I got this from GAA Punters website, but I don't work for them :D I was wondering how come Galway were so quiet on this one, it seems incredible that an All Ireland Final could be fixed as a home venue for one team. Even Croke Park is technically neutral for the Dubs.
Any views from Galway? Nice wiggle again by Cooney by the way. Is this lad one of the slimiest GAA Presidents ever?
Galway may boycott U-21 final over venue
Written by: Oisin Kearns on 7th September 2010
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Galway clubs delegates will meet tonight to consider the option of boycotting next weekends All-Ireland U-21 Hurling final against Tipperary over the choice of Thurles as the venue.
It felt that asking Galway to play in Thurles the home venue of their opponents is a huge disadvantage
"To say that we were very disturbed and disappointed by it would be the understatement of the year," hurling board chairman Joe Byrne said last night.
It was thought by Byrne that GAA director Pariac Duffy & Christy Cooney made the decesion of the venue but GAA president Christy Cooney refuted suggestions.
"I don't know where he got that from. Paraic Duffy and I don't make the decision. The CCCC make the decision and we fully support the decision that they make," he said.
"If we're asked for an opinion, we give an opinion. But we don't dictate to CCCC in any circumstances where games should be played. That's their job. I'm very happy with Thurles as a venue."
"We've put a massive amount of money into Thurles, it's recognised as our second stadium and as a hurling stadium. We're likely to play our U-21 hurling finals in Thurles for the foreseeable future. Counties have to recognise that."
We will have more on this story this tonight.
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 07, 2010, 02:48:59 PMNice wiggle again by Cooney by the way. Is this lad one of the slimiest GAA Presidents ever?
He's a senior executive of FÁS, AZ - a bastion of rectitude, openness and straight talking. So you're way off the mark there.
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 07, 2010, 02:48:59 PM
I got this from GAA Punters website, but I don't work for them :D I was wondering how come Galway were so quiet on this one, it seems incredible that an All Ireland Final could be fixed as a home venue for one team. Even Croke Park is technically neutral for the Dubs.
Any views from Galway? Nice wiggle again by Cooney by the way. Is this lad one of the slimiest GAA Presidents ever?
Galway may boycott U-21 final over venue
Written by: Oisin Kearns on 7th September 2010
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Galway clubs delegates will meet tonight to consider the option of boycotting next weekends All-Ireland U-21 Hurling final against Tipperary over the choice of Thurles as the venue.
It felt that asking Galway to play in Thurles the home venue of their opponents is a huge disadvantage
"To say that we were very disturbed and disappointed by it would be the understatement of the year," hurling board chairman Joe Byrne said last night.
It was thought by Byrne that GAA director Pariac Duffy & Christy Cooney made the decesion of the venue but GAA president Christy Cooney refuted suggestions.
"I don't know where he got that from. Paraic Duffy and I don't make the decision. The CCCC make the decision and we fully support the decision that they make," he said.
"If we're asked for an opinion, we give an opinion. But we don't dictate to CCCC in any circumstances where games should be played. That's their job. I'm very happy with Thurles as a venue."
"We've put a massive amount of money into Thurles, it's recognised as our second stadium and as a hurling stadium. We're likely to play our U-21 hurling finals in Thurles for the foreseeable future. Counties have to recognise that."
We will have more on this story this tonight.
He says he's nothing to do with the decision yet comes out with a leading statement like that above.
The sooner that hoor crawls back below whatever stone he came from the better for the GAA, financially and otherwise.
Who's on this CCCCC then?
What's wrong with Nowlan Park?
What's wrong with Pairc na nGaeil in Limerick? It's Galway v Tipperary. Limerick is an obvious spot. Jaysus they played the League Final there a couple of years ago when it was the same counties.
GAA seem to be saying that they fixed the U-21 hurling final for the next 3 years for Thurles and are adamant that they are not budging. Seems completely daft to me. Nothing against Semple which is a great venue but national finals should not be held on the training ground of one of the finalists. Especially when there are a number of perfectly suitable venues nearby, Limerick, Tullamore, etc. The CCCC actually said that Thurles was the "fairest" venue for the final which is just mad stuff altogether. Ridiculous argument from Cooney to say that all finals will be played in Thurles just because they spent money on it. Big money has been spent on lots of grounds in recent years and some are completely under-utilised. At least Semple already gets more than it's fair share of games.
I hope there's no boycott though as the young lads deserve to play in a national final even if they will be huge underdogs playing in front of a massive home crowd in party mood.
it would be some win if they pulled it off. Remember Galway -Wexford in 1996 ? Super win for the men in maroon.
Pissed off with the venue choice, cant believe the cheeky fckers are saying its the same for Dublin, Dublin dont train all yr round in Croke park so its a non argument.
How much money was spent on Gaelic Grounds in Limerick ffs so to use that as an argument is a total farce.
The fairest grd argument is an insult. How do these people get away with such comments? If i was the journo i comeback with all of the above to cooney and see what he has to say. Why let him off the hook with his lies..
Personnally i wouldnt turn up. c***ts. Best of Luck Galway if they do.
The quantity of spin and bullsh1t that Cooney comes out with would put Alastair Campbell to shame.
He's more concerned about pandering to sponsors than he is promoting and improving our games. He's all over every media outlet when his silly fence and army of goons keep the pitch in perfect nick after the hurling on Sunday yet he buries his head in the sand when matches are ruined by scandalous officiating and county teams are denied fair play.
- We tear up the Croke Park pitch at the peak of the football and hurling season because Bono and the boys want to park their spaceship in Drumcondra.
- A few harmless bucks from Allenwood have a totally innocuous banner taken off them on Hill 16 because it contains a reference to his fence.
- Now we're told that a match being held in Thurles is of no advantage to Tipperary!
The idiots have taken over the asylum and he who pays the piper calls the shots. The sooner Cooney fecks off back to FÁS, the better.
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on September 07, 2010, 04:48:32 PM
The quantity of spin and bullsh1t that Cooney comes out with would put Alastair Campbell to shame.
He's more concerned about pandering to sponsors than he is promoting and improving our games. He's all over every media outlet when his silly fence and army of goons keep the pitch in perfect nick after the hurling on Sunday yet he buries his head in the sand when matches are ruined by scandalous officiating and county teams are denied fair play.
- We tear up the Croke Park pitch at the peak of the football and hurling season because Bono and the boys want to park their spaceship in Drumcondra.
- A few harmless bucks from Allenwood have a totally innocuous banner taken off them on Hill 16 because it contains a reference to his fence.
- Now we're told that a match being held in Thurles is of no advantage to Tipperary!
The idiots have taken over the asylum and he who pays the piper calls the shots. The sooner Cooney fecks off back to FÁS, the better.
f**k, Mordock and his right wing spin has nothing on the corridors of Croke park this weather. Question any of their decision making and you're anti-GAA. Cooney, Duffy and McKenna need taken out and beaten by a length of wavin piping.
I can't remember Liam Mulvihill being this bad, maybe he was better at disguising it.
Quote from: johnneycool on September 07, 2010, 04:53:07 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on September 07, 2010, 04:48:32 PM
The quantity of spin and bullsh1t that Cooney comes out with would put Alastair Campbell to shame.
He's more concerned about pandering to sponsors than he is promoting and improving our games. He's all over every media outlet when his silly fence and army of goons keep the pitch in perfect nick after the hurling on Sunday yet he buries his head in the sand when matches are ruined by scandalous officiating and county teams are denied fair play.
- We tear up the Croke Park pitch at the peak of the football and hurling season because Bono and the boys want to park their spaceship in Drumcondra.
- A few harmless bucks from Allenwood have a totally innocuous banner taken off them on Hill 16 because it contains a reference to his fence.
- Now we're told that a match being held in Thurles is of no advantage to Tipperary!
The idiots have taken over the asylum and he who pays the piper calls the shots. The sooner Cooney fecks off back to FÁS, the better.
f**k, Mordock and his right wing spin has nothing on the corridors of Croke park this weather. Question any of their decision making and you're anti-GAA. Cooney, Duffy and McKenna need taken out and beaten by a length of wavin piping.
I can't remember Liam Mulvihill being this bad, maybe he was better at disguising it.
I don't think Liam Mulvihill was in he papers as much during the whole duration of his reign than Duffy has been since 2008. Mulvihill went about his job diligently and seemed to be universally liked by all GAA folk. Duffy strikes me as the type of person that would turn up to the opening of an envelope.
Have to agree with most people here. Completely unfair on Galway, and the GAA top brass coming out very badly on this.
I hope there is no boycott for the teams sake; let them have a cut off Tipp on their own patch and if their good enough the result will look after itself. Big big ask though and will probably be beyond them but sure sport can throw up the odd surprise from time to time.
Its quite an unbelieveable decision by the CCCC. I mean, how in the lord name of jaysus do they think this is a correct decision for a national final? Who are the decision makers on the CCCC? I bet if it was Kilkenny providing the opposition the feckin thing wouldnt be in Thurles! As for Cooney, well he just continues to cover himself in glory and has brough absolutely nothing to the office of President, in fact, he is a thundering disgrace. >:(
Absolutely disgraceful decision. When I heard this last week I thought it was joke. Unbelievable!
Image them fixing the football final for Newry? Do you think Frank would let Cork travell?
The GAA has been ran by a fcukin Munster mafia since time immemorial.
Most GAA politicians need Tipp/Cork and Limerick to back them so they pander to everything or anything that would make them happy.
Absolutely disgraceful decision as so regularly happens when it comes to making fixtures and no thought whatsoever for Galway hurling supporters once again.
Galway Agree To Play In Thurles
Galway will not consider a boycott of Saturday's All-Ireland U-21 hurling final in Thurles and have agreed to play the game against Tipperary on their home turf.
A planned meeting of clubs in Galway to discuss options did not go ahead last night after the six- man hurling board executive took the decision to play the game.
The final was scheduled for Thurles some months ago, but the fact that Tipperary reached the decider muddied the situation somewhat.
Chairman Joe Byrne claimed the hurling board were being hounded by clubs and supporters not to go to Semple Stadium -- where the Tipperary homecoming was held on Monday night -- for the U-21 decider.
Galway had sought a neutral venue and even met GAA director general Paraic Duffy on Friday. They came away from this meeting confident that a change would be agreed.
But the CCCC stuck by the decision to play the game in Thurles and, according to Byrne, the Galway Hurling Board received a letter from the fixtures body stating that Thurles was chosen because it was deemed the "fairest" venue.
GAA president Christy Cooney said he had no influence over the decision, but pointed out that substantial money had been spent on upgrading Thurles as the country's second venue and that U-21 finals would be played there in the future.
But Byrne said: "We are very unhappy with the way all this has been handled and we want all of that examined, but, for now, it is a matter of concentrating on the game on Saturday. We are very angry about the whole matter."
I'm glad it's going ahead. It will be a massive test for this young Galway team which is no harm. This Tipp team looks the best U-21 team since Cork in '98 so I'd be happy enough with a good performance and avoiding a heavy defeat.
Can the Galway board please write back to the CCCC and ask them to list the reasons why they believe Thurles is the fairest venue.
I hope as Byrne says that they do insist on the decision being fully examined and dont alow it to be swept under the carpet.
It seems to me that Cooney & Duffy and probably McKenna are taking the GAA down a road that I have no taste for.
Personally I feel far less a part of the GAA than I did 10 or 15 years ago.
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on September 07, 2010, 08:43:14 PM
I bet if it was Kilkenny providing the opposition the feckin thing wouldnt be in Thurles!
It'd actually be in Kilkenny. Before th u21 final was moved to Croker, Kilkenny and Tipp had a home and away arrangement in place. The last final played between the 2 before the Croker spell was in Nowlan Park. The 2 sides drew in the final in 2006 and the replay was fixed for Thurles (it being Tipp's turn for home advantage as per the home/away arrangement).
If it were Kilkenny (moot point) I can't imagine they'd have made an issue out of the venue (though I'm sure they'd have been quietly displeased). It is a completely ridiculous decision though. Cooney has obviously made someone down there a promise that he hasn't the decency to renege on.
Edit: just thinking about it though - I wonder how their home/away arrangement would have fit in with Cooney's arrogant promises...
Quote from: bottlethrower7 on September 08, 2010, 01:34:41 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on September 07, 2010, 08:43:14 PM
I bet if it was Kilkenny providing the opposition the feckin thing wouldnt be in Thurles!
It'd actually be in Kilkenny. Before th u21 final was moved to Croker, Kilkenny and Tipp had a home and away arrangement in place. The last final played between the 2 before the Croker spell was in Nowlan Park. The 2 sides drew in the final in 2006 and the replay was fixed for Thurles (it being Tipp's turn for home advantage as per the home/away arrangement).
If it were Kilkenny (moot point) I can't imagine they'd have made an issue out of the venue (though I'm sure they'd have been quietly displeased). It is a completely ridiculous decision though. Cooney has obviously made someone down there a promise that he hasn't the decency to renege on.
Edit: just thinking about it though - I wonder how their home/away arrangement would have fit in with Cooney's arrogant promises...
All those arrangements are now dead in the water I'd have thought.
Quote from: fearglasmor on September 08, 2010, 12:12:39 PM
Can the Galway board please write back to the CCCC and ask them to list the reasons why they believe Thurles is the fairest venue.
I hope as Byrne says that they do insist on the decision being fully examined and dont alow it to be swept under the carpet.
It seems to me that Cooney & Duffy and probably McKenna are taking the GAA down a road that I have no taste for.
Personally I feel far less a part of the GAA than I did 10 or 15 years ago.
that sums up how I feel but I wouldn't limit the blame to those 3. They have agents at work in (almost) every county.
The sooner Corporate Cooney fucks off back to FAS the better , but I have a feeling it will be a similar character filling his shoes.
Quote from: Asal Mor on September 08, 2010, 09:49:34 AM
I'm glad it's going ahead. It will be a massive test for this young Galway team which is no harm. This Tipp team looks the best U-21 team since Cork in '98 so I'd be happy enough with a good performance and avoiding a heavy defeat.
They're an excellent team, some of the best matches I've seen in recent years have been U21 games between Cork and Tipp, always very close, always very open and usually a draw. :)
But seriously though, it's out of line, it's just typical Cooney, and if it was a team like Kilkenny there's no way they'd be ask to play in Thurles, I'm glad they've agreed to it, but it's a disgraceful decision. And Galway should at least ask why the hell they've done Tipp a favour. It's Thurles, it's not like it needs the fixture to bring in money, had they had someone like Frank Murphy, who has his (rare) moments and uses, he would have found a way around it.
Not Cooney's greatest moment. FFS, and fairy unfair on everyone involved with the Galway side.
Hope Galway win it now. Wouldn't it be gas!
Quote from: Farrandeelin on September 08, 2010, 07:52:16 PM
Hope Galway win it now. Wouldn't it be gas!
It would be great for Galway but it would be used by Cooney to "prove" the he, I mean, the cccc were correct in the decision they made.
i see galway have only sold 240 tickets for them game,fair play to everyone who didnt buy a ticket.a disgraceful decision and the sooner cooney is gone the better.
2 minutes gone
2 goals for Tipp
2 wides for Galway
Tipp 3-11 to 0-09 up after 10 mins of the second half! Tipp a beter team nothwithstanding the home field advantage! Galway with some shocking wides!
25 point win :o
Some week for Tipp..
That's some final win/beating still can't understand why this was played in Thurles not that it matters now
Quote from: ross4life on September 11, 2010, 08:24:38 PM
That's some final win/beating still can't understand why this was played in Thurles not that it matters now
What's difficult to understand about it? The GAA made its reasons very clear.
Moot point considering the gulf in class between the sides. Seven of the team are U21 again next year.
It hammers home the point, that it was completely unfair on Galway to play against a better ( accepted by most people) team at their home ground! It was not Tipp's fault but that utter **** Cooney and Duffy. I tell you this much, I have never heard of a GAA president being so unpopular as this one. The amount of people down here in Cork that have no time for him is huge! You would have to feel sorry for the GAA folk in Limeridck who I am sure would have thought that this match would have been there. Now there's a county that needs all the GAA exposure it can get!
Quote from: gallsman on September 11, 2010, 08:33:14 PM
Quote from: ross4life on September 11, 2010, 08:24:38 PM
That's some final win/beating still can't understand why this was played in Thurles not that it matters now
What's difficult to understand about it? The GAA made its reasons very clear.
Moot point considering the gulf in class between the sides. Seven of the team are U21 again next year.
Of course there was a gulf in class as there would have been anywhere!! Don't you see. The gaa never explained properly why the game was played in Thurles. The CCC were instructed not to change the venue and please don't give me this money spent on stadium bullshit either. What about the money spent on Gaelic grounds??
I'm just pointing out that the GAA pointed out that the decision was taken months ago to hold the final in Thurles for the next three years. I didn't say I agreed with it.
I see the safety issue of the fans at Semple doesn,t seem to be as important as those at Corporate HQ last week :o
Crowd given as 21,000 on TG4. They were said to be expecting 30,000.
The Galway boycott was the reason it didnt happen.
Now if the game had been i bPáirc na nGael tomorrow at 3 or 3.30 there would have been at least 30,000 if not 35,000 at it.
So well done GAA officialdom on losing €150-180 k due to ye're dirty little arrangement with Thurles.
Surely to God the arrangement could have been Thurles for 3 years but not any year Tipp are in the final.
Well done to Tipp but I feel for Galway. The Gaa could easily have moved the game whatever the arrangement. They seemed to say to Galway - 'tough now beat it' which is typical of the current leadership.
Quote from: cicfada on September 11, 2010, 07:59:19 PM
Tipp 3-11 to 0-09 up after 10 mins of the second half! Tipp a beter team nothwithstanding the home field advantage! Galway with some shocking wides!
Indeed, those shocking wides in the first half would have kept them in the game longer if they'd been converted but the better team were by far Tipp and you could see the difference in speed their senior hurlers worked at.
All the same I was impressed by the Galway centre back (Burke??) who battled away gamely trying to turn a tide as well as the No8 and the sub 22 who is a very direct runner when he's on the ball. The Galway fullback was all at sea early on with O'Meara and should have been moved out of there, but maybe there was no one else to replace him.
Young Cooney has his Da's duck arse. If he's his hurling as well he'll be some spud.
A bit too much whinging from Galway about this one. As Bottle Thrower said, if Kilkenny were in the same situation you wouldn't hear them complaining, at least not as much and as publicly. It sounded to me last week like we were getting our excuses in before the game even started. Everyone knew it was an unfair choice of venue but it would have been better to get on with it. Complain by all means, but don't go crying in the media. Tipp are exceptional and their future is far too bright for my liking. Imagine having to listen to them if they embarked on a period of Kilkenny - like dominance. Too much for me to stomach.
Quote from: Asal Mor on September 14, 2010, 06:10:30 AM
Imagine having to listen to them if they embarked on a period of Kilkenny - like dominance. Too much for me to stomach.
+1
Quote from: lilpaulie85 on September 14, 2010, 10:59:55 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on September 14, 2010, 06:10:30 AM
Imagine having to listen to them if they embarked on a period of Kilkenny - like dominance. Too much for me to stomach.
+1
Oi! Tipp! No! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks7AwE3Xpfk)
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks7AwE3Xpfk%7DOi!%20Tipp!%20No!%5B/url)
Tipp won't embark on a period of dominance anyway. They aren't that far ahead of Kilkenny and Galway. Even with a good u-21 team there is no guarantee that you get many senior hurlers out of it. There is also drink and women to consider.
I would be surprised if Tipp put 2 titles back to back.
I honestly believe KK will do them next year.(5-10 points)
Tipp had a perfect day all ireland final day. KK had as bad a day as they could have.
Tipp will be as good as them in a few years I believe but I don't think they are there yet.
C'ship is all about on the day. I believe 9 out of 10 times KK would have beaten them. Kk were still with them after 60 odd minutes having played as poor as they could play really.
I know what you're saying Tommy, but we can't cast aside the AIF last year. If Eoin Kelly had scored one of his chances then, it's very likely the 5 in row bid would have been a 2 in arow for Tipp.
Tipp are not a machine like KK, but their mentality refuses to countenance fear of Kilkenny. I think when Tipp have anywhere near the team of Kilkenny, they have a great record against them, and I expect that to continue over the next couple of years.
I'm not sure about the hunger of this team though, that'll have to be proven. I think if Tipp get through to an All Ireland against Kilkenny, they'll be confident and ready. They may get caught out along the way by Galway or someone like that.
50% of this game is 90% mental :D
Well Tipp are not a crowd who strike me as ever having fear of anyone.
Talk of them dominating the game is , I think though, a litle premature.
I think we're in for a hell of a game between them and KK next year and over the next few years. You learn more in defeat than victory and all that.
I can see what you say about them being complacent though. I thought they looked a good bit better than Galway for quite a few periods of their game yet they drifted in and out of it. Maybe they could be caught on the hop.
I just can't see Noel Hickey, Eddie Brennan, Tommy Walsh etc being so quiet ever again over 70 minutes. (Or whoever their replacements are...)
I would also say Tipp would have some unfinished business with Cork. They took a hell of a beating this year and too much of a rivalry for that to be forgot about.
Quote from: cicfada on September 11, 2010, 08:33:53 PM
I tell you this much, I have never heard of a GAA president being so unpopular as this one.
Sean Kelly
Quote from: bottlethrower7 on September 15, 2010, 09:15:29 AM
Quote from: cicfada on September 11, 2010, 08:33:53 PM
I tell you this much, I have never heard of a GAA president being so unpopular as this one.
Sean Kelly
Sean Kelly at least had a lot of people who supported his position on things. Cooney seems almost universally unpopular.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 15, 2010, 01:20:09 PM
Quote from: bottlethrower7 on September 15, 2010, 09:15:29 AM
Quote from: cicfada on September 11, 2010, 08:33:53 PM
I tell you this much, I have never heard of a GAA president being so unpopular as this one.
Sean Kelly
Sean Kelly at least had a lot of people who supported his position on things. Cooney seems almost universally unpopular.
have to agree kelly split opinion but cooney seems to have little if no support