Derry v Galway AISF Sat 9th July 5.30pm Croke Park

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armaghniac

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 09, 2022, 07:29:33 PM
Galway have a more than 50% chance in the AIF I'd say: don't panic about losing the early exchanges (however ugly), persevere and believe in their own strengths, and exploit those strengths increasingly as the game progresses, with the players who can carry it through.

Both Derry and Armagh could have had several more points in that "early period". A better team might get those points.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: armaghniac on July 09, 2022, 07:33:12 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 09, 2022, 07:29:33 PM
Galway have a more than 50% chance in the AIF I'd say: don't panic about losing the early exchanges (however ugly), persevere and believe in their own strengths, and exploit those strengths increasingly as the game progresses, with the players who can carry it through.

Both Derry and Armagh could have had several more points in that "early period". A better team might get those points.

True, but I remain to be convinced that either of these remaining Dublin or Kerry teams can actually fill that brief.
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

seafoid

Quote from: Ed Ricketts on July 09, 2022, 07:16:25 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 09, 2022, 07:11:53 PM
Quote from: Ed Ricketts on July 09, 2022, 07:09:34 PM
A bit embarrassing for Derry in the end. No plan B, no initiative when behind. Just the same turgid stuff on repeat til the end.

Took 20 mins to settle, but from that point Galway were very controlled. That's two good results in their last two games against two very different opponents. They'll be a handful in the final.

Yes we are embarrassed to get to our first AISF in almost 20 years 🤦🏼‍♂️

And when you got there you didn't throw a punch.

Wasted opportunity. How long will Derry have to wait to get another?
Derry are 8th on the list of Anglo Celt titles in Ulster afaik. This year's Ulster title inspired kids across the county. Tactics can always be changed.
Ulster is going through a period of change with Donegal and Monaghan fading. Tyrone have a 24 month cycle.  Armagh are emerging. Derry could win more Ulsters.
As long as they learn from today.

Rossfan

Apart from the 1st 15 minutes that was a 5 point hammering.
Galway "won" from 20th to 70th minute by 2-8 to 0-3.
Derry seemed to have 2 tactics...pack the defence and try and get through for goals at the other end.
First worked up to a point  -Comer- but the Galway defence snuffed all their goal attempts.
They had no plan B, just stick to the system.

Very galling to see them herrins in the Final....but unfortunately we never got out of League mode.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

snoopdog

As poor a semi final performance as I've seen.  Keeper offered nothing going fwd. Should've stayed on his line.  Derry looked like Down today when they went forward. Afraid to shoot. Good year but today will knW away at them for sometime. Derry are better than that.

Cunny Funt

I said before the game how much Rory Gallagher has learnt from his last two games against Galway will be a likely decider. 8-28 conceded in those games the answer was very little as his team was well beaten again and in most part due to turn overs from the high intensity and aggression that Galway brought into the game and Derry unable to match it.

Some weekend for Galway footballers, seniors into their first All Ireland final since 2001 (they looked a mile off that after the 2019 campaign) and yesterday won the Minor All Ireland title for the first time since 2007. 

seafoid

Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 09, 2022, 07:11:14 PM
Derry supporters of a certain age must hate the sight of Galway. Rory Gallagher showed today he's no Jim McGuinness.
McGuinness didn't win the All Ireland on his first attempt

Captain Obvious

Quote from: seafoid on July 09, 2022, 07:52:24 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 09, 2022, 07:11:14 PM
Derry supporters of a certain age must hate the sight of Galway. Rory Gallagher showed today he's no Jim McGuinness.
McGuinness didn't win the All Ireland on his first attempt
This isn't Rory first attempt. Ask Donegal supporters what they made of Gallaghers time as manager of them.

seafoid

Quote from: Rossfan on July 09, 2022, 07:37:54 PM
Apart from the 1st 15 minutes that was a 5 point hammering.
Galway "won" from 20th to 70th minute by 2-8 to 0-3.
Derry seemed to have 2 tactics...pack the defence and try and get through for goals at the other end.
First worked up to a point  -Comer- but the Galway defence snuffed all their goal attempts.
They had no plan B, just stick to the system.

Very galling to see them herrins in the Final....but unfortunately we never got out of League mode.
Ros could have beaten Derry today.

screenexile

Quote from: seafoid on July 09, 2022, 08:10:25 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 09, 2022, 07:37:54 PM
Apart from the 1st 15 minutes that was a 5 point hammering.
Galway "won" from 20th to 70th minute by 2-8 to 0-3.
Derry seemed to have 2 tactics...pack the defence and try and get through for goals at the other end.
First worked up to a point  -Comer- but the Galway defence snuffed all their goal attempts.
They had no plan B, just stick to the system.

Very galling to see them herrins in the Final....but unfortunately we never got out of League mode.
Ros could have beaten Derry today.

Kilkenny could have beaten Derry today...

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: screenexile on July 09, 2022, 08:15:17 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 09, 2022, 08:10:25 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 09, 2022, 07:37:54 PM
Apart from the 1st 15 minutes that was a 5 point hammering.
Galway "won" from 20th to 70th minute by 2-8 to 0-3.
Derry seemed to have 2 tactics...pack the defence and try and get through for goals at the other end.
First worked up to a point  -Comer- but the Galway defence snuffed all their goal attempts.
They had no plan B, just stick to the system.

Very galling to see them herrins in the Final....but unfortunately we never got out of League mode.
Ros could have beaten Derry today.

Kilkenny could have beaten Derry today...

A feckin' disgrace as Ulster Champions!  :P ;)
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

armaghniac

Quote from: snoopdog on July 09, 2022, 07:49:02 PM
As poor a semi final performance as I've seen.  Keeper offered nothing going fwd. Should've stayed on his line.  Derry looked like Down today when they went forward. Afraid to shoot. Good year but today will knW away at them for sometime. Derry are better than that.

Ah now, don't be comparing them with Down. You have to keep some sense of comparability.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

mrdeeds


tyrone08

Don't want to hear anymore talk of Rory being some sort of genius manager. Took a game plan which failed 11 years ago and tried to do it again. Christ even mcguinness has had the sense to stay away knowing that limited safety first approach doesn't work anymore.

Ironically if Derry had of attacked the first half they could have been out of sight.

There is a reason he failed at 3 different teams.

screenexile

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 09, 2022, 08:19:30 PM
The hard part of a defeat after sticking to the system is when it's all over and you know you didn't even try to win.

Yeah but then you have to consider all the teams on the Derybside of the draw having a pop who had a chance and couldn't beat us or the teams we beat.

At the end of the day we got down to the last 4 teams in the country having been literally NOWHERE...

I have no doubt the system will evolve as will the players.

Doire abu!