All-Ireland Final, September 18th, 2016 - Dublin v Mayo

[bucko]

Word through the grapevine tonight is that Keith Higgins has suffered a nasty fall, not in training either. A fcking poxy accident at home, of all the bad luck. Damaged ribs I've been told from a reliable source.
This is a frigging nightmare, we need him badly if we're to have any chance. Going for a pint now.

If it's true it's being kept quiet. Not a mention of it anywhere else so far.

[galwayman]

It could have all been so different. Art would have got a well deserved AI win and Tyrone wouldn't have had to resort to puke football to eventually win it.

Borrow that leaf from our book for Sunday week, would yez bleedin' ever!

Should have done it a long time ago!

Whatever happens on Sunday week, 96, 97 and semi in 99 will always haunt me most.

Why 97 & 99?
I can understand 96 certainly but were  well beaten in those games in 97 & 99.

[From the Bunker]

It could have all been so different. Art would have got a well deserved AI win and Tyrone wouldn't have had to resort to puke football to eventually win it.

Borrow that leaf from our book for Sunday week, would yez bleedin' ever!

Should have done it a long time ago!

Whatever happens on Sunday week, 96, 97 and semi in 99 will always haunt me most.

Why 97 & 99?
I can understand 96 certainly but were  well beaten in those games in 97 & 99.

Yeah, '96 was the chance. 1997 Mayo were running on empty for the season. 1997 we were so hammered by Cork. And in fairness we go two chances in '96 and could not take either.

[From the Bunker]

Just wondering where Mayo would fit in terms of Standard in relation to Donegal and Kerry? Would many on this board see them as not as good as teams named?

[seafoid]

It could have all been so different. Art would have got a well deserved AI win and Tyrone wouldn't have had to resort to puke football to eventually win it.

Borrow that leaf from our book for Sunday week, would yez bleedin' ever!

Should have done it a long time ago!

Whatever happens on Sunday week, 96, 97 and semi in 99 will always haunt me most.

Why 97 & 99?
I can understand 96 certainly but were  well beaten in those games in 97 & 99.

Yeah, '96 was the chance. 1997 Mayo were running on empty for the season. 1997 we were so hammered by Cork. And in fairness we go two chances in '96 and could not take either.

Kerry beat Mayo in 97

[Zulu]

Mayo are certainly better than Donegal and probably better than Kerry but Kerry have better forwards so tend to eke out the wins against a Mayo team that are as good as anyone 1-9 but you can't depend on their forwards to clip a few vital scores to edge tight games against opposition at the same level as themselves.

If Mayo's forwards have a good day against Dublin then they've a great chance if they don't then they will be beaten for sure.

[From the Bunker]

It could have all been so different. Art would have got a well deserved AI win and Tyrone wouldn't have had to resort to puke football to eventually win it.

Borrow that leaf from our book for Sunday week, would yez bleedin' ever!

Should have done it a long time ago!

Whatever happens on Sunday week, 96, 97 and semi in 99 will always haunt me most.

Why 97 & 99?
I can understand 96 certainly but were  well beaten in those games in 97 & 99.

Yeah, '96 was the chance. 1997 Mayo were running on empty for the season. 1997 we were so hammered by Cork. And in fairness we go two chances in '96 and could not take either.

Kerry beat Mayo in 97

Sorry, ment to say 1999!

[From the Bunker]

Mayo are certainly better than Donegal and probably better than Kerry but Kerry have better forwards so tend to eke out the wins against a Mayo team that are as good as anyone 1-9 but you can't depend on their forwards to clip a few vital scores to edge tight games against opposition at the same level as themselves.

If Mayo's forwards have a good day against Dublin then they've a great chance if they don't then they will be beaten for sure.

Kerry always have good forwards, but this year - I'd struggle to think of them having more than 2 top class forwards on form?

[Captain Obvious]

Mayo are certainly better than Donegal and probably better than Kerry but Kerry have better forwards so tend to eke out the wins against a Mayo team that are as good as anyone 1-9 but you can't depend on their forwards to clip a few vital scores to edge tight games against opposition at the same level as themselves.

If Mayo's forwards have a good day against Dublin then they've a great chance if they don't then they will be beaten for sure.

On this years form Mayo are not better than Kerry and probably would have lost to Kerry in the final if they played them. Debatable on this years form if Mayo are better than Donegal either.

Best hope of Mayo winning this final  is by making the game a low scoring game. Don't be surprised if this final becomes a defensive dog fight like the league contest between the two was this year.

[From the Bunker]

Mayo are certainly better than Donegal and probably better than Kerry but Kerry have better forwards so tend to eke out the wins against a Mayo team that are as good as anyone 1-9 but you can't depend on their forwards to clip a few vital scores to edge tight games against opposition at the same level as themselves.

If Mayo's forwards have a good day against Dublin then they've a great chance if they don't then they will be beaten for sure.

On this years form Mayo are not better than Kerry and probably would have lost to Kerry in the final if they played them. Debatable on this years form if Mayo are better than Donegal either.

Best hope of Mayo winning this final  is by making the game a low scoring game. Don't be surprised if this final becomes a defensive dog fight like the league contest between the two was this year.

.......Or like against Tyrone?

Kerry can't be judged on anything this year! They beat Tipp and Clare twice! Because of their draw they ended up an unknown quantity playing Dublin and even after that game people are still unsure of their standing. A past legacy keeps them considered with the big boys!

[Captain Obvious]

Mayo are certainly better than Donegal and probably better than Kerry but Kerry have better forwards so tend to eke out the wins against a Mayo team that are as good as anyone 1-9 but you can't depend on their forwards to clip a few vital scores to edge tight games against opposition at the same level as themselves.

If Mayo's forwards have a good day against Dublin then they've a great chance if they don't then they will be beaten for sure.

On this years form Mayo are not better than Kerry and probably would have lost to Kerry in the final if they played them. Debatable on this years form if Mayo are better than Donegal either.

Best hope of Mayo winning this final  is by making the game a low scoring game. Don't be surprised if this final becomes a defensive dog fight like the league contest between the two was this year.

.......Or like against Tyrone?

Kerry can't be judged on anything this year! They beat Tipp and Clare twice! Because of their draw they ended up an unknown quantity playing Dublin and even after that game people are still unsure of their standing. A past legacy keeps them considered with the big boys!

Will have to be more defensive than that as Dublin are not going to score just 12 times from 33 attempts.

Kerry were the second best team in NFL this year which included a win in MacHale park. If Dublin win the All Ireland final next Sunday by a comfortable margin then we can also take it as granted that Kerry were the second best team in the All Ireland championship however second means nothing to Kerry!

[From the Bunker]

Mayo are certainly better than Donegal and probably better than Kerry but Kerry have better forwards so tend to eke out the wins against a Mayo team that are as good as anyone 1-9 but you can't depend on their forwards to clip a few vital scores to edge tight games against opposition at the same level as themselves.

If Mayo's forwards have a good day against Dublin then they've a great chance if they don't then they will be beaten for sure.

On this years form Mayo are not better than Kerry and probably would have lost to Kerry in the final if they played them. Debatable on this years form if Mayo are better than Donegal either.

Best hope of Mayo winning this final  is by making the game a low scoring game. Don't be surprised if this final becomes a defensive dog fight like the league contest between the two was this year.

.......Or like against Tyrone?

Kerry can't be judged on anything this year! They beat Tipp and Clare twice! Because of their draw they ended up an unknown quantity playing Dublin and even after that game people are still unsure of their standing. A past legacy keeps them considered with the big boys!

Will have to be more defensive than that as Dublin are not going to score just 12 times from 33 attempts.

Kerry were the second best team in NFL this year which included a win in MacHale park. If Dublin win the All Ireland final next Sunday by a comfortable margin then we can also take it as granted that Kerry were the second best team in the All Ireland championship however second means nothing to Kerry!

Take it from me, the way things are on the streets and by-roads of Mayo Second does not mean much here either!

[Syferus]

Mayo are certainly better than Donegal and probably better than Kerry but Kerry have better forwards so tend to eke out the wins against a Mayo team that are as good as anyone 1-9 but you can't depend on their forwards to clip a few vital scores to edge tight games against opposition at the same level as themselves.

If Mayo's forwards have a good day against Dublin then they've a great chance if they don't then they will be beaten for sure.

On this years form Mayo are not better than Kerry and probably would have lost to Kerry in the final if they played them. Debatable on this years form if Mayo are better than Donegal either.

Best hope of Mayo winning this final  is by making the game a low scoring game. Don't be surprised if this final becomes a defensive dog fight like the league contest between the two was this year.

.......Or like against Tyrone?

Kerry can't be judged on anything this year! They beat Tipp and Clare twice! Because of their draw they ended up an unknown quantity playing Dublin and even after that game people are still unsure of their standing. A past legacy keeps them considered with the big boys!

Will have to be more defensive than that as Dublin are not going to score just 12 times from 33 attempts.

Kerry were the second best team in NFL this year which included a win in MacHale park. If Dublin win the All Ireland final next Sunday by a comfortable margin then we can also take it as granted that Kerry were the second best team in the All Ireland championship however second means nothing to Kerry!

Kerry are second best in the same sense that Mars is the second most habitable planet in the solar system.

Mayo always have been more of a match-up issue for Dublin than Kerry are, though their form this year and overall since the 2013 suggests a terminal decline.

[seafoid]

I was listening to this today. 2 injured swans for Mayo next Sunday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ver0lMNMgw

To never have considered losing
as if to win is by your choosing

[Zulu]

Mayo are certainly better than Donegal and probably better than Kerry but Kerry have better forwards so tend to eke out the wins against a Mayo team that are as good as anyone 1-9 but you can't depend on their forwards to clip a few vital scores to edge tight games against opposition at the same level as themselves.

If Mayo's forwards have a good day against Dublin then they've a great chance if they don't then they will be beaten for sure.

On this years form Mayo are not better than Kerry and probably would have lost to Kerry in the final if they played them. Debatable on this years form if Mayo are better than Donegal either.

Best hope of Mayo winning this final  is by making the game a low scoring game. Don't be surprised if this final becomes a defensive dog fight like the league contest between the two was this year.

Don't really get this form talk about Mayo, they've done enough and have the experience to be able to deliver on the big day. Neither Kerry or Donegal were shooting the lights out this year either and I'd have backed Mayo to beat Donegal had they met. Wouldn't have been as confident against Kerry but they should beat the current Kerry team more often than not. Put a McManus or Brogan in their team and I think they beat Kerry 7 out of 10 times.