Sam Maguire permutations

Started by seafoid, April 11, 2023, 09:40:18 PM

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Rossfan

Ah we just didn't look that hot Sunday so maybe on the slide while Cork seem on the rise.
Hopefully the possible end of the road might galvanise them for one mighty effort.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

orchardarmy02

Quote from: imtommygunn on June 20, 2023, 04:29:41 PM
Why's it unlikely?

Standard pessimism after a loss, I felt the same going into Galway game but ye just never know

Eire90

group winners should get home advantage in quarters  gives a a more incentive to win group as well as getting the bye to quarter finals and means the teams thar finish 3fd have to go on the road twice which should be punishment for coming 3rd

statto

Quote from: Eire90 on June 21, 2023, 10:37:20 AM
group winners should get home advantage in quarters  gives a a more incentive to win group as well as getting the bye to quarter finals and means the teams thar finish 3fd have to go on the road twice which should be punishment for coming 3rd
In theory yes, but the gaa know they should get decent crowds for these quarter finals id imagine 40k plus.  In saying that you should get good value if you went for a double header.  Armagh/Dublin will probably be on different days as they would generally draw the biggest support. 

Blowitupref

The draw for the Quarter-Finals of the Sam Maguire Cup will take place next Monday morning on RTÉ Radio 1 as part of Morning Ireland after the news at 8.30am


Bowl One

Kerry
Dublin
Armagh
Derry

Bowl Two

Cork/Roscommon
Kildare/Monaghan
Donegal/Tyrone
Galway/Mayo

From GAA.ie Fixtures that can’t happen:

Kerry v Cork, Kerry v Mayo
Dublin v Kildare, Dublin v Roscommon
Armagh v Galway, Armagh v Tyrone
Derry v Donegal, Derry v Monaghan

Match arrangements will be finalised by the CCCC later that day and the games will take place at Croke Park over the weekend of July 1st/2nd.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Main Street

Quote from: Blowitupref on June 23, 2023, 06:01:39 PM
The draw for the Quarter-Finals of the Sam Maguire Cup will take place next Monday morning on RTÉ Radio 1 as part of Morning Ireland after the news at 8.30am


Bowl One

Kerry
Dublin
Armagh
Derry

Bowl Two

Cork/Roscommon
Kildare/Monaghan
Donegal/Tyrone
Galway/Mayo

From GAA.ie Fixtures that can't happen:

Kerry v Cork, Kerry v Mayo
Dublin v Kildare, Dublin v Roscommon
Armagh v Galway, Armagh v Tyrone
Derry v Donegal, Derry v Monaghan

Match arrangements will be finalised by the CCCC later that day and the games will take place at Croke Park over the weekend of July 1st/2nd.

It's not a draw per se but selected pairings

is there any other possibility other than

Kerry v Mon
Dub v Gal/Mayo
Armagh v Cork
Derry v Tyrone

armaghniac

Quote from: Main Street on June 24, 2023, 11:42:28 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 23, 2023, 06:01:39 PM
The draw for the Quarter-Finals of the Sam Maguire Cup will take place next Monday morning on RTÉ Radio 1 as part of Morning Ireland after the news at 8.30am


Bowl One

Kerry
Dublin
Armagh
Derry

Bowl Two

Cork/Roscommon
Kildare/Monaghan
Donegal/Tyrone
Galway/Mayo

From GAA.ie Fixtures that can't happen:

Kerry v Cork, Kerry v Mayo
Dublin v Kildare, Dublin v Roscommon
Armagh v Galway, Armagh v Tyrone
Derry v Donegal, Derry v Monaghan

Match arrangements will be finalised by the CCCC later that day and the games will take place at Croke Park over the weekend of July 1st/2nd.

It's not a draw per se but selected pairings

is there any other possibility other than

Kerry v Mon
Dub v Gal/Mayo
Armagh v Cork
Derry v Tyrone

When you know which of Galway or Mayo is there then there are possibilities.
Kerry v Galway
Dublin v Cork
Armagh v Monaghan
Derry v Tyrone
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Rossfan

Quote from: Rossfan on June 20, 2023, 04:52:36 PM
Ah we just didn't look that hot Sunday so maybe on the slide while Cork seem on the rise.

Sadly I was right.
Depressing oul day.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Main Street

Quote from: armaghniac on June 25, 2023, 12:04:10 AM
Quote from: Main Street on June 24, 2023, 11:42:28 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 23, 2023, 06:01:39 PM
The draw for the Quarter-Finals of the Sam Maguire Cup will take place next Monday morning on RTÉ Radio 1 as part of Morning Ireland after the news at 8.30am


Bowl One

Kerry
Dublin
Armagh
Derry

Bowl Two

Cork/Roscommon
Kildare/Monaghan
Donegal/Tyrone
Galway/Mayo

From GAA.ie Fixtures that can't happen:

Kerry v Cork, Kerry v Mayo
Dublin v Kildare, Dublin v Roscommon
Armagh v Galway, Armagh v Tyrone
Derry v Donegal, Derry v Monaghan

Match arrangements will be finalised by the CCCC later that day and the games will take place at Croke Park over the weekend of July 1st/2nd.

It's not a draw per se but selected pairings

is there any other possibility other than

Kerry v Mon
Dub v Gal/Mayo
Armagh v Cork
Derry v Tyrone

When you know which of Galway or Mayo is there then there are possibilities.
Kerry v Galway
Dublin v Cork
Armagh v Monaghan
Derry v Tyrone
So  can Derry v Tyrone be avoided?

quit yo jibbajabba

Yes. 33% chance of it happening i believe. If it happens trone win. Derry man speaking..

Wildweasel74

Rematches can happen if they are the last teams in the bowl, Armagh could play Tyrone if all the other teams are out before them.

An Watcher

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 25, 2023, 01:19:18 AM
Rematches can happen if they are the last teams in the bowl, Armagh could play Tyrone if all the other teams are out before them.

I would have thought that if they're the last two left then the balls drawn immediately before them will be redrawn in such a way as to not leave tyrone/armagh?  See that in various draws

Wildweasel74

It's only rematches are avoided were possible, if they were the last line of the draw, the draw can't be redone

Jell 0 Biafra

Why don't they just nominate one of the two teams as first out of the hat, and draw their opponent from the 6 teams they can face, and go from there?

bennydorano

Could be talking out my arse but I think if Galway win today I think Armagh will be drawn first as we can only meet Cork/Mon. Similarly if Mayo win today Kerry will be drawn first as they'll only have 2 options and the others still have 3 options. The second draw on a similar principle or random draw from the initially qualified Quarter finalists - if all options are equal.  Haven't read this anywhere was just thinking it would be logical.