Dublin v Tyrone. 11/02/17. Croke Park, Dublin.

Started by omagh_gael, February 06, 2017, 12:14:01 PM

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Taylor

Defensive minded team as expected but if we are going to hit them on the counter why o why is RON playing?
Bradley needs to start if we are going to get enough scores to win as RON free taking just not consistent enough.

McNulty will make it and I believe it is right to start him - the more game time, expecially in big games like this, he gets the better.

As alluded to before we need to ensure we keep it tight and dont get hit by a goal or 2 in first 15mins - if we do it could be a massacre

skeog

Is Ronan the new Conor Clarke always getting slated no matter how he plays.

Fuzzman

Why do you say that Skeog? Do you think he played well recently? In my eyes he only played well last year against Derry but did very little every other game. His slow ponderous style is the opposite to what we need with our break at pace tactics.

Do you not think he was poor last week? Not just the missed frees but his lack of willingness to run and work hard.
Yes he's good at hitting a pass and has good vision but to play in the forward line nowadays you need to be willing to work hard OFF the ball and do things quickly.


Taylor

Quote from: skeog on February 10, 2017, 04:09:25 PM
Is Ronan the new Conor Clarke always getting slated no matter how he plays.

Not at all - felt he slowed things last day out and against teams like the Dubs where we defend deep and break at speed he isnt the man.
Would be more suited to teams that defend deep against us

BennyHarp

#79
I think people are being a bit harsh on Ronan O'Neill here. Clearly a talented lad and needs games. There'd be the same faces on here criticizing if Ronan was dropped, bemoaning another lost talent who wasn't given a chance. Let's see how he gets on in a big test like v the Dubs in Croker. Last year was his first real ful, injury free, year in the senior jersey maybe he'll kick on now. I wouldn't be so quick to write him off! As for Bradley, clearly he's got a big role to play this season but it's very early days, I'm sure he will be involved sooner rather than later. .
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In hiding

Quote from: Fuzzman on February 10, 2017, 04:31:29 PM
Why do you say that Skeog? Do you think he played well recently? In my eyes he only played well last year against Derry but did very little every other game. His slow ponderous style is the opposite to what we need with our break at pace tactics.

Do you not think he was poor last week? Not just the missed frees but his lack of willingness to run and work hard.
Yes he's good at hitting a pass and has good vision but to play in the forward line nowadays you need to be willing to work hard OFF the ball and do things quickly.
Did you see tyrone play much championship football last year. He was good against cavan both days. (Didn't score in the replay - when other forwards were being selfish, he was being the opposite) , was on a hiding to nothing in the ulster final and did ok in the mayo game. Certainly did not play poorly.
He was poor on sunday though but was he the only one ? Seems he was as no one else seems to be getting slated. But sure aren't we like the English press

LeoMc

Quote from: redhandofgod on February 10, 2017, 11:21:11 AM
Rony O'Neill starts again.....am I missing something? he's brutal slow in open play and hes not even that tara at the frees.
He did a lot of running last week but always seemed to be out of puff.
Maybe he just needs a run of games to get his confidence and fitness levels up.
Without McAliskey we have fewer options so maybe the development needs to happen on the field.
Bradley to come on second half to take advantage if Dubs tiring early in the he season.

Il Bomber Destro

Quote from: bigpackiechestout on February 10, 2017, 11:55:26 AM
Also surprised at RoN starting after the poor showing last weekend. Theoretically the team could change before throw-in with Mark Bradley taking his place but if this was to be the only change we would literally have no outfield player on the field capable of taking free kicks with their right foot. This could prove to be a serious problem as the year progresses particularly if big Sean doesn't start every game.

I'd have no problem playing Ronan O'Neill (or somebody else for that matter) every game solely for their free taking ability if they were proven to be consistently reliable at them. Unfortunately that hasn't been the case up until now.

Morgan will probably take the long range ones on the left.

We don't seem to have too much of a problem with frees from inside 35 yards, it's outside where the issue has been.

Il Bomber Destro

I'd also be surprised if the team starts like that.

McClure who started last week in place of an injured McNulty is the only change to the team named last week. I will imagine Mickey will assess those involved in midweek action and a few changes will be made

I'd hate to think Mickey is thinking about putting Petey at 6. Even in today's game of players paying everywhere, 6 is still a specialist position, you need a guy there who can read the game well and hold the middle. To play it effectively will require that player to sacrifice their game and playing your best footballers there will certainly have a negative impact on their game. I really hope neither Mattie or Petey are put there when the serious football starts in the summer.

Right now the key men in the side are Colm Cavanagh, Sludden, Harte and Donnelly, they are the heart beat in the side. Cavanagh does so much work and offers great protection to his defence while the latter three are the players everything goes through. Hopefully Bradley can keep on progressing this year and become as important as them.

rrhf

Regardless of what happens. There's one man who has brought himself to a new level with his performances for 4 years steady. That Colm Cavanagh hasn't an all star is unbelievable. To me he is a very strong possibility to be next years Tyrone captain. Although Marty donnelly and petite Harte would be deserving also.

twohands!!!

Quote from: rrhf on February 10, 2017, 07:23:41 PM
Regardless of what happens. There's one man who has brought himself to a new level with his performances for 4 years steady. That Colm Cavanagh hasn't an all star is unbelievable. To me he is a very strong possibility to be next years Tyrone captain. Although Marty donnelly and petite Harte would be deserving also.

:D :D :D

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rrhf

Amazing after the last 4 games only 1 point between them to the dubs. Tyrone and dubs are a brilliant rivalry

ONeill

I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Fuzzman

#89
Plenty of bite in that Dublin attack. I see Jason Whelan is back.
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