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Title: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 04, 2013, 11:49:41 AM
Predictions

Intermediate
Na Magha v Dungannon - Dungannon
Burt v Clooney- Clooney
Bredagh v Cuchullains- Cuchullains

Semis
Dungannon v Clooney
Cuchullains v Inniskeen

Final
Clooney v Cuchullains

Clooney to win

Junior

Craobh Rua v Monaghan Harps -Monaghan

Strabane v Lisnaskea- Lisnaskea

Mullahoran v Coleraine -Coleraine

Creggan v Kilclief- Kilclief

Semis

Monaghan v Lisnaskea- Monaghan
Coleraine v Kilclief - Coleraine

Final
Coleraine to win

Senior

Ballygalget v Loughgeil - Loughgeil
Lisbellaw v Slaughtneil- Slaughtneil

Final
Loughgeil to win
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: Lecale2 on October 04, 2013, 12:34:28 PM
Loughgeil to win SHC
Bredagh to win IHC
Creggan to win JHC
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: nrico2006 on October 04, 2013, 01:31:41 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on October 04, 2013, 12:34:28 PM
Loughgeil to win SHC
Bredagh to win IHC
Creggan to win JHC

Predictions

Intermediate
Na Magha v Dungannon - Dungannon
Burt v Clooney- Clooney
Bredagh v Cuchullains- Cuchullains

Semis
Dungannon v Clooney - Dungannon
Cuchullains v Inniskeen - Cuchulains

Final
Dungannon v Cuchullains

Cuchulains to win

Junior

Craobh Rua v Monaghan Harps - Craobh Rua

Strabane v Lisnaskea- Strabane

Mullahoran v Coleraine -Coleraine

Creggan v Kilclief- Creggan

Semis

Craobh Rua v Strabane - Strabane
Coleraine v Creggan - Coleraine

Final
Coleraine to win

Senior

Ballygalget v Loughgeil - Loughgeil
Lisbellaw v Slaughtneil- Slaughtneil

Final
Loughgeil to win
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 04, 2013, 01:55:12 PM
+1 on your predictions for Intermediate and Senior nrico.

Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 04, 2013, 02:04:38 PM
Loughgiel
Cuchullains
Coleraine
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 06, 2013, 01:53:19 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 04, 2013, 02:04:38 PM
Loughgiel
Cuchullains
Coleraine
+1
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 07, 2013, 12:24:02 AM
Cuchulainns easy winners today v Bredagh
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: johnneycool on October 07, 2013, 08:53:04 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 07, 2013, 12:24:02 AM
Cuchulainns easy winners today v Bredagh

Question;
what are Keady always deemed senior when the win the Armagh championship, yet Cuchulianns are in the intermediate?

Is it a club decision or a county board decision how you are graded or if you are previous intermediate winners?
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: nrico2006 on October 07, 2013, 09:34:40 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 07, 2013, 08:53:04 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 07, 2013, 12:24:02 AM
Cuchulainns easy winners today v Bredagh

Question;
what are Keady always deemed senior when the win the Armagh championship, yet Cuchulianns are in the intermediate?

Is it a club decision or a county board decision how you are graded?

Same with all the counties, if you win the provincial title at one level you go up to the next level when you win the County title again.  Keady won the Ulster IHC a few years ago so have to go into the senior club championship now when they win Armagh (think this rule applies for 5 years).  ame happened with Middletown until they won the Ulster IHC.  Burt were still going into the junior until 2 years ago and this year Coalisland won the Tyrone title but couldn't go into Ulster as they had won the Ulster Junior a few years ago.  Someone else went in as the Tyrones representatives in their place this year
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 10:01:26 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 07, 2013, 09:34:40 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 07, 2013, 08:53:04 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 07, 2013, 12:24:02 AM
Cuchulainns easy winners today v Bredagh

Question;
what are Keady always deemed senior when the win the Armagh championship, yet Cuchulianns are in the intermediate?

Is it a club decision or a county board decision how you are graded?

Same with all the counties, if you win the provincial title at one level you go up to the next level when you win the County title again.  Keady won the Ulster IHC a few years ago so have to go into the senior club championship now when they win Armagh (think this rule applies for 5 years).  ame happened with Middletown until they won the Ulster IHC.  Burt were still going into the junior until 2 years ago and this year Coalisland won the Tyrone title but couldn't go into Ulster as they had won the Ulster Junior a few years ago.  Someone else went in as the Tyrones representatives in their place this year

Yeah 5 years seems to be the rule if you win Ulster, though its been more than 5 years since Keady won I'd asume
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: nrico2006 on October 07, 2013, 10:27:42 AM
Aye, think they could go back into the Ulster IHC if they had won the Armagh Championship this year, wonder if they would have or would they have shown ambition.  I remember Gort Na Mona won it a few times, dunno how they were allowed to re-enter though. 
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 10:33:07 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 07, 2013, 10:27:42 AM
Aye, think they could go back into the Ulster IHC if they had won the Armagh Championship this year, wonder if they would have or would they have shown ambition.  I remember Gort Na Mona won it a few times, dunno how they were allowed to re-enter though.
Yeah I think it changed as clubs were re- entering it. It makes sense though, if you win Ulster you should be entering your senior grade and at least give it a bash, we've had strange results since winning Ulster, beat handy the following year and then beat Dunloy in the senior championship only to lose by a point in injury time to Cushendall in the semi final, to getting hammered out of sight this year by Loughgiel, though they have hammered everyone else.

We'll stick to the senior championship for a while, as we are div 1 next season so better games and better prep for the senior championship. No doubt though we may drop back down a grade, yo yo club in hurling anyway
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: johnneycool on October 07, 2013, 10:55:07 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 07, 2013, 10:27:42 AM
Aye, think they could go back into the Ulster IHC if they had won the Armagh Championship this year, wonder if they would have or would they have shown ambition.  I remember Gort Na Mona won it a few times, dunno how they were allowed to re-enter though.

Surely of the Gorts won Ulster, they won Antrim and then would be playing in the antrim senior championship, unless they played senior one year and then dropped back down the following year where the 5 year rule kicks in.

So Lisbellaw are tied into the senior championship for 5 years..


Anyone know how the Creggan Kilclief game when in Downpatrick?
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 07, 2013, 11:25:06 AM
Creggan won by a point
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: nrico2006 on October 07, 2013, 11:42:39 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 07, 2013, 10:55:07 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 07, 2013, 10:27:42 AM
Aye, think they could go back into the Ulster IHC if they had won the Armagh Championship this year, wonder if they would have or would they have shown ambition.  I remember Gort Na Mona won it a few times, dunno how they were allowed to re-enter though.

Surely of the Gorts won Ulster, they won Antrim and then would be playing in the antrim senior championship, unless they played senior one year and then dropped back down the following year where the 5 year rule kicks in.

So Lisbellaw are tied into the senior championship for 5 years..


Anyone know how the Creggan Kilclief game when in Downpatrick?

I think they did play senior and drop down but since then the 5 year rule has came in.  Lisbellaw have won both the Junior and Intermediate and can't see them not winning the Fermanagh senior anytime soon so they are in the Ulster senior for the next few years.
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: No1 on October 07, 2013, 07:44:48 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 07, 2013, 10:55:07 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 07, 2013, 10:27:42 AM
Aye, think they could go back into the Ulster IHC if they had won the Armagh Championship this year, wonder if they would have or would they have shown ambition.  I remember Gort Na Mona won it a few times, dunno how they were allowed to re-enter though.

Surely of the Gorts won Ulster, they won Antrim and then would be playing in the antrim senior championship, unless they played senior one year and then dropped back down the following year where the 5 year rule kicks in.

So Lisbellaw are tied into the senior championship for 5 years..


Anyone know how the Creggan Kilclief game when in Downpatrick?

Quote from: johnneycool on October 07, 2013, 10:55:07 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 07, 2013, 10:27:42 AM
Aye, think they could go back into the Ulster IHC if they had won the Armagh Championship this year, wonder if they would have or would they have shown ambition.  I remember Gort Na Mona won it a few times, dunno how they were allowed to re-enter though.

Surely of the Gorts won Ulster, they won Antrim and then would be playing in the antrim senior championship, unless they played senior one year and then dropped back down the following year where the 5 year rule kicks in.

So Lisbellaw are tied into the senior championship for 5 years..


Anyone know how the Creggan Kilclief game when in Downpatrick?

Quote from: johnneycool on October 07, 2013, 10:55:07 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 07, 2013, 10:27:42 AM
Aye, think they could go back into the Ulster IHC if they had won the Armagh Championship this year, wonder if they would have or would they have shown ambition.  I remember Gort Na Mona won it a few times, dunno how they were allowed to re-enter though.

Surely of the Gorts won Ulster, they won Antrim and then would be playing in the antrim senior championship, unless they played senior one year and then dropped back down the following year where the 5 year rule kicks in.

So Lisbellaw are tied into the senior championship for 5 years..


Anyone know how the Creggan Kilclief game when in Downpatrick?


Our boys blew it JC.  8 points up at one stage. Missed a penalty and Creggan took the lead for the first time in the match in injury time!  I still have no idea how we ended up in the JHC and Bredagh played IHC.
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: johnneycool on October 08, 2013, 08:48:43 AM
Did the fitness levels let those big lads in the forwards down?


Bredagh won the Ulster Junior championship last year and hence couldn't compete in it this year and as there's no intermediate championship in Down other than the yolk with Bredagh and the three Ards clubs reserves, Bredagh were straight into the Ulster Intermediate championship.

Maybe yourselves and Bredagh can fight it out for the Down intermediate championship next year..
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 13, 2013, 07:05:33 PM
Ulster Intermediate Hurling C'Ship

Armagh Cuchulainns 2-14 0-06 Iniskeen

E Rua Dungannon 0-27 4-17 Clooney Gaels AET
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 15, 2013, 01:44:17 PM
Cuchulainns (Armagh) V Clooney Gaels (Antrim) set for Celtic Park before the Senior final. However Craobh Rua (Armagh) v kickhams creggan (Antrim) set for Athletic Grounds on same day. I know the top brass probably want a good curtain raiser for the senior final, but surely these two games should have been at the same venue considering how easy that fixture could have been set, esp as the 4 clubs come from the same county.
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: nrico2006 on October 15, 2013, 02:05:05 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 15, 2013, 01:44:17 PM
Cuchulainns (Armagh) V Clooney Gaels (Antrim) set for Celtic Park before the Senior final. However Craobh Rua (Armagh) v kickhams creggan (Antrim) set for Athletic Grounds on same day. I know the top brass probably want a good curtain raiser for the senior final, but surely these two games should have been at the same venue considering how easy that fixture could have been set, esp as the 4 clubs come from the same county.

Cant understand the logic of having Armagh and Clooney gaels travelling to Derry, and why should Camlough get a home tie for their final?  Ballinderry and Clonoe at Celtic Park is the most confusing of the lot though.
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: sheamy on October 15, 2013, 02:33:08 PM
Maybe a curtain raiser to the club finals? Make the Loughgiel boys play in both games to even things up.

THE Antrim and Down hurlers must wait to see when their Ulster SHC final will be played after the scheduled November 3 meeting was postponed. A statement from the Ulster Council confirmed the decision, althought they stressed that they still intend to play the fixture. "At last week's Comhairle Uladh CCC meeting the Ulster Senior Hurling Final between Aontroim and An DĂșn was discussed again," it read. "Following correspondence received from the Antrim GAA County Committee on the same day, Comhairle Uladh CCC decided not to proceed with the fixture of the final as previously planned for Sunday 3rd November.

 "While it is extremely regrettable that we are unable to proceed with the fixture at this time, the CCC remain committed to playing the Ulster Senior Hurling Final in due course. "There will be no further comment on this matter at this time." - See more at: http://gaeliclife.com/2013/10/ulster-senior-hurling-final-postponed/#sthash.2Ciwhw82.dpuf
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 19, 2013, 09:40:08 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 15, 2013, 02:05:05 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 15, 2013, 01:44:17 PM
Cuchulainns (Armagh) V Clooney Gaels (Antrim) set for Celtic Park before the Senior final. However Craobh Rua (Armagh) v kickhams creggan (Antrim) set for Athletic Grounds on same day. I know the top brass probably want a good curtain raiser for the senior final, but surely these two games should have been at the same venue considering how easy that fixture could have been set, esp as the 4 clubs come from the same county.

Cant understand the logic of having Armagh and Clooney gaels travelling to Derry, and why should Camlough get a home tie for their final?  Ballinderry and Clonoe at Celtic Park is the most confusing of the lot though.

aye, since the rule change of ulster games having to be at the main county ground then this is what happens - 2 teams about 10 mile apart having to make 100 mile+ round trip - madness.

think of how many good grounds could have held this match- Screen, Glen, Bellaghy, Lavey, and if it was a Tyrone venue, coalisland, Edendork, Pomeroy instead of going to Omagh
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: johnneycool on October 21, 2013, 09:25:35 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 19, 2013, 09:40:08 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 15, 2013, 02:05:05 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 15, 2013, 01:44:17 PM
Cuchulainns (Armagh) V Clooney Gaels (Antrim) set for Celtic Park before the Senior final. However Craobh Rua (Armagh) v kickhams creggan (Antrim) set for Athletic Grounds on same day. I know the top brass probably want a good curtain raiser for the senior final, but surely these two games should have been at the same venue considering how easy that fixture could have been set, esp as the 4 clubs come from the same county.

Cant understand the logic of having Armagh and Clooney gaels travelling to Derry, and why should Camlough get a home tie for their final?  Ballinderry and Clonoe at Celtic Park is the most confusing of the lot though.

aye, since the rule change of ulster games having to be at the main county ground then this is what happens - 2 teams about 10 mile apart having to make 100 mile+ round trip - madness.

think of how many good grounds could have held this match- Screen, Glen, Bellaghy, Lavey, and if it was a Tyrone venue, coalisland, Edendork, Pomeroy instead of going to Omagh

Are you sure about this? Owenbeg isn't a main county ground.
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: sheamy on October 21, 2013, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 19, 2013, 09:40:08 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 15, 2013, 02:05:05 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 15, 2013, 01:44:17 PM
Cuchulainns (Armagh) V Clooney Gaels (Antrim) set for Celtic Park before the Senior final. However Craobh Rua (Armagh) v kickhams creggan (Antrim) set for Athletic Grounds on same day. I know the top brass probably want a good curtain raiser for the senior final, but surely these two games should have been at the same venue considering how easy that fixture could have been set, esp as the 4 clubs come from the same county.

Cant understand the logic of having Armagh and Clooney gaels travelling to Derry, and why should Camlough get a home tie for their final?  Ballinderry and Clonoe at Celtic Park is the most confusing of the lot though.

aye, since the rule change of ulster games having to be at the main county ground then this is what happens - 2 teams about 10 mile apart having to make 100 mile+ round trip - madness.

think of how many good grounds could have held this match- Screen, Glen, Bellaghy, Lavey, and if it was a Tyrone venue, coalisland, Edendork, Pomeroy instead of going to Omagh

All well and good while the sun shines and the weather is good. There was a lot of wemen and children at Celtic Park yesterday would have got some drenching if there was no seats/stand.
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 26, 2013, 02:39:52 PM
Are the games going to survive, the weather has been atrocious. I hope not. Really looking forward to the game now. Come on Cuchulainns
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: trasna man on October 26, 2013, 02:58:43 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 26, 2013, 02:39:52 PM
Are the games going to survive, the weather has been atrocious. I hope not. Really looking forward to the game now. Come on Cuchulainns
Celtic park will be in perfect condition for the games tomorrow and the spectators will be well looked after no matter the weather 8) come along and enjoy the big city.
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 28, 2013, 09:00:36 AM
Quote from: trasna man on October 26, 2013, 02:58:43 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 26, 2013, 02:39:52 PM
Are the games going to survive, the weather has been atrocious. I hope not. Really looking forward to the game now. Come on Cuchulainns
Celtic park will be in perfect condition for the games tomorrow and the spectators will be well looked after no matter the weather 8) come along and enjoy the big city.

I have to agree there, the place looked well, very well stewarded too
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: emainmacha on December 05, 2013, 02:07:47 PM
Photos Ulster Minor Hurling Final

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157638379143644/
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: trasna man on December 05, 2013, 03:42:37 PM
Quote from: emainmacha on December 05, 2013, 02:07:47 PM
Photos Ulster Minor Hurling Final

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157638379143644/
Some great photos, you ever caught me up with play 8)
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: emainmacha on December 05, 2013, 04:58:38 PM
My settings on flickr supposed to stop those who not on my friends list from downloading photos, but like everything there's way round them
If you want any particular photo and can't get it, let me know and I'll send it over to you
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: NAG1 on December 06, 2013, 02:54:26 PM
Some good pictures and some woeful technique on show there  ???
Title: Re: Ulster Club Hurling Championships
Post by: emainmacha on December 06, 2013, 06:26:19 PM
Hope you not mean camera technique

If the hurling technique, they are minors (which some would say is no excuse I suppose) hurling in Armagh is the poor cousin to football with some telling me this was first time a Cuchulainn Team made an Ulster Senior Final at any level (again was told the norm for any team winning Armagh Hurling Championship is to go in at Intermediate level for Ulster)

The scoreline reflected this, although it was also affected by what I was told is the best Ruari Og minor team that many from their club (who can remember from previous years) have seen

Hopefully this will be a learning curve for Cuchulainn side and improved results bring more support for hurling in the county

If my informant was wrong I'm sure facts will be corrected by those who know.