Now I don't know if Guinness Extra Cold is that prevalent in Ireland yet - I doubt it - but in England its the norm and many bars have done away with regular Guinness and only have this extra cold stuff.
In one small irish bar (that didn't have normal Guinness on tap) I was told by the owner "sure only oul men drink that regular Guinness and sure you're not an oul man are ya?"
So what's the story? Why is this Guinness Extra Cold taking over?
Regular. End of discussion.
Smithwicks
Guiness extra cold was tried and failed when I was bartending over 8 years ago.
I thought it was Guinness all the way now.
Except for Pintsofguinness. Can be a little bitter or sour depending on the day.
I don't have the most sensitive taste buds, but I've drank my fair share of Guinness. And I reckon that the only way a man could tell the difference between a Guinness and a Guinness Extra Cold is to get served a pint of each at once, while watching which pump each came from.
I defy anybody to be handed a pint of Guinness and say without fear of contradiction that it was in fact Extra Cold.
Naturally the colder the Guinness then the more it dulls the taste. Which is why extra cold is popular among people who may not otherwise be a huge fan of the Guinness taste (including me).
Budweiser, stick with Bud Wiser.
All Guinness tastes the same after about the seventh pint.
Quote from: Puckoon on February 19, 2009, 08:32:16 PM
Guiness extra cold was tried and failed when I was bartending over 8 years ago.
I thought it was Guinness all the way now.
Except for Pintsofguinness. Can be a little bitter or sour depending on the day.
;D ;D
i appreciate you humour Puc
YOure the only one SB.
Have to agree stout to cold is tasteless, give me the regular stuff any day.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 19, 2009, 09:16:54 PM
YOure the only one SB.
ach come on, it was funny.
On the regular v cold, I cant stand either of them.
Quoteach come on, it was funny.
Dont encourage him, next thing you know he'll be trying out his humour on girls and that would just be embarrassing for everyone.
Quote from: Caid on February 19, 2009, 08:29:28 PM
Now I don't know if Guinness Extra Cold is that prevalent in Ireland yet - I doubt it - but in England its the norm and many bars have done away with regular Guinness and only have this extra cold stuff.
In one small irish bar (that didn't have normal Guinness on tap) I was told by the owner "sure only oul men drink that regular Guinness and sure you're not an oul man are ya?"
So what's the story? Why is this Guinness Extra Cold taking over?
What a bunch of fancy fe cking tos spots just drink the black stuff as it is and as it was meant to be to he ll with all the new sh ite.
Yeah, even in the local Irish pub the Extra Cold is the norm but you can still get the normal Guiness if you ask for it but if you dont you get extra cold. Although the pub I usually frequent (which isnt Irish by the way) has Murphy's and no Guinness at all.
Quote from: thejuice on February 20, 2009, 09:33:53 AM
Yeah, even in the local Irish pub the Extra Cold is the norm but you can still get the normal Guiness if you ask for it but if you dont you get extra cold. Although the pub I usually frequent (which isnt Irish by the way) has Murphy's and no Guinness at all.
Do they just leave and Extra cold on the rad for a 5 minutes?
Quote from: thewobbler on February 19, 2009, 08:53:35 PM
I don't have the most sensitive taste buds, but I've drank my fair share of Guinness. And I reckon that the only way a man could tell the difference between a Guinness and a Guinness Extra Cold is to get served a pint of each at once, while watching which pump each came from.
I defy anybody to be handed a pint of Guinness and say without fear of contradiction that it was in fact Extra Cold.
Back when the Extra Cold first came out (not sure about now) I found it settled alot quicker and it went "off" alot quicker too. So it really wasnt for the fella that liked a slow pint.
If there's a good run on regular Guinness its plenty cold and it wont go flat within ten minutes.
original name for extra cold was cold flow then guinness changed it for marketing reasons to extra cold,up north they are doing away with extra cold,not sure about down south
I used to drink Guiness all the time but havent had one in years, have no threshold for Guiness or Beer now, 5 or 6 pints and im ready to bust so have to then dance with my old Russian friend.............
As far as I can see all the beer is extra cold in most pubs, even the stuff that's not supposed to be. That way you can't taste it and they could be giving you any ould slop.
My understanding of this cold flow and extra cold malarkey is that instead of the beer going round the glycol chiller once its either sent round twice or simply ran through a glycol chiller with a longer loop. Its the same stuff whatever way you cut it, like somebody else mentioned though it dulls the taste allowing it to compete with the other C&T (cold and tasteless) stuff they serve in bars.
Even the regular guiness is served far to cold, to appreciate the flavours it should be closer to about 12 C.
That's what I was trying to say delboy, bot not as eloquently.
So they finally figured out in my local why the American pints didn't taste like home. They were using a different blend of nitrogen and co2 than we use at home. So now they've installed the exact blend from home and as true as god the pints in Ceol Irish pub now taste like they could have been poured in Omagh golf club.
Trying to go off the drink for lent however.
I have found maybe my imagination that the cold stuff is worse for the guts, not that either are good!
Any of ye tried Guinness red?don't like the look nor sound of it!
They tried that Guinness Red in England for a while. Brutal altogether. Watered down, tasteless, crap. It didn't last very long
Quote from: delboy on February 20, 2009, 02:53:28 PM
My understanding of this cold flow and extra cold malarkey is that instead of the beer going round the glycol chiller once its either sent round twice or simply ran through a glycol chiller with a longer loop. Its the same stuff whatever way you cut it, like somebody else mentioned though it dulls the taste allowing it to compete with the other C&T (cold and tasteless) stuff they serve in bars.
Even the regular guiness is served far to cold, to appreciate the flavours it should be closer to about 12 C.
I agree. In the modern boozer "regular" guinness is really cold and not much different from cold flow. It's only in a decent pub where they know the difference that you'll get a good pint at a warmer temperature.
Guiness cold is the way forward. In a number of years, regular guiness will be the same as guiness cold now. Its the future.
The 'cold flow' stuff is just not the way Guinness should be drank, i've found that it would tend not to agree with me personally because it gives me terrible pains in my guts. It has also been known to have given lots of seasoned 'regular' Guinness drinkers a good dose of the back door trots, mind you a bottle of Guinness of the shelf now & again is quite hard to beat :P
In the pub having a few now. At £2.40 a pint you cannot go wrong no mater what type.
Go to Cork & drink Murphys. Beats guinness hands down.
Quote from: fred the red on February 20, 2009, 09:52:49 PM
Guiness cold is the way forward. In a number of years, regular guiness will be the same as guiness cold now. Its the future.
Sales of all the mainstream cold and tasteless stuff is falling, real beer sales though are on the increase, thats the way forward. Guinness should bite the bullet and realise they are selling a STOUT not a lager, grow a set of balls and actually put some flavour back into it again.
Everything they have done to it over the last number of years has been a dumbing down of the product, cutting way back on the bullion hops (i can't taste anything in the way of hops, i know its a stout but they should still be in the background complementing the roast barley), pumping it full of nitro because it looks good, serving it colder and colder to suit the tastes of the modern day lager drinker until eventually it'll taste of nothing at all. Cold flow is for people who don't like the taste of guiness, if you don't like it dont drink it, don't stand their with a frozen pint of it your frostbitten mitt just to fit in >:(
Anyway crap product with decent advertising, then again in Ireland we are famous for drinking the advertising so to speak.