Why are Dublin so poor.........at minors

[Jinxy]

We threw our money at the floodlights in PT till they fell over.

[The Aristocrat]

I do apologise , im wrong on the Tyrone thing but the point is Dublin are not the only ones that have money or were given money.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/a-67m-monument-to-tyrone-ambition-29509448.html

Tyrone County Board have contributed 51pc (£3.4m), Croke Park have given 28pc (£1.6m), a Northern Ireland rural development programme has funded 13pc (£0.85m), and other local state bodies, including the tourist board, £1m.

A total of £2m has still to be paid off but Tyrone have borrowed this from Croke Park and are confident of clearing it inside their 10-year target.

[Lar Naparka]

Its like a forum of Ewan McKenna's. Dublin have advantages yes, they always had advantages.

Say what you will but to me you are disrespecting the Dublin GAA community disrespecting the thousands of volunteers, many many form the country, the visionaries, the grassroots,  the clubs, the club players. Dublin are the same as any other county in that the GAA is grassroots and club first, to your surprise we actually don't have a factory that makes footballers, as stated before a lot of the current squad fathers played for Dublin which created natural ability and with a coach like Gavin the worlds is yours.

Its seems maybe your gripe should be with the GAA, not Dublin.

And this team is an exceptional team and wont be around forever. A lot of players going past their peak.

None of this was a problem when Dublin were not winning and getting beaten by Tyrone (7 million British tax payer money for centre of excellence) or Kerry ( sponsored by a Billionaire Euro Company , one of the biggest is Europe and the world) .

Id advise you all to spend a few days in Dublin travelling around different clubs in different areas to see what is like.

I am saying that you and other Dubs won't accept that you have many advantages over other counties- that's all. Simple really.
You want us to accept that somehow you just happen to have a very talented team and when the likes of Connolly and Brogan retire, you'll be back down with the common herd again. You are no different to Kerry of the late 70s or Kilkenny hurlers.

Bullshit!!
Kilkenny and Kerry did not have the same number of payers to pick from or anywhere the same money as some of those around them. Kilkenny had (has?) only 12 senior clubs; Cork has 27, Tipp (I think) has 19/20., dunno about Dublin but you can be sure they had more spondulicks in the account than Kilkenny.
One year the side that won the All Ireland had to go around with plastic buckets looking for donation to fund their promised holiday.
Do you think you'll see the day when Clucko or Berno will be reduced to standing in line on O'Connell Bridge, trying to scrounge a few euros from passers by?
Most of the present panel were playing when Meath beat the crap out of them in 2010, putting five past Clucko. Do you think they all came good at the same time as if by magic? If you do, you still believe in fairytales.
With the present structures Dublin have, you'll have a continuous stream of young players coming through. The likes of Kilkenny, Costello, McCaffrey etc. will keep on coming aboard, year after year. Again, I'm saying to you that I don't envy Dublin their good luck; they are doing nothing wrong by putting all their advantages to good use but stop codding yourself that you are somehow no different to the rest of us.

I've no problem with Jim Gavin or his team. Dublin GAA is taking advantage of the favourable advantages in which they find themselves and are making the most of it. Mayo, Kerry, Donegal or any other county would do the same.


BTW, have you any idea of how many km Cillian O'Connor and any others working or studying in Dublin have to travel every week to train with the Mayo panel?
Well, three round trips to Castlebar and back comes to over 900!
No Dublin player has to travel a tenth of that and you think there's no difference between them!

[The Aristocrat]

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/gaa-sponsorship-deals-highlight-richman-poorman-divide-29649138.html

Tyrone, with the help of their 'Club Tyrone' supporters' wing, opened their astonishing new €8m training base in Garvaghey on September 28, 10 years to the day after they won their first All-Ireland.

Kerry revealed plans for a similarly ambitious dual-base centre of excellence this week that will cost them just shy of €6m – with the backing of €1m from county sponsors Kerry Group.

And Hurling:


Hurling isn't immune, either. When Tipperary halted Kilkenny's 'Drive for Five', they spent a record €1.2m on preparing their county teams that year, and that figure has remained around the €1m mark.

Clare's expenditure jumped by €110,000 last year as they secured an U-21 All-Ireland and, after retaining that title and collecting the Liam MacCarthy Cup, another sizeable leap in outgoings can be expected.


Commercial appeal can help offset the costs of running county teams but some counties are finding it increasingly difficult to attract sponsors. Last year Cork wore a charity's logo as they searched for a successor to telecommunications giant O2. Insurance company Chill eventually signed a three-year sponsorship deal worth an estimated €1m.

[The Aristocrat]

Kerry have also come to the business table with a massive fundraising event, which was held in the Plaza Hotel, New York last May, and raised a little over €1 million. 420 guests, from businessmen to the Kerry diaspora living across the United States attended, in order to fund Kerry GAA's €5.8 million Centre of Excellence.

Kerry's sponsors are no shrinking violets either and the team can rely on support from the likes of Kerry Group, financial institutions such as the Irish League of Credit Unions and Acorn Life, Hotel groups like The Brehon and The Malton Hotel, Skins Sportswear, Castleisland Co-op, The Kerryman newspaper, and Keanes Supervalu.

In Kerry Group, a leading global brand in the food sector, Kerry GAA have a major sponsor which at least lets them try to compete with the Dublin model.

Kilkenny have another major sponsor in Glanbia/Avonmore to fuel their success. They have also built a new training centre in Dunmore, which will be funded by MW Hire. Mattie Walsh (MW Hire), a former Kilkenny hurler has agreed to fund this for the first five years, ensuring the running costs of the venue are met.

A typical master stroke from Kilkenny, keeping it local without any loans or debts. Kilkenny don't do hype, on or off the field, and have even named their new facility as the 'Training Centre' rather than the 'Centre of Excellence', which every county team in Ireland now must own and eventually pay for.

Offaly are currently building 'A Centre' outside Kilcormac at a cost of €2,250,000. A major fundraiser is under way at present, with former player Michael Duignam leading the way and golfer Shane Lowry also getting involved. They now need to raise €750,000 and hope the development would be debt free.

In Cork at their County Board Convention last December, Chairman Ger Lane stressed that 'red lights were flashing' with regards to the county's finances. Investment bonds which were cashed in were supposedly shielding the existing debt that exists. As the Chairman states in his address to the county board delegates, "no business could operate on the losses we'd made over the last few years without those investments. The red lights are certainly flashing in terms of financing and the cisteoir (treasurer) has a huge task to turn that around in the next year or so."

Another example of a county board burdening themselves with a debt of €70 million for a project to build a state of the art stadium along with another 'Centre Of Excellence'.

In the last few days the Westmeath County Board have announced naming rights for their Cusack Park pitch with TEG Engineering coming on board in a five year deal. It was only at the previous months convention that Westmeath County Board Chairman, Sean Sheridan, spoke on how the county is "practically broke", with a debt of €194,000.

Carlow's County Board last year announced an exclusive naming rights with Netwatch.

County Boards are now being stretched in order to survive. A money game is gripping every county, with corporate sponsors, naming rights of pitches and 'Centres of Excellence' scattered around our cities and towns.

We have now reached saturation point where survival of the fittest is no longer a reference for our teams on the pitch, but also off it.

Dublin and Kerry lead the way on and off the field, but Cork's example is a message to all that even the top counties are now finding it hard to participate in the money game.

The GAA is "Ireland's largest sporting organisation and is celebrated as one of the great amateur sporting associations in the world today".

(A quote from the official GAA web page)




http://www.punditarena.com/gaa/dcashin/g-money-game/

[Dinny Breen]

Its like a forum of Ewan McKenna's. Dublin have advantages yes, they always had advantages.

Say what you will but to me you are disrespecting the Dublin GAA community disrespecting the thousands of volunteers, many many form the country, the visionaries, the grassroots,  the clubs, the club players. Dublin are the same as any other county in that the GAA is grassroots and club first, to your surprise we actually don't have a factory that makes footballers, as stated before a lot of the current squad fathers played for Dublin which created natural ability and with a coach like Gavin the worlds is yours.

Its seems maybe your gripe should be with the GAA, not Dublin.

And this team is an exceptional team and wont be around forever. A lot of players going past their peak.

None of this was a problem when Dublin were not winning and getting beaten by Tyrone (7 million British tax payer money for centre of excellence) or Kerry ( sponsored by a Billionaire Euro Company , one of the biggest is Europe and the world) .

Id advise you all to spend a few days in Dublin travelling around different clubs in different areas to see what is like.

The Tyrone centre of excellence was backed to the tune of 7 million by British tax payer money? Is that true?

Must be. Sure its on d'internet.

Don't do something hasty now like fact checking!

Anyway, every county got £7 Million. (Again - no fact checking).

Tyrone built a centre of blanket excellence
Dublin built the GOAT.
We built a stand.
Roscommon built a bus.

What did the other counties do?

We paid Geezer.

[Donnellys Hollow]

Its like a forum of Ewan McKenna's. Dublin have advantages yes, they always had advantages.

Say what you will but to me you are disrespecting the Dublin GAA community disrespecting the thousands of volunteers, many many form the country, the visionaries, the grassroots,  the clubs, the club players. Dublin are the same as any other county in that the GAA is grassroots and club first, to your surprise we actually don't have a factory that makes footballers, as stated before a lot of the current squad fathers played for Dublin which created natural ability and with a coach like Gavin the worlds is yours.

Its seems maybe your gripe should be with the GAA, not Dublin.

And this team is an exceptional team and wont be around forever. A lot of players going past their peak.

None of this was a problem when Dublin were not winning and getting beaten by Tyrone (7 million British tax payer money for centre of excellence) or Kerry ( sponsored by a Billionaire Euro Company , one of the biggest is Europe and the world) .

Id advise you all to spend a few days in Dublin travelling around different clubs in different areas to see what is like.

The Tyrone centre of excellence was backed to the tune of 7 million by British tax payer money? Is that true?

Must be. Sure its on d'internet.

Don't do something hasty now like fact checking!

Anyway, every county got £7 Million. (Again - no fact checking).

Tyrone built a centre of blanket excellence
Dublin built the GOAT.
We built a stand.
Roscommon built a bus.

What did the other counties do?

We paid Geezer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pol_omSl4RQ

[Il Bomber Destro]

Its like a forum of Ewan McKenna's. Dublin have advantages yes, they always had advantages.

Say what you will but to me you are disrespecting the Dublin GAA community disrespecting the thousands of volunteers, many many form the country, the visionaries, the grassroots,  the clubs, the club players. Dublin are the same as any other county in that the GAA is grassroots and club first, to your surprise we actually don't have a factory that makes footballers, as stated before a lot of the current squad fathers played for Dublin which created natural ability and with a coach like Gavin the worlds is yours.

Its seems maybe your gripe should be with the GAA, not Dublin.

And this team is an exceptional team and wont be around forever. A lot of players going past their peak.

None of this was a problem when Dublin were not winning and getting beaten by Tyrone (7 million British tax payer money for centre of excellence) or Kerry ( sponsored by a Billionaire Euro Company , one of the biggest is Europe and the world) .

Id advise you all to spend a few days in Dublin travelling around different clubs in different areas to see what is like.

Nice of you to spout blatant lies and inaccuracies to support your argument.

[Tony Baloney]

Its like a forum of Ewan McKenna's. Dublin have advantages yes, they always had advantages.

Say what you will but to me you are disrespecting the Dublin GAA community disrespecting the thousands of volunteers, many many form the country, the visionaries, the grassroots,  the clubs, the club players. Dublin are the same as any other county in that the GAA is grassroots and club first, to your surprise we actually don't have a factory that makes footballers, as stated before a lot of the current squad fathers played for Dublin which created natural ability and with a coach like Gavin the worlds is yours.

Its seems maybe your gripe should be with the GAA, not Dublin.

And this team is an exceptional team and wont be around forever. A lot of players going past their peak.

None of this was a problem when Dublin were not winning and getting beaten by Tyrone (7 million British tax payer money for centre of excellence) or Kerry ( sponsored by a Billionaire Euro Company , one of the biggest is Europe and the world) .

Id advise you all to spend a few days in Dublin travelling around different clubs in different areas to see what is like.

The Tyrone centre of excellence was backed to the tune of 7 million by British tax payer money? Is that true?

Must be. Sure its on d'internet.

Don't do something hasty now like fact checking!

Anyway, every county got £7 Million. (Again - no fact checking).

Tyrone built a centre of blanket excellence
Dublin built the GOAT.
We built a stand.
Roscommon built a bus.

What did the other counties do?

And what a bus.

[The Aristocrat]

Its like a forum of Ewan McKenna's. Dublin have advantages yes, they always had advantages.

Say what you will but to me you are disrespecting the Dublin GAA community disrespecting the thousands of volunteers, many many form the country, the visionaries, the grassroots,  the clubs, the club players. Dublin are the same as any other county in that the GAA is grassroots and club first, to your surprise we actually don't have a factory that makes footballers, as stated before a lot of the current squad fathers played for Dublin which created natural ability and with a coach like Gavin the worlds is yours.

Its seems maybe your gripe should be with the GAA, not Dublin.

And this team is an exceptional team and wont be around forever. A lot of players going past their peak.

None of this was a problem when Dublin were not winning and getting beaten by Tyrone (7 million British tax payer money for centre of excellence) or Kerry ( sponsored by a Billionaire Euro Company , one of the biggest is Europe and the world) .

Id advise you all to spend a few days in Dublin travelling around different clubs in different areas to see what is like.

Nice of you to spout blatant lies and inaccuracies to support your argument.

I corrected the Tyrone point in a later post, I was wrong and apologise, The majority was paid for by Tyrone with " loans " from Croke Park, but you've missed the point.

[The Aristocrat]

Banner chiefs and provincial council top-brass are close to striking a deal that will see the latter pump €½m in funding towards the two extensive projects currently being undertaken by Clare GAA.

The allocation by Munster Council is part of their five-year budgetary framework unveiled in January.

The centre of excellence, which will include four floodlit pitches, dressing rooms, a gym and catering facilities, is expected to be completed by the end of this year. The total cost is estimated at just over €4m.


The €2.3m redevelopment of the county's flagship venue, meanwhile, has been partially stalled due to the presence of the invasive Japanese knotweed which is delaying the construction of a 200-space car park behind the town end goal.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/clare-get-euro500000-munster-boost-322545.htmlc

[The Aristocrat]

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/cost-of-running-county-teams-at-record-levels-34513426.html

[shark]

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/cost-of-running-county-teams-at-record-levels-34513426.html

Pointless article. I know of one figure there (and it's not Dublin) that is massively under represented. The article makes the assumption that the county board is a senior team's only source of funding. In the case I'm aware of it isn't even their primary source. And I am sure that's the case in other counties too.

[thejuice]

We threw our money at the floodlights in PT till they fell over.

Actually we spent money putting them up, then spent more money taking them down. If they fell it would have saved us a few bob.

[Jinxy]

We took them down to change the bulbs.