East wall #Irelandisfull

[Upandover]

Im by no means facist or right wing, but when homeless people born here are dying amd receiving very little support it can be infuriating seeing people welcomed and placed in hotels.

It surely isnt their fault that they are fleeing wars etc and the anger or discussion needs to be directed at governments, not that it will change much, but the people here deserve to be treated better and have more support.

I do assume that big business is making plenty of money housing immigrants in hotels, no empty rooms and government paying out plenty, no profit to be had in housing the native homeless people.

[Gmac]

Im by no means facist or right wing, but when homeless people born here are dying amd receiving very little support it can be infuriating seeing people welcomed and placed in hotels.

It surely isnt their fault that they are fleeing wars etc and the anger or discussion needs to be directed at governments, not that it will change much, but the people here deserve to be treated better and have more support.

I do assume that big business is making plenty of money housing immigrants in hotels, no empty rooms and government paying out plenty, no profit to be had in housing the native homeless people.

good point, is there a government agency trying to deal with the homeless problem ?

[Milltown Row2]

If locals are homeless it's a problem long before they become homeless, it's terrible how their home life  has put them in a position that they'd rather be homeless than seek or stay in accommodation that's actually available but refuse it

Mental health issues need to be looked at, that's another government failing, nothing to do with immigration

[lenny]

Im by no means facist or right wing, but when homeless people born here are dying amd receiving very little support it can be infuriating seeing people welcomed and placed in hotels.

It surely isnt their fault that they are fleeing wars etc and the anger or discussion needs to be directed at governments, not that it will change much, but the people here deserve to be treated better and have more support.

I do assume that big business is making plenty of money housing immigrants in hotels, no empty rooms and government paying out plenty, no profit to be had in housing the native homeless people.

The vast majority of the fascist, right wingers is that they don't give a sh1te about the homeless, they just hate foreigners. There's a lot of people making noise now, spouting populist, opportunistic nonsense when they never said a word about the homeless before now.

[Rossfan]

Spot on lenny.

[whitey]

Im by no means facist or right wing, but when homeless people born here are dying amd receiving very little support it can be infuriating seeing people welcomed and placed in hotels.

It surely isnt their fault that they are fleeing wars etc and the anger or discussion needs to be directed at governments, not that it will change much, but the people here deserve to be treated better and have more support.

I do assume that big business is making plenty of money housing immigrants in hotels, no empty rooms and government paying out plenty, no profit to be had in housing the native homeless people.

The vast majority of the fascist, right wingers is that they don't give a sh1te about the homeless, they just hate foreigners. There's a lot of people making noise now, spouting populist, opportunistic nonsense when they never said a word about the homeless before now.

Planning laws can be ignored to accomadate refugees but not ignored to accomadate the Irish homeless-big difference

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/housing-planning/2022/11/17/no-planning-permission-needed-for-two-years-on-converting-buildings-to-house-ukrainian-refugees/

[Itchy]

Im by no means facist or right wing, but when homeless people born here are dying amd receiving very little support it can be infuriating seeing people welcomed and placed in hotels.

It surely isnt their fault that they are fleeing wars etc and the anger or discussion needs to be directed at governments, not that it will change much, but the people here deserve to be treated better and have more support.

I do assume that big business is making plenty of money housing immigrants in hotels, no empty rooms and government paying out plenty, no profit to be had in housing the native homeless people.

The vast majority of the fascist, right wingers is that they don't give a sh1te about the homeless, they just hate foreigners. There's a lot of people making noise now, spouting populist, opportunistic nonsense when they never said a word about the homeless before now.

Planning laws can be ignored to accomadate refugees but not ignored to accomadate the Irish homeless-big difference

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/housing-planning/2022/11/17/no-planning-permission-needed-for-two-years-on-converting-buildings-to-house-ukrainian-refugees/

European Law

Also refer to Lenny above, he talking about you

[whitey]

Im by no means facist or right wing, but when homeless people born here are dying amd receiving very little support it can be infuriating seeing people welcomed and placed in hotels.

It surely isnt their fault that they are fleeing wars etc and the anger or discussion needs to be directed at governments, not that it will change much, but the people here deserve to be treated better and have more support.

I do assume that big business is making plenty of money housing immigrants in hotels, no empty rooms and government paying out plenty, no profit to be had in housing the native homeless people.

The vast majority of the fascist, right wingers is that they don't give a sh1te about the homeless, they just hate foreigners. There's a lot of people making noise now, spouting populist, opportunistic nonsense when they never said a word about the homeless before now.

Planning laws can be ignored to accomadate refugees but not ignored to accomadate the Irish homeless-big difference

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/housing-planning/2022/11/17/no-planning-permission-needed-for-two-years-on-converting-buildings-to-house-ukrainian-refugees/

European Law

Also refer to Lenny above, he talking about you

Water off a ducks back

If you're not for open borders, you're a fascist according to most on here

[whitey]

Im by no means facist or right wing, but when homeless people born here are dying amd receiving very little support it can be infuriating seeing people welcomed and placed in hotels.

It surely isnt their fault that they are fleeing wars etc and the anger or discussion needs to be directed at governments, not that it will change much, but the people here deserve to be treated better and have more support.

I do assume that big business is making plenty of money housing immigrants in hotels, no empty rooms and government paying out plenty, no profit to be had in housing the native homeless people.

The vast majority of the fascist, right wingers is that they don't give a sh1te about the homeless, they just hate foreigners. There's a lot of people making noise now, spouting populist, opportunistic nonsense when they never said a word about the homeless before now.

Planning laws can be ignored to accomadate refugees but not ignored to accomadate the Irish homeless-big difference

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/housing-planning/2022/11/17/no-planning-permission-needed-for-two-years-on-converting-buildings-to-house-ukrainian-refugees/

European Law

Also refer to Lenny above, he talking about you

Post a link to where it shows that's European Law

IT article implies different

[Itchy]

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/c6264-european-union-planning-and-development-displaced-persons-from-ukraine-temporary-protection-regulations-2022/

[Upandover]

If locals are homeless it's a problem long before they become homeless, it's terrible how their home life  has put them in a position that they'd rather be homeless than seek or stay in accommodation that's actually available but refuse it

Mental health issues need to be looked at, that's another government failing, nothing to do with immigration

I like to think im clued up on homeless issues having worked in a well known hostel in belfast for 12 years.

You are correct in saying mental health is a huge issue, there is a whole myriad of issues at play and usually it is a long drawn out process that leads to a person becoming homeless, issues at home, poverty, drug ir substance abuse, mental health, issues with family etc, in the current climate these issues will present more and more due to the cost of living, the money isnt being invested either to tackle these issues but the government is finding money to pay for hotel rooms, someone is making money in all of this.

[whitey]

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/c6264-european-union-planning-and-development-displaced-persons-from-ukraine-temporary-protection-regulations-2022/

Thanks

That's specific to Ukrainians fleeing the conflict

What about those seeking asylum or international protection?

Are they covered by the same or different laws?

[Itchy]

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/c6264-european-union-planning-and-development-displaced-persons-from-ukraine-temporary-protection-regulations-2022/

Thanks

That's specific to Ukrainians fleeing the conflict

What about those seeking asylum or international protection?

Are they covered by the same or different laws?

Well the other nationalities seeking refugee status are dwarfed hugely by the Ukraine numbers so I'm curious as to why that is bothering you. Is it their skin colour you've the issue with? I suggest you do the research yourself, the laws are all online.

[Rossfan]

A poster spouting for pages about immigration and asylum/refugees etc then asks what are the laws about this?
You cam see how millions voted for Trump alright🙄

[whitey]

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/c6264-european-union-planning-and-development-displaced-persons-from-ukraine-temporary-protection-regulations-2022/

Thanks

That's specific to Ukrainians fleeing the conflict

What about those seeking asylum or international protection?

Are they covered by the same or different laws?

Well the other nationalities seeking refugee status are dwarfed hugely by the Ukraine numbers so I'm curious as to why that is bothering you. Is it their skin colour you've the issue with? I suggest you do the research yourself, the laws are all online.

Who said it's bothering me

Did the govt pull a bait and switch and use the cover of that law to house people the law didn't  apply to?

It a completely relevant and appropriate question to ask?

What if you owned a house next to one of these centers (housing male asylum seekers) and the value plummeted or you couldn't sell as a result