Next Government for the 26?

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foxcommander

Quote from: Hound on April 12, 2016, 05:58:49 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on April 12, 2016, 03:42:21 PM
Quote from: Hound on April 12, 2016, 09:05:38 AM
Quote from: foxcommander on April 11, 2016, 07:44:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 11, 2016, 07:31:21 PM
FG/FF talking to each other at last.
Sensible Independents waiting for them to agree something.
Sinn Pain, loony left, Labour, SDP, Greens sitting on the ditch ready to throw stones.....

Can't wait for Fine Fail to emerge. It's about time they stopped pretending they have any real difference.
Must be a massive relief to you for the centre parties to get together to keep the liberal lefties out? Can you only imagine the mess those leftie loonies Sinn Fein would make of things if they got into power?

As opposed to the fantastic job Fianna Fail and Fine Gael have done when in power over the last century.

You don't live in the real world I take it.
But I thought anything was better than left wing socialist liberal policies?

Looks like you're too bogged down with ideologies
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

Hound

Quote from: foxcommander on April 12, 2016, 06:15:31 PM
Quote from: Hound on April 12, 2016, 05:58:49 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on April 12, 2016, 03:42:21 PM
Quote from: Hound on April 12, 2016, 09:05:38 AM
Quote from: foxcommander on April 11, 2016, 07:44:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 11, 2016, 07:31:21 PM
FG/FF talking to each other at last.
Sensible Independents waiting for them to agree something.
Sinn Pain, loony left, Labour, SDP, Greens sitting on the ditch ready to throw stones.....

Can't wait for Fine Fail to emerge. It's about time they stopped pretending they have any real difference.
Must be a massive relief to you for the centre parties to get together to keep the liberal lefties out? Can you only imagine the mess those leftie loonies Sinn Fein would make of things if they got into power?

As opposed to the fantastic job Fianna Fail and Fine Gael have done when in power over the last century.

You don't live in the real world I take it.
But I thought anything was better than left wing socialist liberal policies?

Looks like you're too bogged down with ideologies
Just find it interesting that Sinn Fein's right wing extremists, who are largely kept hidden away, can raise their head above the parapet from time to time

Ulick

Quote from: Rossfan on April 12, 2016, 05:02:48 PM
Quote from: Ulick on April 12, 2016, 02:55:22 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 12, 2016, 10:05:42 AM
SF and the Anti Brigade are like the bar stool politicians - have all the answers but afraid of their holes they might ever have to actually  take responsibility for doing anything.
The ultimate hurlers on the ditch but sure €90k per annum will pay for drying their damp trousers.

Both FG and FF said SF "weren't fit for government" and both ruled out doing any deals with them. So what exactly is it that you want SF to be doing?
SF could have said that with the outcome of the Election they would listen to any approach from other parties.
As it us now they are being seen as cowardly fence sitters only interested in themselves.

So while the other Parties were saying SF aren't fit for government etc... you wanted SF to go "hey lads please talk to us, go on please, please, please... we really want to be part of your gang".
Talking through your hoop Rossfan.

armaghniac

SF could make the case that they have something to contribute. They haven't.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Farrandeelin

Quote from: armaghniac on April 13, 2016, 09:45:09 AM
SF could make the case that they have something to contribute. They haven't.

Interesting listening to the silence of Pearse, Mary Lou all right.
Inaugural Football Championship Prediction Winner.

Ulick

Quote from: armaghniac on April 13, 2016, 09:45:09 AM
SF could make the case that they have something to contribute. They haven't.

A government cannot be formed without FF or FG. Both have ruled out having anything to do with SF so what exactly can SF contribute other than what they've already said?


Canalman

Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 13, 2016, 09:51:24 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 13, 2016, 09:45:09 AM
SF could make the case that they have something to contribute. They haven't.

Interesting listening to the silence of Pearse, Mary Lou all right.

In fairness both FF and FG have made it pretty clear they will not deal with SF, made it very very clear.
Hard to blame SF now for this (plenty other things can be thrown at them).

Think another election needed to "clear the air" and allow the major parties to strike an agreement between them

Honestly think FF did better than they thought and never expected to be in this position and have been caught on the hop. Likewise FG and their dismal showing.

Rossfan

Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 13, 2016, 09:51:24 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 13, 2016, 09:45:09 AM
SF could make the case that they have something to contribute. They haven't.

Interesting listening to the silence of Pearse, Mary Lou all right.

It's great peace alright.
SF have nothing to contribute anyway but they could at least have said "we're available to talk ". If the Blue shirts and Builders then said we won't touch ye at least SF would have some of the moral high ground.

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Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

muppet

Quote from: Ulick on April 13, 2016, 10:30:46 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 13, 2016, 09:51:24 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 13, 2016, 09:45:09 AM
SF could make the case that they have something to contribute. They haven't.

Interesting listening to the silence of Pearse, Mary Lou all right.

FF & FG made this particular rod for themselves:

http://www.todayfm.com/Enda-Kenny-claims-SF-not-fit-for-government

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/sinn-feacutein-are-not-fit-for-democratic-government-says-martin-324896.html

They also said that they would never go into government with each other.

How come this is the only policy from FF or FG, that SF accepts without a murmur?
MWWSI 2017

Farrandeelin

Inaugural Football Championship Prediction Winner.

muppet

Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 14, 2016, 04:25:32 PM
Another election anyone?

SF will want one as they will blame FF for not forming a government and hope to get the protest vote that they missed last time.
FF might want one as they think they will overtake FG.
FG might want one if they think they can get a bounce from a new leader.
Independents shouldn't want one, but then I don't see much cop-on there either.

So probably.
MWWSI 2017

Owenmoresider

Quote from: muppet on April 14, 2016, 04:32:53 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 14, 2016, 04:25:32 PM
Another election anyone?

SF will want one as they will blame FF for not forming a government and hope to get the protest vote that they missed last time.
FF might want one as they think they will overtake FG.
FG might want one if they think they can get a bounce from a new leader.
Independents shouldn't want one, but then I don't see much cop-on there either.

So probably.
They made a valued contribution to the process of government formation it must be said. At least FF tried.

AZOffaly

In fairness, Sinn Fein were told in no uncertain terms they weren't wanted.  What would you have them do?

I'd be amazed if FF are happy to go to the country again. In fact I'd be amazed if anyone really wants to go again. Who would significantly change their tallies? Maybe the populace would be worried about the hmming and hawwing, and go towards FG for stability, but I doubt it. I'd say there'd only be a 3 or 4 seat swing max between FF and FG.

Ulick

Quote from: muppet on April 14, 2016, 04:32:53 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 14, 2016, 04:25:32 PM
Another election anyone?

SF will want one as they will blame FF for not forming a government and hope to get the protest vote that they missed last time.
FF might want one as they think they will overtake FG.
FG might want one if they think they can get a bounce from a new leader.
Independents shouldn't want one, but then I don't see much cop-on there either.

So probably.

FF spent north of €3 million and FG probably a lot more. SF depend a lot more on unpaid supporters rapping doors and dropping leaflets. FF & FG are bluffing about going for another election.