Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[Derry Optimist]

Which four would you replace Braveheart?!

[BackInTheGame]

Concannon has to start on form, surely? In fact Sean Quinn would be unlucky to be dropped too.  Might mean putting Karl in the half backs and trying Chrissy in midfield again. But I know damn all tbf

Oh aye, Odhran Lynch should start too.

[howlongref]

Concannon has to start on form, surely? In fact Sean Quinn would be unlucky to be dropped too.  Might mean putting Karl in the half backs and trying Chrissy in midfield again. But I know damn all tbf

Oh aye, Odhran Lynch should start too.

I was at the game and would agree concannon has serious potential, not so sure about Chrissy in midfield....He was poor. Bar one wayward kick out posties restarts were good...Derry missed the boat against a weakened Tyrone team imho

[southtyronegael]

lads is mark harte still over ballinderry this year?

[screenexile]

lads is mark harte still over ballinderry this year?

Don't think so. Did Fabian Muldoon get it??

[theticklemister]

lads is mark harte still over ballinderry this year?

Don't think so. Did Fabian Muldoon get it??

Ross Carr

[Sheugh Water]

Concannon has to start on form, surely? In fact Sean Quinn would be unlucky to be dropped too.  Might mean putting Karl in the half backs and trying Chrissy in midfield again. But I know damn all tbf

Oh aye, Odhran Lynch should start too.

Hardly he's from the city sure

[tbrick18]

After Derry's much improved displays this season there should be some very healthy competition for places for the opening league match against Antrim.It is important, however, for management to always put out a very strong side in each of the league games as we can not afford any slip ups. I would expect that the u20 players would not be considered for the League  games except in an emergency situation.Assuming that Brendan Rogers,Paul McNeill and Ryan Bell will not be fully fit, I would suggest the following team to be picked against the Glensmen.
                                                 B McKinless
N Keenan                                  C Mulholland                        K McKaigue
M McEvoy                                   C McKaigue                          E McGill
                                  C McAtamney            C McFaul
P Coney                                     C Bradley                            P Cassidy
E Lynn                                        E Bradley                            S McGuigan
Subs
T Mallon
E Concannon
S Quinn
R Dougan
G McKinless
J Rocks
D Hughes
T O'Brien
J Doherty
N Toner

A much better effort than usual Optimist. But still at least 4 wrong.

Chrissy McKaigue, IMO, can only effectively play at full back for county. He doesn't have enough going forward and all too often plays the ball back after running 30yards, which slows the whole attack down even if it does retain possession.
Of that team, I'd drop mulhullan, put Chrissy in full back and bring mckinless into CHB.
We need to be tough to beat first a foremost. With the exception of Rodgers that would be our strongest available defence IMO.
Wouldn't have any complaints about the rest of the selection.

[BackInTheGame]

After Derry's much improved displays this season there should be some very healthy competition for places for the opening league match against Antrim.It is important, however, for management to always put out a very strong side in each of the league games as we can not afford any slip ups. I would expect that the u20 players would not be considered for the League  games except in an emergency situation.Assuming that Brendan Rogers,Paul McNeill and Ryan Bell will not be fully fit, I would suggest the following team to be picked against the Glensmen.
                                                 B McKinless
N Keenan                                  C Mulholland                        K McKaigue
M McEvoy                                   C McKaigue                          E McGill
                                  C McAtamney            C McFaul
P Coney                                     C Bradley                            P Cassidy
E Lynn                                        E Bradley                            S McGuigan
Subs
T Mallon
E Concannon
S Quinn
R Dougan
G McKinless
J Rocks
D Hughes
T O'Brien
J Doherty
N Toner

A much better effort than usual Optimist. But still at least 4 wrong.

Chrissy McKaigue, IMO, can only effectively play at full back for county. He doesn't have enough going forward and all too often plays the ball back after running 30yards, which slows the whole attack down even if it does retain possession.
Of that team, I'd drop mulhullan, put Chrissy in full back and bring mckinless into CHB.
We need to be tough to beat first a foremost. With the exception of Rodgers that would be our strongest available defence IMO.
Wouldn't have any complaints about the rest of the selection.

I never want to see Chrissy at full back after last year's qualifier against Kildare. I can't remember if it was him or Johnston who was wearing no. 3 but between the pair of them they looked like under 14s trying to mark the big fella whose name escapes me.  It's not his game.

I think he's got plenty in his game to play 6. Or 5/7.  I completely agree that he slows it down too often but that's not a lack of ability, that's just him doing what he's been trained to do for his club for the last few years. We just need to train it out of him. He's a good ball carrier, a decent passer when he tries it, and has kicked many a good score from distance. Rogers/Mulholland full backs for me, every day.

[toby47]

After Derry's much improved displays this season there should be some very healthy competition for places for the opening league match against Antrim.It is important, however, for management to always put out a very strong side in each of the league games as we can not afford any slip ups. I would expect that the u20 players would not be considered for the League  games except in an emergency situation.Assuming that Brendan Rogers,Paul McNeill and Ryan Bell will not be fully fit, I would suggest the following team to be picked against the Glensmen.
                                                 B McKinless
N Keenan                                  C Mulholland                        K McKaigue
M McEvoy                                   C McKaigue                          E McGill
                                  C McAtamney            C McFaul
P Coney                                     C Bradley                            P Cassidy
E Lynn                                        E Bradley                            S McGuigan
Subs
T Mallon
E Concannon
S Quinn
R Dougan
G McKinless
J Rocks
D Hughes
T O'Brien
J Doherty
N Toner

A much better effort than usual Optimist. But still at least 4 wrong.

Chrissy McKaigue, IMO, can only effectively play at full back for county. He doesn't have enough going forward and all too often plays the ball back after running 30yards, which slows the whole attack down even if it does retain possession.
Of that team, I'd drop mulhullan, put Chrissy in full back and bring mckinless into CHB.
We need to be tough to beat first a foremost. With the exception of Rodgers that would be our strongest available defence IMO.
Wouldn't have any complaints about the rest of the selection.

I never want to see Chrissy at full back after last year's qualifier against Kildare. I can't remember if it was him or Johnston who was wearing no. 3 but between the pair of them they looked like under 14s trying to mark the big fella whose name escapes me.  It's not his game.

I think he's got plenty in his game to play 6. Or 5/7.  I completely agree that he slows it down too often but that's not a lack of ability, that's just him doing what he's been trained to do for his club for the last few years. We just need to train it out of him. He's a good ball carrier, a decent passer when he tries it, and has kicked many a good score from distance. Rogers/Mulholland full backs for me, every day.

I agree, wouldn't have Chrissy in the fullback line either. He's not comfortable marking in there. I'd be tempted to play him Midfield, as Derry aren't overloaded with options in this position

[TheOptimist]

After Derry's much improved displays this season there should be some very healthy competition for places for the opening league match against Antrim.It is important, however, for management to always put out a very strong side in each of the league games as we can not afford any slip ups. I would expect that the u20 players would not be considered for the League  games except in an emergency situation.Assuming that Brendan Rogers,Paul McNeill and Ryan Bell will not be fully fit, I would suggest the following team to be picked against the Glensmen.
                                                 B McKinless
N Keenan                                  C Mulholland                        K McKaigue
M McEvoy                                   C McKaigue                          E McGill
                                  C McAtamney            C McFaul
P Coney                                     C Bradley                            P Cassidy
E Lynn                                        E Bradley                            S McGuigan
Subs
T Mallon
E Concannon
S Quinn
R Dougan
G McKinless
J Rocks
D Hughes
T O'Brien
J Doherty
N Toner

A much better effort than usual Optimist. But still at least 4 wrong.

Chrissy McKaigue, IMO, can only effectively play at full back for county. He doesn't have enough going forward and all too often plays the ball back after running 30yards, which slows the whole attack down even if it does retain possession.
Of that team, I'd drop mulhullan, put Chrissy in full back and bring mckinless into CHB.
We need to be tough to beat first a foremost. With the exception of Rodgers that would be our strongest available defence IMO.
Wouldn't have any complaints about the rest of the selection.

I never want to see Chrissy at full back after last year's qualifier against Kildare. I can't remember if it was him or Johnston who was wearing no. 3 but between the pair of them they looked like under 14s trying to mark the big fella whose name escapes me.  It's not his game.

I think he's got plenty in his game to play 6. Or 5/7.  I completely agree that he slows it down too often but that's not a lack of ability, that's just him doing what he's been trained to do for his club for the last few years. We just need to train it out of him. He's a good ball carrier, a decent passer when he tries it, and has kicked many a good score from distance. Rogers/Mulholland full backs for me, every day.

I agree, wouldn't have Chrissy in the fullback line either. He's not comfortable marking in there. I'd be tempted to play him Midfield, as Derry aren't overloaded with options in this position

+1, I still have nightmares of Longford in 2014

[tbrick18]

After Derry's much improved displays this season there should be some very healthy competition for places for the opening league match against Antrim.It is important, however, for management to always put out a very strong side in each of the league games as we can not afford any slip ups. I would expect that the u20 players would not be considered for the League  games except in an emergency situation.Assuming that Brendan Rogers,Paul McNeill and Ryan Bell will not be fully fit, I would suggest the following team to be picked against the Glensmen.
                                                 B McKinless
N Keenan                                  C Mulholland                        K McKaigue
M McEvoy                                   C McKaigue                          E McGill
                                  C McAtamney            C McFaul
P Coney                                     C Bradley                            P Cassidy
E Lynn                                        E Bradley                            S McGuigan
Subs
T Mallon
E Concannon
S Quinn
R Dougan
G McKinless
J Rocks
D Hughes
T O'Brien
J Doherty
N Toner

A much better effort than usual Optimist. But still at least 4 wrong.

Chrissy McKaigue, IMO, can only effectively play at full back for county. He doesn't have enough going forward and all too often plays the ball back after running 30yards, which slows the whole attack down even if it does retain possession.
Of that team, I'd drop mulhullan, put Chrissy in full back and bring mckinless into CHB.
We need to be tough to beat first a foremost. With the exception of Rodgers that would be our strongest available defence IMO.
Wouldn't have any complaints about the rest of the selection.

I never want to see Chrissy at full back after last year's qualifier against Kildare. I can't remember if it was him or Johnston who was wearing no. 3 but between the pair of them they looked like under 14s trying to mark the big fella whose name escapes me.  It's not his game.

I think he's got plenty in his game to play 6. Or 5/7.  I completely agree that he slows it down too often but that's not a lack of ability, that's just him doing what he's been trained to do for his club for the last few years. We just need to train it out of him. He's a good ball carrier, a decent passer when he tries it, and has kicked many a good score from distance. Rogers/Mulholland full backs for me, every day.

I agree, wouldn't have Chrissy in the fullback line either. He's not comfortable marking in there. I'd be tempted to play him Midfield, as Derry aren't overloaded with options in this position

We'll just have to agree to disagree.
IMO, Chrissy's best football in a county jersey was when he was consistently playing full back. He's had runs in MF and CHB, none of which have been very good. I think he really cant play a HB role at all as he's not defensive enough when on that line. But in FB, he has a man-marking job and that I think he can be very good at whilst also marshalling the full back line.
Any player can have a bad day if he's put into a position he's not regularly playing in though.
I'd have Rodgers in CHB before Chrissy. But, only an opinion.

[tbrick18]

After Derry's much improved displays this season there should be some very healthy competition for places for the opening league match against Antrim.It is important, however, for management to always put out a very strong side in each of the league games as we can not afford any slip ups. I would expect that the u20 players would not be considered for the League  games except in an emergency situation.Assuming that Brendan Rogers,Paul McNeill and Ryan Bell will not be fully fit, I would suggest the following team to be picked against the Glensmen.
                                                 B McKinless
N Keenan                                  C Mulholland                        K McKaigue
M McEvoy                                   C McKaigue                          E McGill
                                  C McAtamney            C McFaul
P Coney                                     C Bradley                            P Cassidy
E Lynn                                        E Bradley                            S McGuigan
Subs
T Mallon
E Concannon
S Quinn
R Dougan
G McKinless
J Rocks
D Hughes
T O'Brien
J Doherty
N Toner

A much better effort than usual Optimist. But still at least 4 wrong.

Chrissy McKaigue, IMO, can only effectively play at full back for county. He doesn't have enough going forward and all too often plays the ball back after running 30yards, which slows the whole attack down even if it does retain possession.
Of that team, I'd drop mulhullan, put Chrissy in full back and bring mckinless into CHB.
We need to be tough to beat first a foremost. With the exception of Rodgers that would be our strongest available defence IMO.
Wouldn't have any complaints about the rest of the selection.

I never want to see Chrissy at full back after last year's qualifier against Kildare. I can't remember if it was him or Johnston who was wearing no. 3 but between the pair of them they looked like under 14s trying to mark the big fella whose name escapes me.  It's not his game.

I think he's got plenty in his game to play 6. Or 5/7.  I completely agree that he slows it down too often but that's not a lack of ability, that's just him doing what he's been trained to do for his club for the last few years. We just need to train it out of him. He's a good ball carrier, a decent passer when he tries it, and has kicked many a good score from distance. Rogers/Mulholland full backs for me, every day.

I agree, wouldn't have Chrissy in the fullback line either. He's not comfortable marking in there. I'd be tempted to play him Midfield, as Derry aren't overloaded with options in this position

+1, I still have nightmares of Longford in 2014

I wouldn't set that one at Chrissy's door, it was an all round nightmare performance.
How many times have Longford turned us over? A total bogey team for us (but then who isn't these days).

[oakleaflad]

After Derry's much improved displays this season there should be some very healthy competition for places for the opening league match against Antrim.It is important, however, for management to always put out a very strong side in each of the league games as we can not afford any slip ups. I would expect that the u20 players would not be considered for the League  games except in an emergency situation.Assuming that Brendan Rogers,Paul McNeill and Ryan Bell will not be fully fit, I would suggest the following team to be picked against the Glensmen.
                                                 B McKinless
N Keenan                                  C Mulholland                        K McKaigue
M McEvoy                                   C McKaigue                          E McGill
                                  C McAtamney            C McFaul
P Coney                                     C Bradley                            P Cassidy
E Lynn                                        E Bradley                            S McGuigan
Subs
T Mallon
E Concannon
S Quinn
R Dougan
G McKinless
J Rocks
D Hughes
T O'Brien
J Doherty
N Toner

A much better effort than usual Optimist. But still at least 4 wrong.

Chrissy McKaigue, IMO, can only effectively play at full back for county. He doesn't have enough going forward and all too often plays the ball back after running 30yards, which slows the whole attack down even if it does retain possession.
Of that team, I'd drop mulhullan, put Chrissy in full back and bring mckinless into CHB.
We need to be tough to beat first a foremost. With the exception of Rodgers that would be our strongest available defence IMO.
Wouldn't have any complaints about the rest of the selection.

I never want to see Chrissy at full back after last year's qualifier against Kildare. I can't remember if it was him or Johnston who was wearing no. 3 but between the pair of them they looked like under 14s trying to mark the big fella whose name escapes me.  It's not his game.

I think he's got plenty in his game to play 6. Or 5/7.  I completely agree that he slows it down too often but that's not a lack of ability, that's just him doing what he's been trained to do for his club for the last few years. We just need to train it out of him. He's a good ball carrier, a decent passer when he tries it, and has kicked many a good score from distance. Rogers/Mulholland full backs for me, every day.

I agree, wouldn't have Chrissy in the fullback line either. He's not comfortable marking in there. I'd be tempted to play him Midfield, as Derry aren't overloaded with options in this position

We'll just have to agree to disagree.
IMO, Chrissy's best football in a county jersey was when he was consistently playing full back. He's had runs in MF and CHB, none of which have been very good. I think he really cant play a HB role at all as he's not defensive enough when on that line. But in FB, he has a man-marking job and that I think he can be very good at whilst also marshalling the full back line.
Any player can have a bad day if he's put into a position he's not regularly playing in though.
I'd have Rodgers in CHB before Chrissy. But, only an opinion.

Although ultimately I don't agree with you I definitely understand your argument. It's nice that we seem to have more defensive options than in previous years.
Also, was Chrissy at full back against Kildare? I honestly don't remember that. I mind thinking Flynn was too big physically for his man before Rogers was brought on. I thought it was McNeill and maybe Johnson who were tried before that?
Just looking up at the squad posted above, are we a bit short on forwards? Both E Bradley and P Cassidy named in forwards when both could end up playing midfield and more defenders on the bench. Outside of Bell is there any other forwards to come in (not on U20s)?

[Newbridge Exile]

After Derry's much improved displays this season there should be some very healthy competition for places for the opening league match against Antrim.It is important, however, for management to always put out a very strong side in each of the league games as we can not afford any slip ups. I would expect that the u20 players would not be considered for the League  games except in an emergency situation.Assuming that Brendan Rogers,Paul McNeill and Ryan Bell will not be fully fit, I would suggest the following team to be picked against the Glensmen.
                                                 B McKinless
N Keenan                                  C Mulholland                        K McKaigue
M McEvoy                                   C McKaigue                          E McGill
                                  C McAtamney            C McFaul
P Coney                                     C Bradley                            P Cassidy
E Lynn                                        E Bradley                            S McGuigan
Subs
T Mallon
E Concannon
S Quinn
R Dougan
G McKinless
J Rocks
D Hughes
T O'Brien
J Doherty
N Toner

A much better effort than usual Optimist. But still at least 4 wrong.

Chrissy McKaigue, IMO, can only effectively play at full back for county. He doesn't have enough going forward and all too often plays the ball back after running 30yards, which slows the whole attack down even if it does retain possession.
Of that team, I'd drop mulhullan, put Chrissy in full back and bring mckinless into CHB.
We need to be tough to beat first a foremost. With the exception of Rodgers that would be our strongest available defence IMO.
Wouldn't have any complaints about the rest of the selection.

I never want to see Chrissy at full back after last year's qualifier against Kildare. I can't remember if it was him or Johnston who was wearing no. 3 but between the pair of them they looked like under 14s trying to mark the big fella whose name escapes me.  It's not his game.

I think he's got plenty in his game to play 6. Or 5/7.  I completely agree that he slows it down too often but that's not a lack of ability, that's just him doing what he's been trained to do for his club for the last few years. We just need to train it out of him. He's a good ball carrier, a decent passer when he tries it, and has kicked many a good score from distance. Rogers/Mulholland full backs for me, every day.

I agree, wouldn't have Chrissy in the fullback line either. He's not comfortable marking in there. I'd be tempted to play him Midfield, as Derry aren't overloaded with options in this position

We'll just have to agree to disagree.
IMO, Chrissy's best football in a county jersey was when he was consistently playing full back. He's had runs in MF and CHB, none of which have been very good. I think he really cant play a HB role at all as he's not defensive enough when on that line. But in FB, he has a man-marking job and that I think he can be very good at whilst also marshalling the full back line.
Any player can have a bad day if he's put into a position he's not regularly playing in though.
I'd have Rodgers in CHB before Chrissy. But, only an opinion.

Although ultimately I don't agree with you I definitely understand your argument. It's nice that we seem to have more defensive options than in previous years.
Also, was Chrissy at full back against Kildare? I honestly don't remember that. I mind thinking Flynn was too big physically for his man before Rogers was brought on. I thought it was McNeill and maybe Johnson who were tried before that?
Just looking up at the squad posted above, are we a bit short on forwards? Both E Bradley and P Cassidy named in forwards when both could end up playing midfield and more defenders on the bench. Outside of Bell is there any other forwards to come in (not on U20s)?

Are there ow Banagher men in the Panel , ?