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Title: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on April 10, 2010, 12:46:50 AM
Just to keep all the predictions in one place, tried trawling through the Horse Racing thread looking for tips on the big race, can't work out which races they are talking about.
This thread can be deleted after the race if anyone wants.

Anyway to start of, only caught the tail end of John McCricrick on 5live but he says a good each way bet is - Hello Bud at 50/1.
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: The Worker on April 10, 2010, 09:13:19 AM
Comply or Die, has proved in the past he can last the distance and is a former winner!

get on each way
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 10, 2010, 09:15:18 AM
Pretty open race this year you could make a good case for about ten horses.  I've restricted myself to 3 this year

The Package
Character Building
Cerium (as an outsider)
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on April 10, 2010, 09:37:21 AM
McCririck also said last night "only back each way if the horse is 33/1 or better"

Sean Grahams not putting prices up until 10am on website.
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: T Fearon on April 10, 2010, 09:47:46 AM
Invested 100 pennies straight, on Backstage, forecasted to start at 25/1
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: boojangles on April 10, 2010, 10:02:37 AM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on April 10, 2010, 09:37:21 AM
McCririck also said last night "only back each way if the horse is 33/1 or better"
Sean Grahams not putting prices up until 10am on website.

Mc Cririck is a tool.He must be getting good money from his sponsors to say that.

State of Play
Character Building
Conna Castle
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2010, 10:37:30 AM
I've stuck a fiver on state of play and arbor supreme so everyone else may want to avoid them, they won't be winning.
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on April 10, 2010, 11:33:24 AM
Eric's Charm and Backstage(although having to carry both TF and my hopes should prove too much)
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on April 10, 2010, 11:35:54 AM
Sean Graham prices.

16:15 - 4m 4f Handicap Chase ,
Place Rules: 1/4 odds for first 5 places. 

     Selection  Early Price 
1. Madison Du Berl' 50-1 
2. Mon Mome 12-1 
3. Vic Venturi 20-1 
4. Black Apalachi 14-1 
5. Joe Lively 66-1 
6. Don't Push It 20-1 
7. Comply Or Die 16-1 
8. Tricky Trickster 16-1 
9. Niche Market 16-1 
10. Made In Taipan 100-1 
11. Dream Alliance 33-1 
12. Cloudy Lane 33-1 
13. Nozic 66-1 
14. My Will 33-1 
15. Pablo Du Charmil 100-1 
16. Ballyholland 25-1 
17. Backstage 20-1 
18. Beat The Boys 100-1 
19. Preists Leap 100-1 
20. Snowy Morning 14-1 
21. Can't Buy Time 33-1 
22. Big Fella Thanks 9-1 
23. State Of Play 16-1 
24. Character Build' 16-1 
25. Ellerslie George 66-1 
26. Eric's Charm 40-1 
27. King Johns Cast' 25-1 
28. Conna Castle 100-1 
29. Ballyfitz 50-1 
30. Ollie Magern 100-1 
31. Arbor Supreme 14-1 
32. Maljimar 25-1 
33. The Package 12-1 
34. Piraya 125-1 
35. Irish Raptor 33-1 
36. Cerium 50-1 
37. Palypso De Creek 66-1 
38. Hello Bud 33-1 
39. Flintoff 50-1 
40. Royal Rosa 66-1 


Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: Whitehair on April 10, 2010, 11:40:52 AM
Stuck a few quid each way on Ballyholland 33/1 and Irish Raptor 40/1.
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2010, 12:04:07 PM
My wee girls picked out Hello bud (John McCricrick tosser) Mon Mome and wife went for Comply or Die (i'm still alive!!)

i've went for Niche Market on the nose and each way bet on My Will

so stay away from those ;)
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other r
Post by: Minder on April 10, 2010, 12:06:10 PM
Always thought Milltown Row would have made a good jockey.
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other r
Post by: rrhf on April 10, 2010, 12:37:42 PM
Arrdy
Hardy where's this years forecast I've won over 500 on the last 3 years tips from yerself... Let us have it 
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: ONeill on April 10, 2010, 12:43:24 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on April 10, 2010, 12:46:50 AM
Just to keep all the predictions in one place, tried trawling through the Horse Racing thread looking for tips on the big race, can't work out which races they are talking about.
This thread can be deleted after the race if anyone wants.

Anyway to start of, only caught the tail end of John McCricrick on 5live but he says a good each way bet is - Hello Bud at 50/1.

The English Grand National? The Irish National?

Typical West-Brit.
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: sammymaguire on April 10, 2010, 12:47:25 PM
3. Vic Venturi
8. Tricky Trickster
11. Dream Alliance

I like the numbers  8) full back, centre field and centre three-quarters  ;)
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other r
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2010, 12:58:41 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 10, 2010, 12:06:10 PM
Always thought Milltown Row would have made a good jockey.

::) ::)
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: Louth Exile on April 10, 2010, 01:14:12 PM
Hoping Dessie Hughes has a good day and backed both of his e/w, Vic Venturi & Black Apalachi. Both on the same big weight, but the winners of the last two Beecher Chases over this course and 1st and 2nd in a good prep race last time out at Fairyhouse.
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: Homer on April 10, 2010, 01:17:38 PM
My picks...

State Of Play 16/1 - 1pt e/w
Comply or Die 20/1 - 1pt e/w
Hello Bud 40/1 - 0.5pt e/w
Maljimar 40/1 - 0.5pt e/w
Ellerslie George 100/1 - 0.25pt e/w
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: ross4life on April 10, 2010, 01:22:10 PM
i haven't had a winner on this race since West Tip way back in 1986, it's about time my luck changes today

Comply or Die 20 euro e/w i'll go for
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other r
Post by: ziggysego on April 10, 2010, 01:30:49 PM
Early tip for the Grand National. CREOSOTE 16/1 Very Good over fences.
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other r
Post by: The Worker on April 10, 2010, 01:37:01 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on April 10, 2010, 01:30:49 PM
Early tip for the Grand National. CREOSOTE 16/1 Very Good over fences.

fail
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other r
Post by: ziggysego on April 10, 2010, 01:46:57 PM
Quote from: The Worker on April 10, 2010, 01:37:01 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on April 10, 2010, 01:30:49 PM
Early tip for the Grand National. CREOSOTE 16/1 Very Good over fences.

fail

Lame horse?
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other r
Post by: The Worker on April 10, 2010, 01:51:35 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on April 10, 2010, 01:46:57 PM
Quote from: The Worker on April 10, 2010, 01:37:01 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on April 10, 2010, 01:30:49 PM
Early tip for the Grand National. CREOSOTE 16/1 Very Good over fences.

fail

Lame horse?

double fail
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: FL/MAYO on April 10, 2010, 01:57:55 PM
My dad likes "the package"
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on April 10, 2010, 02:01:59 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on April 10, 2010, 09:37:21 AM
McCririck also said last night "only back each way if the horse is 33/1 or better"

Sean Grahams not putting prices up until 10am on website.

McCririck is a f**king clown. ("You know nothing about racing John" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfPpBpDaSXE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfPpBpDaSXE))

Everything down to 3/1 should be backed e/w in my view and there's method in that madness.

Gone for Maljimar and Arbor Supreme today. Stick to horses under the 11st mark and ignore the French breds. Last year's winner Mon Mome defied both them trends but last year's race was a funny renewal. When Black Apalachi unseated at Bechers second time round nothing wanted to go on and they crawled until three out when there was still a plethora of horses still in contention.
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other r
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 10, 2010, 02:10:35 PM
i do AP every year, law of averages, he has to sometime. Dont Push It is his ride today - 20/1
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other r
Post by: ONeill on April 10, 2010, 03:05:05 PM
Irish raptor, vic venturi, tricky trickster, state of play, character building.
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: Louth Exile on April 10, 2010, 03:11:16 PM
With No Ruby for Big Fella thanks he is already out to 11's - Fingers crossed that its nothing too serious
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other r
Post by: Minder on April 10, 2010, 03:12:15 PM
Maljimar
Ballyholland
Tricky Trickster
Niche Market
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: Onlooker on April 10, 2010, 03:52:40 PM
Comply or Die & Ballyholland.
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other r
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 10, 2010, 04:05:18 PM
Pin sticker on Snowy Morning @ 14/1 and Backstage @ 25/1. Both e/w.
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other r
Post by: Minder on April 10, 2010, 04:12:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 10, 2010, 04:10:15 PM
Arbor Supreme.

Nobody going for Priests Leap?

I thought it was Priests Lap so gave it a miss.
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: ross4life on April 10, 2010, 04:18:08 PM
ffs that was some start  :D
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other r
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 10, 2010, 04:20:45 PM
Paul Carberry had some race.

There should be a sniper taking out loose horses.
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other r
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 10, 2010, 04:25:07 PM
Backstage unseated. tr**p.
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other r
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 10, 2010, 04:28:41 PM
Brilliant. Don't mind losing to see McCoy winning.
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other r
Post by: ross4life on April 10, 2010, 04:30:27 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 10, 2010, 04:28:41 PM
Brilliant. Don't mind losing to see McCoy winning.

i bet that McCoy 4 times before in the National & he didn't get halfway around the course  >:(
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: glens73 on April 10, 2010, 04:30:56 PM
Didn't win anything, but delighted to see McCoy win it, the icing on the cake of a phenomenal career.
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other r
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 10, 2010, 04:32:03 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 10, 2010, 02:10:35 PM
i do AP every year, law of averages, he has to sometime. Dont Push It is his ride today - 20/1


;D ;D

£10 straight at 20/1 - Will take that

Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: Square Ball on April 10, 2010, 04:32:35 PM
£50 in the back pocket for SB, had it in the sweep in work
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: randomtask on April 10, 2010, 04:33:00 PM
had black apalache and push it both each way :)
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: ross4life on April 10, 2010, 04:39:19 PM
wow just showed on bbc, 5k one punter put on the winner
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other r
Post by: Main Street on April 10, 2010, 04:44:10 PM
Looked a brilliant ride, a case of the jockey dragging the last ounce of energy out of the horse to get there first.

In the race before, McCoy was riding a dodgy jumper called Rare Bob, a superb feat to get him into third place.
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: The Worker on April 10, 2010, 04:52:27 PM
Fair play AP


IRELAND'S GREATEST EVER SPORTSMAN
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 10, 2010, 05:14:19 PM
They'll be dancing in St Ergnat's tonite :)
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: The Gs Man on April 10, 2010, 05:31:52 PM
There's bookies in Lurgan have run out of money...
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: T Fearon on April 10, 2010, 05:46:36 PM
Paddy Power lost £5m reportedly. ;D
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: leenie on April 10, 2010, 06:55:27 PM
 :D :D :D :D :D


fair play a.p.... had an each way

delighted for a.p... great race!
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: down6061689194 on April 10, 2010, 08:09:52 PM
Best money Ive ever lost.

Most mutual respect and admiration for a winner I have seen. Absolutely Marvelous.
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: Louth Exile on April 10, 2010, 10:00:15 PM
I'm still on a high, despite having watched the club play bloody awful in a subsidary league game. My own selections Black Aplachi (2nd e/w @ 14/1) and Vic Venturi (free bet as a result of the fall) did well. But it was the fact the oldest fella picked the Big Fella and both the wife and young lad picked Mc Coys mount, meant that once the three of them jumped the last I could declare to having backed the winner of the National ... Yahoooooo, elbow and all to come. The bet on the winner was only €5 e/w, but when you get 22/1 and the horse goes off at 10/ jf it is particularly sweet. Loving it  :D
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: CentreHalfBack on April 11, 2010, 12:39:01 AM
Congratulations A.P - a joy to watch
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2010, 01:06:37 AM
was driving past the bookies in Randlestown, place was packed out into the street with happy punters ready to collect on A.P's win. was pleased as fook when he came through. my wee girl picked the 5th placed horse, i'd got it at 40/1 :(
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: bcarrier on April 11, 2010, 05:58:32 PM
well done to hoof hearted. The rest of ye are aftertimers  ;).

Happy for AP/ JP / johnjo ....
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: Hound on April 12, 2010, 07:18:12 AM
A technical question:

With King John's Castle not crossing the start line, is he regarded as a non-runner?

If not, have any of the larger bookies done the gesture of giving money back on KJC anyway?
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: maddog on April 12, 2010, 08:55:52 AM
Quote from: Hound on April 12, 2010, 07:18:12 AM
A technical question:

With King John's Castle not crossing the start line, is he regarded as a non-runner?

If not, have any of the larger bookies done the gesture of giving money back on KJC anyway?

If he comes under orders then you have lost your money
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: Louth Exile on April 12, 2010, 01:29:31 PM
Quote from: maddog on April 12, 2010, 08:55:52 AM
Quote from: Hound on April 12, 2010, 07:18:12 AM
A technical question:

With King John's Castle not crossing the start line, is he regarded as a non-runner?

If not, have any of the larger bookies done the gesture of giving money back on KJC anyway?

If he comes under orders then you have lost your money

I'd be pretty certain VC would give you the stake back in the form of free bet. Given the race and the circumstances I would imagine it is one where Paddy Power is refunding. Your traditional bookmakers like Ladbrokes or small independents will most like stick to the official line and your money is gone!
Title: Re: Grand National Predictions - just the big race, Horsy thread for all other races
Post by: SambaSaffron on April 12, 2010, 03:27:47 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on April 10, 2010, 05:14:19 PM
They'll be dancing in St Ergnat's tonite :)
Certainly were. In some cases, still are  :D