Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[HiMucker]

Surprised there is no mention of the Glen players hit with a flare after the game

[Estimator]

My point is that within the 4mins of 'added time', there was M'felt lads down injured, so he should have added more than the 4mins.

Plus was there a sub or 2 made at this stage of game?

This is something that happens all the time. It's occured in All-Ireland Finals, nevermind the Derry SFC. Something that should really be tightened up, but JJ put himself in an impossible situation. Should have blown it up before it got to that. Wasn't at the game, but from talking to people who were, he was already into extra time after the additional 4mins.

Also seen a clip yesterday evening of a Glen supporter giving Cleary a bit of a shunt as he was being escorted off by the fellas in the bright orange vests. Seemed to be dealt with very quickly, by other Glen supporters.

But that's the problem Estimator - it there is 4mins for added time, but if a team's players are down injured and more than like wasting time and killing the game, never mind subs off and on, then another 3 mins should be added.

In fairness, time keeping for county games and club championship games should be taken out of refs' hands.  He has too much to do during a game.

Pity that was debated at congress at the week-end.

I'd agree with you on that, it is happening at higher profile games than this, and nothing is being done about it.  It isn't just subs and injuries, its time taken to hit any frees given in injury time. Think back to the 2011 All-Ireland final, just over a minute between the final free being awarded and Cluxton striking the ball over the bar.  That minute is lost and not added on at the end.  It would take a very strong ref to actually implement the extra time required for all the stoppages incurred during the stipulated time added on.

[Keyser soze]

Congratulations Magherafelt, a deserved win. they were much the better team on the day. Tough on Glen who didn't bring a good performance for much of the game unfortunately for them. Their supporters level of expectation [I was going to use entitlement] puts an unneeded extra degree of pressure on a young team IMO.

JJ def played over the allotted injury time and the whistle has clearly gone a good few seconds before the Glen 'point' was kicked.

The sound system in CP is indeed woeful, though the BINGBONG works a treat!! Vuvezealas [sp] should be bannned in GAA grounds.

[tonesfirstandlast]

I was talking to a man last night and we agreed that the Townies won a very handy championship.
Like, they were lucky to beat an ageing  Coleraine team, Ballinascreen with just one championship that we donated to them one year, Banagher, no championships and Glen , no championships.
Good luck to them anyway.
On another note, football must be very in Antrim.

[Pearse Blue]

I was talking to a man last night and we agreed that the Townies won a very handy championship.
Like, they were lucky to beat an ageing  Coleraine team, Ballinascreen with just one championship that we donated to them one year, Banagher, no championships and Glen , no championships.
Good luck to them anyway.
On another note, football must be very in Antrim.

Catch yourself on, put more excuses in too while your at it.

[thebuzz]

My point is that within the 4mins of 'added time', there was M'felt lads down injured, so he should have added more than the 4mins.

Plus was there a sub or 2 made at this stage of game?

This is something that happens all the time. It's occured in All-Ireland Finals, nevermind the Derry SFC. Something that should really be tightened up, but JJ put himself in an impossible situation. Should have blown it up before it got to that. Wasn't at the game, but from talking to people who were, he was already into extra time after the additional 4mins.

Also seen a clip yesterday evening of a Glen supporter giving Cleary a bit of a shunt as he was being escorted off by the fellas in the bright orange vests. Seemed to be dealt with very quickly, by other Glen supporters.

But that's the problem Estimator - it there is 4mins for added time, but if a team's players are down injured and more than like wasting time and killing the game, never mind subs off and on, then another 3 mins should be added.

In fairness, time keeping for county games and club championship games should be taken out of refs' hands.  He has too much to do during a game.

Pity that was debated at congress at the week-end.

Yeah all the other crap they put in to 'fix' the game. There's never any argument about time in the ladies' game. Why not use that method?

[marty34]

Congratulations Magherafelt, a deserved win. they were much the better team on the day. Tough on Glen who didn't bring a good performance for much of the game unfortunately for them. Their supporters level of expectation [I was going to use entitlement] puts an unneeded extra degree of pressure on a young team IMO.

JJ def played over the allotted injury time and the whistle has clearly gone a good few seconds before the Glen 'point' was kicked.

The sound system in CP is indeed woeful, though the BINGBONG works a treat!! Vuvezealas [sp] should be bannned in GAA grounds.

Re; Time.  That's the point we're debating/agreeing on.  If 6mins for example is allocated, but within that 6mins, there's lads going down 'injured', subs on/off and clear time wasting, the ref should add on that time.  Subs I think in that time - ref has to add 30secs on.  General feeling from fans is - that's 6mins up, blow 'er up whereas in reality, he should be playing maybe 9mins.

Agree, the sound system in Celtic Park is a joke - worst ever.  We never heard how many minutes the ref was adding on - maybe that's where people got confused.

The language from the young Magherafelt 'soccer supporters' on the hill behind the goal wasn't nice - don't need that in the gaa.

[marty34]

My point is that within the 4mins of 'added time', there was M'felt lads down injured, so he should have added more than the 4mins.

Plus was there a sub or 2 made at this stage of game?

This is something that happens all the time. It's occured in All-Ireland Finals, nevermind the Derry SFC. Something that should really be tightened up, but JJ put himself in an impossible situation. Should have blown it up before it got to that. Wasn't at the game, but from talking to people who were, he was already into extra time after the additional 4mins.

Also seen a clip yesterday evening of a Glen supporter giving Cleary a bit of a shunt as he was being escorted off by the fellas in the bright orange vests. Seemed to be dealt with very quickly, by other Glen supporters.

But that's the problem Estimator - it there is 4mins for added time, but if a team's players are down injured and more than like wasting time and killing the game, never mind subs off and on, then another 3 mins should be added.

In fairness, time keeping for county games and club championship games should be taken out of refs' hands.  He has too much to do during a game.

Pity that was debated at congress at the week-end.

Yeah all the other crap they put in to 'fix' the game. There's never any argument about time in the ladies' game. Why not use that method?

Totally agree Buzz - works really well and ref can ref the game without the hassle of time keeping.

[Will it ever end]

I may be wrong but looking at the watch on the final whistle he'd played 2 minutes over the allotted 4 minutes.

Magherafelt were very impressive overall yesterday but solid defence was their basis - Emmett McGuckin / Conor McCluskey / Simon McErlain / Fergal Duffin / Darren O'Neill all excellent, and Chris Kearns very good & had of been able to convert those goal chances may not have been as close in the end & special mention for Odhran Lynch who has come in for a little criticism for his shot stopping & fielding - he made one point blank save in the first half & gave an exhibition of high fielding under pressure in the second half.

Glen had some excellent performances as well - thought Danny Tallon / Ethan Doherty were stand outs. 

[Estimator]

I may be wrong but looking at the watch on the final whistle he'd played 2 minutes over the allotted 4 minutes.

Just picked up the Irish News, Cahair O'Kane stated "almost seven minutes into what was meant to be four minutes of stoppage time, during which there was further delays" So maybe JJ added on the appropriate time...

[Keyser soze]

Did you mean Alex Doherty?

Jared Monaghan put in a great shift

[Leaveherlong]

Whatever about the rights and wrongs, and things said in the heat of the moment, the level of vitriol directed at John Joe Cleary is simply wrong. Most people involved in yesterday's game have to get on with their work today/ tomorrow and that includes the referee and his officials. People need to wise up and whilst its really hard to take a narrow defeat in any game, without referees there are no games. Everyones got an opinion and thats fine but people need to catch themselves on - no one died. It was a game of football and life goes on.

The only thing I would say about the PA system is could it be used a bit less -  we don't need a minute by minute update. So maybe just dial it down a bit.

[Will it ever end]

Sorry your absolutely right - Alex Doherty.

[Keyser soze]

I see Emmet Mc got MOM yesterday, he had a great game yesterday but for me Conor Kearns was the best player on the pitch and my player of the championship. Has he ever got a Derry call up?

[Mikhailov]

Lads, went to this game as a neutral yesterday albeit a Tyrone man. Was impressed by a lot of things - CP has a great atmosphere to it, referee whilst making some debatable decisions let the physical side of it go which let the game flow. Both teams tried to play football but I felt Magherafelt were much better team on the day, better organised, better drilled and appeared much sharper. Glen can feel aggrieved at the decision at the end but Rossa can rightly complain about the goal chance at the start that the referee called back when one of their players was clean through on goal.

A great advert for Derry football - surely you men will see some of these players in county colours in 2020