do you or are you supposed to give to the collection at Mass?? :-\
this will be good....
If you like being a freeloader - dont give anything. What do you think pays for the heat, ESB, communion hosts etc etc and all other costs that go with the upkeep of a church? I fire them a fiver every Sunday.
Quote from: comethekingdom on December 13, 2009, 01:50:29 PM
If you like being a freeloader - dont give anything. What do you think pays for the heat, ESB, communion hosts etc etc and all other costs that go with the upkeep of a church? I fire them a fiver every Sunday.
You do know the Catholic church wouldnt be short of a few pound?
£250 a year... generous. I normally throw them £2-£3 depending on what I have in my pockets that morning but I do notice some give notes, some give nothing, suppose it depends on whether you go EVERY week
do peopel still use the envelopes?
Quote from: sammymaguire on December 13, 2009, 02:01:18 PM
£250 a year... generous. I normally throw them £2-£3 depending on what I have in my pockets that morning but I do notice some give notes, some give nothing, suppose it depends on whether you go EVERY week
Real money actually - €uros. Wouldn't make it to mass every Sunday throughout the year with days out in Croker etc ;) but I'd say I'd be at mass probably 3 Sundays a month.
Quote from: Square Ball on December 13, 2009, 02:02:25 PM
do peopel still use the envelopes?
my oul ones do. what was ever the point of them, apart from them being able to tell who put in what?
You've gotta be kiddin... :P
Quote from: pintsofguinness on December 13, 2009, 02:06:46 PM
Quote from: Square Ball on December 13, 2009, 02:02:25 PM
do peopel still use the envelopes?
my oul ones do. what was ever the point of them, apart from them being able to tell who put in what?
That's the only point of them.
I know that some churches publish who gives what, do any local ones do it?
Slightly off the point but wasn't the old Irish money beautiful - the celtic designs and the pictures of old heroes from our history. Even the coins with the animals on them. The euro has no personality at all - very sterile looking.
Quote from: Square Ball on December 13, 2009, 02:02:25 PM
do peopel still use the envelopes?
Yes, plus a standing order to pay for a new building two years ago.
I'm surprised ye got this many people that still went to Mass to be honest
10% of your wages is what Jesus said.
Know some Prods who'd give that amount. Church of Ireland publish what is given or not given.
10% tithing is what most good Christian folk give over here!
Quote from: shambo on December 13, 2009, 06:18:31 PM
10% of your wages is what Jesus said.
Was he talking pre-tax wages or net pay?
Kaka gives 10% of his wages to the church.
Quote from: shambo on December 13, 2009, 06:18:31 PM
10% of your wages is what Jesus said.
Know some Prods who'd give that amount. Church of Ireland publish what is given or not given.
Link?
Quote from: shambo on December 13, 2009, 06:18:31 PM
10% of your wages is what Jesus said.
Know some Prods who'd give that amount. Church of Ireland publish what is given or not given.
Where did Jesus say that? there wasn't even a church when he was about. Like who did the worship... Jesus? ::)
Quote from: muppet on December 13, 2009, 07:58:21 PM
Quote from: shambo on December 13, 2009, 06:18:31 PM
10% of your wages is what Jesus said.
Know some Prods who'd give that amount. Church of Ireland publish what is given or not given.
Link?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOU8GIRUd_g
I wouldn't give them the steam of my piss. In fact, people should be taking out of the basket and giving it to charities. The government should also refuse to give them any grant money. They are a totally disgraced organisation and I think anyone who gives them money is seriously misguided.
Quote from: shambo on December 13, 2009, 06:18:31 PM
10% of your wages is what Jesus said.
Know some Prods who'd give that amount. Church of Ireland publish what is given or not given.
Whitewell Tabernacle on the Shore Road - 20% of what you earn (after tax) also 20% of any gifts, loans inheritance etc...!
We give a fiver each week, wife sorts it out. ;)
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 13, 2009, 08:47:39 PM
I wouldn't give them the steam of my piss. In fact, people should be taking out of the basket and giving it to charities. The government should also refuse to give them any grant money. They are a totally disgraced organisation and I think anyone who gives them money is seriously misguided.
Ah ffs give it a rest we know your anti church, this thread doesn't even relate to you!
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on December 13, 2009, 11:23:54 PM
Quote from: shambo on December 13, 2009, 06:18:31 PM
10% of your wages is what Jesus said.
Know some Prods who'd give that amount. Church of Ireland publish what is given or not given.
Whitewell Tabernacle on the Shore Road - 20% of what you earn (after tax) also 20% of any gifts, loans inheritance etc...!
We give a fiver each week, wife sorts it out. ;)
I'd be moving church if the hoors were looking 20%. Maybe that is missing the point!
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 13, 2009, 11:30:39 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on December 13, 2009, 11:23:54 PM
Quote from: shambo on December 13, 2009, 06:18:31 PM
10% of your wages is what Jesus said.
Know some Prods who'd give that amount. Church of Ireland publish what is given or not given.
Whitewell Tabernacle on the Shore Road - 20% of what you earn (after tax) also 20% of any gifts, loans inheritance etc...!
We give a fiver each week, wife sorts it out. ;)
I'd be moving church if the hoors were looking 20%. Maybe that is missing the point!
Tony I know for a fact that people in Whitewell used to get loans and have to give 20% back, they used to try and hide the fact they where getting them, always screwed when getting work done to the house though, their friends would let the pastors know!
Quote from: Niall Quinn on December 13, 2009, 06:24:19 PM
Quote from: shambo on December 13, 2009, 06:18:31 PM
10% of your wages is what Jesus said.
Was he talking pre-tax wages or net pay?
Jesus knew percentages?
Easy seeing he was jewish.
The 1st time I ever saw a brand new BMW was when I had to meet the Bishop on behalf of my school.
I think it may have been a 5 series too.
SVP collection yesterday , Priest layed it on with a trowel .By the time the basket gets to me it's busting with ten's and twenty's . I stick the hand in the pocket , nothing . Drag out a handful of copper shrapnel , look up and my old headmaster is standing holding the basket in front of my nose . Threw in about 26 cent and went back to my prayers .
I think we all know the craic with some of the priests but Harold Shipman was a doctor, does that mean ALL doctors are evil? You can't tar everyone with the same brush myles....
I used to count the collection in our parish.
The envelopes were also used for people who might have gone to mass in a neighbouring parish - there was an agreement to hand over the envelopes to the corresponding parish on the envelope.
The numbers were also so that a record could be kept of who got their envelopes, and which households didn't. As counters, we hadn't a clue who owned the envelopes.
They use the envelopes these days to keep track of what you give and then they send you a form so that they can claim the tax back on your donation.
Quote from: sammymaguire on December 14, 2009, 09:50:45 AM
I think we all know the craic with some of the priests but Harold Shipman was a doctor, does that mean ALL doctors are evil? You can't tar everyone with the same brush myles....
We know that Haughey, Ahern etc were gangster within FF and milked whatever they could get, doesn't mean they all FF'ers are bad but i wouldn't give that party a cent either until I have seen some evidence that they have addressed the issue and fixed the problem. Same goes for the church. Although not a supporter of mass religions of any sort I would have always given to a church collector if they called to my door in the past - not anymore.
GDA - I can choose which threads concern me, you don't choose them for me. If that were the case you'd be barred from all threads that require a braincell, in fact that would pretty much limit you to the "Right I'm pissed thread"
The Giving of Alms
"Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven. Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But when thou doest alms. let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth: That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret Himself shall reward thee openly."
Matthew 6:1-4
No need for those envelopes IMO.
Not a regular attender but when I'm there for christenings and the likes I give the PP his dues, double time on a sunday for a professional isn't cheap either ;D