Is Cillian O'Connor Mayo's greatest ever?

[Hardy]

Well said, Benny.

[Il Bomber Destro]

Great free taker.

Average from general player, that's about the height of it really.

He has an exalted reputation in the game, probably get another All Star for this year despite being poor.

[Syferus]

BennyCake must be feeling a little silly dredging this one up.

[Zulu]

To be fair COC isn't doing enough from play to be ranked amongst the best forwards but he was phenomenal from dead balls today and Mayo needed that. His penalty was outstanding.

[muppet]

To be fair COC isn't doing enough from play to be ranked amongst the best forwards but he was phenomenal from dead balls today and Mayo needed that. His penalty was outstanding.

So was his only point from play. But your point is valid, we need more from him.

The positioning of Aidan seems to have upset his role in the team and he can't seem to get his usual 3/4 points from play.

[easytiger95]

I'd have him on my team anytime - dead eyed today from the placed ball and when nothing is going right up front (which for 55 mins was the case for Mayo) having someone that calm and reliable over frees is invaluable. If Dublin's freetakers had been on form we'd be in a final.

Cannot get over the amount of slagging of players and posters happening all across the board - most of it based on the premise that if Tyrone got slagged then Dublin/Mayo must be slagged as well. Seriously wondering why i even bother logging in.

Great credit due to Mayo for the comeback, but a lot of things went wrong for Dublin today - discipline was bad, losing ROC so early was a huge blow, and to be honest, I've no excuses to make for Connolly anymore - his temperament willl never change and will always be exploited by other teams.

All that said, I think Dublin have the bigger capacity to improve, whilst Mayo played to the limit of their abilities, certainly upfront. they are short class forwards, whilst we are not, so if we even get a 10% improvement out the field we should be able to win the replay.

BTW posting this here as I don't want to get in the maelstorm of shitetalk happening on the match thread. Well done to Mayo, incredible comeback, seconds out for next week.

[muppet]

I'd have him on my team anytime - dead eyed today from the placed ball and when nothing is going right up front (which for 55 mins was the case for Mayo) having someone that calm and reliable over frees is invaluable. If Dublin's freetakers had been on form we'd be in a final.

Cannot get over the amount of slagging of players and posters happening all across the board - most of it based on the premise that if Tyrone got slagged then Dublin/Mayo must be slagged as well. Seriously wondering why i even bother logging in.

Great credit due to Mayo for the comeback, but a lot of things went wrong for Dublin today - discipline was bad, losing ROC so early was a huge blow, and to be honest, I've no excuses to make for Connolly anymore - his temperament willl never change and will always be exploited by other teams.

All that said, I think Dublin have the bigger capacity to improve, whilst Mayo played to the limit of their abilities, certainly upfront. they are short class forwards, whilst we are not, so if we even get a 10% improvement out the field we should be able to win the replay.

BTW posting this here as I don't want to get in the maelstorm of shitetalk happening on the match thread. Well done to Mayo, incredible comeback, seconds out for next week.

Good post. I was looking forward to a proper discussion here but got sucked into the fantasies of a couple of fools above.

I would disagree on the capacity to improve though. That was our worst performance in years. Surely we can play for more than 7 minutes the next day? Our unheralded subs did pretty well as well, especially Patrick Durkan.

[Il Bomber Destro]

I'd have him on my team anytime - dead eyed today from the placed ball and when nothing is going right up front (which for 55 mins was the case for Mayo) having someone that calm and reliable over frees is invaluable. If Dublin's freetakers had been on form we'd be in a final.

Cannot get over the amount of slagging of players and posters happening all across the board - most of it based on the premise that if Tyrone got slagged then Dublin/Mayo must be slagged as well. Seriously wondering why i even bother logging in.

Great credit due to Mayo for the comeback, but a lot of things went wrong for Dublin today - discipline was bad, losing ROC so early was a huge blow, and to be honest, I've no excuses to make for Connolly anymore - his temperament willl never change and will always be exploited by other teams.

All that said, I think Dublin have the bigger capacity to improve, whilst Mayo played to the limit of their abilities, certainly upfront. they are short class forwards, whilst we are not, so if we even get a 10% improvement out the field we should be able to win the replay.

BTW posting this here as I don't want to get in the maelstorm of shitetalk happening on the match thread. Well done to Mayo, incredible comeback, seconds out for next week.

Good post. I was looking forward to a proper discussion here but got sucked into the fantasies of a couple of fools above.

I would disagree on the capacity to improve though. That was our worst performance in years. Surely we can play for more than 7 minutes the next day? Our unheralded subs did pretty well as well, especially Patrick Durkan.

He's not helped by the hyperbole some people attach to him, if he's one of the best forwards in the game then you'd be expecting him to be putting in big performances fitting of one. I know he is young but too often he has been really poor from open play. Great free taker though but I wouldn't have him in the top 10 forwards around.

[BennyHarp]

I'd have him on my team anytime - dead eyed today from the placed ball and when nothing is going right up front (which for 55 mins was the case for Mayo) having someone that calm and reliable over frees is invaluable. If Dublin's freetakers had been on form we'd be in a final.

Cannot get over the amount of slagging of players and posters happening all across the board - most of it based on the premise that if Tyrone got slagged then Dublin/Mayo must be slagged as well. Seriously wondering why i even bother logging in.

Great credit due to Mayo for the comeback, but a lot of things went wrong for Dublin today - discipline was bad, losing ROC so early was a huge blow, and to be honest, I've no excuses to make for Connolly anymore - his temperament willl never change and will always be exploited by other teams.

All that said, I think Dublin have the bigger capacity to improve, whilst Mayo played to the limit of their abilities, certainly upfront. they are short class forwards, whilst we are not, so if we even get a 10% improvement out the field we should be able to win the replay.

BTW posting this here as I don't want to get in the maelstorm of shitetalk happening on the match thread. Well done to Mayo, incredible comeback, seconds out for next week.

Good post. I was looking forward to a proper discussion here but got sucked into the fantasies of a couple of fools above.

I would disagree on the capacity to improve though. That was our worst performance in years. Surely we can play for more than 7 minutes the next day? Our unheralded subs did pretty well as well, especially Patrick Durkan.

He's not helped by the hyperbole some people attach to him, if he's one of the best forwards in the game then you'd be expecting him to be putting in big performances fitting of one. I know he is young but too often he has been really poor from open play. Great free taker though but I wouldn't have him in the top 10 forwards around.

On the basis of today and your analysis, we wouldn't have Bernard Brogan, Diarmuid Connelly, Paul Flynn or Aiden O'Se as being in the top 10 either. Come to think of it, Gooch and O'Donoghue where quiet enough last week too, as was Cavannagh. So, does this mean none of the country's top 10 forwards are in the top 4 teams? O'Connor kicked 1-9 today, pressure was on and he responded, had he been in a Tyrone jersey last week, we might just be sitting in an AI final.

[easytiger95]

I'd have him on my team anytime - dead eyed today from the placed ball and when nothing is going right up front (which for 55 mins was the case for Mayo) having someone that calm and reliable over frees is invaluable. If Dublin's freetakers had been on form we'd be in a final.

Cannot get over the amount of slagging of players and posters happening all across the board - most of it based on the premise that if Tyrone got slagged then Dublin/Mayo must be slagged as well. Seriously wondering why i even bother logging in.

Great credit due to Mayo for the comeback, but a lot of things went wrong for Dublin today - discipline was bad, losing ROC so early was a huge blow, and to be honest, I've no excuses to make for Connolly anymore - his temperament willl never change and will always be exploited by other teams.

All that said, I think Dublin have the bigger capacity to improve, whilst Mayo played to the limit of their abilities, certainly upfront. they are short class forwards, whilst we are not, so if we even get a 10% improvement out the field we should be able to win the replay.

BTW posting this here as I don't want to get in the maelstorm of shitetalk happening on the match thread. Well done to Mayo, incredible comeback, seconds out for next week.

Good post. I was looking forward to a proper discussion here but got sucked into the fantasies of a couple of fools above.

I would disagree on the capacity to improve though. That was our worst performance in years. Surely we can play for more than 7 minutes the next day? Our unheralded subs did pretty well as well, especially Patrick Durkan.

It's interesting what people see when looking at the same game - I would have thought that one of Dublin's worst performances in years, especially around the middle third. We had a lot of difficulty in transferring quick ball to our forwards - credit to them that when they did get quick ball, they managed to capitalise, but there was no part of the game that we were dominant. Also both teams made some incredible erros - some of Mayo's passing was atrocious, whilst the amount of times Dublin won clean ball but then gave it straight back by either dawdling on it or giving poor handpasses. Maybe both teams will be freed up for the replay, because I think both gave the impression that they didn't want to lose rather than winning - I'm thinking about Dublin taking their foot off the accelerator after they stretched their lead (something i thought we had eradicated in the Gilroy/Gavin years) whilst Mayo refused to gamble until nearly too late on Cluxton's kickouts.

[easytiger95]

BTW i think taking Paddy Andrews off was a big mistake - given how out of control Connolly seemed to be, he would have been the one I would have hooked off, Paddy was playing really well.

[INDIANA]

I'd have him on my team anytime - dead eyed today from the placed ball and when nothing is going right up front (which for 55 mins was the case for Mayo) having someone that calm and reliable over frees is invaluable. If Dublin's freetakers had been on form we'd be in a final.

Cannot get over the amount of slagging of players and posters happening all across the board - most of it based on the premise that if Tyrone got slagged then Dublin/Mayo must be slagged as well. Seriously wondering why i even bother logging in.

Great credit due to Mayo for the comeback, but a lot of things went wrong for Dublin today - discipline was bad, losing ROC so early was a huge blow, and to be honest, I've no excuses to make for Connolly anymore - his temperament willl never change and will always be exploited by other teams.

All that said, I think Dublin have the bigger capacity to improve, whilst Mayo played to the limit of their abilities, certainly upfront. they are short class forwards, whilst we are not, so if we even get a 10% improvement out the field we should be able to win the replay.

BTW posting this here as I don't want to get in the maelstorm of shitetalk happening on the match thread. Well done to Mayo, incredible comeback, seconds out for next week.

Good post. I was looking forward to a proper discussion here but got sucked into the fantasies of a couple of fools above.

I would disagree on the capacity to improve though. That was our worst performance in years. Surely we can play for more than 7 minutes the next day? Our unheralded subs did pretty well as well, especially Patrick Durkan.

He's not helped by the hyperbole some people attach to him, if he's one of the best forwards in the game then you'd be expecting him to be putting in big performances fitting of one. I know he is young but too often he has been really poor from open play. Great free taker though but I wouldn't have him in the top 10 forwards around.

He's a good player but nothing more then that. his kicking technique off his left foot is awful for an inter county forward. Free taking is very good

[Kuwabatake Sanjuro]

There is nothing flashy about him and his form in general is below par in comparison to recent seasons. When on form he is one of the most effective forwards in the country, he is usually very accurate, an excellent ball winner, one of the best tacklers in the country and he possesses great leadership skills too. There is no team in the country where he would not be a key player.

[INDIANA]

There is nothing flashy about him and his form in general is below par in comparison to recent seasons. When on form he is one of the most effective forwards in the country, he is usually very accurate, an excellent ball winner, one of the best tacklers in the country and he possesses great leadership skills too. There is no team in the country where he would not be a key player.

His freetaking would get him on the Dublin team. But the rest wouldn't

[Il Bomber Destro]

I'd have him on my team anytime - dead eyed today from the placed ball and when nothing is going right up front (which for 55 mins was the case for Mayo) having someone that calm and reliable over frees is invaluable. If Dublin's freetakers had been on form we'd be in a final.

Cannot get over the amount of slagging of players and posters happening all across the board - most of it based on the premise that if Tyrone got slagged then Dublin/Mayo must be slagged as well. Seriously wondering why i even bother logging in.

Great credit due to Mayo for the comeback, but a lot of things went wrong for Dublin today - discipline was bad, losing ROC so early was a huge blow, and to be honest, I've no excuses to make for Connolly anymore - his temperament willl never change and will always be exploited by other teams.

All that said, I think Dublin have the bigger capacity to improve, whilst Mayo played to the limit of their abilities, certainly upfront. they are short class forwards, whilst we are not, so if we even get a 10% improvement out the field we should be able to win the replay.

BTW posting this here as I don't want to get in the maelstorm of shitetalk happening on the match thread. Well done to Mayo, incredible comeback, seconds out for next week.

Good post. I was looking forward to a proper discussion here but got sucked into the fantasies of a couple of fools above.

I would disagree on the capacity to improve though. That was our worst performance in years. Surely we can play for more than 7 minutes the next day? Our unheralded subs did pretty well as well, especially Patrick Durkan.

He's not helped by the hyperbole some people attach to him, if he's one of the best forwards in the game then you'd be expecting him to be putting in big performances fitting of one. I know he is young but too often he has been really poor from open play. Great free taker though but I wouldn't have him in the top 10 forwards around.

On the basis of today and your analysis, we wouldn't have Bernard Brogan, Diarmuid Connelly, Paul Flynn or Aiden O'Se as being in the top 10 either. Come to think of it, Gooch and O'Donoghue where quiet enough last week too, as was Cavannagh. So, does this mean none of the country's top 10 forwards are in the top 4 teams? O'Connor kicked 1-9 today, pressure was on and he responded, had he been in a Tyrone jersey last week, we might just be sitting in an AI final.

He had three very good chances from play and fucked them all up, one where he opened his body up for Fitzsimmons to rob him, another little tiddler with his left foot from 15 yards out that went straight into Cluxton and a final one in the second half where he blazed it wide when straight in front of the goals. He consistently struggled to win any sort of ball. One of the best free takers in the game, very average from open player however, particularly when you consider he plays for one of the top 3 teams in the country. He never comes in for the treatment some of the top forwards in the game do because opposition managers don't fear him from play.