Tipp-Limerick

Started by thejuice, June 10, 2007, 03:37:27 PM

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Redgreenery

Limerick and Tipp game over and LIMERICK prevail!!!!!!
Full time score + ET:
Limerick 0-22 Tipp 2-13.

What a game no one deserved to lose but someone wouls eventually and it was Tipp, hard luck lads and congrats to Tipp!
Brilliant 3 games!!

corn02

Not as good as first two but excellent all the same, the Hurling Championship is getting some games this year.

Lecale2

Good match although the standard probably wasn't as good as the last 2 matches. Great to see Limerick win,

imtommygunn

As much as I wanted to see Limerick win I would have said the ref. was harsh on Tipp in the last few minutes when it was a one point game. They should have had a free to level her and instead Limerick went up and made it a two point game.

Still these things likely balanced themselves out over the course of the 3 games.

Good to see that munster final pairing.

Great series of games - maybe standard not as goo as Cork etc. but good to see saga's like this. Brings out the best in teams.

theskull1

The desire and heart shown made up for any shortfall in standards. A brilliant series of matches that has really done hurling a great service. Was with limerick the whole way. I think they needed it more than tipp

Was watching the match with a few friends and countless times it was commented that antrim refereeing wouldn't allow a huge amount of challenges that went in today. Made for a great contest with very few dirty strokes if any throughout the game
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

stnessan

I don't think either team can have complaints about the ref, some decisions went Tipp's way and some went Limerick's. I would like to hear a little more about the ref's view of Damien Reale getting clotheslined though, the word is that he is recovering though and should be OK for Munster Final.

It might be parachioal to view it like this, but this was an important win for Limerick; not only because it has been so long since we've had a championship win but because we've not had a "team" out there for so long.

;D

johnneycool

Quote from: theskull1 on June 24, 2007, 11:43:38 PM
The desire and heart shown made up for any shortfall in standards. A brilliant series of matches that has really done hurling a great service. Was with limerick the whole way. I think they needed it more than tipp

Was watching the match with a few friends and countless times it was commented that antrim refereeing wouldn't allow a huge amount of challenges that went in today. Made for a great contest with very few dirty strokes if any throughout the game

Good competitive hurling if lacking a bit in the quality of the Cork/Waterford game, thoroughly entertaining all the way. The problem now for Limerick is that the bandwagon is now on the roll and expectations now for bigger and better things. Can they go up another gear or two or has the three games plus extra time taken some energy from the legs. In saying that players like Pete Lawlor and Kevin Tobin have fairly improved as the series went on. Lawlor is a good hurler but was caught short for stickwork the first two games but he was well involved yesterday in his more accustomed half back position. The two man fullforward line certainly worked in the first half when Limerick started putting over the long range points. Big Begly isn't a man to play in there if that's the case. He needs lads playing off him to be at his best and when he did get the ball, was isolated and couldn't get the stroke in.

Two of the big three are now doing a tour of Ireland in the qualifiers with a crack at each other probably to see who finishes top of the group.
With what seems a bit of infighting in the camp, Babs will be under serious pressure to get them turned around and maybe eat some humble pie with Cummins back in goal even though the young lad, Gerry Kennedy didn't put a foot wrong although his habit of allowing the ball to drop into his gut may afford forwards a bit more of an opportunity to get a flick on the ball before it gets that far.
The Tipp backs are as cute at the tugging as I've seen. A little pull enough to hinder the run but not enought for a ref to blow. They got away with it at least half a dozen times yesterday. I suppose it's only a foul if you're caught.
Tipp should make the quarter finals but they seem to be lacking leaders up the field when the chips are down.

the ship

i did not see any of this tugging as you call it by the tipp backs and the goalkeepers habit t beats what cummins does making great saves and knocking the ball back out to the incoming forwards to stick in the back of the net. while you talk about the great spirit that limerick had and the the leaders they had you forget with all this spirit and leadership tipp still were winning at half time of extra time and if mcmahon was half right he would have given a free in to lar corbett and we would be looking at another replay.
as to the 2 man fullforward line working were tipp not ahead at half time.

INDIANA

tipp's physical conditioning is a disgrace. they look like they do their training in supermacs. Too many overweight players. mind you looking at the size of babs and leahy it hardly sets an example. I have never seen such an unfit bunch at that level - 5 times more skill than limerick but that ain't enough anymore. it's become more of a question of who ate all the pies.

magickingdom

no word from babs, i'd say hes still stuck to the ceiling. in fairness to him i thought the ref was poor limericks 14, 16 and most importantly 21st point all came after incidents which should have been tipp frees. by the way how exactly do you fit another 20,000 into the gaelic grounds? 30k was the 'official' crowd - what a joke. i remember going into the munster football final last year with 5 kids in tow and asked the guy at the gate for a group rate $40 for the lot! great for me but no way can the gaa keep this kind of system up...

the ship

indiana could you point out which of the tipp players are overweight, if anything i would have thought they need tp put on a few lbs

johnneycool

Quote from: the ship on June 25, 2007, 01:15:38 PM
indiana could you point out which of the tipp players are overweight, if anything i would have thought they need tp put on a few lbs

Tipp were 7-1 down before they decided to counteract the numerical advantage Limerick had in the middle of the park. It was only then that they started to get back into the game. The Tipp goal was fortuitous and whilst ref bashing is the order of the day, McMahon could and should of blown for a foul on Mark Foley just before the ball was cleared out to Hugh Moloney whose shot dropped short into the hands of Darragh Egan. Egan himself should of got a yellow at least for his clothes line on Damien Reale earlier in the game. For Marty Morrisey and Duignan to dismiss it as accidental was utter bollocks. The ref let a lot go but he was equally as bad for both teams.

Tipp are indeed the better hurling team and were ahead at certain junctures in the game but it's only the one at the end that really matters, so if you are the better team and still get beat you got to ask the question, why? My feeling is that they lack leaders up the park to lead by example when the chips are down is the problem. Relying on Eoin Kelly all the time isn't going to work. Too many downhill peddlers in the Tipp forwards I'm afraid.

the ship

i would have to agree with you that the ref made some awful decision on both sides but why all this down on tipp all the time those boys gave as much as limerick did and with the final whistle of extra time just around the corner were just a point down. god you would think listening and reading all the comments that tipp brought nothing to the 3 games.

a quote from the first world regarding the generals and the ordinary sioldiers and i think it applies to tipp and is quite apt for babs "lions lead by donkeys"

 

INDIANA

It's a general thing the fitness thing- they let two leads slip prior to yesterday. Only two jammy goals yesterday kept them in it. Yet in terms of hurling craft on an overall basis they are a better team than limerick. I don't believe either wing forward is fit enough. Both good hurlers yes but they don't last 70. Eoin Kelly certainly was carrying  a bit- grnated he's  a brilliant hurler but hickey had him for pace. I've never seen a team that relies on one player so much.
Limercik had a lot of the tipp players for pace .Yes they horsed tipp out of it in the tight- but they outlasted tipp in all of the games. that isn't  a coincidence. Danny o hanlon at 19 is carrying too much for this level..there isn't any limerick player carrying any excess.
I've seen some fantastic club games in tipp down through the years- there is something seriously wrong at county level. I don't believe that management is the answer. Tipp fans should remember their proud tradition and ask themselves-how likely is it that limerick will win the all-ireland?that's how far tipp have fallen.

Onlooker

I saw Tipperary quoted at 16/1 to win the All Ireland in a local bookmaker's office to-day.   Has there ever been a time in the whole history of the G.A.A., where such a price would offered on Tipp.   It suggests that Tipperary's Senior Hurling Team are at an all time low.  One can only wonder what has gone wrong here in Tipp over the last 5 or 6 years, or indeed over the last 35 years (just 3 All Ireland titles).  No one seems to have the answer.