Sorry, I'm really tired of this fawning to the status quo. I was over in London there last week and despite the fact I have some very good, decent friends there, in Britain, I am still Irish, I am different, in accent, attitude and outlook on life. I am proud to be Irish, to be separate from England etc, not because I am a bigot, or sectarian in anyway, but because I live on a small island and know I am different, and I also believe that Ireland should, and will, be united some day, one day, and not because of Sinn Féin, or some pseudo-republican dream, but because it deserves, as do we do, to be united, as Irishmen and women, in one island, perhaps against the world, but as a free-standing island in the world.
Quote from: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on June 07, 2010, 09:49:35 PM
Sorry, I'm really tired of this fawning to the status quo. I was over in London there last week and despite the fact I have some very good, decent friends there, in Britain, I am still Irish, I am different, in accent, attitude and outlook on life. I am proud to be Irish, to be separate from England etc, not because I am a bigot, or sectarian in anyway, but because I live on a small island and know I am different, and I also believe that Ireland should, and will, be united some day, one day, and not because of Sinn Féin, or some pseudo-republican dream, but because it deserves, as do we do, to be united, as Irishmen and women, in one island, perhaps against the world, but as a free-standing island in the world.
Would you like a medal?
GAA BOARD MEMBER IN "I'M NOT APOLOGETIC ABOUT BEING IRISH" SHOCKER!
I was thinking of starting this thread myself because it really is a bit sad to see the lack of respect and loyalty so many posters here have to their country. I was just looking through the GAA and General Discussion sections today and among the things being ridiculed by posters were the GAA itself, Irish language, Irish dance, Amhrán na bhFiann, Irish culture as an entity, references to the "mainland" UK and repeated partitionist statements typified by that complete b*****ks Mike Sheehy.
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 07, 2010, 10:15:20 PM
GAA BOARD MEMBER IN "I'M NOT APOLOGETIC ABOUT BEING IRISH" SHOCKER!
I was thinking of starting this thread myself because it really is a bit sad to see the lack of respect and loyalty so many posters here have to their country. I was just looking through the GAA and General Discussion sections today and among the things being ridiculed by posters were the GAA itself, Irish language, Irish dance, Amhrán na bhFiann, Irish culture as an entity, references to the "mainland" UK and repeated partitionist statements typified by that complete b*****ks Mike Sheehy.
you do realise this board has unionist members and wind up merchants?
Having lived away for nearly ten years in England, France and the States, and visited 20 odd countries around the world, I reckon there are two types of people - those who are Irish and those who want to be. Stand up and be proud!
I do indeed however I don't think that each of the statements was made by unionists and even if they were, there is no rush by anyone to engage in debate with them to speak positively about these issues. More people seem interested in throwing personal abuse or in joining the culture bashing bandwagon
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 07, 2010, 10:20:33 PM
I do indeed however I don't think that each of the statements was made by unionists and even if they were, there is no rush by anyone to engage in debate with them to speak positively about these issues. More people seem interested in throwing personal abuse or in joining the culture bashing bandwagon
welcome to the gaaboard.
Quote from: Cannonball on June 07, 2010, 10:17:51 PM
Having lived away for nearly ten years in England, France and the States, and visited 20 odd countries around the world, I reckon there are two types of people - those who are Irish and those who want to be. Stand up and be proud!
This man wore that t-shirt if I recall:
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If that was meant for me Pints, Cheers.
Quote from: Cannonball on June 07, 2010, 10:25:16 PM
If that was meant for me Pints, Cheers.
Well it wasn't but sure I'll say it to you too, welcome to the gaaboard - even if you are from tyrone
Quote from: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on June 07, 2010, 09:49:35 PM
Sorry, I'm really tired of this fawning to the status quo. I was over in London there last week and despite the fact I have some very good, decent friends there, in Britain, I am still Irish, I am different, in accent, attitude and outlook on life. I am proud to be Irish, to be separate from England etc, not because I am a bigot, or sectarian in anyway, but because I live on a small island and know I am different, and I also believe that Ireland should, and will, be united some day, one day, and not because of Sinn Féin, or some pseudo-republican dream, but because it deserves, as do we do, to be united, as Irishmen and women, in one island, perhaps against the world, but as a free-standing island in the world.
Good for you man. Thats the same reason I started the "we're not as british as Finchley thread"
Would I be correct in saying that the vast majority of the above posters were born and reared in the UK?
Quote from: Down South on June 07, 2010, 10:42:39 PM
Would I be correct in saying that the vast majority of the above posters were born and reared in the UK?
Me and Denis Bergkamp weren't.
Quote from: muppet on June 07, 2010, 10:44:09 PM
Quote from: Down South on June 07, 2010, 10:42:39 PM
Would I be correct in saying that the vast majority of the above posters were born and reared in the UK?
Me and Denis Bergkamp weren't.
neither was I
Quote from: Down South on June 07, 2010, 10:47:07 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 07, 2010, 10:44:49 PM
neither was I
Is Blobby not Britsh?
Mr Blobby was a british creation as far as I know. Considering you're such a big fan (bit weird if you ask me) I would have thought you'd know.
Aw thanks Pints. A flavour of what's in store then?
Quote from: Cannonball on June 07, 2010, 10:17:51 PM
Having lived away for nearly ten years in England, France and the States, and visited 20 odd countries around the world, I reckon there are two types of people - those who are Irish and those who want to be. Stand up and be proud!
No, there are three types of people. Those who can count and those who can't count.
This thread stinks of insecurity.
Quote from: Zapatista on June 08, 2010, 12:07:46 AM
Quote from: Cannonball on June 07, 2010, 10:17:51 PM
Having lived away for nearly ten years in England, France and the States, and visited 20 odd countries around the world, I reckon there are two types of people - those who are Irish and those who want to be. Stand up and be proud!
No, there are three types of people. Those who can count and those who can't count.
This thread stinks of insecurity.
Well said Zap...
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 07, 2010, 10:15:20 PM
GAA BOARD MEMBER IN "I'M NOT APOLOGETIC ABOUT BEING IRISH" SHOCKER!
I was thinking of starting this thread myself because it really is a bit sad to see the lack of respect and loyalty so many posters here have to their country. I was just looking through the GAA and General Discussion sections today and among the things being ridiculed by posters were the GAA itself, Irish language, Irish dance, Amhrán na bhFiann, Irish culture as an entity, references to the "mainland" UK and repeated partitionist statements typified by that complete b*****ks Mike Sheehy.
I dont consider you as Irish..therfore partition is the most logical way to preserve the Irishness of my country. Uniting with you would simply dilute that Irishness.
oh, and you are a stupid c**t as well. Thats another reason I dont want you in my country.
Quote from: Zapatista on June 08, 2010, 12:07:46 AM
This thread stinks of insecurity
Couldn't agree more. It's like the loyalists and their need to fly flags and paint kerbstones.
Quote from: Maguire01 on June 08, 2010, 08:02:15 AM
Quote from: Zapatista on June 08, 2010, 12:07:46 AM
This thread stinks of insecurity
Couldn't agree more. It's like the loyalists and their need to fly flags and paint kerbstones.
Can't see the problem with this thread or the reasons for starting it, FAM is proud to be Irish, whats wrong with that? I certainly don't read into it that he's insecure!!
Seems to me that there's some on this board who are almost ashamed to be Irish.
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 08, 2010, 02:25:17 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on June 08, 2010, 08:02:15 AM
Quote from: Zapatista on June 08, 2010, 12:07:46 AM
This thread stinks of insecurity
Couldn't agree more. It's like the loyalists and their need to fly flags and paint kerbstones.
Can't see the problem with this thread or the reasons for starting it, FAM is proud to be Irish, whats wrong with that? I certainly don't read into it that he's insecure!!
Seems to me that there's some on this board who are almost ashamed to be Irish.
I'd be ashamed to be considered what some people on the board identify as "Irish".
I am ashamed at the shame people feel about other people's shame.
Shame really.
Quote from: gallsman on June 08, 2010, 02:32:52 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 08, 2010, 02:25:17 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on June 08, 2010, 08:02:15 AM
Quote from: Zapatista on June 08, 2010, 12:07:46 AM
This thread stinks of insecurity
Couldn't agree more. It's like the loyalists and their need to fly flags and paint kerbstones.
Can't see the problem with this thread or the reasons for starting it, FAM is proud to be Irish, whats wrong with that? I certainly don't read into it that he's insecure!!
Seems to me that there's some on this board who are almost ashamed to be Irish.
I'd be ashamed to be considered what some people on the board identify as "Irish".
Care to elaborate.
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 08, 2010, 03:08:29 PM
Care to elaborate.
Bigotry. Sectarianism. Small-mindedness. Xenophobia. Homophobia.
I wouldn't like to be considered with that sort of thing.
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 08, 2010, 02:25:17 PM
Can't see the problem with this thread or the reasons for starting it, FAM is proud to be Irish, whats wrong with that? I certainly don't read into it that he's insecure!!
Seems to me that there's some on this board who are almost ashamed to be Irish.
The opening post and the first few replies give a sense that there was a need for this thread.
I'm not ashamed to be Irsh. A man proud of being Irish would be insulted by that >:(. Luckily I'm not proud of being Irish either ;). I just don't feel the need. Perhaps I'm a dirty Post Nationalist :-[
Quote from: gallsman on June 08, 2010, 03:11:41 PM
Bigotry. Sectarianism. Small-mindedness. Xenophobia. Homophobia.
I wouldn't like to be considered with that sort of thing.
There are Irish people who fall into all these categories.
Quote from: gallsman on June 08, 2010, 03:11:41 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 08, 2010, 03:08:29 PM
Care to elaborate.
Bigotry. Sectarianism. Small-mindedness. Xenophobia. Homophobia.
I wouldn't like to be considered with that sort of thing.
your more into joyriding and sniffing glue.
Quote from: charlieTully on June 08, 2010, 03:35:35 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 08, 2010, 03:11:41 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 08, 2010, 03:08:29 PM
Care to elaborate.
Bigotry. Sectarianism. Small-mindedness. Xenophobia. Homophobia.
I wouldn't like to be considered with that sort of thing.
your more into joyriding and sniffing glue.
Aye, that's it.
Quote from: gallsman on June 08, 2010, 03:11:41 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 08, 2010, 03:08:29 PM
Care to elaborate.
Bigotry. Sectarianism. Small-mindedness. Xenophobia. Homophobia.
I wouldn't like to be considered with that sort of thing.
Gallsman those words could be used to describe any race/nation. They describe some of the worst traits in mankind and I also wouldn't like to be associated with any of them.
But and I would guess that the majority of posters on this board when they are in the "real world" would be different from their internet personas. Certainly there are some gobshites on this board, but within every large population you will get some people with the attitudes listed above, what we cannot do is let a few bad apples taint the entire barrel.
Quote from: charlieTully on June 08, 2010, 03:35:35 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 08, 2010, 03:11:41 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 08, 2010, 03:08:29 PM
Care to elaborate.
Bigotry. Sectarianism. Small-mindedness. Xenophobia. Homophobia.
I wouldn't like to be considered with that sort of thing.
your more into joyriding and sniffing glue.
"your" what?
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 08, 2010, 05:00:28 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 08, 2010, 03:11:41 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 08, 2010, 03:08:29 PM
Care to elaborate.
Bigotry. Sectarianism. Small-mindedness. Xenophobia. Homophobia.
I wouldn't like to be considered with that sort of thing.
Gallsman those words could be used to describe any race/nation. They describe some of the worst traits in mankind and I also wouldn't like to be associated with any of them.
But and I would guess that the majority of posters on this board when they are in the "real world" would be different from their internet personas. Certainly there are some gobshites on this board, but within every large population you will get some people with the attitudes listed above, what we cannot do is let a few bad apples taint the entire barrel.
That's why restricted my comment my initial comment to the "Irishness" that some people on this board display through those traits.
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on June 08, 2010, 01:47:31 AM
Quote from: Nally Stand on June 07, 2010, 10:15:20 PM
GAA BOARD MEMBER IN "I'M NOT APOLOGETIC ABOUT BEING IRISH" SHOCKER!
I was thinking of starting this thread myself because it really is a bit sad to see the lack of respect and loyalty so many posters here have to their country. I was just looking through the GAA and General Discussion sections today and among the things being ridiculed by posters were the GAA itself, Irish language, Irish dance, Amhrán na bhFiann, Irish culture as an entity, references to the "mainland" UK and repeated partitionist statements typified by that complete b*****ks Mike Sheehy.
I dont consider you as Irish..therfore partition is the most logical way to preserve the Irishness of my country. Uniting with you would simply dilute that Irishness.
oh, and you are a stupid c**t as well. Thats another reason I dont want you in my country.
Gud man
Conor Cruise Mike.
Weak response Nally Stand....but, sure, I knew you hadn't the stomach for it.
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on June 08, 2010, 01:47:31 AM
I dont consider you as Irish..therfore partition is the most logical way to preserve the Irishness of my country. Uniting with you would simply dilute that Irishness.
oh, and you are a stupid c**t as well. Thats another reason I dont want you in my country.
Just like we believe football was invented in 2003 you believe Ireland was invented in 1921. Both are correct of course ;)
Quote from: Zapatista on June 08, 2010, 11:23:16 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on June 08, 2010, 01:47:31 AM
I dont consider you as Irish..therfore partition is the most logical way to preserve the Irishness of my country. Uniting with you would simply dilute that Irishness.
oh, and you are a stupid c**t as well. Thats another reason I dont want you in my country.
Just like we believe football was invented in 2003 you believe Ireland was invented in 1921. Both are correct of course ;)
On the contrary, I dont believe Ireland was "invented". I believe she is eternal and someday Ireland will unite with the remaining 6 counties of its ancient province of Ulster but first we must root out the collaborators that allowed the plantations to suceed...we must weed out those , like Nally Stand and his ancestors, that took the English corn while their countrymen starved during the famine. This goes way back before 1921. you lecture us on nationalism ??...we drove the planters from our lands while your Earls ran away to Europe. You are not pure enough to rejoin this land as you have been tainted. The Sassenach blood runs thick in your treacherous veins.
QuoteThe Sassenach blood runs thick in your treacherous veins.
No worse than being a yank.
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on June 09, 2010, 12:40:15 AM
Quote from: Zapatista on June 08, 2010, 11:23:16 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on June 08, 2010, 01:47:31 AM
I dont consider you as Irish..therfore partition is the most logical way to preserve the Irishness of my country. Uniting with you would simply dilute that Irishness.
oh, and you are a stupid c**t as well. Thats another reason I dont want you in my country.
Just like we believe football was invented in 2003 you believe Ireland was invented in 1921. Both are correct of course ;)
On the contrary, I dont believe Ireland was "invented". I believe she is eternal and someday Ireland will unite with the remaining 6 counties of its ancient province of Ulster but first we must root out the collaborators that allowed the plantations to suceed...we must weed out those , like Nally Stand and his ancestors, that took the English corn while their countrymen starved during the famine. This goes way back before 1921. you lecture us on nationalism ??...we drove the planters from our lands while your Earls ran away to Europe. You are not pure enough to rejoin this land as you have been tainted. The Sassenach blood runs thick in your treacherous veins.
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Quote from: Mike Sheehy on June 09, 2010, 12:40:15 AM
..we drove the planters from our lands while your Earls ran away to Europe. You are not pure enough to rejoin this land as you have been tainted. The Sassenach blood runs thick in your treacherous veins.
Oh dear, what a weak and pathetic grasp of Irish history: those earls (O'Neill and O'Donnell), unlike the earls of Munster (such as the Geraldines, who themselves were descendants of Norman Planters), actually routed the Planters from Munster, the Planters who had been long established in Munster before the first footfall of a Planter in Ulster. And they had to traipse the whole length of Ireland on the Munster folks' behalf, not once but twice!
It's (unsurprisingly) not surprising to learn that you know as much about Irish history as you do about football - sweet feck all.
:P :D
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on June 09, 2010, 12:40:15 AM
Quote from: Zapatista on June 08, 2010, 11:23:16 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on June 08, 2010, 01:47:31 AM
I dont consider you as Irish..therfore partition is the most logical way to preserve the Irishness of my country. Uniting with you would simply dilute that Irishness.
oh, and you are a stupid c**t as well. Thats another reason I dont want you in my country.
Just like we believe football was invented in 2003 you believe Ireland was invented in 1921. Both are correct of course ;)
On the contrary, I dont believe Ireland was "invented". I believe she is eternal and someday Ireland will unite with the remaining 6 counties of its ancient province of Ulster but first we must root out the collaborators that allowed the plantations to suceed...we must weed out those , like Nally Stand and his ancestors, that took the English corn while their countrymen starved during the famine. This goes way back before 1921. you lecture us on nationalism ??...we drove the planters from our lands while your Earls ran away to Europe. You are not pure enough to rejoin this land as you have been tainted. The Sassenach blood runs thick in your treacherous veins.
Good man Mike, I see they have invented a time machine down in Kerry or are you going to dig up these traitors and give them a good hiding. ::) You really should pay a visit to a library sometime.
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on June 09, 2010, 12:40:15 AM
On the contrary, I dont believe Ireland was "invented". I believe she is eternal and someday Ireland will unite with the remaining 6 counties of its ancient province of Ulster but first we must root out the collaborators that allowed the plantations to suceed...we must weed out those , like Nally Stand and his ancestors, that took the English corn while their countrymen starved during the famine. This goes way back before 1921. you lecture us on nationalism ??...we drove the planters from our lands while your Earls ran away to Europe. You are not pure enough to rejoin this land as you have been tainted. The Sassenach blood runs thick in your treacherous veins.
That's like saying anyone with a 'Mc' in their name is Scotch-Irish so needs to be sent back to the Highlands..... I'd better pack my bags. Somehow, I'm sure the Earls took a trip out in 1607 or faced being slaughtered, or, worse still, forced to lie down as slaves. I think they probably took the best, short-term option, as they thought, in the hope they'd come back some day in greater numbers.
PS Gallsman, is my medal in the post?!!!
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 08, 2010, 02:25:17 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on June 08, 2010, 08:02:15 AM
Quote from: Zapatista on June 08, 2010, 12:07:46 AM
This thread stinks of insecurity
Couldn't agree more. It's like the loyalists and their need to fly flags and paint kerbstones.
Can't see the problem with this thread or the reasons for starting it, FAM is proud to be Irish, whats wrong with that? I certainly don't read into it that he's insecure!!
Seems to me that there's some on this board who are almost ashamed to be Irish.
There's no reason to feel pride or shame because of your nationality. It's simply an accident of birth. I feel lucky to have been born in Ireland, given some of the war torn, poverty stricken places on earth one could have been born in. That said, I probabaly would've felt just as fortunate if I'd be born in some other western democracy.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on June 09, 2010, 09:40:26 PM
... I probabaly would've felt just as fortunate if I'd be born in some other western democracy.
Not half as fortunate as the rest of us would have felt :P