McCarthy admits he does not have backing of Cork hurlers

[the Deel Rover]

There are three certainties in life.
Death
Taxes
And Orangeman or Reillers will be last post on the Ger McCarthy thread.


The other near certainty is that the post will have already been made about 5 times previously.

i have a feeling this thread cound go to infinity and beyond 

[Aghdavoyle]

There are three certainties in life.
Death
Taxes
And Orangeman or Reillers will be last post on the Ger McCarthy thread.


The other near certainty is that the post will have already been made about 5 times previously.

o throny of you two finding that funny...

[marym]

I heard that Teddy McCarthy gave a  wonderful speech to the Sars team before they won their County final.

That doesn't count !


Apparently the Sars players were in the pub with Donal Og one night around July time and he gave them a rousing speech and the Sars players actually credit him with the win and not Teddy Mac !

[marym]

I heard that Teddy McCarthy gave a  wonderful speech to the Sars team before they won their County final.

That doesn't count !


Apparently the Sars players were in the pub with Donal Og one night around July time and he gave them a rousing speech and the Sars players actually credit him with the win and not Teddy Mac !

[marym]

Well tis a pity Donal Og Couldn't do the same job on Cloyne as was supposed to have done on Sars. They lost a fair few  County finals . Think they even had Donal OGrady  helping them the last time. Would say Bertie Og was the main man but I read on one of the local papers that Teddy Mac  gave a great speech and that came from one of the players.

[orangeman]

Well tis a pity Donal Og Couldn't do the same job on Cloyne as was supposed to have done on Sars. They lost a fair few  County finals . Think they even had Donal OGrady  helping them the last time. Would say Bertie Og was the main man but I read on one of the local papers that Teddy Mac  gave a great speech and that came from one of the players.

Rubbish ! It was Donal Og in disguise ! 

[Tatler Jack]

Surely you know better then most on here that the CB are, well no one supports them, there are two sides in this arguement when it comes to the fans in Cork, the players or Gerald, but you'll find it very very difficult to find a person who backs the CB and who can think

Reillers can you clarify what you mean exactly when you refer to the County Board. Do you mean the officers (executive) or executive plus the delegates from the Intermediate and Senior Clubs who attend the regular board meetings. Or are you just referring to the County Secretary?

Reillers - any chance of a reply?

[INDIANA]

he's talking to larry reilly about how to get infinity twice.

[heffo]

Does anyone think McCarthy should step down or that the CCB or at fault?

[Malone Aristocrat]

Allen blames board, rules out resolution

John Allen, the former Cork hurling manager, has blamed the county board for the row with the Rebels' senior hurlers and said there is little prospect of a resolution being found to the ongoing impasse.

Allen, who guided a Cork side full of the row's chief protagonists to All-Ireland success in 2005, says the county board "have sought confrontation" and lacked "respect" in their dealings with the players. 

The timing of Allen's words, the day after it was confirmed that the players have decided to meet Gerald McCarthy and the entire executive of the board en masse, will further erode any hopes of finding an immediate resolution to the festering dispute.

Allen is adamant that the players will not play under McCarthy, and the word on the street on Leeside on Wednesday was that the players were willing to engage with McCarthy merely to reiterate their stance on the issue.   

"I put the blame squarely at the feet of the executive of the Board. They have sought confrontation this year, last year and 2002," said Allen.

"They would not engage with the players or have respect for their view.

"They ploughed ahead and made a decision when the players didn' t want a decision taken.

"The two words needed most are 'trust' and 'respect' and I think they have broken down. It will be very hard to rebuild bridges.

"I want a resolution and I hope for one, but I just don't see the players and the management being in that dressing room for 2009.

"That's my opinion, but from what I know is going on and what we have all read publicly, I can't see the players working with Gerald McCarthy. All that has been said has made it much worse."

http://www.setanta.com/ie/Articles/other-sports/2009/01/15/GAA-Allen-on-Cork-row/gnid-35486/

[orangeman]

Allen blames board, rules out resolution

John Allen, the former Cork hurling manager, has blamed the county board for the row with the Rebels' senior hurlers and said there is little prospect of a resolution being found to the ongoing impasse.

Allen, who guided a Cork side full of the row's chief protagonists to All-Ireland success in 2005, says the county board "have sought confrontation" and lacked "respect" in their dealings with the players. 

The timing of Allen's words, the day after it was confirmed that the players have decided to meet Gerald McCarthy and the entire executive of the board en masse, will further erode any hopes of finding an immediate resolution to the festering dispute.

Allen is adamant that the players will not play under McCarthy, and the word on the street on Leeside on Wednesday was that the players were willing to engage with McCarthy merely to reiterate their stance on the issue.   

"I put the blame squarely at the feet of the executive of the Board. They have sought confrontation this year, last year and 2002," said Allen.

"They would not engage with the players or have respect for their view.

"They ploughed ahead and made a decision when the players didn' t want a decision taken.

"The two words needed most are 'trust' and 'respect' and I think they have broken down. It will be very hard to rebuild bridges.

"I want a resolution and I hope for one, but I just don't see the players and the management being in that dressing room for 2009.

"That's my opinion, but from what I know is going on and what we have all read publicly, I can't see the players working with Gerald McCarthy. All that has been said has made it much worse."

http://www.setanta.com/ie/Articles/other-sports/2009/01/15/GAA-Allen-on-Cork-row/gnid-35486/

Interesting that he doesn't apportion any blame to Mc Carthy in this statement and lays the blame totally at the CB's door.

He doesn't say who has made the situation worse by talking, the players or Mc Carthy  - it can't be the CB cause they stayed out of the row after they appointed Mc Carthy.

[Malone Aristocrat]

I'd imagine he's aportioning blame on the talking front to both sides and rightly so.

[orangeman]

I'd imagine he's aportioning blame on the talking front to both sides and rightly so.

Agreed. But I've made the point already how ironic it is that the striking players are quite prepared to sit down and discuss the situation with the CB but not prepared to sit down with Mc Carthy, when in fact the target for their fire should be the CB itself. Thev striking players seem to have allowed the CB to pass through their radar. The players' targets now seem to be those who have aligned themselves to the CB, i.e Gerald and Teddy - but maybe that's a deliberate ploy, knowing that the 2 Mc Carthys will be easier removed than the entire county board, the chariman of which is now Sully's father.

What do you think ?.


Reillers has always contended that the CB would drop Mc Carthy just like they did with Teddy Holland - maybe he's right but somehow I think this fight is a wee bit different in that Mc Carthy is in the job and has a panel of players albeit that they are newcomers.

[Malone Aristocrat]

I'd say if you put yourself in their shoes, what is there to discuss with McCarthy for the players?

GMC - "Well lads, what's the sceal?"

Players - "we think you're crap geraldand its not worth our while training if you're gonna be in charge again."

[Zulu]

Agreed. But I've made the point already how ironic it is that the striking players are quite prepared to sit down and discuss the situation with the CB but not prepared to sit down with Mc Carthy, when in fact the target for their fire should be the CB itself. Thev striking players seem to have allowed the CB to pass through their radar. The players' targets now seem to be those who have aligned themselves to the CB, i.e Gerald and Teddy - but maybe that's a deliberate ploy, knowing that the 2 Mc Carthys will be easier removed than the entire county board, the chariman of which is now Sully's father.

They can't get rid of the CB so there is no point in them trying, but yes, that is where the real problem lies. That is not to say they don't have a problem with Gerald and Teddy, Gerald they don't seem to rate and don't get on with and Teddy Mac appears to be an idiot who has burnt all bridges with every current IC footballer and hurler in Cork for no apparent reason.