Joint Papal / Queen visit in Northern Ireland in 2018

[mrdeeds]

Monday is 25 December. That is Christmas Day. It also happens to be Jesus' birthday. It is all written in The Holy Bible. That is the document recording the actual words of the deity. Absolutely billions of people read it. Therefore God exists.

The conception the 8th and birth 25th. Miracle. I always thought it was because of the Pagan Winter Solstice worship? Most Christian festival are just bastardised versions of pre existing ones.

Your misunderstandings aren't helping things.

I forgot sex is a sin so Mary couldn't be the product of it. It's funny that shepards were supposedly caring for their flock in Winter. It's almost if December was chosen so existing Pagan beliefs could be exploited. Religion hasn't changed much.

[dec]

In the Bible story of the birth of Jesus there the whole story about the census thing which never happened in them days. A nonsense story book. Work of fiction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census_of_Quirinius

[mrdeeds]

In the Bible story of the birth of Jesus there the whole story about the census thing which never happened in them days. A nonsense story book. Work of fiction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census_of_Quirinius

So the mistake is the mention of Herod?

[playwiththewind1st]

Don't mention Herod ffs. He's a nutter.

[Rossfan]

Monday is 25 December. That is Christmas Day. It also happens to be Jesus' birthday. It is all written in The Holy Bible. That is the document recording the actual words of the deity. Absolutely billions of people read it. Therefore God exists.

The conception the 8th and birth 25th. Miracle. I always thought it was because of the Pagan Winter Solstice worship? Most Christian festival are just bastardised versions of pre existing ones.

Your misunderstandings aren't helping things.

I forgot sex is a sin so Mary couldn't be the product of it.

Immaculate Conception is that Mary was conceived without Original Sin.

You don't seem too well up on this subject

[mrdeeds]

Monday is 25 December. That is Christmas Day. It also happens to be Jesus' birthday. It is all written in The Holy Bible. That is the document recording the actual words of the deity. Absolutely billions of people read it. Therefore God exists.

The conception the 8th and birth 25th. Miracle. I always thought it was because of the Pagan Winter Solstice worship? Most Christian festival are just bastardised versions of pre existing ones.

Your misunderstandings aren't helping things.

I forgot sex is a sin so Mary couldn't be the product of it.

Immaculate Conception is that Mary was conceived without Original Sin.

You don't seem too well up on this subject

If scientology came up with these stories you'd say they're crazy.

[T Fearon]

We all know Christmas is used to commemorate the birth of Jesus,that's the important bit,not the precise time and date.

But do you discount Jesus' death and resurrection? If this happened it is irrefutable proof of God's existence.

[playwiththewind1st]

"If this happened"? Wavering a bit, are we?

At Christmas time too? Tut tut.

Think the papal visit is badly needed, to bolster the ould faith.

[seafoid]

We all know Christmas is used to commemorate the birth of Jesus,that's the important bit,not the precise time and date.

But do you discount Jesus' death and resurrection? If this happened it is irrefutable proof of God's existence.

Your equivalent in Shillong says that Shiva is God.
How would you determine who is right?

And what about the Cailleach?

[T Fearon]

If the crucifixtion and resurrection is a fairy tale the myth has endured for a long time.If it is not then it is irrefutable proof of God's existence.Simple as that.

[playwiththewind1st]

Did you mean "Crucifixion"??

If you're going to pontificate, you would have thought you would at least know how to get the spelling correct of the central tenet of the belief system that you're spouting about.

Ooooops, back to catechism classes.

[T Fearon]

During my state visit to Dublin on Tuesday I was also greatly encouraged to see the large outdoor crib on display at Dundrum Shopping Centre.A welcome reminder to the thousands entering and exiting of the real meaning of Christmas.

[Rossfan]

......as they trample over each other rushing in to worship at a Cathedral of Secular Consumerism......

[seafoid]

Proper religion. The Cailleach would approve.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/22/new-zealand-gives-mount-taranaki-same-legal-rights-as-a-person

"Mount Taranaki in New Zealand is to be granted the same legal rights as a person, becoming the third geographic feature in the country to be granted a "legal personality".

Eight local Māori tribes and the government will share guardianship of the sacred mountain on the west coast of the North Island, in a long-awaited acknowledgement of the indigenous people's relationship to the mountain, who view it as an ancestor and whanau, or family member.

New Zealand river granted same legal rights as human being

The new status of the mountain means if someone abuses or harms it, it is the same legally as harming the tribe.

In the record of understanding signed this week, Mount Taranaki will become "a legal personality, in its own right", said the minister for treaty negotiations, Andrew Little, gaining similar rights to the Whanganui river, which was granted legal personhood earlier this year."

Christianity is backward when it comes to environmental issues. Too much energy is wasted policing sex as well   

[T Fearon]

Great to see Leo Varadker has officially confirmed that Ireland will be at Pope Francis' disposal next year!👍👍