Man Utd Thread:

[oliverkelly]

None of them actually say he's definitely been fined? And even if he is to be fined it'd be for not returning to the tour not for going home in first place..

It's getting quite tiresome at this stage but what's more annoying is rather than adopting the siege mentality of previous United eras fans are happy to join in the bashing..

That's rubbish Boycey. There's a cuckoo in the nest that needs to be got rid of. Mourinho has done nothing for United and there's no reason why United supporters should have any loyalty to him. He's the antithesis of what the club stands for (or used to stand for at any rate). The season could be saved by sacking him soon and getting Zidane in. I'm absolutely sure Zidane would get more out of the current group of players than the current manager.

And to be fair I was a Mourinho critic for a long time. Never changed my spots on him.

There are cuckoos in Uniteds nest alright but its not Mourinho, hes way down the list of culpable people in my opinion. I could debate it with you Seanie, I've tried before but your dislike of Mourinho trumps all other things for you as far as I can see (and I think I mightn't be alone in that). No reason to have loyalty to him? I'll tell you why I'm loyal to him its cause he's currently the manager of Manchester United and until that changes I'll work on that basis..

"If I can answer very simply and candidly. Playing performance doesn't really have a meaningful impact on what we can do on the commercial side of the business."

- That sums things up better than I ever could

You are clearly deluded son

[Boycey]

What am I deluded about?

[trailer]

What am I deluded about?

Your allegiance to a money making corporation. It's like supporting Microsoft or something. It's just weird.

[Boycey]

What am I deluded about?

Your allegiance to a money making corporation. It's like supporting Microsoft or something. It's just weird.

I have an allegiance to a football team, the rest is incidental. #onelifeoneclub

pretty much all soccer teams fall into the same category by the way..

[magpie seanie]

Boycey is not one bit deluded and I would guess not very happy with the story. However - and I'm not sure if that's a direct quote from Woodward or a Glazer - that is the way most soccer club executives think.

[DuffleKing]

If you don't accept that all these clubs are cynical, commerce first entities then you don't belong in this conversation.

Occasionally it works from a PR perspective to push the community work, playing philosophy or tradition as part of the culture that drives the machine. There are no exceptions to this at the top end of soccer - or any professional sport.

Back with the football... I have long ago accepted that vortuslly noone that matters in the game shares my desire that how you play is as important as the end result. Once you accept that you can assess what you're watching more realistically and can appreciate that it in this area that Jose gets the best return.

[yellowcard]

If you don't accept that all these clubs are cynical, commerce first entities then you don't belong in this conversation.

Occasionally it works from a PR perspective to push the community work, playing philosophy or tradition as part of the culture that drives the machine. There are no exceptions to this at the top end of soccer - or any professional sport.

Back with the football... I have long ago accepted that vortuslly noone that matters in the game shares my desire that how you play is as important as the end result. Once you accept that you can assess what you're watching more realistically and can appreciate that it in this area that Jose gets the best return.

The same is true of any sport not just soccer. If Mourinho was getting results with his agricultural football he would be lauded as a tactical genius, instead he is under increasing attack.

In fairness nobody can argue with his managerial record (his is up there with any manager of the last 20 years) but he has never played attractive football and combine that with his general off field behavior and surly demeanor and it is easy to see how many have never seen him as a good fit for Man Utd.

[trailer]

If you don't accept that all these clubs are cynical, commerce first entities then you don't belong in this conversation.

Occasionally it works from a PR perspective to push the community work, playing philosophy or tradition as part of the culture that drives the machine. There are no exceptions to this at the top end of soccer - or any professional sport.

Back with the football... I have long ago accepted that vortuslly noone that matters in the game shares my desire that how you play is as important as the end result. Once you accept that you can assess what you're watching more realistically and can appreciate that it in this area that Jose gets the best return.

I accept that all clubs are cynical, commerce first entities. Utd are the worst by a long way though. I am/ was a Utd fan, but I don't recognise what I am seeing. The first thing anyone in a non footballing role at any of these clubs, cares about is money. Trophies, results, fans etc are way down the list.
I never get why fans worry about the cost of players. If I was a real fan, I'd want them to spend £100m on Ronaldo and £300m Messi, f**k it buy Neymar too for £500m. It's not my money.

Mourhino is a spoilt child. His Daddy (Woodward) won't spend whatever on whoever and he's throwing a tantrum in the shop.

[AZOffaly]

If you don't accept that all these clubs are cynical, commerce first entities then you don't belong in this conversation.

Occasionally it works from a PR perspective to push the community work, playing philosophy or tradition as part of the culture that drives the machine. There are no exceptions to this at the top end of soccer - or any professional sport.

Back with the football... I have long ago accepted that vortuslly noone that matters in the game shares my desire that how you play is as important as the end result. Once you accept that you can assess what you're watching more realistically and can appreciate that it in this area that Jose gets the best return.

I accept that all clubs are cynical, commerce first entities. Utd are the worst by a long way though. I am/ was a Utd fan, but I don't recognise what I am seeing. The first thing anyone in a non footballing role at any of these clubs, cares about is money. Trophies, results, fans etc are way down the list.
I never get why fans worry about the cost of players. If I was a real fan, I'd want them to spend £100m on Ronaldo and £300m Messi, f**k it buy Neymar too for £500m. It's not my money.

Mourhino is a spoilt child. His Daddy (Woodward) won't spend whatever on whoever and he's throwing a tantrum in the shop.

Leeds United.

Fans worry about overspending on players because financial mismanagement can lead to serious issues in the club.

I realise Man Untd are probably immune to that, but in general, that's why fans worry.

[Captain Obvious]

If you don't accept that all these clubs are cynical, commerce first entities then you don't belong in this conversation.

Occasionally it works from a PR perspective to push the community work, playing philosophy or tradition as part of the culture that drives the machine. There are no exceptions to this at the top end of soccer - or any professional sport.

Back with the football... I have long ago accepted that vortuslly noone that matters in the game shares my desire that how you play is as important as the end result. Once you accept that you can assess what you're watching more realistically and can appreciate that it in this area that Jose gets the best return.

I accept that all clubs are cynical, commerce first entities. Utd are the worst by a long way though. I am/ was a Utd fan, but I don't recognise what I am seeing. The first thing anyone in a non footballing role at any of these clubs, cares about is money. Trophies, results, fans etc are way down the list.
I never get why fans worry about the cost of players. If I was a real fan, I'd want them to spend £100m on Ronaldo and £300m Messi, f**k it buy Neymar too for £500m. It's not my money.

Mourhino is a spoilt child. His Daddy (Woodward) won't spend whatever on whoever and he's throwing a tantrum in the shop.

He hasn't a clue what he is doing and how he is still in that role over transfers shows those at the top in Manchester United haven't a clue either.

[Boycey]

Quite the opposite, he's brilliant at his job

[Denn Forever]

I never get why fans worry about the cost of players. If I was a real fan, I'd want them to spend £100m on Ronaldo and £300m Messi, f**k it buy Neymar too for £500m. It's not my money.

Say hello to your new Financial Controller.

[Captain Obvious]

Quite the opposite, he's brilliant at his job

Commercial and media operations is his area. He has no clue on the transfer market and clubs selling players to him know this.

[Boycey]

Quite the opposite, he's brilliant at his job

Commercial and media operations is his area. He has no clue on the transfer market and clubs selling players to him know this.

You know the point I'm trying to make.

[BennyCake]

I don't think I've ever been less excited about the new season approaching.