of his time, the most prolific runmaker of all time, and arguably the biggest cricket icon the game has ever known. His batting is based on the purest principles: perfect balance, economy of movement, precision in stroke-making, and that intangible quality given only to geniuses: anticipation. If he doesn't have a signature stroke - the upright, back-foot punch comes close - it is because he is equally proficient at each of the full range of orthodox shots (and plenty of improvised ones as well) and can pull them out at will.

There are no apparent weaknesses in Tendulkar's game. He can score all around the wicket, off both front foot and back, can tune his technique to suit every condition, temper his game to suit every situation, and has made runs in all parts of the world in all conditions.

Some of his finest performances have come against Australia, the overwhelmingly dominant team of his era. His century as a 19-year-old on a lightning-fast pitch at the WACA is considered one of the best innings ever to have been played in Australia. A few years later he received the ultimate compliment from the ultimate batsman: Don Bradman confided to his wife that Tendulkar reminded him of himself.

Blessed with the keenest of cricket minds, and armed with a loathing for losing, Tendulkar set about doing what it took to become one of the best batsmen in the world. His greatness was established early: he was only 16 when he made his Test debut. He was hit on the mouth by Waqar Younis but continued to bat, in a blood-soaked shirt. His first Test hundred, a match-saving one at Old Trafford, came when he was 17, and he had 16 Test hundreds before he turned 25. In 2000 he became the first batsman to have scored 50 international hundreds, in 2008 he passed Brian Lara as the leading Test run-scorer, and in the years after, he went past 13,000 Test runs 30,000 international runs, and in 2010 became the first player to score 50 Test centuries.

He currently holds the record for most hundreds in both Tests and ODIs - remarkable, considering he didn't score his first ODI hundred till his 79th match. Incredibly, he retains a divine enthusiasm for the game, and he seems to be untouched by age: at 36 years and 306 days he broke a 40-year-old barrier by scoring the first double-century in one-day cricket. It now seems inevitable that he will become the first cricketer to score 100 international hundreds, which like Bradman's batting average, could be a mark that lasts for ever.

Tendulkar's considerable achievements seem greater still when looked at in the light of the burden of expectations he has had to bear from his adoring but somewhat unreasonable followers, who have been prone to regard anything less than a hundred in each innings as a failure. The aura may have dimmed, if only slightly, as the years on the international circuit have taken their toll on the body, but Tendulkar remains, by a distance, the most worshipped cricketer in the world. Sambit Bal

Thanks for that, AZ. In India all the players are lionised by the press. I used to read the Hindustan Times and Rahul Dravid was portrayed as a god. Same for Harbhajan and Sachin Sehwag, Laxman and the rest.  I used to think as a team they could beat anyone just from what I had read. 

The country goes into a frenzy any time there is a tournament.  But deep down the confidence is very flaky. That is the impression I had.

Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: leaveherinsir on January 07, 2011, 04:01:02 PM
Quote from: stephenite on January 07, 2011, 02:01:56 AM
The team ethic of the Poms was impressive all summer, Broad goes home, Finn gets injured and Tremlett and Bresnan really took their chances well.
Some of the stats were very impressive from English perspective!
Cook had the most minutes in the middle in Ashes history, and the second highest English total against Australia
3 innings victories, first time that ever happened to Australia
Prior hit the fastest ever Ashes ton
Highest ever score with that 644 also

Probably a combination of good English play and poor Australian team, its a pity it wasnt more like the Ashes of 2005. Some of those games were unreal, 5 days going down to the last ball. Got me interested in cricket
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Title: Re: The Ashes
Post by: Boycey on January 07, 2011, 04:22:15 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on January 07, 2011, 04:01:02 PM
    Quote from: stephenite on January 07, 2011, 02:01:56 AM
    The team ethic of the Poms was impressive all summer, Broad goes home, Finn gets injured and Tremlett and Bresnan really took their chances well.
    Some of the stats were very impressive from English perspective!
    Cook had the most minutes in the middle in Ashes history, and the second highest English total against Australia
    3 innings victories, first time that ever happened to Australia
    Prior hit the fastest ever Ashes ton
    Highest ever score with that 644 also

    Probably a combination of good English play and poor Australian team, its a pity it wasnt more like the Ashes of 2005. Some of those games were unreal, 5 days going down to the last ball. Got me interested in cricket
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    Some of the stats coming out of the series are astonishing but its hard to get a grasp on how good England are as Australia were awful. A summer series against India will be a bigger test (hope to get a couple of days of the Lords test in all going well) pity its only a three test series.
    Title: Re: The Ashes
    Post by: Aerlik on January 07, 2011, 05:04:24 PM
    the great thing to come out of this is that the English are far enough away for me to not have to thole their bragging and the aussies did so shite that we will not be listening about how wonderful Aus cricket it.  Winner on both counts.
    Title: Re: The Ashes
    Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 08, 2011, 08:45:34 AM
    Quote from: Aerlik on January 07, 2011, 05:04:24 PM
    the great thing to come out of this is that the English are far enough away for me to not have to thole their bragging and the aussies did so shite that we will not be listening about how wonderful Aus cricket it.  Winner on both counts.
    I agree. Only one thing as bad as a whingeing pom is a gloating Aussie.
    Title: Re: The Ashes
    Post by: deiseach on January 08, 2011, 09:22:59 AM
    Quote from: leaveherinsir on January 07, 2011, 04:01:02 PM
    Probably a combination of good English play and poor Australian team, its a pity it wasnt more like the Ashes of 2005. Some of those games were unreal, 5 days going down to the last ball. Got me interested in cricket

    Ditto. Every ball was a fecking funeral. Still, you'd never be happy with hurling if you always wanted it to be as good as the 2009 All-Ireland final or the the 2004 Munster final
    Title: Re: The Ashes
    Post by: RealSpiritof98 on January 08, 2011, 11:42:01 AM
    Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on November 24, 2010, 10:51:02 PM
    i enjoy a bit of cricket, England 3-1

    Aussies were stuffed, Morgan to destroy them in the 1 dayers as well, sad he didn't get a run other than a sub fielder.

    I hate not backing my predictions.
    Title: Re: The Ashes
    Post by: seafoid on January 13, 2011, 02:02:14 PM
    It's great to see Eoin Morgan doing well
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/jan/13/eoin-morgan-england-twenty20


    Paul Collingwood hails 'special' Eoin Morgan after Twenty20 display• Irishman scored 43 runs in narrow victory over Australia
    • 'He showed his class again,' said England's T20 captain

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    Eoin Morgan strikes the ball during England's Twenty20 win over Australia in Adelaide yesterday. Photograph: Gareth Copley/PA

    Paul Collingwood, England's Twenty20 captain, has described Eoin Morgan as a "special talent" after he furthered his growing reputation in yesterday's one-wicket win over Australia in Adelaide.

    While debutant Chris Woakes stole the limelight after holding his nerve to hit the winning run from the final ball, it was Morgan's composed 43 from 33 balls that formed the foundation of the chase. The left-hander had spent the majority of England's tour in Australia cooling his heels on the sidelines – he had faced just 17 balls in two months – but there was little sign of rustiness in yesterday's opening T20 encounter between the two sides.

    "Morgs has been superb in Twenty20 and one-day cricket," Collingwood said. "We probably keep leaving it up to him a bit too much if we are honest, but he showed his class again.

    "He's been waiting in the wings and is very patient but when it comes to this form of the game he's a special talent."

    Title: Re: The Ashes
    Post by: Aerlik on January 13, 2011, 02:05:32 PM
    Where do the England cricket team players stay when they visit South Africa?





    With their parents.
    Title: Re: The Ashes
    Post by: Hound on January 13, 2011, 02:31:41 PM
    Quote from: leaveherinsir on January 07, 2011, 04:01:02 PM
    Some of the stats were very impressive from English perspective!
    Cook had the most minutes in the middle in Ashes history, and the second highest English total against Australia
    3 innings victories, first time that ever happened to Australia
    Prior hit the fastest ever Ashes ton
    Highest ever score with that 644 also

    Probably a combination of good English play and poor Australian team, its a pity it wasnt more like the Ashes of 2005. Some of those games were unreal, 5 days going down to the last ball. Got me interested in cricket

    Not fastest ever.
    Fastest since Botham.
    Title: Re: The Ashes
    Post by: Denn Forever on January 13, 2011, 03:40:56 PM
    If you are interested in watching the trip downunder, ITV4 have a highlights show at 22.00 on the days of the matches.

    Don't know how Australia lost after their lightening start and is Brett Lee retired from test cricket?  Test side could have done with his experience.