Man Utd Thread:

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gawa316

Quote from: NAG1 on December 06, 2013, 03:08:01 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on December 06, 2013, 02:54:34 PM
Always Thought Fergies views on the Glazer clan were swept under the carpet. What do the real Utd fans think of Fergies and his defense of the cancer on the club?

Ferguson was never going to risk his legacy at the club by getting into a public slanging match with his employers. Privately being a staunch socialist I would imagine that he would be none too pleased, but at the end of the day he is grown up enough to realise that they are listed company and as such are subject to these types of people buying into the club and running it how they see fit. Regardless of what we think as fans.

He consistently said through his time as manager that they supported him and the club when it came to transfer dealings, so what do we do take him at his word?

But I think he has risked his legacy by not speaking up. At least Rafa had the balls to put it up to Hicks and Gillette. By doing this he raised awareness of how the club was being run and ultimately had a part to play in getting them out.

He did consistently say that, which I think is a load of bollocks. If the money was there then you would have to look at Fergie and think how did he not see there was need for signings to keep up with the likes of Citee, Barca, Madrid, Munich etc or the money actually wasn't available as the glazers where lining there own pockets and paying of the massive interest. So which is it? Fergie was lying or he was happy to think his team didn't need investment? I personally don't think Fergies managerial ability can be questioned as he is obviously one of the greats so that just leaves one answer.

nrico2006

Have always questioned Fergies stance on the Glaziers, especially this craic that they gave him the money that he needed or wanted.  Since 2008/2009, United have had a really weak midfield yet Ferguson never went out and spent the required big money to get the quality players in.  I doubt that he couldn't see the need for reinforcements in that area, which leaves you with the conclusion that he knew he wouldn't get the big money to splash out.  How much are 'United' technically in debt by now anyway?  It was up at £700million or more at one stage, is it now down around 300?
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

orangeman

The Glaziers were in charge of the club last year when they won the league.

The Glaziers are still in charge of the club this year and Man U have little hope of winning the league.


Same team. Different manager.

Bingo

Lawernson (I know) on Matt cooper show saying that Van Persie asked for transfer last Tuesday. Big statement to make.

rodney trotter

Quote from: Bingo on December 06, 2013, 07:06:30 PM
Lawernson (I know) on Matt cooper show saying that Van Persie asked for transfer last Tuesday. Big statement to make.

Yeah, podcast here http://t.co/TDYIJkZ6mS

EC Unique

Quote from: nrico2006 on December 06, 2013, 04:22:00 PM
Have always questioned Fergies stance on the Glaziers, especially this craic that they gave him the money that he needed or wanted.  Since 2008/2009, United have had a really weak midfield yet Ferguson never went out and spent the required big money to get the quality players in.  I doubt that he couldn't see the need for reinforcements in that area, which leaves you with the conclusion that he knew he wouldn't get the big money to splash out.  How much are 'United' technically in debt by now anyway?  It was up at £700million or more at one stage, is it now down around 300?

Utd have also had very bad luck in the CM department.  In Hargreaves and Fletcher fergie lost 2 very high standard players who would have made a serious difference.

cadhlancian

Hargreaves and Fletcher were/are at best, decent players. Hardly the driving force of a team with champions league aspirations?

The Worker

Rvp transfer request in. Maybe a move back to arsenal is on the cards?

orangeman

Quote from: The Worker on December 06, 2013, 11:28:33 PM
Rvp transfer request in. Maybe a move back to arsenal is on the cards?


Wins a medal in first season and then clears off back home again ?.


I can't see it myself.

The Worker

Quote from: orangeman on December 06, 2013, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: The Worker on December 06, 2013, 11:28:33 PM
Rvp transfer request in. Maybe a move back to arsenal is on the cards?


Wins a medal in first season and then clears off back home again ?.


I can't see it myself.

A fit rvp playing at the emirates for the 2nd part of the season would see arsenals trophy drought swiftly end.

orangeman

Quote from: The Worker on December 06, 2013, 11:53:57 PM
Quote from: orangeman on December 06, 2013, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: The Worker on December 06, 2013, 11:28:33 PM
Rvp transfer request in. Maybe a move back to arsenal is on the cards?


Wins a medal in first season and then clears off back home again ?.


I can't see it myself.

A fit rvp playing at the emirates for the 2nd part of the season would see arsenals trophy drought swiftly end.

Why is he looking to move from United ?

The Worker

Quote from: orangeman on December 07, 2013, 12:10:36 AM
Quote from: The Worker on December 06, 2013, 11:53:57 PM
Quote from: orangeman on December 06, 2013, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: The Worker on December 06, 2013, 11:28:33 PM
Rvp transfer request in. Maybe a move back to arsenal is on the cards?


Wins a medal in first season and then clears off back home again ?.


I can't see it myself.

A fit rvp playing at the emirates for the 2nd part of the season would see arsenals trophy drought swiftly end.

Why is he looking to move from United ?

Could be for a few reasons , there is media speculation that he doesn't rate moyes as a coach. There's also chat that he feels betrayed by utd as Fergie said he would be there for 3 seasons when he signed.

orangeman

Quote from: The Worker on December 07, 2013, 12:14:53 AM
Quote from: orangeman on December 07, 2013, 12:10:36 AM
Quote from: The Worker on December 06, 2013, 11:53:57 PM
Quote from: orangeman on December 06, 2013, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: The Worker on December 06, 2013, 11:28:33 PM
Rvp transfer request in. Maybe a move back to arsenal is on the cards?


Wins a medal in first season and then clears off back home again ?.


I can't see it myself.

A fit rvp playing at the emirates for the 2nd part of the season would see arsenals trophy drought swiftly end.

Why is he looking to move from United ?

Could be for a few reasons , there is media speculation that he doesn't rate moyes as a coach. There's also chat that he feels betrayed by utd as Fergie said he would be there for 3 seasons when he signed.

He should just get on with it and play away.

There's probably nothing of it in any case.

EC Unique

RVP starts up front with Hernandez. Bound to produce goals. Fingers crossed.

The Worker

Newcastle in control of the first hour. Moyes may need to make a few changes here.