Its a beautiful summers evening in June, yet Páirc Uí Chaoimh was not full for the Cork v Kerry replay. A game that should have been a sell out. Dr Cullen Park is less than half full for the Kildare v Wexford game and even Tyrone v Armagh, on one of the best days of the summer so far, was not a full house. Are we shooting ourselves in the foot with all these live games. Two games today, two tomorrow and probably the same again next week. The sunny day supporters are staying away in numbers, maybe due to the recession, but the GAA has to do something and do it soon to attract people back to championship games.
I don't think that we need all these games on TV, yes its great to see the likes of Cork v Kerry and Armagh v Tyrone, but do we really need to see Fermanagh v Down or Kildare v Wexford if it means that games are being played in half full grounds.
Quote from: Trevor Hill on June 13, 2009, 08:08:44 PM
Its a beautiful summers evening in July, yet Páirc Uí Chaoimh was not full for the Cork v Kerry replay. A game that should have been a sell out. Dr Cullen Park is less than half full for the Kildare v Wexford game and even Tyrone v Armagh, on one of the best days of the summer so far, was not a full house. Are we shooting ourselves in the foot with all these live games. Two games today, two tomorrow and probably the same again next week. The sunny day supporters are staying away in numbers, maybe due to the recession, but the GAA has to do something and do it soon to attract people back to championship games.
I don't think that we need all these games on TV, yes its great to see the likes of Cork v Kerry and Armagh v Tyrone, but do we really need to see Fermanagh v Down or Kildare v Wexford if it means that games are being played in half full grounds.
People don't have the money for it . End of.
Yes, definitely.
But prices are far too dear in these times.
€30 for early championship games is robbery. Families could end up paying €200 for the day out.
Its just not possible.
Another thing is that the hardcore supporters will still go regardless. However Saturday evening will not bring a lot of the bandwagon/entertainment seeking supporters and numbers will therefore be down.
Quote from: Barney on June 13, 2009, 08:24:57 PM
Yes, definitely.
But prices are far too dear in these times.
€30 for early championship games is robbery. Families could end up paying €200 for the day out.
Its just not possible.
Another thing is that the hardcore supporters will still go regardless. However Saturday evening will not bring a lot of the bandwagon/entertainment seeking supporters and numbers will therefore be down.
€15 on the terrace , can't beat that .
Yes the prices are too dear, but if the likes of Kildare v Wexford was not live on TV there would undoubtedly be a much bigger crowd.
Quote from: Trevor Hill on June 13, 2009, 08:29:16 PM
Yes the prices are too dear, but if the likes of Kildare v Wexford was not live on TV there would undoubtedly be a much bigger crowd.
Based on what ? Kildare don't bring large crowds and Wexford people would have seen the writing on the wall before the match .
We'd be complaining if they weren't on tv too!
There looked a lot more than 8K to me.
What do you mean Kildare don't bring big crowds Gnevin? They are one of the best supported teams in the country.
I don't think we are showing too many games on TV at all, it gives great exposure and many more people get to see the games. The 30K at the Cork/Kerry game was a massive crowd for a Saturday game with a 5pm throw in.
Quote from: Trevor Hill on June 13, 2009, 08:08:44 PM
Its a beautiful summers evening in July, yet Páirc Uí Chaoimh was not full for the Cork v Kerry replay. A game that should have been a sell out. Dr Cullen Park is less than half full for the Kildare v Wexford game and even Tyrone v Armagh, on one of the best days of the summer so far, was not a full house. Are we shooting ourselves in the foot with all these live games. Two games today, two tomorrow and probably the same again next week. The sunny day supporters are staying away in numbers, maybe due to the recession, but the GAA has to do something and do it soon to attract people back to championship games.
I don't think that we need all these games on TV, yes its great to see the likes of Cork v Kerry and Armagh v Tyrone, but do we really need to see Fermanagh v Down or Kildare v Wexford if it means that games are being played in half full grounds.
June
f**k me we have a "RTE,BBC,UTV" thread crying about lack of coverage and why the Mc Kenna Cup games are not all live on tv and now someone is saying there is too many games on tv. I think its a good thing and as many counties as possible should be exposed to a national audience. We will have had our fill of Tyrone, Kerry and Dublin by the latter stages.
good to see the likes of wexford/kildare and teams like these on tv
I will watch them on tv but would not travel to see them
Too many games can be a portion of the problem, economisc the other.
The main one is that with the qualifiers it ain't do or die. Pre back door you would not dared have missed your county, as it would've been 12 months before they were back out again. These days... sure they'll be back out in a loc of weeks time.
Quote from: Zulu on June 13, 2009, 08:50:17 PM
There looked a lot more than 8K to me.
What do you mean Kildare don't bring big crowds Gnevin? They are one of the best supported teams in the country.
I don't think we are showing too many games on TV at all, it gives great exposure and many more people get to see the games. The 30K at the Cork/Kerry game was a massive crowd for a Saturday game with a 5pm throw in.
They use to bring large crowds not so much over the past 2/3 years in my own personal experence but that is to be expected with the downturn in the team
QuoteDr Cullen Park is less than half full for the Kildare v Wexford game
Eh? Probably 70% full, side Terrace was full, stand was full and remain standing areas were well populated. Wexford I swear had less than a 1K supporters, very disappointing from normally excellent supporters.
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Based on what ? Kildare don't bring large crowds and Wexford people would have seen the writing on the wall before the match .
::) Of course not but then why would the Dublin Council, sorry Leinster Council move Kildare out of Croke Park? As for personal experience, Gnevin honestly have you ever been to a Kildare game outside Croke Park?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 13, 2009, 11:30:58 PM
QuoteDr Cullen Park is less than half full for the Kildare v Wexford game
Eh? Probably 70% full, side Terrace was full, stand was full and remain standing areas were well populated. Wexford I swear had less than a 1K supporters, very disappointing from normally excellent supporters.
The attendence was somewhere in the region of 8500 according to RTE, I cannot remember the exact figure. Dr Cullen Park holds 19000.
I think women are getting curvier now and the men are staying at home riding.
The attendance might be right, would have thought 10K ish myself but no way does that ground hold 19K :o
Quote from: ziggysego on June 13, 2009, 08:57:07 PM
Quote from: Trevor Hill on June 13, 2009, 08:08:44 PM
Its a beautiful summers evening in July, yet Páirc Uí Chaoimh was not full for the Cork v Kerry replay. A game that should have been a sell out. Dr Cullen Park is less than half full for the Kildare v Wexford game and even Tyrone v Armagh, on one of the best days of the summer so far, was not a full house. Are we shooting ourselves in the foot with all these live games. Two games today, two tomorrow and probably the same again next week. The sunny day supporters are staying away in numbers, maybe due to the recession, but the GAA has to do something and do it soon to attract people back to championship games.
I don't think that we need all these games on TV, yes its great to see the likes of Cork v Kerry and Armagh v Tyrone, but do we really need to see Fermanagh v Down or Kildare v Wexford if it means that games are being played in half full grounds.
June
ziggy, if I was to spend my time correcting all your typos/poor grammar and inaccuracies I wouldn't get much work done during the week.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 13, 2009, 11:30:58 PM
QuoteDr Cullen Park is less than half full for the Kildare v Wexford game
Eh? Probably 70% full, side Terrace was full, stand was full and remain standing areas were well populated. Wexford I swear had less than a 1K supporters, very disappointing from normally excellent supporters.
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Based on what ? Kildare don't bring large crowds and Wexford people would have seen the writing on the wall before the match .
::) Of course not but then why would the Dublin Council, sorry Leinster Council move Kildare out of Croke Park? As for personal experience, Gnevin honestly have you ever been to a Kildare game outside Croke Park?
Yes.
No way does that ground hold 19,000 - they'd be squeezed in like sardines.
The terrace side was fairly tightly packed where I was standing anyway. The stand looked full as well. Crowd was a bit sparse behind the goals but you'd expect that. Kildare must have had at least 2/3s of the crowd. Very poor turnout from the Yellowbellies considering they normally bring a decent crowd.
i believe the gaa cannt lose with tv games and attendance figures,with what they have sold the rights to coverage to rte.bbc.tv3,and setanta im sure they more than accomadated for reduced numbers through the turn stiles,this in affect can allow for reduced stewarding and security at games as they anticapte smaller crowds for first and second round games thus not paying larger fees.
30k was a very healthy crowd for Cork Kerry on a Saturday. There's been some big attendances so far this year despite all the negative recesision talk.
There can never be too many games on tv.
I like many supporters, travel to all my own county games plus a few more, however its nice to be able to spend a sunday afternoon watching other countys that i would never otherwise see.
Personally, a game being on tv wouldn't influence if i was going to the game
There are lots of games on tv alright but it's all the big games. The GAA isn't just about that, tho granted it's what gets the crowds. Look at the club games around the country that are fantastic affairs. You can't say the same for say local soccer, they don't compare. Or the sigerson is so much different than the collingwood. So these affairs deserve coverage, but get little tv or video. and isn't the gaa about promoting all aspects of Irish culture, so just because the crowd isn't great doesn't the likes of ulster hurling semi-finals deserve coverage and profile. The game yesterday at casement won't feature anywhere cos of all the big games on Sunday, well apart from here - http://ulster.gaa.ie/landofthegiants/2009/06/15/hurling-semi-final/ - but it at least deserves this.