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Title: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge - Final Standings
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on March 10, 2010, 05:56:30 PM
Right lads and lasssies, here are the rules and regulations as we agreed on over on the Horse Racing thread a few weeks back:

-> Daily mythical bank of €100 to bet - so €400 over the four days

-> One selection per race - either win single or e/w (e/w = your stake X2, e.g. €10 e/w is €20 overall), no multiples, doubles, patents, lucky 15s etc.

-> Participants must select one horse in each race

-> Participants who exceed their €100 bank on an individual day are disqualified

-> Participants can only use their €100 bank on the one day - e.g. no carry over of €20 to Wednesday if you've only bet €80 on Tuesday

-> Only the official SP as published in the Racing Post will be used

-> Only the offiicial result will be used in the case of a stewards enquiry and ammended result - no double result as paid out by most bookmakers (Dead heat pays out half your stake)

-> Place terms: 1/4 the odds in all races - 4 places in races of 16 runners or more, 3 places in races with under 16 runners

-> Winner will be the person who generates the most € profit at the end of the four days - in the event that no one makes a profit, the person with the least loss over the four days will be deemed the winner.


Example of an entry for the Tuesday of last year's festival:

1:30 - Go Native €10 win
2:05 - Forpadydeplasterer €20 win
2:40 - Wichita Lineman €10 win
3:20 - Punjabi €5 e/w
4:00 - Garde Champetre €20 win
4:40 - Quevega €30 win


All selections before the off time of the first race each day please. Probably be Saturday or Sunday week before I have the results up given that'll I'll only be flying home late Friday night.

If anyone spots any issues or problems with the format then raise them before Monday.
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: leenie on March 10, 2010, 06:16:18 PM

what rate you giving for sterling?

only kidding... good work, looking forward to it !
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: The Worker on March 10, 2010, 06:37:58 PM
is there a minimum bet per race?
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: Shamrock Shore on March 10, 2010, 07:24:08 PM
Looking forward to the challenge!

Thanks DH for taking the time out.
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: Lecale2 on March 10, 2010, 08:10:08 PM
Have to have a go at this.
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: Homer on March 10, 2010, 08:15:46 PM
Fair play DH. I'll give it a go (provided I can make it to a computer next week)
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: Catch the high ball on March 10, 2010, 08:47:17 PM
Grand job DH. Can you post your selections the nights before the racedays?
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: boojangles on March 10, 2010, 11:13:00 PM
Is it necessary to tip in each race or are we allowed put for example all 100 euro on Dunguib on the Tuesday and leave it at that??
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: leenie on March 10, 2010, 11:17:20 PM
is there a minimum...

or could you put 5 £1 wins on and then a £95 win on one?
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 10, 2010, 11:43:18 PM
Thanks a million for running this DH. If you want me to give youa  hand with totting up results before you get back then give me a shout by PM.

One question, if any race starts with less than 8 runners, will there only be 2 places e/w? (don't mean to be awkward but better to sort these things out at the start)
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on March 11, 2010, 12:49:29 AM
I think we'll set minimum bet of €1 or 50c e/w in case someone wants to lump €95 on Dunguib and spread the €5 over the other five races. Remember though, the winner is determined by the most profit so lumping on the four odds-on shots might not be the best strategy - your €95 stake won't count in the standings.

Not that this will happen but just to cover ourselves:

Each way terms in races with 5-7 runners -> 1/4 odds two places
                                  4 runners or less -> win only
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: Louth Exile on March 11, 2010, 01:43:52 AM
Fair Play to you. Looking at your example bet for first day last year, What a docket that would have been  :D
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: bcarrier on March 11, 2010, 09:13:27 AM
Good man. I'll be there for duration too so going to stick the lot up now - if any NRs switch me to favourite

Tuesday 16th March
13:30, Spinal Research Supreme Novices' Hurdle (Grade 1) Oscar Whiskey £5ew
14:05, Irish Independent Arkle Challenge Trophy Chase (Grade 1) Mad Max £5ew
14:40, William Hill Trophy Handicap Chase Razor Royale £5ew
5:20, Smurfit Kappa Champion Hurdle Challenge Trophy (Grade 1) Punjabi £25ew
16:00, Glenfarclas Handicap Chase (Cross Country) Another jewel £5ew
16:40, David Nicholson Mares' Hurdle Quevega £10 win

Wednesday 17th March
13:30, National Hunt Chase Challenge Cup (Amateur Riders' Novices' Chase) Jadanli £5ew
14:05, Neptune Investment Management Novices' Hurdle (Grade 1) Finnegans Rainbow £25ew
14:40, Rsa Chase (Grade 1)  Long Run £5 win
15:20, Seasons Holidays Queen Mother Champion Chase (Grade 1) Kalahari King £5 win
16:00, Coral Cup (Handicap Hurdle) (Grade 3) Smoking Aces £5ew
16:40, Fred Winter Juvenile Novices' Handicap Hurdle (Grade 3) Sonamix £5ew
17:15, Weatherbys Champion Bumper (Open NH Flat Race) (Grade 1) Shotfrom the hip £10 win


Thursday 18th March
13:30, Jewson Novices' Handicap Chase (Listed Race) Nicanor £10 ew
14:05, Pertemps Final (Handicap Hurdle) (Listed Race) Erzen £5 ew
14:40, Ryanair Chase (Grade 1) Albertas Run £5 ew
15:20, Ladbrokes World Hurdle (Grade 1) Big Bucks £30 win
16:00, Byrne Group Plate (Handicap Chase) (Grade 3) Finger on the Pulse £10 ew
16:40, Fulke Walwyn Kim Muir Challenge Cup Handicap Chase (Amateur Riders) Qhilimar £5 ew

Friday 19th March
13:30, Jcb Triumph Hurdle (Grade 1) Carlito Brigante £10 win
14:05, Vincent O'Brien County Handicap Hurdle (Grade 3) Bellvano £10 win
14:40, Albert Bartlett Novices' Hurdle (Grade 1) Premier Victory £5 ew
15:20, Totesport Cheltenham Gold Cup Chase (Grade 1) Kauto Star £10 win
16:00, Christie's Foxhunter Chase Challenge Cup Dun Doire £10 ew
16:40, Martin Pipe Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Meath All star £10ew
17:15, Johnny Henderson Grand Annual Chase (Handicap) (Grade 3) Your the top £10 ew
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: The Subbie on March 11, 2010, 10:04:48 AM
Quote from: bcarrier on March 11, 2010, 09:13:27 AM
Good man. I'll be there for duration too so going to stick the lot up now - if any NRs switch me to favourite
Wednesday 17th March
13:30, National Hunt Chase Challenge Cup (Amateur Riders' Novices' Chase) Jadanli £5ew
14:05, Neptune Investment Management Novices' Hurdle (Grade 1) Finnegans Rainbow £25ew
14:40, Rsa Chase (Grade 1)  Long Run £5 win
15:20, Seasons Holidays Queen Mother Champion Chase (Grade 1) Kalahari King £5 win
16:00, Coral Cup (Handicap Hurdle) (Grade 3) Smoking Aces £5ew
16:40, Fred Winter Juvenile Novices' Handicap Hurdle (Grade 3) Sonamix £5ew
17:15, Weatherbys Champion Bumper (Open NH Flat Race) (Grade 1) Shotfrom the hip £10 win

Long Run non runner according to Off the ball last night.
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: Homer on March 11, 2010, 10:22:46 AM
Quote from: The Subbie on March 11, 2010, 10:04:48 AM
Quote from: bcarrier on March 11, 2010, 09:13:27 AM
Good man. I'll be there for duration too so going to stick the lot up now - if any NRs switch me to favourite
Wednesday 17th March
13:30, National Hunt Chase Challenge Cup (Amateur Riders' Novices' Chase) Jadanli £5ew
14:05, Neptune Investment Management Novices' Hurdle (Grade 1) Finnegans Rainbow £25ew
14:40, Rsa Chase (Grade 1)  Long Run £5 win
15:20, Seasons Holidays Queen Mother Champion Chase (Grade 1) Kalahari King £5 win
16:00, Coral Cup (Handicap Hurdle) (Grade 3) Smoking Aces £5ew
16:40, Fred Winter Juvenile Novices' Handicap Hurdle (Grade 3) Sonamix £5ew
17:15, Weatherbys Champion Bumper (Open NH Flat Race) (Grade 1) Shotfrom the hip £10 win

Long Run non runner according to Off the ball last night.

Non-Runner for the Arkle. Still all guns blazing for the RSA.

You nearly gave me a heart-attack.
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: Homer on March 11, 2010, 10:31:52 AM
Might be worth opening a thread now for each day and leave this thread for general discussion.

I'm sure the non-racing fans won't mind the extra threads for the couple of days that's in it and it may leave the totting-up a bit easier.
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on March 11, 2010, 12:45:56 PM
Quote from: Homer on March 11, 2010, 10:31:52 AM
Might be worth opening a thread now for each day and leave this thread for general discussion.

I'm sure the non-racing fans won't mind the extra threads for the couple of days that's in it and it may leave the totting-up a bit easier.

Good idea

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=15696.0 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=15696.0)

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=15695.0 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=15695.0)

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=15694.0 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=15694.0)

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=15693.0 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=15693.0)
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: ziggysego on March 11, 2010, 12:47:23 PM
Quote from: Homer on March 11, 2010, 10:31:52 AM
Might be worth opening a thread now for each day and leave this thread for general discussion.

I'm sure the non-racing fans won't mind the extra threads for the couple of days that's in it and it may leave the totting-up a bit easier.

Wouldn't we?  >:(









































;)
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: Doogie Browser on March 11, 2010, 12:49:26 PM
Fair play DH, looking forward to this, will be gutted if at the end of the week I have a load of 'virtual' cash and feck all from my real punting!
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on March 12, 2010, 11:52:57 AM
Because a lot of people are putting selections up already and given the likeliehood of NRs I think we'll stipulate that if your horse is a non-runner and you haven't selected a reserve then your stake goes on the SP favourite. If there's joint favourites then the stake is divided accordingly.
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: winsamsoon on March 12, 2010, 03:56:32 PM
The only way to handle it DH good man. Looking forward to the cheltenham butterflies on tuesday. ;)
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: Catch the high ball on March 12, 2010, 06:01:00 PM
Can you just put up your selections, with your selection then your reserve choice in brackets beside it for every race?
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on March 12, 2010, 10:25:14 PM
Quote from: Catch the high ball on March 12, 2010, 06:01:00 PM
Can you just put up your selections, with your selection then your reserve choice in brackets beside it for every race?

Yep. Just put that stipulation in for those who have already posted their selections without reserves.
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on March 21, 2010, 10:45:42 PM
Here are the final totals for the tipping challenge. Remember it is the profit (or loss in most cases!) from the original €400 that determines finishing order.

Incredible performance from Homer who wins easy on the bridle.

Winsamsoon ran a very respectable race in second but never looked like troubling the winner.

AZOffaly plugged on for third.

                       €
Homer                   111.25
Winsamsoon   62.08
AZOffaly                   -5
Ludermor                   -13.75
Louth Exile                   -31.25
Benny Harp      -46.83
Brick Tamlin   -115.63
Stiffler                   -122.92
Mikasas                   -125
Sammymaguire   -135
Shamrock Shore   -138.96
Gerrykeegan   -142.08
TacadoirArdMhaca   -153.55
Doogie Browser   -170
The Watcher Pat   -186.67
TírEoghaingodeo   -211.88
Lecale2                   -218.58
illdecide                   -225.83
RealSpiritof98   -227.5
Catchthehighball   -228.13
Bcarrier                   -231.25
Beer Baron                   -231.25
Souljaboy                   -235.42
Full Back                   -239.21
Joxer                   -249.75
Big Zeb                   -250
Maddog                   -250.2
Cokers                   -256.62
RG008                   -260
Tiberious                   -265
118cmal                   -287.19
Paul McGrath's Da   -293.75
Shrek                   -298.44
Leenie                   -298.88
Mayo4Sam                   -300.84
Mac hinery                   -307.5
Schkite                   -316.25
Maldini                   -318.96
Putitup                   -324.69
Redandgreensniper   -325
John Denver   -330
Kumquat                   -330
Only1clansinlurgan   -332.92
Bendurback   -336.62
T O Hare                   -336.67
A Quinn Martin Production   -341.88
Bensars                   -346.62
Cookstownblue   -352.5
Thewobbler   -357.5
Hardy                   -360
County Colours   -360
Rossie Mad                   -361.25
Theresagreen   -362.5
Treasurer                   -370
Hardstation    -377.5
Boojangles                   -377.56
Massey-135                   -384.25
Adevvabr                   -385
Mickey Linden   -385
Youbetterbelieveit   -395.63
Lady GAA GAA   -398.12
Randomtask   -400
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge - Final Standings
Post by: Denn Forever on March 21, 2010, 10:59:31 PM
Lucky it was make believe.
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge - Final Standings
Post by: Hardy on March 22, 2010, 07:40:06 AM
It wasn't really.

Good man Homer.
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge - Final Standings
Post by: Lecale2 on March 22, 2010, 09:41:10 AM
Unfortunately it was far too close to reality.  :(
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge - Final Standings
Post by: Homer on March 22, 2010, 09:58:43 AM
Big thanks to Donnelly's Hollow and TacadoirArdMhacha for their effort.

Just 358 days to Cheltenham 2011
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge - Final Standings
Post by: Doogie Browser on March 22, 2010, 10:09:29 AM
Well done to DH and TAM, if only my losses for the week were as low as on this thread I would be a lot happier!
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge - Final Standings
Post by: mikasas on March 22, 2010, 10:27:35 AM
The only day I had proper wins was when I was in the pub watching the football and forgot all about the horsies. I made money on here the only day I didn't back in reality! Shocking only two people in profit! Well done DH and TAM on a great job, made the comp a little more interesting!
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge - Final Standings
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on March 22, 2010, 10:54:24 AM
Yep...big thanks to DH and TAM for all the work last week.
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge - Final Standings
Post by: winsamsoon on March 22, 2010, 02:10:57 PM
Good stuff lads provided an extra interest over the festival. Just wished i had stuck to my choices on here ,aybe a would have came away with my trousers lol
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge - Final Standings
Post by: Louth Exile on March 23, 2010, 01:07:03 PM
Now if that was a division three table I'd be (just about) ahead of Cavan and Offaly.
Fair play to Donnelly and Tracadoir for the work put in.
Thankfully in the real world I was the few quid the right side of it, even if I did give half of it back on Friday!

Well done to Homer, much improved on 2009. When all around them are losing their shirt the Cavan man is quids in  :D
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge - Final Standings
Post by: sammymaguire on March 23, 2010, 05:23:21 PM
well done winners, my late spurt was not enough to catch the long time leaders, left too much to do coming into the home straight, bit like Dunguib I suppose...if only I had just lost €140 odd quid in reality  ::)
Title: Re: 2010 Cheltenham Tipping Challenge - Final Standings
Post by: leenie on March 23, 2010, 06:57:08 PM
thanks DH and TAM..... was good craic.... whilst i was in the losing side it was nice to see there was a good few losers worse than me!

well done homer!