Ros v Shligo 12th June 2016.

[Syferus]

Some awful junior B stuff from us yesterday mixed with some great stuff in the 2nd half.Thatt 2nd quarter was a disgrace.
Still trying to come to terms with that turnaround. 4-10 to 0-5 !!!!
Lot of thinking for management - put in some bloody midfielders and where will we get a half back line?
Also our 3 starting full forwards ( Syfín's heroes) need to be benched and let the Smiths and hopefully Diarmuid start.
1-2 from our starting FF line over 3 quarter of the game, 1-3 from the Smiths in the last 15 minutes.
Qe are where we wanted to be but by  Jaysus are we a work in progress.....
Still a lot to do and it will be next Spring before McFod ( a Syfínism) get their right starting 15 on the field.
Meanwhile anything us possible ...from disaster to an AI SF......

either Donie or Senan should play not both. Cregg should be in the half forward line.

Senan was involved in 3/6 of the first half scores. set up a goal chance for cregg. scored the goal and laid off for the 7th point also was the player who won the penalty and still didn't play well!
need to work on the  basic errors we repeatedly  make

Would agree with most of that. Think Enda needs to start the final, and Donie Smith doesn't look too far off his brother either.

[Rudi]

Some awful junior B stuff from us yesterday mixed with some great stuff in the 2nd half.Thatt 2nd quarter was a disgrace.
Still trying to come to terms with that turnaround. 4-10 to 0-5 !!!!
Lot of thinking for management - put in some bloody midfielders and where will we get a half back line?
Also our 3 starting full forwards ( Syfín's heroes) need to be benched and let the Smiths and hopefully Diarmuid start.
1-2 from our starting FF line over 3 quarter of the game, 1-3 from the Smiths in the last 15 minutes.
Qe are where we wanted to be but by  Jaysus are we a work in progress.....
Still a lot to do and it will be next Spring before McFod ( a Syfínism) get their right starting 15 on the field.
Meanwhile anything us possible ...from disaster to an AI SF......

either Donie or Senan should play not both. Cregg should be in the half forward line.

Senan was involved in 3/6 of the first half scores. set up a goal chance for cregg. scored the goal and laid off for the 7th point also was the player who won the penalty and still didn't play well!
need to work on the  basic errors we repeatedly  make

And who exactly would give way to facilitate Cregg? The half forward line have been excellent all year. I think Cregg should be tried out in the half backline, other than Murray we are poor here. Would agree that Senan and Donie can't play in the same line. Senan did ok yesterday, bar a couple of good passes and a fine point the game passed Donie by. Sligo were shocking poor in the second half and were lucky not to concede 10 goals over the course of the game.

[Syferus]

Some awful junior B stuff from us yesterday mixed with some great stuff in the 2nd half.Thatt 2nd quarter was a disgrace.
Still trying to come to terms with that turnaround. 4-10 to 0-5 !!!!
Lot of thinking for management - put in some bloody midfielders and where will we get a half back line?
Also our 3 starting full forwards ( Syfín's heroes) need to be benched and let the Smiths and hopefully Diarmuid start.
1-2 from our starting FF line over 3 quarter of the game, 1-3 from the Smiths in the last 15 minutes.
Qe are where we wanted to be but by  Jaysus are we a work in progress.....
Still a lot to do and it will be next Spring before McFod ( a Syfínism) get their right starting 15 on the field.
Meanwhile anything us possible ...from disaster to an AI SF......

either Donie or Senan should play not both. Cregg should be in the half forward line.

Senan was involved in 3/6 of the first half scores. set up a goal chance for cregg. scored the goal and laid off for the 7th point also was the player who won the penalty and still didn't play well!
need to work on the  basic errors we repeatedly  make

And who exactly would give way to facilitate Cregg? The half forward have been excellent this year. I think Cregg should be tried out in the half backline, other than Murray we are poor here. Would agree that Senan and Donie can't play in the same line. Senan did ok yesterday, bar a couple of good passes and a fine point the game passed Donie by. Sligo were shocking poor in the second half and were lucky not to concede 10 goals over the course of the game.

I'd agree with Cregg being pulled back to try pullmig a Francie with in. Use his workhorse mentality and physicality. We need a 6 more than anything else right now.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

Some awful junior B stuff from us yesterday mixed with some great stuff in the 2nd half.Thatt 2nd quarter was a disgrace.
Still trying to come to terms with that turnaround. 4-10 to 0-5 !!!!
Lot of thinking for management - put in some bloody midfielders and where will we get a half back line?
Also our 3 starting full forwards ( Syfín's heroes) need to be benched and let the Smiths and hopefully Diarmuid start.
1-2 from our starting FF line over 3 quarter of the game, 1-3 from the Smiths in the last 15 minutes.
Qe are where we wanted to be but by  Jaysus are we a work in progress.....
Still a lot to do and it will be next Spring before McFod ( a Syfínism) get their right starting 15 on the field.
Meanwhile anything us possible ...from disaster to an AI SF......

either Donie or Senan should play not both. Cregg should be in the half forward line.

Senan was involved in 3/6 of the first half scores. set up a goal chance for cregg. scored the goal and laid off for the 7th point also was the player who won the penalty and still didn't play well!
need to work on the  basic errors we repeatedly  make

And who exactly would give way to facilitate Cregg? The half forward line have been excellent all year. I think Cregg should be tried out in the half backline, other than Murray we are poor here. Would agree that Senan and Donie can't play in the same line. Senan did ok yesterday, bar a couple of good passes and a fine point the game passed Donie by. Sligo were shocking poor in the second half and were lucky not to concede 10 goals over the course of the game.

the time for trying out for this year is over.  a final isnt the place anyway. we lost a yr or two development with JE IMO.

rudi i'd drop fintan.  it's a tough decision and he has played well but I think he is just a little slow to release possession and prone to taking wrong options.

you could easily pick any 4 from Kilbride, smith x2; shine, cregg x2, connolly, harney, devaney and you won't be any worst or better off. murtaghs are a touch above them I think and when fit should always start.

[ck]

I don't know how we were 8 points up at half time.  In my opinion, the only Sligo player that really played well was Pat Hughes who scored five points from play and tormented the Roscommon back line.

We have a very young full back line and our half backs were poor enough in the second half.  Once the sweeper (Gaughan) was replaced, Roscommon had a field day.

Still, there was only 4 points in the game going into the 69th minute.

At least Carew had not been afraid to bring in young talent, most of that team yesterday are in their early 20's (Kyle Cawley is 18 it think).  The second half was like a horror film.

On the bright side, we have some good minors coming up and I think we will be decent in a few years.  Congrats to Roscommon, the better team won no doubt but at least we gave ye a good kick up the arse in the first half,

Cawley is 19. He was a minor last year. Massive prospect

[mrhardyannual]

Ros this year remind me greatly of Mayo in 1996. Good league run that ended with a question mark. A near disaster in London was followed by a struggle in Roscommon before a good win in Connacht final. Ros now have three games played and while not overly impressive they are showing a degree of resolve. If Mayo overcome Galway on Saturday I expect a battle in the final. Expect McStay to have a plan to negate Mayo midfield.

[Syferus]

McFOD will have loved how impossible the semifinal is to decifier. Good luck Rochford, we played like a D4 team in the first half and like Dublin in the second half, all without bothering our arses to play an actual midfielder.

[Rossfan]

There will be some look on their faces when we start John Newton and Tom Ryan in the CF

[Itchy]

McFOD will have loved how impossible the semifinal is to decifier. Good luck Rochford, we played like a D4 team in the first half and like Dublin in the second half, all without bothering our arses to play an actual midfielder.

Played like Dublin, my God you are the most deluded person I've ever come across.

[moysider]

McFOD might have as much trouble deciphering the semifinal as Rochford does!
Maybe Kevin Walsh will have the job of breaking the Rosigma code yet though!

[Rossfan]

McFOD will have loved how impossible the semifinal is to decifier. Good luck Rochford, we played like a D4 team in the first half and like Dublin in the second half, all without bothering our arses to play an actual midfielder.

Played like Dublin, my God you are the most deluded person I've ever come across.

Well we did come within 1 point if them in a competitive game and would have drawn if C Murtagh hadn't skidded with that late free.

[Syferus]

McFOD might have as much trouble deciphering the semifinal as Rochford does!
Maybe Kevin Walsh will have the job of breaking the Rosigma code yet though!

Bit less of the poor mouth would do you good Moy,  never in my lifetime have Mayo and Galway been so far apart. Kevin Walsh should be looking at what he has to do to get a response in R2 of the Qualifiers.

[Ringfort]

Some awful junior B stuff from us yesterday mixed with some great stuff in the 2nd half.Thatt 2nd quarter was a disgrace.
Still trying to come to terms with that turnaround. 4-10 to 0-5 !!!!
Lot of thinking for management - put in some bloody midfielders and where will we get a half back line?
Also our 3 starting full forwards ( Syfín's heroes) need to be benched and let the Smiths and hopefully Diarmuid start.
1-2 from our starting FF line over 3 quarter of the game, 1-3 from the Smiths in the last 15 minutes.
Qe are where we wanted to be but by  Jaysus are we a work in progress.....
Still a lot to do and it will be next Spring before McFod ( a Syfínism) get their right starting 15 on the field.
Meanwhile anything us possible ...from disaster to an AI SF......

either Donie or Senan should play not both. Cregg should be in the half forward line.

Senan was involved in 3/6 of the first half scores. set up a goal chance for cregg. scored the goal and laid off for the 7th point also was the player who won the penalty and still didn't play well!
need to work on the  basic errors we repeatedly  make

And who exactly would give way to facilitate Cregg? The half forward line have been excellent all year. I think Cregg should be tried out in the half backline, other than Murray we are poor here. Would agree that Senan and Donie can't play in the same line. Senan did ok yesterday, bar a couple of good passes and a fine point the game passed Donie by. Sligo were shocking poor in the second half and were lucky not to concede 10 goals over the course of the game.

the time for trying out for this year is over.  a final isnt the place anyway. we lost a yr or two development with JE IMO.

rudi i'd drop fintan.  it's a tough decision and he has played well but I think he is just a little slow to release possession and prone to taking wrong options.

you could easily pick any 4 from Kilbride, smith x2; shine, cregg x2, connolly, harney, devaney and you won't be any worst or better off. murtaghs are a touch above them I think and when fit should always start.

Cathal Cregg played centre back/sweeper in at least one FBD game this year. The one in Croans for definite and did well, though it goes without saying the opposition and pace is on a different planet to this time of year. But shows management are considering this option. I was actually a bit disappointed to see him in the FF line for the league. He has a bit of ball carrying ability I was hoping to see more of in our problem CB position. We have more forwards than we've ever had. And a dearth of half backs. I assume the management have dismissed his redeployment to this area based on evidence in games/training.

Fintan Cregg I would not drop. For me our most important player this year. Looks the leader of the team to my eyes. We have no midfield and this lad does more than anyone to paper over those cracks. Always looking for ball and willing to handle it in dangerous areas, including on Sunday when he wasn't having his best game. There was one point early in the second half where we got a free in our left half back position. We are desperately needing leadership to get back in the game and put scores on the board. No show-ers, free taker thinking of popping back to the full back line as a restart. F Cregg made a burst from the HF line right up through midfield demanding ball from the free taker, in a fairly populated and dangerous area. He gathered the ball and set us motoring. These small acts of leadership are huge, especially in the context of yesterday's game and the time it happened in. We are most definitely brittle mentally. Fintan Cregg is not one of these and is first name on team sheet for me.

[moysider]

McFOD might have as much trouble deciphering the semifinal as Rochford does!
Maybe Kevin Walsh will have the job of breaking the Rosigma code yet though!

Bit less of the poor mouth would do you good Moy,  never in my lifetime have Mayo and Galway been so far apart. Kevin Walsh should be looking at what he has to do to get a response in R2 of the Qualifiers.

Not poor mouthing at all. While I think we should beat Galway, you take nothing for granted in football or any sport for that matter, or you end up biting dust. Like Anthony Finnerty said today '' It's ingrained in me to be wary of Galway''. In the past Mayo teams that appeared to be better than Galway got turned over but the opposite has never happened. I'm coming from that perspective as well.
Outsiders might think that Mayo is AI or bust but you can be sure Rochford doesn't want to fcku up Connacht on his watch, and the Galway game in Castlebar and a potential final there as well. One game at a time.

[Il Bomber Destro]

Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan

I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..

What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?

The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.

All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.

What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper?  Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.

Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.

I agree that he has big questions to answer over our set up and tactically but he is presiding over a difficult time and I don't know whether a new manager will do much better.

We've lost lots of key players from the Walsh/Breheny regime in recent years and the other lads just aren't up to it, yet anyway.

When you look at our defence there is little we can do with it. McDonnell is a midfielder, Flanagan, Devaney and Maye are only in their second season of intercounty football, Harrison and Egan are well in their 30s now and will probably call it a day after this campaign.

If we were able to play some of our better players in their natural positions we would be a good teams but sadly we can't afford to free up McDonnell into midfield, Breheny and Murphy into the forward line and so on. There's a severe lack of good footballers with the required physicality in Sligo right now.

I don't think the equation adds up that Roscommon are much better than us if our manager is clueless and doesn't know what he's at yet he's beaten a Roscommon team last year and gave them a hell of a shock this time round. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle - Roscommon aren't that much better us and Carew isn't completely clueless. He deserves criticism but this a limited group of Sligo player seeing a big turnover of players who have served us well down the years.

Ewing, Harrison, Breheny, Marren and Egan are the only survivors of the 2012 side that narrowly lost to Mayo and 4 of them are into their 30s and will probably call it a day after this season. What's a realistic expectation for us?

We have some good midfielders that just aren't fit right now. Sligo have none, fit or not.

We have a good midfielder playing full back and McIntyre is usually decent but was poor enough today and didn't get round the pitch. Midfield whether you like it or not is a problem position for Ross. Shine is decent but not very mobile, Higgins has never really convinced.

Higgins was PotY in his last season, sadly it was 2014. Confusing Donie with Cathal. Cathal has a great motor for a big lad, as good as either of the O'Sheas in that regard. Together they were a rock solid pairing in 2014 for us. Compton and Corcoran are young lads we'll see more of. Ian Kilbride our starting midfielder from 2015 and the league is out injured too.

Harold and Findon made shit of that "rock solid pairing" in 2014 as you meekly exited the Championship to Armagh.