The Old Derry / Londonderry name problem

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Roger

Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on September 29, 2009, 09:08:48 PM
Quote from: Roger on September 29, 2009, 09:03:55 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 29, 2009, 08:03:19 PM
We're still here  and will be till the end of time. ;)
I'd be fairly certain of that too. We Irish people will indeed be here  ;)

Come on Roger admit it ye all want to be Irish not British at all, ye just like all that pomp and ceremony. Question Roger when Britain becomes a Republic will they have to change the name to the United Republic? Sure ye might as well join us at that stage.
I am British first and foremost with the distinction of beng born in Ireland from a line of people born in Ireland dating back hundreds of years and am proud to be Irish. For me, Ireland is simply a region of the UK.  I support the monarchy and do not see the UK being a Republic in my life time.  If your hypothesy came true, there would be better merit in the Republic of Ireland joining a United Republic of Britain and Northern Ireland, than Northern Ireland joining the Republic of Ireland.   

armaghniac

QuoteYou are of purest Gaelic blood?

I imagine not, who is? Whatever blood I have and whereever those ancestors came from, I now identify with Ireland and not the places they came from.

QuoteI am British first and foremost with the distinction of beng born in Ireland from a line of people born in Ireland dating back hundreds of years and am proud to be Irish.

Stop talking nonsense, if you are proud to be Irish then how could you be British first and foremost.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Olaf

Quote from: armaghniac on September 29, 2009, 10:14:25 PM
QuoteYou are of purest Gaelic blood?

I imagine not, who is? Whatever blood I have and whereever those ancestors came from, I now identify with Ireland and not the places they came from.

QuoteI am British first and foremost with the distinction of beng born in Ireland from a line of people born in Ireland dating back hundreds of years and am proud to be Irish.

Stop talking nonsense, if you are proud to be Irish then how could you be British first and foremost.

Because they are not mutually exclusive identities and you can therefore value one identity as having more significance to you than the other should you so wish.

boojangles

Quote from: Olaf on September 29, 2009, 10:26:02 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 29, 2009, 10:14:25 PM
QuoteYou are of purest Gaelic blood?

I imagine not, who is? Whatever blood I have and whereever those ancestors came from, I now identify with Ireland and not the places they came from.

QuoteI am British first and foremost with the distinction of beng born in Ireland from a line of people born in Ireland dating back hundreds of years and am proud to be Irish.

Stop talking nonsense, if you are proud to be Irish then how could you be British first and foremost.

Because they are not mutually exclusive identities and you can therefore value one identity as having more significance to you than the other should you so wish.

Mutually exclusive identities-Such shite. Proud to be Irish but British first and foremost. Confused or what?

mayogodhelpus@gmail.com

2040

Conferation of Ireland


The British Republic


2070

The Flags of the Independent Republics in the Atlantic Archipelago











2085
Flag of the Atlantic Archipelago



Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

Roger

Quote from: armaghniac on September 29, 2009, 10:14:25 PM
Stop talking nonsense, if you are proud to be Irish then how could you be British first and foremost.
I belive that British and Irish are identities not exclusive of each other.  I am British and Irish. 

Roger

Quote from: boojangles on September 29, 2009, 10:49:24 PM
Quote from: Olaf on September 29, 2009, 10:26:02 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 29, 2009, 10:14:25 PM
QuoteYou are of purest Gaelic blood?

I imagine not, who is? Whatever blood I have and whereever those ancestors came from, I now identify with Ireland and not the places they came from.

QuoteI am British first and foremost with the distinction of beng born in Ireland from a line of people born in Ireland dating back hundreds of years and am proud to be Irish.

Stop talking nonsense, if you are proud to be Irish then how could you be British first and foremost.

Because they are not mutually exclusive identities and you can therefore value one identity as having more significance to you than the other should you so wish.

Mutually exclusive identities-Such shite. Proud to be Irish but British first and foremost. Confused or what?
Ireland is a British isle whether you like it or not and you don't have to be born on the island of Great Britain to be British.  The President of the Republic of Ireland is also on  record as stating that the two aren't mutually exclusive. 

mayogodhelpus@gmail.com

#232
Quote from: Roger on September 29, 2009, 11:08:16 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 29, 2009, 10:49:24 PM
Quote from: Olaf on September 29, 2009, 10:26:02 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 29, 2009, 10:14:25 PM
QuoteYou are of purest Gaelic blood?

I imagine not, who is? Whatever blood I have and whereever those ancestors came from, I now identify with Ireland and not the places they came from.

QuoteI am British first and foremost with the distinction of beng born in Ireland from a line of people born in Ireland dating back hundreds of years and am proud to be Irish.

Stop talking nonsense, if you are proud to be Irish then how could you be British first and foremost.

Because they are not mutually exclusive identities and you can therefore value one identity as having more significance to you than the other should you so wish.

Mutually exclusive identities-Such shite. Proud to be Irish but British first and foremost. Confused or what?
Ireland is a British isle whether you like it or not and you don't have to be born on the island of Great Britain to be British.  The President of the Republic of Ireland is also on  record as stating that the two aren't mutually exclusive.

No such place as the Republic of Ireland and no such title, she is the President of Ireland.

The British Isles is a Imperalist British term, and Ireland has never been and never will be a British Isle. IRELAND IS IRELAND. It will be around long after the UK as desolved into memory along with the Roman Empire, The Ottoman Empire, The German Reich & The Soviet Union.
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

Roger

That President only has jurisdiction over part of Ireland so that term is inaccurate regardless of what she likes to call herself. 

Tell me, will Ireland be around as long as Hibernia  ???

mayogodhelpus@gmail.com

Quote from: Roger on September 29, 2009, 11:37:23 PM
That President only has jurisdiction over part of Ireland so that term is inaccurate regardless of what she likes to call herself. 

Tell me, will Ireland be around as long as Hibernia  ???

Hibernia, Scottia, Eiru, Eireann, Ireland same place.
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

armaghniac

QuoteIreland is a British isle whether you like it or not and you don't have to be born on the island of Great Britain to be British.

Just as you don't have to be born in Germany to be German.

Ireland will be around when Londonderry, the OO and the whole sad sick sectarian NI province will be viewed in the same light as East Germany and Biafra.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Roger

Quote from: armaghniac on September 29, 2009, 11:50:16 PM
QuoteIreland is a British isle whether you like it or not and you don't have to be born on the island of Great Britain to be British.

Just as you don't have to be born in Germany to be German.

Ireland will be around when Londonderry, the OO and the whole sad sick sectarian NI province will be viewed in the same light as East Germany and Biafra.
Rightyho.

Meanwhile, I hope you and your family make the most of your life.

mayogodhelpus@gmail.com

Quote from: Roger on September 29, 2009, 11:57:01 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 29, 2009, 11:50:16 PM
QuoteIreland is a British isle whether you like it or not and you don't have to be born on the island of Great Britain to be British.

Just as you don't have to be born in Germany to be German.

Ireland will be around when Londonderry, the OO and the whole sad sick sectarian NI province will be viewed in the same light as East Germany and Biafra.
Rightyho.

Meanwhile, I hope you and your family make the most of your life.

Your right there, I can't see full Irish Independence for at least another 25 years at the earliest.
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

boojangles

Quote from: Roger on September 29, 2009, 11:08:16 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 29, 2009, 10:49:24 PM
Quote from: Olaf on September 29, 2009, 10:26:02 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 29, 2009, 10:14:25 PM
QuoteYou are of purest Gaelic blood?

I imagine not, who is? Whatever blood I have and whereever those ancestors came from, I now identify with Ireland and not the places they came from.

QuoteI am British first and foremost with the distinction of beng born in Ireland from a line of people born in Ireland dating back hundreds of years and am proud to be Irish.

Stop talking nonsense, if you are proud to be Irish then how could you be British first and foremost.

Because they are not mutually exclusive identities and you can therefore value one identity as having more significance to you than the other should you so wish.

Mutually exclusive identities-Such shite. Proud to be Irish but British first and foremost. Confused or what?
Ireland is a British isle whether you like it or not and you don't have to be born on the island of Great Britain to be British.  The President of the Republic of Ireland is also on  record as stating that the two aren't mutually exclusive.

Even more confused than I thought. You are British,and fair play to ya. British people have a long ancestral trail on the Island of Ireland. Irish however,You are not.

Roger

Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on September 29, 2009, 11:59:20 PM
Quote from: Roger on September 29, 2009, 11:57:01 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 29, 2009, 11:50:16 PM
QuoteIreland is a British isle whether you like it or not and you don't have to be born on the island of Great Britain to be British.

Just as you don't have to be born in Germany to be German.

Ireland will be around when Londonderry, the OO and the whole sad sick sectarian NI province will be viewed in the same light as East Germany and Biafra.
Rightyho.

Meanwhile, I hope you and your family make the most of your life.

Your right there, I can't see full Irish Independence for at least another 25 years at the earliest.
In your dreams will it be fully independent or actually dependent on an even bigger place than the UK ie Europe?