Ryanair jet skids off French runway

muppet · March 21, 2008, 08:42:22 PM

RTE.ie

youngfella · March 21, 2008, 09:16:54 PM

oo dear. wonder did any of the passeners have skidmarks !

ziggysego · March 21, 2008, 09:21:06 PM

Chrisowc · March 22, 2008, 07:18:32 PM

That'll screw up their turnaround times. I can just imagine someone turning up with 29mins 30secs before the scheduled departure and being told he has missed his flight home.

muppet · December 23, 2009, 01:04:39 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/8428220.stm

playwiththewind1st · December 23, 2009, 02:08:50 PM

O'Leary charged them 5 Euros each to use the emergency evacuation chute [or 1 Euro if you pre-booked emergency evacuation online 3 months in advance]. Oh sorry, plus another 150 Euros in, ahem, taxes.

red hander · December 23, 2009, 04:51:21 PM

I wish that wee **** O'Leary would skid off a French cliff

Franko · December 23, 2009, 07:21:01 PM

French Runway?

mylestheslasher · December 23, 2009, 08:25:03 PM

In fairness lads if a plane skids on black ice on a runway it is almost certainly the airport authorities fault for either a) Allowing black ice to form and/or b) Allowing planes to land in dangerous conditions. Comedy value aside, it is cheap having shots at Ryanair who have never had a crash unlike many other airlines.

muppet · December 23, 2009, 08:42:27 PM

Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 23, 2009, 08:25:03 PM
In fairness lads if a plane skids on black ice on a runway it is almost certainly the airport authorities fault for either a) Allowing black ice to form and/or b) Allowing planes to land in dangerous conditions. Comedy value aside, it is cheap having shots at Ryanair who have never had a crash unlike many other airlines.

The Captain decides whether or not to land at a given airport, the airport authorities only give permission/clearance. The speed of the aircraft while at the end of the runway or taxiway (it is not clear which they were using when they went on the grass) is not controlled by the airport authorities.

There is not enough information to blame anyone at this time.

By the way Ryanair have had a crash. The claim that they boasted for years was that they never had a hull loss ('Rainman' made the same claim about Qantas) but Ryanair wrote off a hull in Ciampino a year ago. That is not having a go at Ryanair, I think their pilots did an even better job there than the Hudson River guys. For the record Qantas damaged an aircraft (hull) on landing a few years ago which any other airline would have written off but the rebuilt it to retain their 'no hull loss' reputation.

Ryanair have been off runways quite a lot in the last few years. Charleroi, Lodz, Limoge and now Prestwick.

If you are interested you should read an Air Accident Investigation Unit report on an incident from last year released only a week or two ago. http://www.aaiu.ie/AAIUviewitem.asp?id=12076&lang=ENG&loc=1652

Shamrock Shore · December 23, 2009, 08:50:49 PM

Is that French runway not in Belguim?

muppet · December 23, 2009, 08:52:56 PM

Quote from: Shamrock Shore on December 23, 2009, 08:50:49 PM
Is that French runway not in Belguim?

Limoges?

mylestheslasher · December 23, 2009, 09:19:02 PM

Quote from: muppet on December 23, 2009, 08:42:27 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 23, 2009, 08:25:03 PM
In fairness lads if a plane skids on black ice on a runway it is almost certainly the airport authorities fault for either a) Allowing black ice to form and/or b) Allowing planes to land in dangerous conditions. Comedy value aside, it is cheap having shots at Ryanair who have never had a crash unlike many other airlines.

The Captain decides whether or not to land at a given airport, the airport authorities only give permission/clearance. The speed of the aircraft while at the end of the runway or taxiway (it is not clear which they were using when they went on the grass) is not controlled by the airport authorities.

There is not enough information to blame anyone at this time.

By the way Ryanair have had a crash. The claim that they boasted for years was that they never had a hull loss ('Rainman' made the same claim about Qantas) but Ryanair wrote off a hull in Ciampino a year ago. That is not having a go at Ryanair, I think their pilots did an even better job there than the Hudson River guys. For the record Qantas damaged an aircraft (hull) on landing a few years ago which any other airline would have written off but the rebuilt it to retain their 'no hull loss' reputation.

Ryanair have been off runways quite a lot in the last few years. Charleroi, Lodz, Limoge and now Prestwick.

If you are interested you should read an Air Accident Investigation Unit report on an incident from last year released only a week or two ago. http://www.aaiu.ie/AAIUviewitem.asp?id=12076&lang=ENG&loc=1652

I stand corrected!

But are you seriously telling me that the airport authorities could tell an incoming plane that the runway is unsuitable for landing but the pilot can decide to land anyway - doesn't sound logical to me.

Hurler on the Bitch · December 23, 2009, 11:37:24 PM

Apparently the passengers are being charged extra for dry-cleaning of the seats after landing?

Aerlik · December 24, 2009, 03:31:59 AM

Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 23, 2009, 09:19:02 PM
But are you seriously telling me that the airport authorities could tell an incoming plane that the runway is unsuitable for landing but the pilot can decide to land anyway - doesn't sound logical to me.

No, the tower will advise caution but the ultimate decision will be for the captain. If, however, the airport is deemed unsuitable for landing then it will be shut. What may be of consideration in this instance is the surface, ie. if it is grooved bitumen or not. It makes a HUGE difference. Many northern Australian bitumen strips are ungrooved but those such as Darwin and Cairns are, as they are more prone to deluges and flooding.