Armagh v Fermanagh

[Il Bomber Destro]

Are Morgan and Kernan the only Cross players to have joined the panel?

[Throw ball]

Are Morgan and Kernan the only Cross players to have joined the panel?

For now anyway. A couple are with under 21s and could join later.

[smelmoth]

Think the fans are being hard on McGeeney.
He is working with a limited panel imo that is not a patch on the Armagh team of 10 years ago.

The panel is limited but in judging McGeeney nobody is comparing results/performances with those of 10-15 years ago. By the same token the fact that the players are not as good as that era is no defence to current performances.

You talk about your midfielder but imo if he went to compete for clean ball with Fermanaghs Eoin Donnelly he wouldn't have  a chance.  He's one of the best in ulster

I agree re Donnelly but the issue with Findon predates the latest game

Armagh were patient at times and it worked especially in the first 20 minutes.
When they kicked aimless ball they were turned over with ease.
If you have watched the game back the majority of Armagh scores came when they were patient, kept the ball and worked it around until they got an opening. 
The winner came from that

By all means be patient when you have possession in the scoring area but can't get a quality shot away,
But patience is less of a virtue if you are fannying around in your defensive half while fermanagh are filtering even more men back

[smelmoth]

Having said that he is doing his best and should not have to take some of the stick being handed out.

What stick is being handed out and why is it unfair?

[smelmoth]

. Findon is a big lad and has the ability to win primary ball in midfield. But the only clean catch he won in the entire game was a hop ball and he threw that down resulting in a free against (maybe he thinks he is Devon Toner). The reason for this this is that he continues to try to break ball instead of trying to win it clean.

Findon has never, ever been regarded as someone who can win his own primary ball. Maybe because he's a big lad you have thought that, but at no stage has he ever been regarded as someone who is well equipped to do it.

Right on break ball though, we have been getting hammered on that front for years now.

Roll the clock back 20 months and he was winning his fair share of ball

[T Fearon]

The question is how we have declined so rapidly since an All Ireland Quarter Final appearance a mere 18 months ago? Too many players retired too soon,could they not have been persuaded to stay on.

[BennyCake]

The question is how we have declined so rapidly since an All Ireland Quarter Final appearance a mere 18 months ago? Too many players retired too soon,could they not have been persuaded to stay on.

We played nobody of note in 2014. People expected too much since. Mid table/struggling in div 2 is our level now. That's the reality.

[onefaircounty]

Eh?? That is some ridiculous statement to make. He didn't become an IC Midfielder at 19/20 yrs of age because he was a good spoiler, he's more than capable of winning his own ball.

He has never been regarded as a top fielder, and that is because he has never been a top fielder.

His best season came in 2014 when he dove-tailed with someone who was a good fielder, Stephen Harold.

Findon has great qualities. He can win secondary ball, his strong as an ox, speedy, direct, and can chip in with scores.

Fielding isn't, nor has it ever, been viewed as one of his strong points.

[DuffleKing]

Armagh were far the better team in the opening twenty minutes when there was parity of possession around the middle but Fermanagh (Donnelly fetching and the rest with breaks) took over from there and Armagh struggled to maintain the attacking threat. Seems a pretty simple equation - they have to win more ball. Not sure how easy that's going to be at the weekend with Cavan's big men.

[Applesisapples]

Having said that he is doing his best and should not have to take some of the stick being handed out.

What stick is being handed out and why is it unfair?

Plenty on his ability, their style of play etc...

[bennydorano]

Eh?? That is some ridiculous statement to make. He didn't become an IC Midfielder at 19/20 yrs of age because he was a good spoiler, he's more than capable of winning his own ball.

He has never been regarded as a top fielder, and that is because he has never been a top fielder.

His best season came in 2014 when he dove-tailed with someone who was a good fielder, Stephen Harold.

Findon has great qualities. He can win secondary ball, his strong as an ox, speedy, direct, and can chip in with scores.

Fielding isn't, nor has it ever, been viewed as one of his strong points.

Nonsense. You're trying to palm off personal opinion as fact - unless you can produce some actual stats or evidence to back up your claims?

[smelmoth]

Having said that he is doing his best and should not have to take some of the stick being handed out.

What stick is being handed out and why is it unfair?

Plenty on his ability, their style of play etc...

elaborate - is his ability beyond question and the style of play beyond reproach?

Or is it just a case that fans should not express their dissatisfaction?

[T Fearon]

Benny in the 2014 Championship we drew with Monaghan,beat Cavan,Meath,Tyrone,Roscommon and ran Donegal to a point.

[BennyCake]

Benny in the 2014 Championship we drew with Monaghan,beat Cavan,Meath,Tyrone,Roscommon and ran Donegal to a point.

We lost Monaghan replay heavily. Performed well against a team who had one eye on Dublin. Other 4 teams were no big shakes.

A handy qualifier route can mask a lot of weaknesses.

[FermGael]

Armagh and Fermanagh have been hit with €5,000 fines following last weekend's National League meeting which saw a bust-up in the tunnel at half-time.

The Belfast Telegraph reports that both counties are considering their option after being handed down the fines by the Central Competitions Control Committee.

The punishments will also see Fermanagh without star forward Sean Quigley for Sunday's league clash with Laois in Enniskillen after the Roslea man was given a one-game suspension for an offence which occurred during play