Kerry v Monaghan part 2

Started by Kerry Mike, July 27, 2008, 10:12:44 PM

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Oriel Man


I always did love Cavan People...... so wise  :)

Good assessment cavanmaniac, hope you're right!!!

bingobus

Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 31, 2008, 04:54:58 PM
You're right there about the three in a row and if you ask any Kerry player his eyes will bulge with enthusiasm, but football is played with the legs and there's a reason why back-to-backs are so rare; it's because the achievement generally always, at some level, satisfies a group of players until they go out of the competition the following year and spend the rest of the season looking at someone else winning it, to recover their appetite for the summer after. I think Pat O'Shea's freshness and novelty was a key factor in staving that off last year but it seems to be a factor this time around. Only Sunday will tell but it'd be an unreal achievement for Kerry to win Sam this year, even allowing for the fact that it's Kerry we're talking about here. Monaghan will smell blood here for sure.

Best of luck anyway, it'll be hard listening if ye do it but fair play if ye manage it.

(I feel all dirty now).

Away and wash yourself, ya dirty turncoat.  ;)  ;)

I have no problem with Cavan folk, prob to do with location and had many a good session with Cavan folk in Dublin. Its them Orange ones from cross border that sicken me!!!

I don't share your optism though.

GrandMasterFlash

Good assessment surely CM. I'd say it hurt a lot...  ;)

ziggysego

Monaghan have a song out for the Kerry game.

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The Subbie

Quote from: bingobus on July 31, 2008, 04:32:43 PM
Good review Cavanmaniac but I would thought that a 3-in-a-row would be a big motivation for kerry rather than a negative. One thing we have to our benefit is match sharpness in a tight match, no level of training will get you ready for that. But Kerry have such natural footballers that if they are in touch at half time, the rustiness will be gone and they'll home in on the finishing line.

After the Cork match I wonder if Banty has considered big Benny at FF, if things are tight and Vinny isn't working. In the last two games Vinny has looked better out the field. Benny has good hands but quick distribution may devalue his effectiveness at FF.

If big benny does go into the edge of the small square he would'nt be the first Emyvale man to fill that role and if he's half as effective as big Eamon, christ that would be something to spring from the bench :o

Am starting to get nervous now :o :o

orangeman

Kerry 1/3 - Monaghan 3/1


3/1 is too big so GET ON !!!!!!!

the Deel Rover

Quote from: orangeman on August 01, 2008, 04:05:37 PM
Kerry 1/3 - Monaghan 3/1


3/1 is too big so GET ON !!!!!!!


Any odds for the tyrone mayo match Om
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orangeman

Quote from: the Deel Rover on August 01, 2008, 04:08:51 PM
Quote from: orangeman on August 01, 2008, 04:05:37 PM
Kerry 1/3 - Monaghan 3/1


3/1 is too big so GET ON !!!!!!!


Any odds for the tyrone mayo match Om


Tyrone 4/6 Mayo 6/4

the Deel Rover

thanks for the Om a monaghan&mayo double would be a nice bet if it came off , stranger thing have happened remember 2004 Armagh and Tryone were heavy favourites
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All Ireland Club Champions 2001

orangeman

Quote from: the Deel Rover on August 01, 2008, 04:38:43 PM
thanks for the Om a monaghan&mayo double would be a nice bet if it came off , stranger thing have happened remember 2004 Armagh and Tryone were heavy favourites

Would pay nice odds ! Get on !!!!!!!  ;)

tyssam5

Quote from: The Subbie on July 31, 2008, 09:37:52 AM
Quote from: johnpower on July 30, 2008, 09:08:35 PM
Quote from: The Subbie on July 30, 2008, 08:43:51 PM
From reading the papers and the queendom of Kerry website it would appear that O'Sullivan will play next Sunday, some recovery but you'd have to wonder if ,as Darragh O'Se said earlier in the year, would there be a bit of dirty petrol in the tank after a long lay off, O'Sullivan was the game breaker last year and if there is a full 70 mins in him we are in trouble.
As regards the gooch playing on the 40 i don't think Kerry will do this for a number of reasons, 1 as previously posted Dessie will have licience to roam up field and join in with attack and 2 cooper won't thrive in the white hot battle zone that it will be between both 45 metre lines, space at a premium,  no time to look up, bang bang bang not gooch territory @ all.
According to the Queendom boys big walsh and donaghy will provide the threat in the full forward line, i suppose they threw all they could at us last year down the hail mary route with one big man up there i suppose you might as well fire two up there and keep trying it.
Kerry's full back line go into this game with a big question mark hanging over them after thier capitulation against the langers with corey rampent and tommy being more than likely double marked spaces will appear in this sector of the field and the 1/2 forward line will have to exploit these if we are to have any cgance.
Mid field is as usual gonna be cruical as i don't for one minute believe that darragh o'se is finished i would expect Dick to throw all he can at him as if memory serves me right there is unfinished business from the railway cup final, if lennon can repeat his form from the last two days out Scanlon will have his hands full.

The weather looks like it will stay ok so heres hoping for a cracker like last year

http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/dayforecast.asp?day=4&zipcode=Dublin

By the way due to an unfortunate previous commitment i shall be unable to attend the match of the weekend and will be exiled to the dreary confines of Amsterdam city for the bank holiday weekend with 22 other diplomats from Monaghan :o :o ;) ;),a stag party is the event in question anyone know what the crack is with seeing the game on tv over there? Any good Irish bars that will definatley show it??


I assume you are waiting for the Quarter Final ?.

No John , i have not been eating any Kerry produce that may have infected me with the necessary cockiness to be having a thought process like a prince of yerra, its a rather unfortunate double booking in a hectic schedule, so John are you and 20,000 others going to wait for the quater final?  ;) ;)

All messing aside the Kerry fans have no excuse this weekend with it been a bank holiday and all that, thier team needs support after the Munster final capitulation so with Monaghan expected to bring a good crowd will we see a sea of green and gold on Sunday?

Tara should be showing the game.

magickingdom

Quote from: orangeman on August 01, 2008, 04:05:37 PM
Kerry 1/3 - Monaghan 3/1


3/1 is too big so GET ON !!!!!!!

good odds on monaghan that, did i see 16/1 for a mayo/monaghan double this w/e. quite simply i think if dara doesnt have one of his better games kerry are in trouble. mayo have pulled one over on tyrone before..

johnpower

Quote from: The Subbie on July 31, 2008, 09:37:52 AM
Quote from: johnpower on July 30, 2008, 09:08:35 PM
Quote from: The Subbie on July 30, 2008, 08:43:51 PM
From reading the papers and the queendom of Kerry website it would appear that O'Sullivan will play next Sunday, some recovery but you'd have to wonder if ,as Darragh O'Se said earlier in the year, would there be a bit of dirty petrol in the tank after a long lay off, O'Sullivan was the game breaker last year and if there is a full 70 mins in him we are in trouble.
As regards the gooch playing on the 40 i don't think Kerry will do this for a number of reasons, 1 as previously posted Dessie will have licience to roam up field and join in with attack and 2 cooper won't thrive in the white hot battle zone that it will be between both 45 metre lines, space at a premium,  no time to look up, bang bang bang not gooch territory @ all.
According to the Queendom boys big walsh and donaghy will provide the threat in the full forward line, i suppose they threw all they could at us last year down the hail mary route with one big man up there i suppose you might as well fire two up there and keep trying it.
Kerry's full back line go into this game with a big question mark hanging over them after thier capitulation against the langers with corey rampent and tommy being more than likely double marked spaces will appear in this sector of the field and the 1/2 forward line will have to exploit these if we are to have any cgance.
Mid field is as usual gonna be cruical as i don't for one minute believe that darragh o'se is finished i would expect Dick to throw all he can at him as if memory serves me right there is unfinished business from the railway cup final, if lennon can repeat his form from the last two days out Scanlon will have his hands full.

The weather looks like it will stay ok so heres hoping for a cracker like last year

http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/dayforecast.asp?day=4&zipcode=Dublin

By the way due to an unfortunate previous commitment i shall be unable to attend the match of the weekend and will be exiled to the dreary confines of Amsterdam city for the bank holiday weekend with 22 other diplomats from Monaghan :o :o ;) ;),a stag party is the event in question anyone know what the crack is with seeing the game on tv over there? Any good Irish bars that will definatley show it??


I assume you are waiting for the Quarter Final ?.

No John , i have not been eating any Kerry produce that may have infected me with the necessary cockiness to be having a thought process like a prince of yerra, its a rather unfortunate double booking in a hectic schedule, so John are you and 20,000 others going to wait for the quater final?  ;) ;)

All messing aside the Kerry fans have no excuse this weekend with it been a bank holiday and all that, thier team needs support after the Munster final capitulation so with Monaghan expected to bring a good crowd will we see a sea of green and gold on Sunday?


Cant speak for the other 20 thousand but I am not waiting for the quarter final .I have cancelled the holidays and booked my tickets for Croker and am now getting very nervous after watching the  Donegal game again on Setanta ,The thing that impressed me about Monaghan was the lack of panic when the game got tight,their abilility to kick simple scores ,their spread of scorers and of course their mid field .

It will be a hell of a battle .I have not seen Kerry train since the Cork game but would hope that their fitness and sharpness have improved . No Kerry player played well against Cork so they all have room for improvement . This may well come down to who makes the right changes as the game develops .

Tyrones own

QuoteThis may well come down to who makes the right changes as the game develops .


On those grounds I think McAnaney might have the edge, O'Shea didn't impress in the Cork game.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
  - Walter Lippmann

johnpower

Quote from: Tyrones own on August 01, 2008, 10:57:19 PM
QuoteThis may well come down to who makes the right changes as the game develops .


On those grounds I think McAnaney might have the edge, O'Shea didn't impress in the Cork game.


Dead right you are .He had a zen like calm or maybe he had no faith in his bench