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Title: Niall Flynn's "36 and Counting...Kerry's Football Story to 2009"
Post by: Ball Hopper on November 22, 2009, 02:51:31 PM
Weeshie Fogarty says:  No County has a publication that even comes close to the level of detail presented in Niall Flynn's "36 and Counting...Kerry's Football Story to 2009"

It's amazing despite being the most successful football county in Ireland that some scribe has not put pen to paper earlier and record for posterity the names and achievements of the long list of Kerry men who have worn the green and gold with such distinction.  This book rights a terrible wrong; that of not remembering our past as it should be.  This magnificent publication is a tribute to all those great men who donned the green and gold for their county through the decades.

Between the covers of this book are the names and achievements, not alone of the Kerry players who have won the coveted Celtic cross on All Ireland final day in Croke Park, but also, and for me more importantly, the names of the unknown and almost-forgotten men who gave their all for the sake of their county without achieving the glory of an All Ireland medal. 

The teams, the names, the facts, the figures, the scorers, the opponents, the dates are all brought together here for you in one superb publication for the very first time. What Niall has published is one of the greatest contributions to the story of Kerry football since The Kerryman's legendary GAA reporter, Paddy Foley, published his history of Kerry football in 1944. That work was entitled simply "Kerry's Football Story".   Niall includes the same words here as a small tribute to PF's account.

Niall's addition of a short summary of news events, both at home and abroad, for each year adds a touch that will educate, recall, and enlighten all of his readers to events long since forgotten. This section of the publication is fascinating in its own right. I am fully convinced that a copy of this publication will in time rest in every GAA home in Kerry and beyond. On this score it is a must. It will settle many an argument and browsing through its 400 pages or so will pass many an idle hour during those long winter evenings. 

Most importantly of all, Niall has now assured that those men who donned the jersey even once with their beloved county have not been forgotten or erased from history's pages but thankfully have been written into the pages of Kerry's amazing football story.

Statistics on Players are from 1928-2009, while County Statistics go from 1884-2009:

Top 20 Scorers (goals and points combined); Top Goal Scorers; Top Points-only scorers;
Top Average per Game Scorers (20 game minimum); Top Scorers in an Individual Game;
Most Goals-only in One Game; Most Points-only in One Game;
Top Appearances from 1928-2009 – the 36 with 40; Darragh Ó'Sé - Details of an Ironman
All the Goalkeepers 1928-2009; Top 6 Family Names.

Kerry's Record when scoring x (goals and points combined) expressed as a percentage.
Kerry's Record when Scoring Goals; Kerry's Record when Conceding Goals;
Goal Scoring Differential Analysis; Kerry's Record Points-only; Replay Records;
Kerry's Biggest Winning Margins; Kerry's Greatest Losing Margins
County by County and Province by Province Records 1884-2009;

Instead of an index, the book has a Register of Players, which reads as a players CV, for example, the 5 players with last name starting with "A" that played Championship Football for Kerry since 1928 are:

Aherne, Darren; 1995; (1-1) in 1 appearance      
Aherne, Pat; 1963; 1 appearance
Aherne, Roger; 1928; 1 appearance      
Ashe, Mickey; 1959; 1 appearance
Ashe, Tom; 1949-1953; (4-9) in 9 appearances

EACH DECADE STARTS LIKE THIS:
1970 - 1979   Summary of the Decade
Kerry played 35 games, scoring 84-531, conceding 34-353.

Munster Championship titles: 7 (1970, 1972, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979)
All Ireland titles: 4 (1970, 1975, 1978, 1979)

National League titles: 5 (1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1977)
U-21 titles: 4 (1973, 1975, 1976, 1977) Minor titles: 1 (1975)

Top Scorers: Mike Sheehy (17-88), Pat Spillane (12-48), Mick O'Dwyer (2-78)

Top Points-only scorers: Mike Sheehy (88), Mick O'Dwyer (78)

Top Goals-only scorers: Mike Sheehy (17), Pat Spillane (12)

Most Appearances: John O'Keeffe (34), Paudie Lynch (27)


1970
Kerry 2-19 Limerick 2-5;
Munster Final: Kerry 2-22 Cork 2-9;
All-Ireland semi-final: Kerry 0-23 Derry 0-10;
All-Ireland Final: Kerry 2-19 Meath 0-18.

1971
Kerry 1-14 Tipperary 1-7;
Munster Final: Cork 0-25 Kerry 0-14.

1972
Kerry 1-12 Tipperary 0-9;
Munster Final: Kerry 2-21 Cork 2-15; 
All-Ireland semi-final: Kerry 1-22 Roscommon 1-12;
All-Ireland Final: Kerry 1-13 Offaly 1-13;
Replay: Offaly 1-19 Kerry 0-13.

1973
Kerry 3-11 Tipperary 0-5;
Munster Final: Cork 5-12 Kerry 1-15.

1974
Kerry 7-16 Waterford 0-8;
Munster Final: Cork 1-11 Kerry 0-7.

1975
Kerry 3-13 Tipperary 0-9;
Munster Final: Kerry 1-14 Cork 0-7;
All-Ireland semi-final: Kerry 3-13 Sligo 0-5;
All-Ireland Final: Kerry 2-12 Dublin 0-11.

1976
Kerry 3-17 Waterford 0-6;
Munster Final: Kerry 0-10 Cork 0-10;
Replay: Kerry 3-20 Cork 2-19;
All-Ireland semi-final: Kerry 5-14 Derry 1-10;
All-Ireland Final: Dublin 3-8 Kerry 0-10.

1977
Kerry 3-14 Tipperary 0-9;
Munster Final: Kerry 3-15 Cork 0-9;
All-Ireland semi-final: Dublin 3-12 Kerry 1-13.

1978
Kerry 4-27 Waterford 2-8;
Munster Final: Kerry 3-14 Cork 3-7;
All-Ireland semi-final: Kerry 3-11 Roscommon 0-8;
All-Ireland Final: Kerry 5-11 Dublin 0-9.

1979
Kerry 9-21 Clare 1-9;
Munster Final: Kerry 2-14 Cork 2-4;
All-Ireland semi-final: Kerry 5-14 Monaghan 0-7;
All-Ireland Final: Kerry 3-13 Dublin 1-8.

A TYPICAL YEAR:      1971

Summary: Played two championship games, lost Munster Final.

Game 1 - versus Tipperary in Killarney on June 13.  Final Score:  Kerry 1-14; Tipperary 1-7.

                                Johnny Culloty

Donie O'Sullivan   Paud O'Donoghue   Derry Crowley   

Tom Prendergast   John O'Keeffe (0-1)   Micheál Ó'Sé
      
       Mick O'Connell   DJ Crowley (0-1)

Brendan Lynch (0-4)   Pat Griffin (0-1)   Eamon O'Donoghue   

Mick Gleeson (0-1)   Liam Higgins   Mick O'Dwyer (1-6)

No substitutes used.

Game 2 - Munster Final versus Cork in Cork on July 18.  Final Score: Cork 0-25; Kerry 0-14.   

Johnny Culloty

Donie O'Sullivan   Paud O'Donoghue   Seamus MacGearailt   

Tom Prendergast   John O'Keeffe       Micheál Ó'Sé
      
Mick O'Connell (0-2)   DJ Crowley

Brendan Lynch (0-2)   Pat Griffin       Eamon O'Donoghue (0-1)   

      Mick Gleeson (0-2)   Liam Higgins      Mick O'Dwyer (0-7)

Substitutes: Paudie Lynch for Pat Griffin, Mickey O'Sullivan for Eamon O'Donoghue, Donal Kavanagh for Brendan Lynch.

Scorers for the Year: Mick O'Dwyer (1-13), Brendan Lynch (0-6), Mick Gleeson (0-3), Mick O'Connell (0-2), John O'Keeffe (0-1), DJ Crowley (0-1), Pat Griffin (0-1), Eamon O'Donoghue (0-1).

Total Scored:  1-28

Appearances: 

2 - Johnny Culloty, Donie O'Sullivan, Paud O'Donoghue, Tom Prendergast, John O'Keeffe, Micheál Ó'Sé, Mick O'Connell, DJ Crowley, Brendan Lynch, Pat Griffin, Eamon O'Donoghue, Mick Gleeson, Liam Higgins, Mick O'Dwyer.
1 - Derry Crowley, Seamus MacGearailt, Paudie Lynch, Mickey O'Sullivan, Donal Kavanagh.


1971 - GAA Winners:

All-Irelands:  Senior Football:  Offaly  Minor Football:  Mayo     Under-21 Football:  Cork

National Leagues:  Football: Kerry   Hurling: Limerick

Senior Hurling:  Tipperary

Kerry Co. Champions:  Football:  Mid-Kerry     Hurling:  Kilmoyley

1971 Football All-Stars:

P.J.Smyth (Galway), Johnny Carey (Mayo), Jack Cosgrove (Galway), Donie O'Sullivan (Kerry), Eugene Mulligan (Offaly), Nicholas Clavin (Offaly), Pat Reynolds (Meath), Liam Sammon (Galway), Willie Bryan (Offaly), Tony McTague (Offaly), Ray Cummins (Cork), Mickey Kearns (Sligo), Andy McCallin (Antrim), Sean O'Neill (Down), Seamus Leydon (Galway).

1971 - In The News: 

•   The Eurovision Song Contest is held in Dublin. Presented by Bernadette Ní Ghallchóir, it is the first colour broadcast by RTÉ.
•   The GAA votes to lift its ban on members participating in "foreign games" such as soccer, rugby and cricket.
•   Seán Lemass, Taoiseach from 1959 to 1966, dies in Dublin aged 71. He was active during the 1916 Easter Rising, the War of Independence and the Civil War.
•   Members of the Irish Women's Liberation Movement return to Dublin by train from Belfast bringing contraceptives as a protest against the law banning their importation.
•   The Social Democratic and Labour Party (SDLP) announces that it is withdrawing from Stormont.
•   Internment without trial is introduced in Northern Ireland. Over 300 republicans are "lifted" in pre-dawn raids. Some Loyalists are later arrested.
•   British troops begin clearing operations in Belfast following the worst rioting in years in August. Taoiseach Jack Lynch calls for an end to the Stormont administration.
•   A rally takes place in Dublin in September in support of a campaign of civil disobedience in Northern Ireland.
•   The government defeats a motion of no confidence in Minister for Defence, Jim Gibbons.
•   Neil Blaney and Paudge Brennan are expelled from the Fianna Fáil parliamentary party.
•   Taoiseach Jack Lynch has talks with British Prime Minister Harold Wilson in Dublin in November.
•   A bomb in McGurk's Bar in Belfast kills 15 people on December 4.

Title: Re: Niall Flynn's "36 and Counting...Kerry's Football Story to 2009"
Post by: Ball Hopper on November 22, 2009, 02:58:31 PM
The launch of "36 and Counting...Kerry's Football Story to 2009" will be at the GAA Hall in Farranfore, Co Kerry on Saturday 12 December at 7 pm sharp (doors open 6 pm). 

Limited supplies of the book will be available for 20 euro a copy at the launch, otherwise the book can only be purchased online in either hardcover or paperback at:

http://www.trafford.com/Bookstore/BookDetail.aspx?BookId=SKU-000138779



Title: Re: Niall Flynn's "36 and Counting...Kerry's Football Story to 2009"
Post by: Kerry Mike on November 22, 2009, 04:07:01 PM
Well done on a long overdue book and resource on Kerry football, looking forward to getting this. From what I have heard there has been some input from a few GAABoard members. 
Title: Re: Niall Flynn's "36 and Counting...Kerry's Football Story to 2009"
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 22, 2009, 08:57:40 PM
Very good. It's a pity every county couldn't do that, have a statistical type book I mean and it could end arguments of when such a fella played etc.
Title: Re: Niall Flynn's "36 and Counting...Kerry's Football Story to 2009"
Post by: magickingdom on November 22, 2009, 09:22:12 PM
sounds like a great addition - surely it could be sold thro easons and a few other bookstores in kerry tho
Title: Re: Niall Flynn's "36 and Counting...Kerry's Football Story to 2009"
Post by: catchandkick on November 22, 2009, 10:23:58 PM
1971 Cork 0-25 Kerry 0-14

Jaysus  some score to concede , that must be the most Kerry have ever conceded?

Presumably an 80 minute game
Title: Re: Niall Flynn's "36 and Counting...Kerry's Football Story to 2009"
Post by: red hander on November 23, 2009, 09:59:03 PM
All Ireland 1991 U21 Final, Newbridge, Co Kildare

Tyrone 4-16 Kerry 1-05
Title: Re: Niall Flynn's "36 and Counting...Kerry's Football Story to 2009"
Post by: Rossfan on November 23, 2009, 10:09:51 PM
Ros and Kerry have 38 All Irelands between them ...more than any other 2 counties combined  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Niall Flynn's "36 and Counting...Kerry's Football Story to 2009"
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 23, 2009, 10:37:34 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 23, 2009, 10:09:51 PM
Ros and Kerry have 38 All Irelands between them ...more than any other 2 counties combined  ;D ;D ;D

Jaysus it's one thing to be claiming ye're Connacht U-21 hurling champions. Another thing altogether to be claiming all Kerry's All-Ireland's. ;D
Title: Re: Niall Flynn's "36 and Counting...Kerry's Football Story to 2009"
Post by: Ball Hopper on November 24, 2009, 10:48:09 AM
Quote from: catchandkick on November 22, 2009, 10:23:58 PM
1971 Cork 0-25 Kerry 0-14

Jaysus  some score to concede , that must be the most Kerry have ever conceded?

Presumably an 80 minute game

Nope...1990  Cork 2-23 Kerry 1-11.

Kerry had a loss to Limerick by 17 back in 1895, but I'm trying to forget that day.

Title: Re: Niall Flynn's "36 and Counting...Kerry's Football Story to 2009"
Post by: Ball Hopper on November 24, 2009, 10:49:51 AM
Quote from: magickingdom on November 22, 2009, 09:22:12 PM
sounds like a great addition - surely it could be sold thro easons and a few other bookstores in kerry tho

Bookstores in Kerry have the option of buying the book at usual discount rates for re-sale. 

They have been made aware of this...

Title: Re: Niall Flynn's "36 and Counting...Kerry's Football Story to 2009"
Post by: Rossfan on November 24, 2009, 07:02:38 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on November 23, 2009, 10:37:34 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 23, 2009, 10:09:51 PM
Ros and Kerry have 38 All Irelands between them ...more than any other 2 counties combined  ;D ;D ;D

Jaysus it's one thing to be claiming ye're Connacht U-21 hurling champions. Another thing altogether to be claiming all Kerry's All-Ireland's. ;D

You have to aim to be up there with the best  ;)
Title: Re: Niall Flynn's "36 and Counting...Kerry's Football Story to 2009"
Post by: johnpower on November 24, 2009, 10:00:04 PM
Looks like an interesting read
Title: Re: Niall Flynn's "36 and Counting...Kerry's Football Story to 2009"
Post by: Kerry Mike on December 13, 2009, 09:57:10 PM
I would recommend this book to anyone who has an interest in Kerry football, I was at the official launch last night and it was very well received. The book is excellent and should be a must for any GAA book collector within Kerry or in the rest of the country.
Title: Re: Niall Flynn's "36 and Counting...Kerry's Football Story to 2009"
Post by: Ball Hopper on December 17, 2009, 07:33:14 PM
Quote from: magickingdom on November 22, 2009, 09:22:12 PM
sounds like a great addition - surely it could be sold thro easons and a few other bookstores in kerry tho

Book available at the following locations in Kerry:

O'Mahony's Bookshop, Castle Street, Tralee
Easons Bookshop, Tralee

Killarney Bookshop, Main Street,
Pages's Bookshop, New Street, Killarney

Gill's Books, Killorglin
Quirkes Bookshop, Cahirciveen
and both bookshops in Dingle.

As well as Ahern's, Sheehan's, Crowley's and Moriarty's shops in Farranfore, plus Bridie's and Henderson's shops in Firies.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Niall Flynn's "36 and Counting...Kerry's Football Story to 2009"
Post by: tyssam5 on December 17, 2009, 08:05:03 PM
Quote from: Kerry Mike on December 13, 2009, 09:57:10 PM
I would recommend this book to anyone who has an interest in Kerry football, I was at the official launch last night and it was very well received. The book is excellent and should be a must for any GAA book collector within Kerry or in the rest of the country.

Is it not just lists of yearly stats? Could you actually even sit down and read it, or is it just a reference book?
Title: Re: Niall Flynn's "36 and Counting...Kerry's Football Story to 2009"
Post by: Ball Hopper on December 22, 2009, 12:16:31 AM
Quote from: tyssam5 on December 17, 2009, 08:05:03 PM
Quote from: Kerry Mike on December 13, 2009, 09:57:10 PM
I would recommend this book to anyone who has an interest in Kerry football, I was at the official launch last night and it was very well received. The book is excellent and should be a must for any GAA book collector within Kerry or in the rest of the country.

Is it not just lists of yearly stats? Could you actually even sit down and read it, or is it just a reference book?

There is more than the yearly stats.  The analysis of Kerry's scoring could apply to any county, or club for that matter.  Score at least 15 points and you win something like 93% of the time.  Plus interesting look at goalscoring.  As well as Kerry's top 21 scorers, top appearances, top scorer based on average per game and much more.

There is also a little history for each year on a national level rather than a Kerry level.

It is the definitive authority on Kerry's championship football history and not something you would sit down and read from cover to cover.  Well, no normal person would anyway.

Title: Re: Niall Flynn's "36 and Counting...Kerry's Football Story to 2009"
Post by: 5 Sams on December 31, 2009, 07:49:30 PM
Had a glance through this book in the bookshop in Dingle the other day.....as someone else said earlier (Kerry Mike I think)...even if you have only the slightest interest in Kerry Football this is a must buy.....one tip....you can get it in paperback for just over 7 of the English pounds on Amazon ;) Looking forward to it arriving :)